ian said:

yeah, but the thing that's different in the lyrix now as opposed 2 the stuff back in '83 or what-not is that the stuff now is sorta...stifling. sorta like it's bein forced upon us...and yes, i know i can always turn the shit off if i don't wish 2 listen, so don't go there with me, ya'll.


i gotta built-in filter 2, but i think i need an upgrade...ian, u know how i can upgrade my filter?

If he released a CD with him farting the national anthem and singing nursery rhymes in the bath I would buy it.

I'm not too bothered by the lyrics, if it's a good tune with good music then it's ok with me. And I have never know Prince release anything that I would describe as crap. Sometimes its dissapointing compared to his great stuff, but it's usually better than anything else around.

I'm not put of by JW stuff, i'm not scared of being brainwashed or anything like that. I'm a buddhist and I know i'm right if nobody else does.

ian said:

You can't tune that shit out when you're sitting there in concert or listening to it at home on ONAL.

>I've got an in-built filter in my brain that filters all the bullshit out of Prince's lyrics but still allows me to dig his music. It works very well, give it a try <

Exactly. That's the way I look at music. And maybe that's just the way I am, I was attracted to music before I was attracted to a book... Anyway, if I can listen to a Marilyn Manson song or Eminem song it's because I dig the music, not because I'm forced to succomb to the lyrical content. I don't see why music that has a religious tone to it should be any different.

>You can't tune that shit out when you're sitting there in concert or listening to it at home on ONAL.<

Sure you can. You go to a concert for the music, not to hear the artist make "speeches", right? Besides, why should anybody be offended by someone's religious point of view or their right to express it anyway?

Handclapsfingasnapz said:

Well my friend, it sounds your old-model Princebull filter (probably purchased in the mid 80s) is in need of an upgrade coz it probably isn't fully JW compliant. Take a spell in our Politics & Religion forum for a few days, you'll soon get that problem solved

If I had to give up dogma in music that I didn't agree with I'd own about nine Cd's with lyrics about absolutely nothing (AKA "The best of J.Lo"). That or all instrumentals. Definitely wouldn't own any hip-hop.

Frankly, IMO, people don't seem to mind having sex and violence forced down their throats (poor choice of words, I know). But man if somebody strongly expresses their religious beliefs, watch the f*ck out!

yeah, I'd but it, at least the music would be good...that's some thing you can always count on when it comes to Prince.

if it is as good as trc yes i would bye it .with or without the jw crap.

ian said:

7is4me says: thanks 4 the info, i'll try that

This is one thread that has bothered me the most.

To think this is the biggest prince supporting web site in which people should be backing him up, it seems that its getting more rebellious against prince.

If you are so annoyed by prince's new take on life, don't post here.

He is only growing as a person, maybe some of you should.

JW Crap! Have you sat down and studied it before judging it. I'm not a JW, but know enough not to judge things before studying them. Prince knows this as well and has taken action towards doing it.

Jem said:

Hold up there for a sec. I think it is reasonable for people to be sick of being preached at in concerts and on CD. And I think it is reasonable to criticise Prince's work here - this is a Prince fansite after all.

Please do not attempt to stifle discussion just because you disagree with it.

If you want only positive things said about Prince, check out Princefams.com - a very fine website with a more "fam-like" stance. Prince.org is for discussion, good and bad

I will personally bind, gag and shove Larry G's Bass Guitar up his ass.. if that happens.

He should get Steve Malkmus to write his lyrics.

I'll buy everything he releases. It's just like that.

rdhull said:

Yeah I'm like that too. Fuck it, I've been digging his music for too long now, and I've rarely been disappointed. I trust the lil guy to deliver the funk each time.

ian said:

I may have some dissappointments and have at times but its a sure bet I will buy each release regardless.

I didn't like TRC, period. When Prince starts singing about women being in subjection to their men, not to mention the demanding and condescending undertone of She Loves Me 4 Me, as well as the all too hypocritical Family Name (thats not Prince in a pin stripe suit taking his fans to the cleaners is it? nooo...), he could have summed it all up in one song called "Hi, Im An Asshole".

If this theme carries over into his next album, of course I will not buy it. Prince can sing about whatever the hell he wants, but likewise I can support whatever artists I choose.

There are plenty of well educated, mature people, who have bought TRC, discussed it on here for almost a year and a half now, and still do not like it. The fact that someone disagrees with this album or thinks its a load of crap does not mean they have bad taste in music, it does not mean they are stupid, and it does not mean they are immature. It means they don't like it. Period. End of Story.
[This message was edited Wed Feb 19 17:26:04 PST 2003 by Tom]

'if p's next album is a bunch of JW crap will u buy it ?'

I don't care if Prince ate peanuts and blew farts on an album I'm getting it, so YES!...:OMG:

Are you referring that if it sounds like TRC??? I love the ARTIST'S music, and wouldn't mind. Prince is ever changing, and he's always going to surprise us with something new...
[This message was edited Wed Feb 19 17:46:05 PST 2003 by Starmist7]

Tom said:

So you wont even download it, have it burned either than right. you wont listen or hear any of it right?

... there was a mis-quote here.
[This message was edited Wed Feb 19 17:57:19 PST 2003 by Jem]

sorry Handsclap and ian, i quoted the wrong thing.
I meant:

Ian said:
Hold up there for a sec. I think it is reasonable for people to be sick of being preached at in concerts and on CD. And I think it is reasonable to criticise Prince's work here - this is a Prince fansite after all.

Please do not attempt to stifle discussion just because you disagree with it.

If you want only positive things said about Prince, check out Princefams.com - a very fine website with a more "fam-like" stance. Prince.org is for discussion, good and bad

***

I understand your point, but when it goes as far as being comments against peoples faith...
Sometimes its all that people have.
And I'm sorry for being such a dick.

rdhull said:

I'd listen to it out of curiousity, but I would not buy it. Just like I did not buy TRC on CD after I got it through NPGMC year1

rdhull said:

I personally will not download it, nor burn it, nor listen to it. I will come here to prince.org and read about the new album and if fellow orgers say that it contains JW overtures or overtones, I will not ever listen to it.

jtgillia said:

jt, I do not appreciate an artist giving a concert performance under the guise of expressing his religious views.

ian said:

I'm gonna take you to task:

1) Prince religion of the past was vague: Spooky Electric?? That's Sci-Fi! In the end it was about "Positivity" and "Lovesexy" which were ambigous, but just about good vibes. TRC, music aside, contains deliberate, explicit lyrics between what is right and wrong behavoir, the hierarchy and servitude of woman to man, man to god, about "banishment" (read:rejection) of those who go by the beat of a different drummer, so-to-speak.

It's easier to digest "the feeling you get not when you fall in love with a girl or boy, but the heavens above", than:

"Don't you know dead blood kills interferons?!?!" or "I'M TALKIN ABOUT THEOCRATIC ORDER ARE YOU WITH ME!?!?!?"

That's SPECIFIC : it isn't just "mumbo jumbo" as you say!


You shouldn't HAVE to do "internal filtering" of Prince's music--that's nice that you're "willing to do the Work", but that is only so acceptable, and make no mistake: PRINCE is walking a VERY fine line here, if this new album is as religious as the title suggests...he is putting his career in serious jeopardy. Make no mistake: he WILL lose a significant ammount of his fan-base that has been way too patient with his overall foolishness.

I can get FUNKY MUSIC ELSEWHERE. There are a LOT of amazing "forgotten" funk records from the 70's in used record stores. They GROOVE. They are EROTIC and SEXY. They are FUN.

If we get a hard-core cd about blood-tranfusion no-no lyrics and the like, well, I can just wait for vault releases like "Roadhouse Garden". Screwthe preaching. It isn't cool.

Cheers!

Universaluv said:

I have no problem with someone strongly expressing their religious beliefs, once, twice, three times but it gets to the point where I feel like its being forced on me and I will not accept it.

I respect the fact that Prince fans fall in and out of love with his music. It is natural for any person to not like something, even if it is by their all time favortie artist. As I sit here and read about how people are fed up with the RBC, and how they want the old Prince back, or the JW has put them at their wits end, I beleve it is perfectley fine to disagree with Prince's new style, and even discuss it publically; but for some few to bash him on his fan based web-site is disturbing. Sure, RBC is a different path for Prince to take, but what artist hasn't revived or revised their creative and musical ways? A die hard Prince fan can have their likes and dislikes, and one of them can be RBC. The wonderful thing about Prince is his ability to make every album have a different flavor, and still have people say that is his style, instead of saying what the hell? For some people to be disturbed by the religious content, and call it crap, and unlistenable, can also be applied to his music that is sexually explicit; some Prince fans could post a thread talking constantly about their disagreement with his heavy emphasis on sex, but do you ever see thoose? No; that is what his fans want him to go back to. I think a true fan could sit back and anticipate his next album, because who knows what it could be like? Prince always manages to pull something new out of his bag of tricks. So take the time and enjoy the Prince music you have, and like listening to. But to jump the gun and start a disscusion about his unreleased album, is getting way ahead of yourself. Oh and to answer the actual question, yes I would buy it; I want to keep my Prince music library full of different flavors!

i'm not religious,but *1 + 1 + 1 = 3*,*Everlasting Now*, *TheRainbowChildren*...always get me funky,movin,singin'...
tho sometimes it can be a bit over the top,TRC is brilliant music.
that cannot be denied.