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Thread started 03/22/12 11:25am

maafit

HARVARD AND PRINCE ??

Prince as ‘knowing big brother’

Critic Touré explains appeal of musician to Generation X

By Edward Mason

Harvard Correspondent

Wednesday, March 21, 2012

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Stephanie Mitchell/Harvard Staff Photographer

The musician Prince’s painful past as a child of divorce is the key to understanding what makes him tick — and what makes him an icon to Generation X, according to Touré (right), the cultural critic and author. Touré was introduced by Henry Louis Gates Jr. (left), the director of the W.E.B. Du Bois Institute for African and African American Research.

The multitalented musician Prince’s painful past as a child of divorce is the key to understanding what makes him tick — and what makes him an icon to Generation X, according to Touré, the cultural critic and author.

“Divorce is the ‘Rosebud’ of Gen X,” said Touré, referring to the touchstone of the film “Citizen Kane,” “and it’s the ‘Rosebud’ of Prince.”

Born in 1958, Prince is a baby boomer. But Touré, speaking Tuesday on the subject “I Would Die 4 U: Why Prince Became A Gen X Icon,” said Prince’s latchkey beginnings let him connect with Gen X in a way that his contemporaries couldn’t.

“He spoke to the things we cared about, our desires, our fears, our longings, and that’s a larger part of why he became an icon,” said Touré, at 41 a Gen Xer. “He was a knowing big brother, helping Gen Xers know who they wanted to be in the world.”

Divorce is a reality that binds Generation X, which refers to the 45 million Americans born between 1965 and 1982. The generation before, just 10 women in 1,000 divorced. By 1980, that number skyrocketed to 22 per 1,000, Touré said in the first of the three-part Alain LeRoy Locke Lecture Series, which is sponsored by the W.E.B. Du Bois Institute ...n Research.

Prince would experience divorce at a young age.

Born Prince Rogers Nelson in Minneapolis to John L. Nelson and Mattie Shaw, his parents divorced before he was 10. Constantly shifting between homes and changing addresses more than 30 times left an indelible mark on Prince. Despite his ups and downs, Prince reconciled with his father. Although there were awkward public reunions later in life, Prince rarely spoke of his mother, who he believes abandoned him for another man.

“He kept a lot of feelings to himself,” Touré said. “He has been shaped by being functionally abandoned by his mother.”

Between the lines of his lyrics, there are heart-wrenching cries for her, Touré suggested, such as in “When Doves Cry,” when the singer asks, “How can u just leave me standing alone in a world that’s so cold?”

For many, Prince’s music became a soundtrack for latchkey children who learned to raise themselves, just as he had brought himself up.

A small, nerdy, solitary boy, Prince sought to shape his own life by controlling everything within it.

Prince taught himself to play enough instruments to be his own band. Bands then became his surrogate family. Yet unlike parents happy to see their children succeed, Prince would fire members when they dared to want to leave the nest. To those who tried to know him, Prince could be as mysterious as the wordless love symbol that for a time in the late 1990s replaced his name.

Being born at the tail end of the ’50s allowed Prince to absorb the brightness of ’60s pop, soul, and rock music while sounding less-sunny themes that resonated with a Gen X weaned on the Watergate break-in and soured by growing sexually aware as the deadly AIDs epidemic emerged.

Another theme of his music, apathy toward nuclear annihilation, resonated with Gen Xers in his 1982 hit single “1999.” Prince suggests everyone give up running from the mushroom cloud and party: “Tryin’ 2 run from the destruction. U know I didn’t even care.”

“It’s the end of the world, let’s dance,” Touré said. “ ‘1999’ fits perfectly.”

Touré is author of last year’s “Who’s Afraid of Post-Blackness: What It Means to Be Black Now,” which looks at the shifting definitions of black identity in the 21st century.

After the lecture, Touré said that Prince — who early in his career was coy about his ethnicity — was a post-racial artist for a generation that eagerly overlooked skin color to embrace Bill Cosby, Eddie Murphy, and Michael Jordan as among the first major black crossover stars.

“Prince refuses to be pigeonholed,” Touré said. “There’s nothing wrong with crossing over. That’s the post-black ethos right there.”

Touré delivered the lecture at the Barker Center with moderator Henry Louis Gates Jr., the Alphonse Fletcher University Professor at Harvard University and the director of the W.E.B. Du Bois Institute.

The Alain LeRoy Locke Lectures were named for the father of the “Harlem Renaissance,” who lived from 1885 to 1954 and graduated from Harvard in 1907.

The lectures are co-sponsored by the Department of African and African American Studies, the Du Bois Institute, and Basic/Civitas Books.

Touré picks up today (March 21), with “Prince and Gen X Sexuality” and concludes Thursday with “Prince as Christ Figure.” Both lectures begin at 4

And he want's to keep his personal lives private even harvards talks about him.

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Reply #1 posted 03/22/12 1:33pm

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I would have liked to have gone to this lecture cool

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Reply #2 posted 03/22/12 1:40pm

MarquessMarq

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Thanks for posting. cool

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Reply #3 posted 03/22/12 1:55pm

Giovanni777

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This is great. I'd like a transcription of the lecture.

"He's a musician's musician..."
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Reply #4 posted 03/22/12 3:14pm

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kenkamken said:

I would have liked to have gone to this lecture cool

Tweets on the subject:

http://www.twylah.com/Tou...ics/prince

Icon interview - 1998:

http://princetext.tripod....con98.html

ALT+PLS+RTN: Pure as a pane of ice. It's a gift.
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Reply #5 posted 03/22/12 4:23pm

maafit

langebleu said:

kenkamken said:

I would have liked to have gone to this lecture cool

Thread here:

http://prince.org/msg/7/377582 for link see reply #8 below

explaining that the lectures will likely be the basis of a book.

Tweets on the subject:

http://www.twylah.com/Tou...ics/prince

Icon interview - 1998:

http://princetext.tripod....con98.html

thanks never read the interview 1998.

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Reply #6 posted 03/22/12 5:49pm

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langebleu said:

kenkamken said:

I would have liked to have gone to this lecture cool

Thread here:

http://prince.org/msg/7/377582

explaining that the lectures will likely be the basis of a book.

Tweets on the subject:

http://www.twylah.com/Tou...ics/prince

Icon interview - 1998:

http://princetext.tripod....con98.html

The first links keeps going to a thread on lawsuits. Please stop using it.

Thanks: Fixed - langebleu - moderator - see Reply #8 - 2 posts below

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Reply #7 posted 03/23/12 7:24pm

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I have heard Toure' speak on this subject more thn once nd he mkes some great points whether or not its all relevent is questionable.

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Reply #8 posted 03/24/12 5:35am

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http://prince.org/msg/7/377582

Thread explaining that the lectures will likely form the basis of a future book

ALT+PLS+RTN: Pure as a pane of ice. It's a gift.
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Reply #9 posted 03/24/12 8:03am

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laurarichardson said:

langebleu said:

Thread here:

http://prince.org/msg/7/377582

explaining that the lectures will likely be the basis of a book.

Tweets on the subject:

http://www.twylah.com/Tou...ics/prince

Icon interview - 1998:

http://princetext.tripod....con98.html

The first links keeps going to a thread on lawsuits. Please stop using it.

Thanks: Fixed - langebleu - moderator - see Reply #8 - 2 posts below

Prince Tweets by @Toure

“RT @da_breezman: @Toure Prince was an absolute GENIUS at making you think he was talking about one when it was really the other...”

Mar 22

I found the above tweet interesting because it reminded me of a verse in Prince's song 'Satisfied', as I'm sure many of his songs does that.

Satisfied - by Prince
"This is gonna b a long night (long)
A little bit longer afternoon (afternoon)
Girl, if we get this thing right (ooh)
Oh, U gonna get satisfied real soon (can't u see)
Can't U see eye'm just tryin' 2 get U satisfied (satisfied) yea

Eye ain't talking about nothing physical

'Cause 4play starts in the mind (in the mind) "

[Edited 3/24/12 8:07am]

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Reply #10 posted 03/24/12 9:32am

dJJ

Prince is part of the cohort 'baby boom generation', not generation X. That's a later generation.

Very interesting assumptions about his views of his mother, though. He is convinced his mother should have been his care taker and not his father. So, he perceived that his mother should have stayed with his abusive father and not protect herself from him. Interesting he blames the female mother figure in his life and seemingly forgave the male father figure.

His perception of his mother who left him, and his conviction that she could and should have took him with her, is entertaining for theorizing indeed.

The relationships he shows in the media seems very superficial. As if women are merely an object or model to him. In the public it is immediately understood when you refer to the looks of a girl as a "Prince girls". Dark long hair, beautiful, artistic (dance, music, poet etc.). These interchangeable models could be interpreted as a mean to maintain a narcistic image, in stead of a person whith whom he shares genuinely reciprocal love and interest. Narcistic as a defence mechanism is common among men who feel their mother has left them alone and they have nobody to rely on.

All very interesting speculations indeed.

99% of my posts are ironic. Maybe this post sides with the other 1%.
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