...specially by his obsessed fans, lol

mine:

For You

Prince '79

Around the World in a Day

Lovesexy

The Truth

ONA

Come

The Gold Experience

The Rainbow Children

Both of these are over the top overrated by some in the Prince community. Both of these were complete failures in sales, and if given a chance to listen to them, the general public rate as low and as bad as they should. This is one case where sales and quality and public perception really match perfectly. No amount of marketing can make people other than the most obsessed amongst us declare these "good" or the "best" of even pretend to like it.

You really do need to brainwash yourself to like these. TRC is a prime example. We have comically seen people here over and over subject themselves to the torture of it in yet another failed attempt to see how or why pupledidgdong123 thinks it's so great

By far these are the two most overrated Prince Albums.

I can understand if some fans dismiss TGE due to the excessive production, but this statement

V10LETBLUES said:

The Gold Experience

a complete failures in sales, and if given a chance to listen to it, the general public rate as low and as bad as they should. This is one case where sales and quality and public perception really match perfectly.

is the BIGGEST bullshit i've read here...sorry

with a real/proper promotion/distribution by both Warner and Prince, TGE could have been a multiplatinum, I'm talking about 2 million in the US and 5-6 worldwide...easily...

V10LETBLUES said:

The Gold Experience

The Rainbow Children

Both of these are over the top overrated by some in the Prince community. Both of these were complete failures in sales, and if given a chance to listen to them, the general public rate as low and as bad as they should. This is one case where sales and quality and public perception really match perfectly. No amount of marketing can make people other than the most obsessed amongst us declare these "good" or the "best" of even pretend to like it.

You really do need to brainwash yourself to like these. TRC is a prime example. We have comically seen people here over and over subject themselves to the torture of it in yet another failed attempt to see how or why pupledidgdong123 thinks it's so great

By far these are the two most overrated Prince Albums.

JoeTyler said:

I can understand if some fans dismiss TGE due to the excessive production, but this statement

V10LETBLUES said:

The Gold Experience

a complete failures in sales, and if given a chance to listen to it, the general public rate as low and as bad as they should. This is one case where sales and quality and public perception really match perfectly.

is the BIGGEST bullshit i've read here...sorry

with a real/proper promotion/distribution by both Warner and Prince, TGE could have been a multiplatinum, I'm talking about 2 million in the US and 5-6 worldwide...easily...

It's a little more than just your opinion, it's called being an Evangelist. Nothing wrong with preaching about something you believe in, facts just do not support that though.

That particular album received far better promotion and had far better name recognition than most of the music at the top of the charts that particular year. Whatever you may think of public opinion, the fact is that it got more than it's fair shake ad people thumbed their nose at it. And with good reason.

V10LETBLUES said:

JoeTyler said:

I can understand if some fans dismiss TGE due to the excessive production, but this statement

is the BIGGEST bullshit i've read here...sorry

with a real/proper promotion/distribution by both Warner and Prince, TGE could have been a multiplatinum, I'm talking about 2 million in the US and 5-6 worldwide...easily...

It's a little more than just your opinion, it's called being an Evangelist. Nothing wrong with preaching about something you believe in, facts just do not support that though.

That particular album received far better promotion and had far better name recognition than most of the music at the top of the charts that particular year. Whatever you may think of public opinion, the fact is that it got more than it's fair shake ad people thumbed their nose at it. And with good reason.

What facts would support your claim that The Gold Experience received far better promotion and had far better name recognition than most of the music at the top of the charts that particular year?

The album simply appeared in the stores one day. Most of the promotional work for it by Prince was done 1-2 years before it finally got released. There was a huge gap between the release of the album and The Most Beautiful Girl In The World single (which was a big hit around the world).

The reviews for it were mixed, but it typically got 3 or 4 star reviews.

V10LETBLUES said:

JoeTyler said:

I can understand if some fans dismiss TGE due to the excessive production, but this statement

is the BIGGEST bullshit i've read here...sorry

with a real/proper promotion/distribution by both Warner and Prince, TGE could have been a multiplatinum, I'm talking about 2 million in the US and 5-6 worldwide...easily...

It's a little more than just your opinion, it's called being an Evangelist. Nothing wrong with preaching about something you believe in, facts just do not support that though.

That particular album received far better promotion and had far better name recognition than most of the music at the top of the charts that particular year. Whatever you may think of public opinion, the fact is that it got more than it's fair shake ad people thumbed their nose at it. And with good reason.

please, you can keep sayin' that you think TGE is overproduced/cheesy/overrated, but stop sayin' that it had real/proper promotion/distribution, unless you enjoy LYING in front of everybody

novabrkr said:

V10LETBLUES said:

It's a little more than just your opinion, it's called being an Evangelist. Nothing wrong with preaching about something you believe in, facts just do not support that though.

That particular album received far better promotion and had far better name recognition than most of the music at the top of the charts that particular year. Whatever you may think of public opinion, the fact is that it got more than it's fair shake ad people thumbed their nose at it. And with good reason.

What facts would support your claim that The Gold Experience received far better promotion and had far better name recognition than most of the music at the top of the charts that particular year?

The album simply appeared in the stores one day. Most of the promotional work for it by Prince was done 1-2 years before it finally got released. There was a huge gap between the release of the album and The Most Beautiful Girl In The World single (which was a big hit around the world).

The reviews for it were mixed, but it typically got 3 or 4 star reviews.

exactly

exactly

and exactly

novabrkr said:

V10LETBLUES said:

It's a little more than just your opinion, it's called being an Evangelist. Nothing wrong with preaching about something you believe in, facts just do not support that though.

That particular album received far better promotion and had far better name recognition than most of the music at the top of the charts that particular year. Whatever you may think of public opinion, the fact is that it got more than it's fair shake ad people thumbed their nose at it. And with good reason.

What facts would support your claim that The Gold Experience received far better promotion and had far better name recognition than most of the music at the top of the charts that particular year?

The album simply appeared in the stores one day. Most of the promotional work for it by Prince was done 1-2 years before it finally got released. There was a huge gap between the release of the album and The Most Beautiful Girl In The World single (which was a big hit around the world).

The reviews for it were mixed, but it typically got 3 or 4 star reviews.

C'mon, all albums just "simply appear" The album has videos and singles that were dispatched and played at all of the proper channels. in FACT, Prince had name recognition and a cachet that most artists would die for. It is such a complete cop-out to even try and compare Prince to most artists at the top of the charts. He was given special treatment that only a handful of artists receive, These are the facts, whether they are palatable to the narrative you are perusing or not.

1. Around the World In A Day

2. Crystal Ball

ONA Live

How do you define overrated? Overrated by the general public, overrated by hardcore fans, overrated by casual fans, overrated by critics, the list could go on.

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V10LETBLUES said:

novabrkr said:

What facts would support your claim that The Gold Experience received far better promotion and had far better name recognition than most of the music at the top of the charts that particular year?

The album simply appeared in the stores one day. Most of the promotional work for it by Prince was done 1-2 years before it finally got released. There was a huge gap between the release of the album and The Most Beautiful Girl In The World single (which was a big hit around the world).

The reviews for it were mixed, but it typically got 3 or 4 star reviews.

C'mon, all albums just "simply appear" The album has videos and singles that were dispatched and played at all of the proper channels. in FACT, Prince had name recognition and a cachet that most artists would die for. It is such a complete cop-out to even try and compare Prince to most artists at the top of the charts. He was given special treatment that only a handful of artists receive, These are the facts, whether they are palatable to the narrative you are perusing or not.

You are not providing any facts. You don't seem to understand what the word "fact" means.

It's okay to think that The Gold Experience is overrated by Prince's fan base. I like many of the tracks on the album myself, but I think that in overall Prince seemed to be far less mature as a person and as an artist in his mid-30s than in his mid-20s. However, your constant bickering about that particular album on this site has gotten beyond annoying.

Here's just one example of what the "general public" might think of the album (check out the reviews):

http://www.amazon.com/Gol...B000002N1E

novabrkr said:

V10LETBLUES said:

C'mon, all albums just "simply appear" The album has videos and singles that were dispatched and played at all of the proper channels. in FACT, Prince had name recognition and a cachet that most artists would die for. It is such a complete cop-out to even try and compare Prince to most artists at the top of the charts. He was given special treatment that only a handful of artists receive, These are the facts, whether they are palatable to the narrative you are perusing or not.

You are not providing any facts. You don't seem to understand what the word "fact" means.

It's okay to think that The Gold Experience is overrated by Prince's fan base. I like many of the tracks on the album myself, but I think that in overall Prince seemed to be far less mature as a person and as an artist in his mid-30s than in his mid-20s. However, your constant bickering about that particular album on this site has gotten beyond annoying.

Here's just one example of what the "general public" might think of the album (check out the reviews):

http://www.amazon.com/Gol...B000002N1E

I didn't want to make you to feel so wounded over this. Videos and singles do constitute as facts of promotion lol. The cachet that Prince had at the time came from being an international music superstar. It gave Prince and but a handful of artists at that point in their careers carte blanche that allowed radio stations and music directors to play and give their latest efforts priority over unknown artists. This is also a fact. Gold Experience singles and videos were dispatched and played on radio stations and video shows. Also facts.

The general public did not bite. WB likes nothing better than to make a profit form it's products. I have a feeling that sales and profits plays a at least some small part in what that organization strives for.

Like I said, sorry that this does not fit your narrative, but these are facts. Like them or not.

Are you suggesting that there was a "conspiracy"

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Overrated:

Lovesexy

The Symbol Album (I just hate it)

For You gets too much love.

Lovesexy.

Controversy

ATWIAD

Lovesexy

wasnt the gold experience very well recieved by critics? you add that with shitty marketing and its clear that the album was just terrible!

Lovesexy

20Ten is to me by far prince's worst regular album but it seems a lot of people on here like it over (imo) good recent albums like 3121 and lotusflow3r, it really has me going

A lot of people say Lovesexy is overrated, but I don't know by who. Everyone on here seems to hate on Lovesexy; it's posted everytime a thread for 'least favorite album' comes up.

If anything I think its underrated around these parts

For You (while Prince '79 is chronically underrated).

Come (The Gold Experience deserved to be at no.1 much more than this)

TRC (can't do that bigoted narration)

Musicology (not as good as the hype)

3121 (Planet Earth was much much better IMO)

20TEN (while Lotuflow3r and MPLSound were very underrated)

[Edited 11/27/11 12:30pm]

errant said:

Controversy

ATWIAD

Lovesexy

i don't think Controversy is overrated. The album has some strong followers here, sure, but they're the minority. The vast majority here accepts that Controversy is a good bridge between Prince/DirtyMind and 1999 with some great ideas but also some turds...I mean, many people here hate RonnieTalktoRussia and Anne Christian, and many others think that JackUOff is B-Side material, and let's not forget that the short version of Let'sWork is an abomination...the production of Sexuality isn't spectacular either...

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TBH anything from the 80s with the exception of Purple Rain and Sign O The Times. The rest of them were not perfect, they had bright spots, but some really, really weak spots too. Moreso than his ablums in the 2000s!

Around the World in a Day and Parade take top spots, they are exceptionally weak ablums, downright dreadful in most spots....minus 1 big hit each with Raspberry Beret and Kiss. 1999 is only halfway good, the other half pretty much sucks. Lovesexy is bout awful too when you compare it to his more recent albums.

I will also add that I think TRC and Lotus are completely overrated as well, I barely listen to album completely b/c well, they aren't really that good. Give me Musicology, Planet Earth, or 20Ten anyday!

[Edited 11/27/11 13:45pm]

Batman. While it has some great songs as a whole it's terrible and a soundtrack to this film even worse.

[Edited 11/27/11 13:42pm]

For me, I find the following overrated:

Dirty Mind
Parade

The Black Album

V10LETBLUES said:

The Gold Experience

The Rainbow Children

Both of these are over the top overrated by some in the Prince community. Both of these were complete failures in sales, and if given a chance to listen to them, the general public rate as low and as bad as they should. This is one case where sales and quality and public perception really match perfectly. No amount of marketing can make people other than the most obsessed amongst us declare these "good" or the "best" of even pretend to like it.

You really do need to brainwash yourself to like these. TRC is a prime example. We have comically seen people here over and over subject themselves to the torture of it in yet another failed attempt to see how or why pupledidgdong123 thinks it's so great

By far these are the two most overrated Prince Albums.

V10LETBLUES said:

JoeTyler said:

I can understand if some fans dismiss TGE due to the excessive production, but this statement

is the BIGGEST bullshit i've read here...sorry

with a real/proper promotion/distribution by both Warner and Prince, TGE could have been a multiplatinum, I'm talking about 2 million in the US and 5-6 worldwide...easily...

It's a little more than just your opinion, it's called being an Evangelist. Nothing wrong with preaching about something you believe in, facts just do not support that though.

That particular album received far better promotion and had far better name recognition than most of the music at the top of the charts that particular year. Whatever you may think of public opinion, the fact is that it got more than it's fair shake ad people thumbed their nose at it. And with good reason.

The backdrop to this situation is the feud going on between P and WB. Which meant less promotion. Why did they move Prince promotions to the R&B dept of WB-which meant they would spend considerably less on promotions (Fact). With the hit TMBGITW single that album (TGE) could have easily sold 2 million USA, that being said to me it's overrated on this site.