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Thread started 04/05/12 6:49am

SpiritOtter

Inspire His GENIUS

Residents of the .Org (old and new),

I would like you to create with me a literary landscape here which fuels His GENIUS. It is clear to all those with more than a passing interest in Prince that his creative well has been dry for some time. However, we also know that, as with any inspirational work, it takes more than just one influence – emotional , physical, and spiritual – to inspire His GENIUS. Therefore, I would like to see if you, alongside me, as well as a few other good spirits, can help Prince muster that enigmatic, lone wolf in the wilderness, to deliver INDEPDENTLY a truly epic, eccentric and original Prince record.

It is true to say that we know he is simply neither in the career trajectory himself (1980-1988) or around the types of musical influences, which will stimulate such artistic growth, from a naive, honest place. So, residents of the .Org tell me here what you want to hear from Prince; tell him using both positive and negative critiques about what specifically works for you in a GENIUS Prince record. I shall provide you now with a few examples, to stimulate your thinking, the forces that will be viewing this thread of thought (and, believe me, they are here), as well as the GENIUS himself. Lest you think otherwise, Prince does take note and, I am glad to report, he is in fact still creating. However, like the critical and commercial mass all know, Prince's work rate, productivity and inspirational work of a GENIUS quality, requires new, vibrant, and cutting-edge stimulus. It is my contention that the residents of the .Org can and do play an instrumental role as one of the few, if not the only, places where Prince does receive feedback from a group that matters most: His audience.

My perspectives, which I completely understand, are only mine, and therefore, I would like YOU to chime in with yours, if you still believe in His GENIUS:

1. Create a GENIUS concept album, Prince; to reference a few examples from your past, 1999, Purple Rain, Crystal Ball (the original incarnation), and The Rainbow Children are specific products of creative concepts delivered as fully fledged Prince albums of GENIUS quality.

2. For God's sake, be serious with your musicianship, not just live, but on wax. We all know that you are a brilliant musician. And we all know that you are in the mid-stage of your elder statesmen years; however, it is simply not only NOT good enough that your are failing to bring your serious musicianship, spiritual maturity, and humour, to your records, it is a serious indictment on your legacy, that you are not raising your game on wax now to phenomenal heights. With all due respect, Prince, have fun live, play your hits seriously, make your money with sponsorship deals, steward newcomers into the musical industry; however, do NOT contnue to do this at the expense of your own career legacy, which is lamentably being left to mire in the dust, with NO re-mastered, extended and GENIUS reissues of your past work (specifically, 1980-1988), but equally as importantly for those spirits who still believe in your GENIUS (including, dare I say it, GOD), your musical competence, growth and execution on wax is horribly turning to dust, as you fail to translate your musicianship, originality, humour, and creative capacity, into a discernible GENIUS work of musical art. LotusFlower doesn't quite cut it, but I know you are trying. Try harder now, Prince; it's time to seriously raise your game.

3. Bring your humour and your dark side to the fore, Prince. It is absolutely understood that, as we each mature, we either regret past actions or behaviours; however, this particular point relates to your musical legacy. You are not being yourself, truly, if you do not bring your cutting edge, deviant, dark humour (an essential ingredient of you past GENIUS works of art) back out into the fore, both in the background via Camille-esque voices or in the foreground, such as The Rainbow Children (even if you, and we, know its contents are simply too heavy for any human to hold, forever). As but one example, P Funk was close. Mock your true audience, we will take it, if you bring your A-game. In fact, we will enjoy it. If it helps, make fun of me. My name is Spirit Otter, for God's sake!

4. Finally, create a 3-disc set that you, and we, know you can make; Crystal Ball never happened, as it should have; neither The Gold Experience, as it should have happened, and neither Emancipation, due to the weight of your own pressures, as well as the lack of your musical influences at the time. However, you, and we, all know that there are understandable reasons why, in each of these specific examples, that even when you felt that you were ‘free’, you clearly were not. "Freedom" is useful, but as you fully know, too much freedom causes decay. I, alongside other resident members of the .Org, are bringing you closer to the fact that, outside of our influences, as well as a few other good spirits around you, still, NO-ONE is forcing you to raise your game on wax. Do it. And do it good. You’ve now had a break from creating GENIUS works of art for long enough; get your backside into the studio, re-connect with Lisa (in particular) and Wendy, as well as Bobby Z. (it is time), Sheila E., Michael B., and Jonny B, not to mention, Sonny T. and Rhonda B., as well as Candy D, but in particular, Eric L. is a MUST and do the work that GOD has set before you. It’s well known that music is both your gift and curse in life. It’s time to solidify the gift, and to give your all to it, not just for you, them (your past GENIUS musicians), and us (who have critiqued and loved you, through all your ups and down; Newpower Soul, anyone?); but, in particular, for GOD (Matthew 5:14). You’ve promised to deliver to Him when you became free. Well, with all due respect, it’s time for you to complete the work that He has set for you.

5. The question is, not whether you are able to, but whether you will? He still cares about you, as do we. Do the work; get back in the STUDIO and have Him, them, us, and you, INSPIRE GENIUS. It is a Gift of GOD, your gift. Use it and deliver His word.

6. Halleluiah, I hear some of you at the .Org say; well, what else do you have to say; not to me, mind you, but to Prince. What can you, residents of the .Org, say that can inspire His GENIUS? Even with both your negative or positive critiques, please, keep it respectful, including you rdhull (namecheck).

7. Because it is a scriptural number, it has been written. We are still here; where on God’s Earth are you, Prince?

In CONclusion: 3 discs of original creative GENIUS quality Prince work. Reconnect with the musicians we know bring it out of you, reconnect with that dark part of you we all know still resides and raises your creative side, and for God's sake, bring your music, to a serious level, on WAX.

I need a GENIUS Prince record, as do we all, including you.

Most of all, do NOT disappoint Him.

Release GENIUS in Autumn.

Now, get to work.

Thanks, P.

love,

Spirit

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Reply #1 posted 04/05/12 7:04am

SpiritOtter

Oh, and by the way, if you need help with raising your game on wax, that is understandable, too. Just call/email me. It is the area I specialise in, specifically with GENIUS individuals, like yourself.

But, naturally, there is a fee. However, for you, Prince, it may be 'free', for a trial period, before we seriously excecute this level of GENIUS work*

Just call/email me.

love,

Spirit

*Contracts, nonetheless, are required, as are the GENIUS team of professionals I work with.

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Reply #2 posted 04/05/12 8:39am

comegetwild

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If this is satire, then U need more humour but if it's 4 real, then U need help. wink

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Reply #3 posted 04/05/12 10:23am

SpiritOtter

comegetwild,

Tis true; I need more humour and help, so thank you for the feedback.

Do you have anything you wish to say to Prince?

love,

Spirit

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Reply #4 posted 04/05/12 11:03am

comegetwild

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SpiritOtter said:

comegetwild,

Tis true; I need more humour and help, so thank you for the feedback.

Do you have anything you wish to say to Prince?

love,

Spirit

Yes I'd like 2 ask Prince a couple of questions if I may...

Why is it, do U think Prince... That people still insist that they can comunicate with an invisible Deity through the power of telepathy, even though there is absolutely no evidence 2 support that fact whatsoever? And... Why is it that people still insist that they can communicate with U (Prince) through an internet forum, when the evidence 4 it is the exactly same?

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Reply #5 posted 04/05/12 11:10am

SpiritOtter

comegetwild,

I don't believe any one human requires you to love GOD, love Life, or lovesexy.

But, for those of us who do, one might argue that it really is your loss.

Of course, no doubt you might argue such faith is our loss, too.

But, I know which side I'd like to be on, when the day comes.

love,

Spirit

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Reply #6 posted 04/05/12 11:17am

comegetwild

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smile

[Edited 4/5/12 11:18am]

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Reply #7 posted 04/05/12 11:19am

SpiritOtter

comegetwild,

That's interesting; is there anything you want to say to GOD?

love,

Spirit

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Reply #8 posted 04/05/12 11:38am

comegetwild

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SpiritOtter said:

comegetwild,

That's interesting; is there anything you want to say to GOD?

love,

Spirit

No thank U, I'll leave the "Talking 2 myself" 2 those who need it. smile

"2 hands working will achieve more than a thousand clasped in prayer.".

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Reply #9 posted 04/05/12 11:43am

SpiritOtter

comegetwild,

Thank you for being respectful; I appreciate it. And thank you for your contribution here.

Even if you don't believe Prince is reading this (even though he is, by the way), I find it hard to believe that you really have no opinions regarding a new Prince record or, rather, specific critiques regarding what could inspire His GENIUS?

love,

Spirit

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Reply #10 posted 04/05/12 11:52am

comegetwild

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SpiritOtter said:

comegetwild,

Thank you for being respectful; I appreciate it. And thank you for your contribution here.

Even if you don't believe Prince is reading this (even though he is, by the way), I find it hard to believe that you really have no opinions regarding a new Prince record or, rather, specific critiques regarding what could inspire His GENIUS?

love,

Spirit

Yes I have opinions like... Hmmm I don't know maybe... Getting his head out of the Bible and back in2 the game.

Has it occured 2 U though that maybe Prince has given all the genius he had 2 give, maybe that's it 4 him. We can't complain about that because he's he's given us much more than most. Prince always has the ability 2 surprise us and who knows, he may have a little of that left but if he doesn't, don't panic, it's not the end of the world. smile

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Reply #11 posted 04/05/12 12:04pm

SpiritOtter

comegetwild,

I think that's a useful and understandable opinion regarding his music; however, I don't quite follow.

On one hand, you suggest that, perhaps, Prince has likely exhausted his GENIUS value, but then on the other, you suggest, he should leave his scriptural growth to "get back in the game". Exactly what game are you talking about, if, as you allude to, there is likely nothing left in the tank?

I find it interesting, though, that there are people who know his music and yet still hold firm to an issue with his exploring GOD. I would like to remind you that Prince has always written his music, from a scriptural, spiritual and GOD perspective e.g. D.M.S.R. ("I'm in love with GOD, it's the only...) , I Would Die 4 U ("I am your conscience, I am love"). Back then, it would seem, GOD inspired him. So, I don't quite follow that GOD needs to be exorcised, for His GENIUS to return; in fact, quite the reverse.

love,

Spirit

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Reply #12 posted 04/05/12 12:11pm

thedance

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post 1 is too long..

I don't have time and patience, so I am not gonna read it,

in fewer words, what is it about??

Prince 4Ever. heart
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Reply #13 posted 04/05/12 12:12pm

TrevorAyer

there is no exhaust of genius .. perhaps allowing the genius muscle to atrophe is more the reality

here is my tip for prince

if its not a classic than u better trash it

having trouble?

play clubs with only the new material, as ingonito as possible

hell prince could show up in jeans and a t - shirt .. lose the make up .. that would throw everyone off

if people don't pay attention, you are probably playing bad music ..

tour the classic album under a different name .. work out the kinks .. watch how the crowd responds .. jam on the songs ..

then record them

ps .. fire renato

pps .. fire shelby

that should get prince started

ppps .. i will produce prince not u spirit otter .. i will do it for free .. and if prince listens, his album will slay all current music no problem .. its very simple .. he comes up with good music .. he just needs someone to tell him when his lyrics suck and when he needs to blow out some real guitar playing instead of that safe timid crap everybody thinks is so great on lotus .. ugh ...

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Reply #14 posted 04/05/12 12:13pm

SpiritOtter

thedance,

It's a useful question.

In summary: given that Prince is reading this, how would you critically evaluate his recent studio output and what can you tell him directly in order to ensure you inspire His GENIUS?

love,

Spirit

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Reply #15 posted 04/05/12 12:16pm

SpiritOtter

TrevorAyer,

I dig your style. But you will not produce Prince; you aren't good enough. Your critique, however, was useful, especially regarding working out the kinks by going underground, like he used to back in the day when he was less well-known.

Thank you.

love,

Spirit

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Reply #16 posted 04/05/12 12:20pm

comegetwild

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SpiritOtter said:

comegetwild,

I think that's a useful and understandable opinion regarding his music; however, I don't quite follow.

On one hand, you suggest that, perhaps, Prince has likely exhausted his GENIUS value, but then on the other, you suggest, he should leave his scriptural growth to "get back in the game". Exactly what game are you talking about, if, as you allude to, there is likely nothing left in the tank?

I find it interesting, though, that there are people who know his music and yet still hold firm to an issue with his exploring GOD. I would like to remind you that Prince has always written his music, from a scriptural, spiritual and GOD perspective e.g. D.M.S.R. ("I'm in love with GOD, it's the only...) , I Would Die 4 U ("I am your conscience, I am love"). Back then, it would seem, GOD inspired him. So, I don't quite follow that GOD needs to be exorcised, for His GENIUS to return; in fact, quite the reverse.

love,

Spirit

Firstly I was offering 2 seperate suggestions but as U raise the point, I could say that, if Prince does have anything "Left in the tank." so 2 speak, he's not gonna find it while he's on a quest 2 fill a hole in his life that can never and will never be filled. smile

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Reply #17 posted 04/05/12 12:21pm

SpiritOtter

comegetwild,

You make a reliable, if not valid, point.

love,

Spirit

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Reply #18 posted 04/05/12 7:09pm

TrevorAyer

SpiritOtter said:

TrevorAyer,

I dig your style. But you will not produce Prince; you aren't good enough. Your critique, however, was useful, especially regarding working out the kinks by going underground, like he used to back in the day when he was less well-known.

Thank you.

love,

Spirit

I'd be happy to prove you wrong .. I am very good at that too. biggrin

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Reply #19 posted 04/06/12 12:21am

SpiritOtter

TrevorAyer,

Like I said, I dig your style. But, unlike many others, I don't believe Prince needs a producer. His signature sound and trademark are established territory. However, I do believe he may benefit from being inspired by travelling (not touring) around the world, especially to Africa, India and the East, to let his spiritual depths and creative geniues evolve.

love,

Spirit

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Reply #20 posted 04/06/12 6:29am

TrevorAyer

I disagree .. his signature sound has disappeared .. lost in all that equipment he bought that has its own signature sound .. he used to create the sound now he uses stock sounds .. a producer could remind him to run some drum machines thru some guitar effect pedals .. or hand him a real acoustic guitar .. or work on finding some natural tones .. or help him to resist rapping .. unfortunately prince had proven that he can no longer produce himself .. so many great song ideas that he has put out have been ruined by letting prince do stupid like ahem AUTO TUNE my gawd .. if ever prince needed a producer its now .. someone to pull him away from the cheap technology and get to the real sound of prince again .. oh and would it hurt to put a little delay on his voice every once in a while ..

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Reply #21 posted 04/06/12 7:18am

SpiritOtter

Trevor!

Finally, someone is contributing to this thread of thought; thank you. And, actually, I agree to a certain extent, about refinding his signature strengths and not getting 'lost' in the myriad of technologies, hip new-trends and false stars, which detract from his own muse, serious musianship and, dare I say it, what once made and still makes Prince unique. He needs to just re-learn how to be himself, if that is possible. In other words, like I think you are alluding to, he needs to literally strip down, musically, and funk it up again, without overloading anything. It is why I suggested Lisa might help, or Wendy, or Eric, as these individuals whilst being warm natured creatures, also bring their own wisdom and colours to the palette, without detracting from Prince's, and can also tell him, in a way he respects, "NO". I am digging your style, Mr Ayers.

love,

Spirit

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Reply #22 posted 04/06/12 1:05pm

Mutiny

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Hey Anj(i)

Love your posts...

In my opinion, what Prince achieved during the eighties is unique, simply unrepeatable. It is sheer obviousness. What was it that drove him at the time: fear, anguish, insanity, spiritual quest? Whatever it was, at some point somewhere around Lovesexy, it vanished. Did he find what he was looking for, did he find peace of mind? Did he simply age, change, or "settle", like we all do?

I can only thank him for his choice to share his overwhelming emotions through his music back then. That was something of a terrific ride, for sure.

From 1989 on, his output has been dispendable. Game over. Not a single song ever came close to the level of creativity, urgency, and inventiveness of his previous work. Not a single one. And please don't mention Gold, Rainbow, Lotusflower... "Enjoyable" music at the most...

Prince is now almost 54... He doesn't need our suggestions or requests... There are no lost sparks to find. That's incredibily naïve and ingenuous of you, actually.

Peace,

Mutiny

I can't remember my baby's voice cuz she ain't talkin' no more pray
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