^ Militant, you are a delusional fanatic /emo / wanabee pop star, the fact you have to boast about it proves this, as people with real talent are secure in it and don't need to keep telling other people how amazing they are. Do you think Prince behaved like this when he was starting out? NO. He channelled it all into his music, which speaks for itself.
I have seen no evidence of your claims therefore I dismiss them and I think you should stop boasting as you've already made enemies with others on this site, (with actual Prince experts no less, who have a good bullshit detector), and I don't think you want to make any more now would you?
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TheFreakerFantastic said: ^ Militant, you are a delusional fanatic /emo / wanabee pop star, the fact you have to boast about it proves this, as people with real talent are secure in it and don't need to keep telling other people how amazing they are. Do you think Prince behaved like this when he was starting out? NO. He channelled it all into his music, which speaks for itself.
I have seen no evidence of your claims therefore I dismiss them and I think you should stop boasting as you've already made enemies with others on this site, (with actual Prince experts no less, who have a good bullshit detector), and I don't think you want to make any more now would you?
[Edited 12/8/11 8:10am] I think if the internet was around back when Prince was starting out he would have been on some Larry Graham fan community acting like Militant. ...bing ain't lie. | |
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I don't know about deliberately or inadvertently but I think Prince is far from the only one to have done that. You got fan cults with any artist... | |
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Cults are dangerous. I won't accuse any artist of doing this but I do know w/ the internet, an artist could go to the extent of cultivating fans by having their cult followers go on social networking sites to promote them, and when needed, represent the artist as either an associate (fam) or relative so more fans get excited about them. They can have their fanatics promote the artist on their own social networking pages, and other sites such as fan community sites and gossip blogs. The end results can be very profitable for an artist who cultivates (cults) fanatics. Could this be one of the reasons people actually become aggressive to the point of arguing over the personal lives of a celebrity? On this site I've seen some orgers get bitchy and extremely defensive if another orger says something against Prince. If Prince is cultivating fanatics this could be one reason why some people seem to be too invested in his personal life.
The internet hasn't been around long enough so the topic of artists cultivating fanatics in this internet age hasn't been explored but it's not hard to see how artists can gain more fans and benefit from all the free promotion. I doubt many people are even aware this has been a problem for some people on the internet who have joined online fan communities and social networking sites.
Over the last few years the term "Team..." this and "Team..." that has been used by fans of other popular artist. I'm not familiar w/ any of these teams but I hope the artists or the Yes men and women authorized to speak for them are not telling their minions to sign on as new members of online fan communities and create profiles on social networking sites and praise almost everything the artist does, insult those who don't think like the team, promote every new project, and deceive fans (if needed) into believing the artist has taken a special interest in them so the person this person is likely to help build the team (cult), and help the artist sell more of whatever they're trying to sell. The artists don't even have to pay to get all of this free promotion I remind you. I don't know if many artists are doing this but I do know Prince seems to have a team of fanatics coming on social networking sites and online fan communities doing many of those things I just mentioned. It's been going on for many years and his people have been notified about it. Gone are the days of sending autographed pictures or post card to the fans via snell mail. If some artists are deliberately cultivating fanatics for their "Teams" it's wrong. They shouldn't take advantage of the people who support them. I think Prince has released songs, certain prints, cd covers, and used his song lyrics, fanatics, and up and coming artists to get ideas and free promotion.
I know there are cults with any artist Timmy84 and Prince doesn't seem to have a problem w/ cults so I should have titled this thread: Is Prince the ringleader of an Internet cult? It sounds more dramatic. I bet many orgers don't even know what the hell I'm asking in this thread bcuz no cultivated fanatic ever tried to recruit them in the First Round draft pick but I'm sure they have Second Round picks.
We were taken aback when the woman recently posted she was engaged to Prince on Andy's FB page. We were paying attention to this Prince fan long enough to know that if what she posted is not true and Prince is not engaging in cultivating fanatics, then him and his Yes men/Yes women need to go after the fanatic or fanatics who caused Love Poetess to believe she was engaged to Prince. They need to go after these people more than the web sheriffs who go after people posting videos on youtube, especially when Prince is only going to allow Andy Allo and Drfunkenberry to upload his videos anyway. It makes no sense to me but I'm sure Prince has a good reason for not wanting a website, an official twitter or FB account. Then again, Love Poetess could be some crazy ass schizo using the internet to promote herself and her poetry she's selling. She also seems to be connected to another Prince fanatic who is constantly promoting his businesses on FB. It could be a win-win-win situation for the artist and the fans. Just like Militant said about "J" and Prince's relationship, "More exclusive news = more hits = more clicks on ads = more ad revenue.". Sounds like someone's motto to me.
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Love Poetess = Cat Clover??
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^ This is not Poetess. Try again. ...bing ain't lie. | |
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"The ego's landing on claims 2 fame..." | |
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I don't think Prince would deliberately solicit strangeness from fans, especially ones who aren't in control of their senses. I think he just brings out the Freak in lots of people
Prince seems like a very curious person and might just like to see different reactions to his actions/music from the people around him. But 'deliberately cultivate fanatics' ...No. | |
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colorblu said:
I don't think Prince would deliberately solicit strangeness from fans, especially ones who aren't in control of their senses. I think he just brings out the Freak in lots of people
Prince seems like a very curious person and might just like to see different reactions to his actions/music from the people around him. But 'deliberately cultivate fanatics' ...No. I agree w/ you that he brings out the Freak in lots of people. If he is very curious as you mention, so are many of his fanatics. One in particular needs to know how I don't give a d@@@ about them so they don't need to send me bits of their life story in an orgnote. The Hardcore, crazy-ass fanatics on this site can act more juvenile than their idol. Thanks for contributing your thoughts on this topic colorblu. ...bing ain't lie. | |
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I'm in the odd part of the Org again... | |
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I found the article. http://blogs.wsj.com/spea...th-prince/
"A representative for Prince did not respond to request for comment."
I would side w/ Scott Addison Clay.
Prince's basement was lined w/ thick white fur. I don't know how you deal w/ someone who lines a room w/ thick white fur. It's not like the fur does anything so great for his recording sessions. [Edited 12/17/11 17:08pm] ...bing ain't lie. | |
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Here you go, have a nice glass of Haterade:
You can use it to wash down your Hater Tots.
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Ain't it always odd with some exceptions here? | |
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1) Prince is a human being like all other human beings
2) I think that popular culture has traditionally created celebrities for the purpose of making money and a vain sense of culture - because really, how much aesthetisism is there in a lot of what mainstream media is feeding the people.
I think people's fanatism about Prince says a lot more about them, than it does about him. There are people who's identities in one way or another are related to Prince...this must be a heavy reality for Prince to bear.
I mean, this site is a perfect example of people gathering, whether for love or hate, around the very being of -
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I agree w/ you that popular culture, really the corporations and media giant create celebrities for the purpose of making money. "Culture is not your friend" (Terence McKenna).
Again, I think Prince CULTtivates his fans for the main purpose of making money and for his ego. I think he knows he's untouchable when he's on the internet and he remains mysterious bcuz it's convenient. Anyone who loves to surprise people as much as he does is obviously a deceitful type of person. If some people's identies are related to Prince you will have nuts going around on the internet deceiving his fans in his name. It's a reality they do live vicariously through him but I doubt it's a "heavy reality" for Prince to bear as you say. From what I've seen, I think he encourages it and so do many of his fans and this is probably one reason many of them don't have much to say on this topic but they're reading this thread. Prince probably has a love/hate feeling for this site so if he does have fanatics here acting like they represent him he's probably saying "Good for my stupid fans on that artichoke prince.org!" (but he probably says "fuckin" in his mind bcuz I've heard a cuss word or two slip out since he's been a JW). I think he's the biggest hustler.
The fanatics enjoy living in their fantasy world and this is probably why many are quiet as church mice. No comments. When I post something that makes sense and makes them uncomfortable for whatever reason, a few want to send me orgnotes. Somebody actually used another profile to send me a message bcuz I refused to open their orgnotes under their original username. This fan is currently addressing me in their signature. I never said a word to them. It only shows me how important I must be in their life. If only people could see some of the orgnotes I've received from certain fanatics trying to defend Prince (and Mayte. LOL) I'm not here to argue w/ Prince's crazy fans. You would think I said something personally offensive to them so yes, as you say, people's fanaticism says a lot about them. They have issues and obviously need attention. I'm pretty sure if someone contacted them in an orgnote acting like they are affiliated w/ Prince or if they told them they are one of his relatives, or they know someone who works w/ Prince, they could easily be deceived bcuz Prince is such a mystery man. He even says in a few of his songs that he "checks his email to see where the party be, change the names to protect the guilty, and get ready to creep". I think he's somewhere right now "laying in the cut" reading threads on the org.
I said it before and I'll say it again: his manager Kiran Sharma, Shelby Johnson, Elise Dease Fiorillo, Tyka Nelson, her husband Reese who said he doesn't want to get the guy in trouble for being on the internet speaking for Prince, and a few others associated w/ Prince were notified some time ago. The girl Poetess who was on this site, and probably still on this site, made all types of crazy statements about Bria. I'm beginning to think "it is true" since Prince let this same girl "Poetess" get on stage and dance behind him on August 5, 2011. Many of us know how long this particular fanatic has been on the org bashing Bria Valente. The Andy threads prove many fans are too concerned about his personal life and Prince knows they are. Then, the girl Poetess announces she was engaged to Prince.
Thank you Praxis for breaking it down for some fans how Prince is a human being but, did Prince cultivate fanatics is the main question. Most of us in our right mind already know Prince is human. Not a very nice human in my opinion. We all have issues but if he's been using some of his new (and old) fanatics this way to help him sell more cds, gain more fans, and give him free promotion I think it's disgraceful. This thread can also be looked at as an F.Y.I./Public Service Announcement for those who weren't aware of some of his fanatic's behavior on the internet. I also shared my opinions in the process and some tried to persecute me. Why? Especially if they really think I don't know what the hell I'm talking about.
I asked the questions on my thread not needing anyone to co-sign. I simply wanted to make innocent fans aware. I don't know what's up w/ some of his "hardcore" fans but I do know Kiran Sharma (I asked her to make Prince aware of these people claiming to represent him), Shelby Johnson, and several others who work w/ Prince were made aware of everything that's been going on for the last couple of years. They did nothing. If they really care about their fans and don't just want fan's money they'll let his fans know Prince is not on the internet communicating w/ his fans on the org or any other site, but maybe he is and this is why I didn't get a reply from those closest to Prince. I don't know what the latest photo w/ Andy is supposed to suggest but I will say I think it's corny and he knows how to reach me if he really has something to say.
Shout out to Tamar Davis! Her parents raised her up right.
Peace. I'm out.
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^ Not interesed in your link but Reply #102 on the following link is interesting. Would you explain how you knew the mystery girl 9037355 is from Denmark? You also posted you "hope at least Prince is picking 'em right and these young girls are AT LEAST 25 and older because they obviously don't have the sense to stay away from the internet ever since Bria Valente started the trend of getting online to tell everyone she dated Prince." http://prince.org/msg/5/3...?&pg=4
Why do you think Bria would feel the need to get online to tell everyone she dated Prince when she was seen out w/ Prince and mentioned in Prince interviews? Only a looney fan would get online telling people they dated Prince or they were engaged to him.
Do you know about the looney fan trying to live vicariously through Prince while promoting fly by night get rich schemes on the internet?
How can you state w/ certainty Bria was online telling everyone she dated Prince? Do you know Bria or you just think you know her, Poetess, and Prince?
Formallypickles called Love Poetess and Moneymade "org predators" in Reply #87? http://prince.org/msg/7/3...8&pg=3 She said the guy Moneymade and Poetess were "CRAZY AS HELL". You claimed to know Poetess was from Denmark so do you know Moneymade's crazy ass too? Do you know Terrence? QuasarOfRock? DennisMark? I bet you know these fanatics well and I think you know a lot about the"org predators" formallypickles mentioned. Care to share instead of posting meaningless links?
Is Prince "picking 'em right" or is it you who ain't picking 'em right?
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interesting thread! | |
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Let's hope GoldenParachute comes back and answers my questions so this thread will get even more interesting.
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Here is what I think: You're fucking weird.
You sent me even stranger orgnotes. I think you need to fill your prescription and stop hallucinating because you sound crazy as fuck.
No idea what you are even talking about or where you intend to go with it.
Good luck
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Oh yes.... I didnt even read most of what you wrote because its fucking disturbing and obsessive but if I remember correctly, I wrote that person was from Denmark because they SAID they were in another thread. You are reading into this WAAAAY too much and its even confusing me. I have no answers for anything else because I think you are mentally unstable person who does not need to be antagonized.
Youre very scary.
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This thread is only getting weirder, and weirder....
That's all I have to say.
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I didn't send you any strange orgnotes. I called you a nut in another thread and I told you in an orgnote to not take it offensively. You said you weren't offended. If you don't want to answer my questions you don't have to but don't lie and try to insult me. Maybe you need to go fill your prescription bcuz it looks like something I said has plucked your nerve. You don't think calling me "'little lady", telling me you're my conscience, and concerning yourself w/ how much sleep I'm getting is weird? Don't send me anymore orgnotes. Get out of this thread and don't come back if all you have in your replies are lies. You don't know me to call me "little lady". You don't know if I'm male or female. I think you act like a fanatic. By your reaction you do have an idea of what I'm talking about. Guess you're not going to answer how you know Bria was on the internet telling people she was dating Prince? I'm only "very scary" to fans like you. You trying to turn this thing around ain't gonna work.
[Edit] Sorry the links I'm providing don't go to the correct threads I'm referring to. For someone who posted Reply #205 and #249 on this thread back July http://prince.org/msg/5/3...?&pg=9 I'm surprised you don't agree w/ my thread topic since you stated back in July that YOU thought "Prince hired people to come here and post about his girlfriends". Your Reply #261 is interesting. You also claimed you "picked up on Andy being a lesbian". Why do you make claims about people you don't know? First Bria and then you tell people it's a fact Andy is a lesbian in your Reply #232 but you come in here calling me "fucking weird". I wonder how he knows for a "a fact" Andy is a lesbian? Andy covers a few songs and he's calling her a lesbian. Funny how you GoldenParachute were on the Wow = Prince + Andy thread telling people they need medication and doing the same shit on that thread as you're trying to do on this one. I bet you know DennisMark.
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COMPLETELY AGREED!! | |
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You should completely agree bcuz you're here. It's best if you leave before you dig yourself deeper. ...bing ain't lie. | |
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