could imagine them two on the same stage trading guitar solos?!?! OMFG!

avasdad said:

could imagine them two on the same stage trading guitar solos?!?! OMFG!

That would be awesome... it would be a major improvement on his current guitar player.

jayARDAHB said:

avasdad said:

could imagine them two on the same stage trading guitar solos?!?! OMFG!

That would be awesome... it would be a major improvement on his current guitar player.

Jay are you crazy

Prince plays great rhythm guitar ,great solos and he is a beast on guitar.

Jesse is cool player but not in Prince's league.

Jesse's soloing in more rooted in classical blues cliche's while Prince is more sophisticated.

To tell you the truth when you're acomplished guitar

player what makes you a standout guitar player

is your ability to compose better solos

then other players and i think

Prince's solos are much better composed and memorable.

Jesse's solos are more about flash ,btw i love Jesse but

Jesse wouldn't fit Prince's sound.

It would be cool to see, but I think their egos would get in the way of it ever coming to fruition. Prince would try to out play Jesse and Jesse would try to out play Prince at every turn. Prince would light that ass up, but Jesse would hold his own.

If he got that hair did (activator please) and didn't quit one week into the tour..it'd be hot

thebanishedone said:

jayARDAHB said:

That would be awesome... it would be a major improvement on his current guitar player.

Jay are you crazy

Prince plays great rhythm guitar ,great solos and he is a beast on guitar.

Jesse is cool player but not in Prince's league.

Jesse's soloing in more rooted in classical blues cliche's while Prince is more sophisticated.

To tell you the truth when you're acomplished guitar

player what makes you a standout guitar player

is your ability to compose better solos

then other players and i think

Prince's solos are much better composed and memorable.

Jesse's solos are more about flash ,btw i love Jesse but

Jesse wouldn't fit Prince's sound.

I don't disagree Banishedone... not one bit with anything you've shared here.

I kinda liked it when Prince used to play rhythm and solo parts every once in a while during his shows - I like the MC version of Prince where he's doing a lot of singing and dancing and crowd work.

All things aside, Prince is so damn good at so many things that it's hard to pinpoint just exactly what I enjoy about it all.

J

'how would it be if Jesse Johnson joined Prince's touring band??'

I think that would be an excellent idea! Jesse already was practically a member of Prince band by being in The Time during the Controversy & 1999 tours . Since Prince rehearsed them 6 hours every day. so it wouldn't be much difference. Prince practically groomed jesse 2 b a super star. Words out of Jesse's own mouth.

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avasdad said:

could imagine them two on the same stage trading guitar solos?!?! OMFG!

That would be Awesome!

thebanishedone said:

jayARDAHB said:

That would be awesome... it would be a major improvement on his current guitar player.

Jay are you crazy

Prince plays great rhythm guitar ,great solos and he is a beast on guitar.

Jesse is cool player but not in Prince's league.

Jesse's soloing in more rooted in classical blues cliche's while Prince is more sophisticated.

To tell you the truth when you're acomplished guitar

player what makes you a standout guitar player

is your ability to compose better solos

then other players and i think

Prince's solos are much better composed and memorable.

Jesse's solos are more about flash ,btw i love Jesse but

Jesse wouldn't fit Prince's sound.

Very well said thebanishedone

nursev said:

Jesse Johnson is great, but THERE IS NO WAY IN HELL that he is anywhere near as good as Prince! I wish folks would stop trying to make it seem that way.

Yeah right. I like Jesse, but Prince needs that headache? I don't think so.

Besides, Prince is crazy and diva enough to comfortably take the place of Kim Jong Il of North Korea without anyone noticing. Why would want to chance someone crowding his style?

rdhull said:

thebanishedone said:

jayARDAHB said:

That would be awesome... it would be a major improvement on his current guitar player.

Jay are you crazy

Prince plays great rhythm guitar ,great solos and he is a beast on guitar.

Jesse is cool player but not in Prince's league.

Jesse's soloing in more rooted in classical blues cliche's while Prince is more sophisticated.

To tell you the truth when you're acomplished guitar

player what makes you a standout guitar player

is your ability to compose better solos

then other players and i think

Prince's solos are much better composed and memorable.

Jesse's solos are more about flash ,btw i love Jesse but

Jesse wouldn't fit Prince's sound.

Maybe Jay was comparing Jesse to Andy not Prince himself...

Astasheiks said:

Ohhhh, nice idea, but that would never work. There is barely enough for Jesse to do in The Time as the only guitar. He would be bored to tears playing second guitar to Prince. Everytime Prince took a solo Jesse would be in the back, mean mugging him, thinking "I can play better than that."

nursev said:

Jesse Johnson is great, but THERE IS NO WAY IN HELL that he is anywhere near as good as Prince! I wish folks would stop trying to make it seem that way.

I don't think anyone made it seem that way as far as this thread is concerned,

I don't think Jesse playing with Prince means Jesse has to be as good as Prince

The added layer of guitar to me takes the quality up.

When he played the Beautiful Ones in the last few years the lack of rock guitar just made the

song sound flat, and nothing the ballet dancer did could fill that void

There are certain songs that just need that extra guitar muscle

thebanishedone said:

jayARDAHB said:

That would be awesome... it would be a major improvement on his current guitar player.

Jay are you crazy

Prince plays great rhythm guitar ,great solos and he is a beast on guitar.

Jesse is cool player but not in Prince's league.

Jesse's soloing in more rooted in classical blues cliche's while Prince is more sophisticated.

To tell you the truth when you're acomplished guitar

player what makes you a standout guitar player

is your ability to compose better solos

then other players and i think

Prince's solos are much better composed and memorable.

Jesse's solos are more about flash ,btw i love Jesse but

Jesse wouldn't fit Prince's sound.

Why did you think he was comparing Jesse with Prince, he was saying Jesse would be a major improvement 2 Andy Allo

As if.

JESSIE JOHSON ON THE LOW CAN'T STAND PRINCE AND WILL TEAR HIM A NEW ASSHOLE ON THE AXE. PRINCE'S CHOPS HAS FALLEN OFF THE YEARS.

I'd suspect he doesn't like Jesse much.

thebanishedone said:

Man so many begginer guitar players would be better then andy.andy is totaly useless on guitar.don't expect andy to play double guitar lines on computer ble anytime soon

lol silly

If that was to happen, Prince would always have to have a back-up guitar player on board at all times, seeing how Jesse now will be known for quitting without advanced notice to fans. It just wouldn't work no matter how good Jesse's guitar playing is. Jesse did say he was a loner apparently not feeling fulfilled playing within a group. If you're in a band, your bandmates rely on you to be there. If you have someone in your band, who can 'F' the game up at any minute, you always have to be 2 steps ahead of them with a plan 'B' and 'C'.

I appears Jesse wants to be able to be a standout guitar player 'shining his guitar-playing skills in the light, ' and hoping to become as successful as musicians/performers, such as Prince, Santana, and others who have achieved their success/fame through hard work and patience. Jesse just needs to find a way to do that, if he desires to reach that level.

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When eagles fly.........

They never wait their turn

Prince and Jesse.......

Would just crash b4 the burn.

2elijah said:

If that was to happen, Prince would always have to have a back-up guitar player on board at all times, seeing how Jesse now will be known for quitting without advanced notice to fans. It just wouldn't work no matter how good Jesse's guitar playing is. Jesse did say he was a loner apparently not feeling fulfilled playing within a group. If you're in a band, your bandmates rely on you to be there. If you have someone in your band, who can 'F' the game up at any minute, you always have to be 2 steps ahead of them with a plan 'B' and 'C'.

I appears Jesse wants to be able to be a standout guitar player 'shining his guitar-playing skills in the light, ' and hoping to become as successful as musicians/performers, such as Prince, Santana, and others who have achieved their success/fame through hard work and patience. Jesse just needs to find a way to do that, if he desires to reach that level.

Jesse never quit the Time until it was evident that the band wasn't going anywhere, since Morris Day was done during the PR era.

If Prince on maybe 3-4 songs an album let the band record he would have had a better chemistry

You can't punk men around and expect the best

Jesse as far as I know was very dedicated to the band. Prince kept to much of a tight hold on them. These guys no matter the circumstances believed in Prince and what he was doing then

I think that's why the 1999 Triple Threat era was so hot Prince & the noituloveR + Jill Jones Vanity 6 & the Time was really for what was happening.

Prince made a big mistake in firing Jimmy Jam & Terry Lewis

OldFriends4Sale said:

2elijah said:

If that was to happen, Prince would always have to have a back-up guitar player on board at all times, seeing how Jesse now will be known for quitting without advanced notice to fans. It just wouldn't work no matter how good Jesse's guitar playing is. Jesse did say he was a loner apparently not feeling fulfilled playing within a group. If you're in a band, your bandmates rely on you to be there. If you have someone in your band, who can 'F' the game up at any minute, you always have to be 2 steps ahead of them with a plan 'B' and 'C'.

I appears Jesse wants to be able to be a standout guitar player 'shining his guitar-playing skills in the light, ' and hoping to become as successful as musicians/performers, such as Prince, Santana, and others who have achieved their success/fame through hard work and patience. Jesse just needs to find a way to do that, if he desires to reach that level.

Jesse never quit the Time until it was evident that the band wasn't going anywhere, since Morris Day was done during the PR era.

If Prince on maybe 3-4 songs an album let the band record he would have had a better chemistry

You can't punk men around and expect the best

Jesse as far as I know was very dedicated to the band. Prince kept to much of a tight hold on them. These guys no matter the circumstances believed in Prince and what he was doing then

I think that's why the 1999 Triple Threat era was so hot Prince & the noituloveR + Jill Jones Vanity 6 & the Time was really for what was happening.

Prince made a big mistake in firing Jimmy Jam & Terry Lewis

I thought Morris heard about Jesse's pending record deal before he decided to leave himself.

HonestMan13 said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

Jesse never quit the Time until it was evident that the band wasn't going anywhere, since Morris Day was done during the PR era.

If Prince on maybe 3-4 songs an album let the band record he would have had a better chemistry

You can't punk men around and expect the best

Jesse as far as I know was very dedicated to the band. Prince kept to much of a tight hold on them. These guys no matter the circumstances believed in Prince and what he was doing then

I think that's why the 1999 Triple Threat era was so hot Prince & the noituloveR + Jill Jones Vanity 6 & the Time was really for what was happening.

Prince made a big mistake in firing Jimmy Jam & Terry Lewis

I thought Morris heard about Jesse's pending record deal before he decided to leave himself.

Morris was done when Prince fired Jimmy & Terry, he said it changed the chemistry of the band and it was not the same anymore

The line-up of THE TIME finally underwent some more changes. [Monte Moir] made the decision to leave the band when he heard, that [Jimmy Jam] and [Terry Lewis] had been let go by Prince. [Terry Lewis] was replaced on bass by [Rocky Harris], a local musician who knew [Jesse Johnson]. The replacements for [Jimmy Jam] and [Monte Moir] on keyboards were found in

[Paul Peterson], a member of Twin-Cities first family in jazz and [Mark Cardenas], a Los Angeles native, who had been working in jazz-rock fusion circles in Minneapolis a few years before.

On 4th October 1983, the new THE TIME line-up premiered live at First Avenue in Minneapolis. [Jerome Benton] introduced the show, enlisting the help of several bikini-clad models. He also did a soul-preacher routine, begging the audience for donations and passing a plate through the audience for their contributions to a charity fund. THE TIME played an 8-song set that includes two at this time previously unknown tracks - Jungle love and The bird. The concert was taped professional with a mobile recording unit and the live-version of The bird finally ended up on THE TIME's third album [Ice Cream Castle]. Despite a wildly receptive audience, this concert was filled with tension and it was obvious, that [Morris Day] was beginning to loose interest in the band. At the end of the show he stormed off the stage, bypassed the dressing room, and charged out the stagedoor to his Porsche. The confused band members remained behind for a somewhat tainted celebration. [Morris Day] was very dissatisfied with [Prince]'s firm control of THE TIME and the hand-picked additions to the band. Despite achieving a big commercial success with the previously two albums of THE TIME, he was also still seeing very little money for his work.

The shooting to the "Purple Rain" motion picture starts on 1st November 1983. The new bass player [Rocky Harris] showed up late for the first day of filming and was replaced by [Prince] with [Jerry Hubbard], from a noted Twin-Cities musical family, immediately. [Morris Day] was very uncooperative and chronically late to all rehearsals and filmings. He and [Prince] hardly talked with each other during the whole shooting of the movie. At one day of filming both ended up in a real fistfight and [Jellybean Johnson] had to break it up. It was evident, that they both would soon be going their separate ways without each other.

On 8th June 1984, THE TIME, led by [Jesse Johnson], performed Jungle love live on the 3rd annual Minnesota Black Music Awards at the Prom Center in St. Paul. [Morris Day] wasn't present at this event and his conspicuous absence sparked rumors, that THE TIME had broken up.

In late June 1984 [Morris Day] was definitely no longer interested to continuing his work with THE TIME, has moved to Santa Monica in Los Angeles (CA) and severed ties with [Prince]'s camp and his management team. Their departures weren't announced officially until after the premiere of the "Purple Rain" motion picture. Without [Morris Day], it was basically [Jesse Johnson] who leads the band. [Prince] initially wanted continue THE TIME by installing [Paul Peterson] as new frontman and lead-singer, but [Jesse Johnson] rejected this idea. After failed attempts to convince [Morris Day] to return to Minneapolis, all come to the conclusion, that THE TIME was history.

IF and only if we ignore the egos, politics and emotions that would never let this idea happen, it COULD be interesting.

All of Prince's guitarists have more a funk/soul/jazz vibe -- all except Dez that is. Not saying Jesse is better but he would inject a bit of edginess like he got from Dez on the Dirty Mind, Controversy and 1999 tours that's been missing of late. Maybe an injection of conflict and tension would help too!