SpiritOtter said:

catpark said:

I think he was born like that, in other words whatever career path he would of taken I think he would have been just as sucessful in his life, and we probably would of still heard about him one way of another. I strongly believe we are all pre-programmed to a certain degree if not the majority of our make up as human creatures.

catpark,

Pre-programmed, as in destiny?

love,

Spirit

No.

Something to do with his father?

theonly4ever said:

Something to do with his father?

theonly4ever,

Yours is an interesting insight.

Can you explain further?

love,

Spirit

dalsh327 said:

Creativity comes from all sorts of places, but I'm sure anyone who writes words around their melodies, would say it was depending on where he was going with the music. It's something you do by feel and see where it takes you. Sometimes songwriters can't explain what they wrote because they were in the zone at the time. When you write that many songs, he's prob. dreaming even more up, and I'm sure lost half of them 10 minutes after he woke up. He'd prob. be the first to say he had a thousand songs for Purple Rain, and lost 900 of them when he woke up.

Maybe that's why he rarely slept.

dalsh327,

I like your thoughts around creativity. Indeed, sleep/dreams are an interesting place where Prince has drawn his inspiration from.

"I was dreaming when I wrote this, forgive me if it goes astray"

Do you know where our dreams come from?

love,

Spirit

I am not too sure, but I read somewhere that Prince said, "God has given me this gift of music, however its is my job to bring it forth".

I'll be serious for a moment in here:

No it isn't genius or gift from god. Just like others throughout time who have had mastery of specific arts and such, it's part talent, yes, but a lot of HARD WORK/PRACTICE.

A lot of past media like to put God upon minority masters of craft as being divinely inspired/talented etc all the while ignoring the work put into their craft , getting them to their pinnacle. (Only thing that comes to mind from the other side is Amadeus where Salieri felt Am's talent as a prodigy was from heaven but meh...that's a movie).

And if Prince states or has stated it's from God, he is lying and he knows it. Yall have seen the rehearsals from Lovesexy on the documentary, heard the audio rehearsals from seminal tours of the 80's, rehearsals of specific songs, read about his high school days of practice practice practice. God if you are up there listening, you know I got your back dealin with these heathens down here, but you and I both know you had nothing to do with Princes' success.

now Old Scratch/Mephistopheles..thats something else to be considered

rdhull said:

No it isn't genius or gift from god... And if Prince states or has stated it's from God, he is lying and he knows it...God if you are up there listening, you know I got your back dealin with these heathens down here, but you and I both know you had nothing to do with Princes' success.

Rdhull,

If you are being serious for a moment, what, then, is the relationship between Prince and God?

love,

Spirit

catpark said:

SpiritOtter said:

catpark,

Pre-programmed, as in destiny?

love,

Spirit

No.

catpark,

If not destiny, then what?

love,

Spirit

SpiritOtter said:

theonly4ever said:

Something to do with his father?

theonly4ever,

Yours is an interesting insight.

Can you explain further?

love,

Spirit

Children need more than food and shelter to grow and feel safe. The most important element is love , and obviously, their parents love. From what i have read and heard, I can assume that Prince didn't get enough demonstration of love from his parents. When a child is desperate to get attention and love from mom and/or dad, he can develop psychological disorders ans it's well known today that serial killers had problematic childhoods.

Prince had to prove his father he was deserving his love and respect, and that could have been a source of motivation, force and rage. And maybe, years after (in 1988?) his father finally showed him some love...

But your question is also about the source of inspiration. Where does the grace come from? Or the genius, as you call it. I don't believe in god, but "feel" there is something else. Don't know what, but it expresses itself the best in music, I believe. And maths, too. We all have access to it in some degree,and even if we are not productive communicating this mistery (like Prince did with his music), we recognize it as "genius" in sciences and arts, specially in music.

Don't know...

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SpiritOtter said:

catpark said:

No.

catpark,

If not destiny, then what?

love,

Spirit

I do believe there is God(s)/higher power etc, but I think his achievements and successes are through to his genes, persistence and sheer hard work. When he’s mentioning God in his works I think a lot of it is just gratitude of what he’s has accomplished and what he has received. Prince is not stupid and I don’t think he’s got his head in the clouds as much as people like to think.