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Reply #30 posted 01/16/12 3:39am

thedance

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langebleu said:

thedance said:

I believe Prince once did play: "Bennie And The Jets" (the Elton John hit) ?

I can't remember where, though?

I have seen these 2 guys, Prince and Elton on the same stage, some audience live-dvd from the Prince tour at the O2 Arena in the UK 2007. Excellent.

I heart both artists deeply.

The night they performed together was 13 September, 2007.

Elton John made a guest appearance to sing "The Long and Winding Road".

Later, during the sample set, Prince played a very short sample of "Bennie and The Jets"

http://www.princevault.co...mber,_2007

^ Too bad that "Bennie And The Jets" was only a sample..

but thanks Langebleu.

for the facts. smile

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Reply #31 posted 01/16/12 5:16am

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Sun Ra got em all beat.

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Reply #32 posted 01/16/12 5:32am

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Swa said:

Sun Ra got em all beat.

In terms of quantity it's very possible, but in terms of #1 hits? lol

Other artists who were at least as prolific (quantity speaking) are Bill Laswell, Herbie Hancock, Ryuichi Sakamoto and Haruomi Hosono.

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Reply #33 posted 01/16/12 6:37am

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I can see what you are aiming at with this post, but prolific is merely an adjective. One could be the prolific chart buster, the most prolific ticket seller, the most prolific in video sales, etc.

So, while Prince could most prolific in one area, Elton could be most prolific in another. So, who is the most prolific performer? That would take more research than any of us here are prolly willing to do.
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Reply #34 posted 01/16/12 6:39am

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hollywooddove said:

I can see what you are aiming at with this post, but prolific is merely an adjective. One could be the prolific chart buster, the most prolific ticket seller, the most prolific in video sales, etc. So, while Prince could most prolific in one area, Elton could be most prolific in another. So, who is the most prolific performer? That would take more research than any of us here are prolly willing to do.


id be willing to bet theres at least one person that is not only willing, but is currently hard at work to figure this out

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Reply #35 posted 01/16/12 7:59am

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I think Prince is insanely prolific:

released:

http://princevault.com/index.php/A-Z_song_list

unreleased:

http://princevault.com/index.php/Unreleased_Songs

contibutions or studio recorded covers:

http://princevault.com/index.php/Songs:_Contribution_and_covers

and the amount of videos and side projects is staggering when you include the unreleased ones and the obscure ones.

And on an abstract level, the sheer amount of styles in which he makes music and adapts his voice also buries Elton John.

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Reply #36 posted 01/16/12 12:29pm

Timmy84

"Prince don't stand a fucking chance."

Like hell he does. I still listen to Prince's newer music than take another listen to Elton's adult craptemporary bullshit.

I think Prince has been more prolific than Elton.

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Reply #37 posted 01/16/12 1:43pm

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uuhson said:



hollywooddove said:


I can see what you are aiming at with this post, but prolific is merely an adjective. One could be the prolific chart buster, the most prolific ticket seller, the most prolific in video sales, etc. So, while Prince could most prolific in one area, Elton could be most prolific in another. So, who is the most prolific performer? That would take more research than any of us here are prolly willing to do.


id be willing to bet theres at least one person that is not only willing, but is currently hard at work to figure this out


That is a scary thought.
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Reply #38 posted 01/16/12 1:45pm

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databank said:

Swa said:

Sun Ra got em all beat.

In terms of quantity it's very possible, but in terms of #1 hits? lol

Other artists who were at least as prolific (quantity speaking) are Bill Laswell, Herbie Hancock, Ryuichi Sakamoto and Haruomi Hosono.

Lol.

Well in terms of the discussion - most prolific artist I'd have to say well over 100 albums containing 1000 songs for Sun Ra is pretty prolific - but yeah he sucked on the #1 hits, lol.

I'm impressed though DB - nice to see someone who knew who he was.

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Reply #39 posted 01/16/12 1:50pm

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First, they arent from the same generation

Second: having consecutive HIT SINGLES has NOTHING to do with being prolific

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Reply #40 posted 01/16/12 1:54pm

Timmy84

It could be argued Elton is less prolific than he was pre-1976.

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Reply #41 posted 01/16/12 4:45pm

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Proflific means: Producing abundant works. Obviously Prince has got EVERYONE beat because he never stops making up songs, and he's continued for this many years. What's it like 2 demos a week?

His reputation inside the industry is well known to ALWAYS be working on something, at home, in another city, or on the road.

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Reply #42 posted 01/16/12 6:12pm

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"Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything." --Plato

https://youtu.be/CVwv9LZMah0
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Reply #43 posted 01/16/12 6:17pm

Timmy84

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Reply #44 posted 01/16/12 6:20pm

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Elton's too busy poncing around ordering flowers, getting wigs fitted and buying art to be as prolific as Prince.

Elton is without a doubt the more prolific shopper, wig adjuster and sniffer of flowers than Prince.

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Reply #45 posted 01/16/12 6:31pm

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Elton's too busy poncing around ordering flowers, getting wigs fitted and buying art to be as prolific as Prince.

Elton is without a doubt the more prolific shopper, wig adjuster and sniffer of flowers than Prince.

And starting beefs with pop stars, flight attendants and shopping for his baby's clothes. lol

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Reply #46 posted 01/16/12 6:39pm

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^^ Yeah, that too.

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Reply #47 posted 01/16/12 6:56pm

Timmy84

TheDigitalGardener said:

^^ Yeah, that too.

And an alleged beef with his mother over something I forgot it was about. I saw it on his Wikipedia page but it was edited out I think so it might not be true but still fascinating how he seems to have devolved. confused

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Reply #48 posted 01/16/12 7:35pm

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Timmy84 said:

TheDigitalGardener said:

^^ Yeah, that too.

And an alleged beef with his mother over something I forgot it was about. I saw it on his Wikipedia page but it was edited out I think so it might not be true but still fascinating how he seems to have devolved. confused

His brother pops up around once a year in the UK gutter press to remind us all how much he hates Elton and would never take a penny from him, lol

He lives in a caravan somewhere in rural England, drinks piss cheap cider all day and lives off £60 a week benefits.

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Reply #49 posted 01/16/12 7:36pm

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Finally, a thread not comparing Prince to MJ.

Elton John is a good musician. But lately he's just collaborating with artists like Gaga that really piss me the fuck off. I think he only does that just to show off how better he is than them. I mean, him going into a piano play off with Gaga? SHe got owned...lol

Prince, the ol' Purple Meister, is actually more prolific than Elton. Simple as that. It's not simply a matter of hits. It's memorability. I think more and more people can recognize more Prince songs than Elton songs. Prince has also broke into the film industry as well with Purple Rain, UTCM, and so on. They're pretty much cult hits.

Prince is also black, and light-skinned at that. I think him being a successful black artist makes him accessible to more races and cultures than simply a Caucasian population. Maybe not as "popular" or as "recognized", and hell, maybe even snubbed. But hey, the fans speak for themselves.

But personally, I'd like to see Prince and Elton fight it out. It should be interesting. lol

I'd even scalped the tickets. razz

The salvation of man is through love and in love. - Dr. V. Frankl

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"I don't need anger management, I need people to stop pissing me off" lol
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Reply #50 posted 01/16/12 8:04pm

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ThruTheEyesOfWonder said:

Prince, the ol' Purple Meister, is actually more prolific than Elton. Simple as that. It's not simply a matter of hits. It's memorability. I think more and more people can recognize more Prince songs than Elton songs.

I think as far as the mainstream is concerned, they're about the same in that regard.

chill..prince doesnt like men being front row, makes it hard to sing the ballads
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Reply #51 posted 01/17/12 3:22am

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Swa said:

databank said:

In terms of quantity it's very possible, but in terms of #1 hits? lol

Other artists who were at least as prolific (quantity speaking) are Bill Laswell, Herbie Hancock, Ryuichi Sakamoto and Haruomi Hosono.

Lol.

Well in terms of the discussion - most prolific artist I'd have to say well over 100 albums containing 1000 songs for Sun Ra is pretty prolific - but yeah he sucked on the #1 hits, lol.

I'm impressed though DB - nice to see someone who knew who he was.

I know only 2 albums, but I have a dozen others 2 listen that I've downloaded quite a while ago... One of the artists I want to go deeper into, but haven't had the time to yet... wink I was quite impressed by the 2 albums I have listened to so far biggrin

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Reply #52 posted 01/17/12 11:38am

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TheDigitalGardener said:

Timmy84 said:

And an alleged beef with his mother over something I forgot it was about. I saw it on his Wikipedia page but it was edited out I think so it might not be true but still fascinating how he seems to have devolved. confused

His brother pops up around once a year in the UK gutter press to remind us all how much he hates Elton and would never take a penny from him, lol

He lives in a caravan somewhere in rural England, drinks piss cheap cider all day and lives off £60 a week benefits.

lol I didn't know he even had a brother. lol

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Reply #53 posted 01/17/12 11:42am

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There is a kind of link between the two as there work is very unique and they are both great showmen/songwriters.....elton also has written for film scores biggrin Both exceptional pianists!

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Reply #54 posted 01/17/12 11:43am

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thedance said:

Speaking of top 40 hit singles,

Elton John may be the true "King of pop", sorry if ther's any MJ fans in the house... wink

The Funk Brothers played on more hits than Elton, Prince, & Mike put together.

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Reply #55 posted 01/17/12 4:17pm

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Do you know what the word "prolific" means?

apparently not

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Reply #56 posted 01/17/12 9:46pm

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If you take a look at what they've both done careerwise, it's pretty even, but Elton's brought 3 or 4 musicals to Broadway and an animated feature film that grossed close to 200 million dollars. Prince has made movies, and Purple Rain is the only one that's made a nice chunk of change and still gets played. Elton's scored movies but appeared in maybe one or two, counting a documentary.

I think as far as collaborating with other artists, it prob. evens out in the studio, but Elton's done countless benefit concerts. Producing other artists - Prince over Elton.

They both natural musicians, where either one could write a song in under 10 minutes and have words to it. Prince in the studio would be able to take on other instruments and get behind the consol and have a finished recording. Elton would need assistants to help him get there.

Prolific in the studio - Prince wins.

Prolific live - draw. Either one can play a solo show or with a full band. They both have a body of work where people would know at least 20 songs going in. Elton and Prince know a lot of covers and could easily do a show of nothing but covers and bring the house down. Prince doesn't get stuck behind the piano the way Elton does, and can either strap the guitar on or just get on the mic and be a showman.

We have no idea how many melodies are in Elton's head and how many songs he's demoed, or Prince. You can't get into something that's only known to the artists.

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Reply #57 posted 01/18/12 5:28am

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biggrin The funk brothers drop the funk! cool thumbs up!

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Reply #58 posted 01/18/12 10:36pm

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dalsh327 said:

If you take a look at what they've both done careerwise, it's pretty even, but Elton's brought 3 or 4 musicals to Broadway and an animated feature film that grossed close to 200 million dollars. Prince has made movies, and Purple Rain is the only one that's made a nice chunk of change and still gets played. Elton's scored movies but appeared in maybe one or two, counting a documentary.

I think as far as collaborating with other artists, it prob. evens out in the studio, but Elton's done countless benefit concerts. Producing other artists - Prince over Elton.

They both natural musicians, where either one could write a song in under 10 minutes and have words to it. Prince in the studio would be able to take on other instruments and get behind the consol and have a finished recording. Elton would need assistants to help him get there.

Prolific in the studio - Prince wins.

Prolific live - draw. Either one can play a solo show or with a full band. They both have a body of work where people would know at least 20 songs going in. Elton and Prince know a lot of covers and could easily do a show of nothing but covers and bring the house down. Prince doesn't get stuck behind the piano the way Elton does, and can either strap the guitar on or just get on the mic and be a showman.

We have no idea how many melodies are in Elton's head and how many songs he's demoed, or Prince. You can't get into something that's only known to the artists.

"Prolific live", Prince most likely wins hands down. If you count the number of live shows or music performances that Prince does it's incredible, the list is long (as are the list of live bootlegs documenting only a some of these shows). He sometimes does 2 concerts a night.

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Reply #59 posted 01/19/12 9:49pm

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ufoclub said:

dalsh327 said:

If you take a look at what they've both done careerwise, it's pretty even, but Elton's brought 3 or 4 musicals to Broadway and an animated feature film that grossed close to 200 million dollars. Prince has made movies, and Purple Rain is the only one that's made a nice chunk of change and still gets played. Elton's scored movies but appeared in maybe one or two, counting a documentary.

I think as far as collaborating with other artists, it prob. evens out in the studio, but Elton's done countless benefit concerts. Producing other artists - Prince over Elton.

They both natural musicians, where either one could write a song in under 10 minutes and have words to it. Prince in the studio would be able to take on other instruments and get behind the consol and have a finished recording. Elton would need assistants to help him get there.

Prolific in the studio - Prince wins.

Prolific live - draw. Either one can play a solo show or with a full band. They both have a body of work where people would know at least 20 songs going in. Elton and Prince know a lot of covers and could easily do a show of nothing but covers and bring the house down. Prince doesn't get stuck behind the piano the way Elton does, and can either strap the guitar on or just get on the mic and be a showman.

We have no idea how many melodies are in Elton's head and how many songs he's demoed, or Prince. You can't get into something that's only known to the artists.

"Prolific live", Prince most likely wins hands down. If you count the number of live shows or music performances that Prince does it's incredible, the list is long (as are the list of live bootlegs documenting only a some of these shows). He sometimes does 2 concerts a night.

Prince has been doing this since the '80s so no shock lol nod

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