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Printablemrdespues said: Supernova said: mrdespues said: Sounds like most of you only started listening to Beck around the time of Midnite Vultures and Sea Change...you're missing out as these aren't his best albums, even though they are great, too.
For the record, I thought Odelay was overrated and got rid of it. 
I think you obsessed Prince fans are too elitist sometimes...I admit I don't listen to Odelay anymore...but it is a great and defining album of it's era. I don't know whether it's a question of being elitist, especially since Beck has in many ways been the pin-up boy for music critics over the last five years. I love lots of different styles of music, and lots of different artists. I was just trying to explain some of the issues I have with Beck's music, and perhaps illuminate why I can't fully get into it. I fully respect that you like him. | |
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mrdespues said: if you don't make music yourself, I guess it's sometimes hard to understand why some musicians make the music they make, but i DO make music and I get it and along with Prince, Beck is one of my favourite artists. I would call this elitist. But I make music also and I don't share your perspective... | |
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Midnite Vultures is one of my favourite albums of all time !! My favs are "Nicotine and Gravy"( a FANTASTIC song and he also did a great live version of it), "Mixed Bizness" and "Sexx Laws". I once heard him tell in an interview that his favourite song of the album and of his live performance is "Nicotine and Gravy", so the two of us share the same taste  With a very special thank you to Tina: Is hammer already absolute, how much some people verändern...ICH hope is never so I will be! And if, then I hope that I would then have wen in my environment who joins me in the A.... | |
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...he is the current musical chameleon in the same way Prince and Bowie were.
Talent borrows, genius steals. Beck is talented. | |
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fairmoan said: Beck suffers from the same malady that afflicted Bowie- he's too often style over substance. I think 'Debra' is a prime case in point. It's clearly a Prince pastiche, and it's so affected and contrived that it only comes off as lame imitation. That whole album ('Midnite Vultures') is a victim of its own self-conscious parody- everything is so far up its own arse that the music is neglected. I think it's great that he's finally dropped that whole postmodern stance on his latest album. He's found one of the most important ingredients of great art: emotional honesty.
[This message was edited Sat Feb 22 18:21:16 PST 2003 by fairmoan] --- I agree with you a 120%. The whole let's parody RnB music was ridiculous. Beck put to much time into the parody and not enough time into the music. He is overated. | |
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mrdespues said: "Beautiful Way".
this song takes me on an amazingly beautiful ride | |
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rdhull said: I need to apologize to beck pulicly..when this one came out ( Midnite Vultures) came out folks were saying he was funky etc and I scoffed big time and loudly..I must admit I had not heard the material of Midnite Vultures and thought he was not worthy of saying he was of Prince related funk etc..but when I finally heard Debra many months later I was floored. Love this song and I am sorry for being wrong about Beck back then on amp.
umm..Beck here...You REALLY hurt me.I didn't sleep for months.I should rip your damn earrings off!!!Where's my vaseline?? "I'm a pig..so,magic elixir I swill" | |
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fairmoan said: Beck suffers from the same malady that afflicted Bowie- he's too often style over substance. I think 'Debra' is a prime case in point. It's clearly a Prince pastiche, and it's so affected and contrived that it only comes off as lame imitation. That whole album ('Midnite Vultures') is a victim of its own self-conscious parody- everything is so far up its own arse that the music is neglected. I think it's great that he's finally dropped that whole postmodern stance on his latest album. He's found one of the most important ingredients of great art: emotional honesty.
[This message was edited Sat Feb 22 18:21:16 PST 2003 by fairmoan] 1. The whole album is clearly satirical in tone and mood, but it's funky at the same time. Frankly, I thought the music was tight. 2. That being said, I agree with you on the latest lp, which is genius. I didn't like it much on 1st hearing, but now I really dig it. Good night, sweet Prince | 7 June 1958 - 21 April 2016
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rockwilder said: rdhull said: I need to apologize to beck pulicly..when this one came out ( Midnite Vultures) came out folks were saying he was funky etc and I scoffed big time and loudly..I must admit I had not heard the material of Midnite Vultures and thought he was not worthy of saying he was of Prince related funk etc..but when I finally heard Debra many months later I was floored. Love this song and I am sorry for being wrong about Beck back then on amp.
umm..Beck here...You REALLY hurt me.I didn't sleep for months.I should rip your damn earrings off!!!Where's my vaseline?? Eye said Im sorry didn't eye? Eye will make it up 2 U.
(takes of high heels) "Climb in my fur." | |
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Hollywood Freaks from MV is the bomb, I love that track! I think I like it mostly because none of the lyrics make any sense whatsoever ("automatic bazooti", wtf?), but they rhyme, and the song essentially has as much substance that all the guys rapping about their money and ho's. I like this parody. | |
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rdhull said: rockwilder said: rdhull said: I need to apologize to beck pulicly..when this one came out ( Midnite Vultures) came out folks were saying he was funky etc and I scoffed big time and loudly..I must admit I had not heard the material of Midnite Vultures and thought he was not worthy of saying he was of Prince related funk etc..but when I finally heard Debra many months later I was floored. Love this song and I am sorry for being wrong about Beck back then on amp.
umm..Beck here...You REALLY hurt me.I didn't sleep for months.I should rip your damn earrings off!!!Where's my vaseline?? Eye said Im sorry didn't eye? Eye will make it up 2 U.
(takes of high heels) All is forgiven if you sing "Muskrat Love" to me standing in the bathtub with a pacifier in your mouth. "I'm a pig..so,magic elixir I swill" | |
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Glad to hear Beck getting some of the respect he deserves...he and Bjork are the most interesting things happening anymore.  Fear is the mind-killer. | |
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