Heard this the other day while stuck in traffic (the best time to concetrate on sonics).

It's obviously not organic. IS there a steady pattern?

It just seems to be a bunch of fills!

It baffles me!!!

HELP!

nayroo2002 said:

Heard this the other day while stuck in traffic (the best time to concetrate on sonics).

It's obviously not organic. IS there a steady pattern?

It just seems to be a bunch of fills!

It baffles me!!!

HELP!

i believe this one is the drum machine. However, it sounds like instead of programming a loop pattern, he just played the machine live. It's a REALLY loose drum performance lol. I think this is one he should have used live drums.

WinterIsComing said:

nayroo2002 said:

Heard this the other day while stuck in traffic (the best time to concetrate on sonics).

It's obviously not organic. IS there a steady pattern?

It just seems to be a bunch of fills!

It baffles me!!!

HELP!

i believe this one is the drum machine. However, it sounds like instead of programming a loop pattern, he just played the machine live. It's a REALLY loose drum performance lol. I think this is one he should have used live drums.

It's almost the same with the released version of "Can't Stop This Feeling I Got".

Like you said, pokin' the pads to the beat in his head!

But, there has to be a simple, basic pattern in there somewhere, right?

I like that experi-mental side!

Check it right next to the drum beat of "In a Large Room With No Light" (studio version) and tell me what you hear!

ufoclub said:

Check it right next to the drum beat of "In a Large Room With No Light" (studio version) and tell me what you hear!

Those are real drums, though, right?

With sticks 'n' pedals 'n' shit!

I'm talkin' about randomly stabbin' at a buch of tiny buttons in perfect time and then build a song around it.

SICK!

nayroo2002 said:

ufoclub said:

Check it right next to the drum beat of "In a Large Room With No Light" (studio version) and tell me what you hear!

Those are real drums, though, right?

With sticks 'n' pedals 'n' shit!

I'm talkin' about randomly stabbin' at a buch of tiny buttons in perfect time and then build a song around it.

SICK!

It's just a very similar style of drum beat in some portions on completely different songs. Too bad we don't have a crystal clear "Large Room". Actually "Large Room" and "Play in the Sunshine" also have similar shifts and sections to themselves.

WinterIsComing said:

nayroo2002 said:

Heard this the other day while stuck in traffic (the best time to concetrate on sonics).

It's obviously not organic. IS there a steady pattern?

It just seems to be a bunch of fills!

It baffles me!!!

HELP!

i believe this one is the drum machine. However, it sounds like instead of programming a loop pattern, he just played the machine live. It's a REALLY loose drum performance lol. I think this is one he should have used live drums.

Such a good observation. Just because it's a drum machine doesn't mean you have to just program a loop and walk away. Of course, actual drums are usually better, imo. That said, P is definitely one of the meanest drum programmers/drum machine users out there in terms of making his drum machine sound real & fun.

I always thought the kick drum needed more bass added on it in the mix, and I don't mean bass guitar.

love the live versions from the same period, but I don't find it anywhere near perfect on the album. It is quite possible that it's partly because of bad mastering with not enough low end. The drums are annoying on the album version. But Sheila E can make this song SHINE.

nayroo2002 said:

I'm talkin' about randomly stabbin' at a buch of tiny buttons in perfect time and then build a song around it.

SICK!

I always thought it sounded more like something like this was going on.

I got to play around with a Linn drum machine for a few days in 1987 at

the studio my band was recording in. Because of how badly I was drooling over

the thing from the minute I laid eyes on it, the engineer let me play around with it

somethimes while we were there.

It had these sturdy hard plastic square buttons that you could play

the drum sounds with your fingers either solo or along with beat pattern loops,

adding extra beats or hits with the finger buttons.

I think he may have set up a basic pattern on the Linn and then augmenting

that with playing the extra hits and fills on the buttons that go on throughout the song.

I always thought it made for a good rhythm mix for the song. He is after all recreating

a live band sound and feel almost entirely by himself.

I think the sound quality of SOTT as a whole sounds better off of the vynil,

but I too sure would love to hear a nice remastered overhaul of this album.

I'm not a musician so reading these comments are fascinating - thank you everyone

BobGeorge909 said:

You can also wire it up to some electronic drum pads....the sound engineer did that for 1999 and purple rain live shows. Bobby z thought he was gonna he fired but he turned around and there were a bunch of pads on his kit. Talk about a happy drummer boy. [Edited 3/15/12 19:23pm]

I recently saw the purple rain live video for the first time in a while. Im sure when I first saw it (as a child) I didnt pay this much attention. But now as a grown musician, Im amazed at how the show still has the energy in the rhythm, considering it was mostly the pre-programmed linn. Bobby worked that thing magically augmenting the programs with his live cymbal/tom/ and clap hits. Plus, he had to watch prince like a hawk to be able to start and stop that thing on the right cues. Although Prince's future drummers (Michael B/J blackwell) had more chops, Bobby gets major props from me for pulling the linn/live hybrid off the way he did.

WinterIsComing said: