kangafunk said:

lust said:

The lyrics made a bit more sense.

Upload, the genesis principle

You see a rock on the shore and say

"It's not long been there"

Download, no responsibility.

Kill who you want, repent, so god won't care.

[Edited 10/19/11 16:54pm]

oh yeeeaaaahhhh. I can bounce to that

I've always liked that verse (about the rock on the shore always being there), not because it opens up a debate about evolution vs creation or religion vs science, but because, to me, the verse made me think and open up "my" version of "reality".

Kinda like when I first got to the .org 11+ years ago and I'd go into chat and say, "Good evening everyone!" There would automatically be this backlash..."Damn Americans! Thinks the world revolves around them! Just because it's evening there they think it's evening everywhere." I hadn't really thought of it that way.

The rocks on the shore are there now, but now is just a blink in time (or is it? ). I've always taken that verse to mean, "Don't be so "me"-centric". Keep your mind open not just to things as you see them. Science and religion have their theories of why the world is the way it is. They are good to read, know and understand, but never be afraid to keep your mind open to the fact that those rocks may be on that shore for absolutely mind blowing, or completely simple reasons we don't know now and may never know.

Don't believe anything, just because it's been fed to you.

Agreed, I've never seen it as such.

imago said:

lust said:

The lyrics made a bit more sense.

Upload, the genesis principle

You see a rock on the shore and say

"It's not long been there"

Download, no responsibility.

Kill who you want, repent, so god won't care.

[Edited 10/19/11 16:54pm]

oh yeeeaaaahhhh. I can bounce to that

^^ HAHAHA. This couldn't be more appropriate.

lust said:

The lyrics made a bit more sense.

Upload, the genesis principle

You see a rock on the shore and say

"It's not long been there"

Download, no responsibility.

Kill who you want, repent, so god won't care.

[Edited 10/19/11 16:54pm]

I like it. You're right. It certainly makes more sense.

Love the song...no complaints.

And to the guy who keeps posting "Quit It", stop spamming the same goddamn video.

You're not proving shit.

This topic has nothing to do with your false analyzations.

Stop it.

Thank you.

rdhull said:

lwr001 said:

write your own song nitwit

damn

Harsher than you, even!

purpledoveuk said:

...but it's still nothing to do with evolution, he might as well have said "upload the baking principle" for all the relevance it has. [Edited 10/20/11 10:02am]

You're looking at this too linearly. It's a song, not a thesis, the lyrics don't have to stand up to peer review. But here, I'll tell you my spin on it.

Upload the evolution principle

Note that he says "principle", rather than "theory," so he's going at an underlying foundation for evolution, rather than the theory itself. I assume he's talking about the underlying principle that God is not the "creator" of all things.

You see a rock on the shore and say

it's always been there.

What does a rock on the shore have to do with evolution? Nothing really. What does a rock on the shore have to do with the principle that God had nothing to do with putting it there (aka the "evolution principle?") Well, that's kind of his point. Once you accept one seemingly innocuous principle, it can lead you to a place you may not want to go.

Personally, I'm gonna leave that debate alone. However, agree with him or not, there is a logic there if you remember that it's a song. It's not supposed to be a course in linear logic.

[Edited 10/20/11 14:33pm]

purpledoveuk said:

...but it's still nothing to do with evolution, he might as well have said "upload the baking principle" for all the relevance it has. [Edited 10/20/11 10:02am]

It's obvious really. The neanderthal put the rock on the shore so his homo sapien ancestors could wonder how it got there.

purpledoveuk said:

Also the 2 party line...could have sworn he had a hard-on for Obama not so long ago...surely Prince wouldn't be so shallow as to back Obama just on his skin colour without really knowing what he stood for....would he. [Edited 10/20/11 7:19am]

As far as the President goes, all I recall Prince saying about him is:

Well, the reason why is because I'm one of Jehovah's Witnesses and we've never voted. That's not to say that I don't think Barack Obama - President Obama - is a very smart individual and he seems like he means well. Prophecy is what we all have to go by now.

Not exactly a glowing endorsement/hard-on. Perhaps you're making assumptions about Prince's political beliefs based on his skin color?

[Edited 10/20/11 14:58pm]

WTH is with some of the hostile responses on the first page? It's like how dare he criticize Prince...

smoothcriminal12 said:

WTH is with some of the hostile responses on the first page? It's like how dare he criticize Prince...

This is prince.org, people criticize Prince for sport.

I think it's more about the idea of re-writing lyrics. It's lame when Prince does it, and it's even lamer when orgers do it.

ElCapitan said:

smoothcriminal12 said:

WTH is with some of the hostile responses on the first page? It's like how dare he criticize Prince...

This is prince.org, people criticize Prince for sport.

I think it's more about the idea of re-writing lyrics. It's lame when Prince does it, and it's even lamer when orgers do it.

I know but to be so hostile? I mean damn. The fams are worse than the haters.

smoothcriminal12 said:

ElCapitan said:

This is prince.org, people criticize Prince for sport.

I think it's more about the idea of re-writing lyrics. It's lame when Prince does it, and it's even lamer when orgers do it.

I know but to be so hostile? I mean damn. The fams are worse than the haters.

Oh. so someone got called a "nitwit." I've been called much worse around here for much less of a reason.

(Full disclosure, I did chuckle at that. I mean who calls someone a "nitwit" anymore?)

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[Edited 10/20/11 15:10pm]

ElCapitan said:

smoothcriminal12 said:

I know but to be so hostile? I mean damn. The fams are worse than the haters.

Oh. so someone got called a "nitwit." I've been called much worse around here for much less of a reason.

(Full disclosure, I did chuckle at that. I mean who calls someone a "nitwit" anymore?)

.

[Edited 10/20/11 15:10pm]

True.

smoothcriminal12 said:

WTH is with some of the hostile responses on the first page? It's like how dare he criticize Prince...

It's one thing to criticize Prince. It's quite another to think you're a better lyricist - and then give abject proof that you absolutely, positively are not.

The former is fine. The latter is batshit crazy. Especially in this joint.

ElCapitan said:

smoothcriminal12 said:

I know but to be so hostile? I mean damn. The fams are worse than the haters.

Oh. so someone got called a "nitwit." I've been called much worse around here for much less of a reason.

(Full disclosure, I did chuckle at that. I mean who calls someone a "nitwit" anymore?)

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[Edited 10/20/11 15:10pm]

For the record, I wasn't offended. I thought it was quite cute actually.

Genesia said:

smoothcriminal12 said:

WTH is with some of the hostile responses on the first page? It's like how dare he criticize Prince...

It's one thing to criticize Prince. It's quite another to think you're a better lyricist - and then give abject proof that you absolutely, positively are not.

The former is fine. The latter is batshit crazy. Especially in this joint.

I definately do not think I am a better lyricist than Prince or even close, or even a lyricist at all. I was just questioning one paragraph in one song so lighten up but how praytell did I achieve your claim that I have in bold?

ElCapitan said:

I don't think Colonized Mind needs a lyric change at all. The song makes perfect sense. Now whether or not one agrees with Prince's outlook on society is another issue entirely. But let's not act like he is saying something totally inconcievable. SMH at The Org...

ElCapitan said:

What does a rock on the shore have to do with evolution? Nothing really. What does a rock on the shore have to do with the principle that God had nothing to do with putting it there (aka the "evolution principle?") Well, that's kind of his point. Once you accept one seemingly innocuous principle, it can lead you to a place you may not want to go.

Ahh, thank you for explaining that Finally that line makes sense.

smoothcriminal12 said:

Chiquetet said:

^^Totally get what you're saying and I agree completely. I don't understand why both concepts can't exist in the same space - never have.

What I meant was, now I understand what Prince was trying to say - agree or disagree, at least it makes sense relative to his (current) standpoint. Before I read ElCapitan's post, I was as mystified as some others on this thread as to what a rock on the shore had to do with evolution.

And yes, every chance the strawberry snail-riders put the rock there...

...but then, who created the strawberry snail-riders and the delectable chocolate planet they inhabit?

Chiquetet said:

purpledoveuk said:

Chiquetet said:

...but then, who created the strawberry snail-riders and the delectable chocolate planet they inhabit?

Prince? Perhaps that's what Colonised Mind is; a confession

Well, that goes some way towards explaining lotusflow3r.com...