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Reply #30 posted 10/20/11 12:32pm

Graycap23

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Wendy by a mile - go dig out your Parade live bootlegs and prove me wrong. She is amazing.

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Reply #31 posted 10/20/11 1:10pm

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Miko all the way.

The only one that could come close to Prince's pocket.

"He's a musician's musician..."
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Reply #32 posted 10/20/11 1:22pm

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Wendy by a mile - go dig out your Parade live bootlegs and prove me wrong. She is amazing.

Yeah, and that would be Miko that you were hearing, not Wendy. Miko was by far the best co-guitarist Prince ever had. Super versitile.

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Reply #33 posted 10/20/11 4:16pm

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joyinrepetition said:

funkyhead said:

Wendy by a mile - go dig out your Parade live bootlegs and prove me wrong. She is amazing.

Yeah, and that would be Miko that you were hearing, not Wendy. Miko was by far the best co-guitarist Prince ever had. Super versitile.

naw the best co-guitarist would be Dez, Dez was the only one that pushed Prince's playing skills

But Dez & Wendy are the only 2 the brought a style that developed Prince's own.

I love Mico, but even he said he just played what Prince did.

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Reply #34 posted 10/20/11 4:27pm

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Levi and uncle Dez for me..... razz

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Reply #35 posted 10/20/11 4:31pm

Spinlight

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OldFriends4Sale said:

joyinrepetition said:

Yeah, and that would be Miko that you were hearing, not Wendy. Miko was by far the best co-guitarist Prince ever had. Super versitile.

naw the best co-guitarist would be Dez, Dez was the only one that pushed Prince's playing skills

But Dez & Wendy are the only 2 the brought a style that developed Prince's own.

I love Mico, but even he said he just played what Prince did.

I think there is an argument to be made that Miko's pocket-style playing made -the- best pairing with Prince's playstyle because he never competed directly with Prince and was always there playing something that Prince would've played if Prince was the one in the pocket.

Miko sounds most -like- Prince and I think Prince is a much funkier guitar player than Wendy (who is very funky but still shows her white girl roots and kicks into over-melodic or power-chordiness at times).

People thought "Alexa De Paris" could've been done by Wendy in the studio. Miko would never, ever have been mistaken for the player on "Alexa"... He's funkier than that.

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Reply #36 posted 10/20/11 6:43pm

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Spinlight said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

naw the best co-guitarist would be Dez, Dez was the only one that pushed Prince's playing skills

But Dez & Wendy are the only 2 the brought a style that developed Prince's own.

I love Mico, but even he said he just played what Prince did.

I think there is an argument to be made that Miko's pocket-style playing made -the- best pairing with Prince's playstyle because he never competed directly with Prince and was always there playing something that Prince would've played if Prince was the one in the pocket.

Miko sounds most -like- Prince and I think Prince is a much funkier guitar player than Wendy (who is very funky but still shows her white girl roots and kicks into over-melodic or power-chordiness at times).

People thought "Alexa De Paris" could've been done by Wendy in the studio. Miko would never, ever have been mistaken for the player on "Alexa"... He's funkier than that.

That 86 pre Parade show at First Ave showed that Wendy definitely DID NOT play Alexa De Paris! She jacked it up all sorts of ways. That was all Prince. Wendy is much better now, but Miko was smooth and like Spinlight said, Miko was playing as if it were Prince himself.

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Reply #37 posted 10/20/11 7:02pm

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Wendy is aight but back in the day she was no Miko or Dez... lol

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Reply #38 posted 10/20/11 7:23pm

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Wendy is aight but back in the day she was no Miko or Dez... lol

exactly.

[Edited 10/20/11 19:25pm]

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Reply #39 posted 10/20/11 11:10pm

WonderU

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Timmy84 said:

Wendy is aight but back in the day she was no Miko or Dez... lol

Wendy is a far superior musician to BOTH Miko and Dez and that includes on guitar, bass and drums. How much are their services requested by fellow artists??? Miko and Dez combined couldn't touch Wendy's resume. The funk she laid down on Irresistible Bitch on the Purple Rain tour is 5 times funky. In fact Prince himself has called her back a few times to play with him, when is the last time Miko or Dez got that call?? wink

Prince may be the purple Yoda, but Wendy & Lisa and Eric Leeds also sit on the Jedi Council.
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Reply #40 posted 10/20/11 11:18pm

Timmy84

WonderU said:

Timmy84 said:

Wendy is aight but back in the day she was no Miko or Dez... lol

Wendy is a far superior musician to BOTH Miko and Dez and that includes on guitar, bass and drums. How much are their services requested by fellow artists??? Miko and Dez combined couldn't touch Wendy's resume. The funk she laid down on Irresistible Bitch on the Purple Rain tour is 5 times funky. In fact Prince himself has called her back a few times to play with him, when is the last time Miko or Dez got that call?? wink

Because Dez wanted to do his own thing and Miko and Prince got into fights the last time they toured. Plus Prince gets along better with women. biggrin

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Reply #41 posted 10/20/11 11:28pm

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Timmy84 said:

WonderU said:

Wendy is a far superior musician to BOTH Miko and Dez and that includes on guitar, bass and drums. How much are their services requested by fellow artists??? Miko and Dez combined couldn't touch Wendy's resume. The funk she laid down on Irresistible Bitch on the Purple Rain tour is 5 times funky. In fact Prince himself has called her back a few times to play with him, when is the last time Miko or Dez got that call?? wink

Because Dez wanted to do his own thing and Miko and Prince got into fights the last time they toured. Plus Prince gets along better with women. biggrin

Ok that's the reason why PRINCE didn't call them, what's the reason no one else has?? lol

Prince may be the purple Yoda, but Wendy & Lisa and Eric Leeds also sit on the Jedi Council.
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Reply #42 posted 10/20/11 11:39pm

Timmy84

WonderU said:

Timmy84 said:

Because Dez wanted to do his own thing and Miko and Prince got into fights the last time they toured. Plus Prince gets along better with women. biggrin

Ok that's the reason why PRINCE didn't call them, what's the reason no one else has?? lol

Because they ain't as busy as Wendy lmao you know that. lol

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Reply #43 posted 10/21/11 12:11am

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WonderU said:

Timmy84 said:

Because Dez wanted to do his own thing and Miko and Prince got into fights the last time they toured. Plus Prince gets along better with women. biggrin

Ok that's the reason why PRINCE didn't call them, what's the reason no one else has?? lol

If it weren't for their scoring career, W&L woulda been suing Prince for royalties by now.

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Reply #44 posted 10/21/11 12:14am

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Spinlight said:

WonderU said:

Ok that's the reason why PRINCE didn't call them, what's the reason no one else has?? lol

If it weren't for their scoring career, W&L woulda been suing Prince for royalties by now.

The scoring gig didn't start until the late 90's, like a decade after the Revolution and no lawsuits were filed wink

Prince may be the purple Yoda, but Wendy & Lisa and Eric Leeds also sit on the Jedi Council.
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Reply #45 posted 10/21/11 12:16am

Spinlight

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WonderU said:

Spinlight said:

If it weren't for their scoring career, W&L woulda been suing Prince for royalties by now.

The scoring gig didn't start until the late 90's, like a decade after the Revolution and no lawsuits were filed wink

It took Tony M and Levi a while to sue him too!

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Reply #46 posted 10/21/11 4:13am

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Spinlight said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

naw the best co-guitarist would be Dez, Dez was the only one that pushed Prince's playing skills

But Dez & Wendy are the only 2 the brought a style that developed Prince's own.

I love Mico, but even he said he just played what Prince did.

I think there is an argument to be made that Miko's pocket-style playing made -the- best pairing with Prince's playstyle because he never competed directly with Prince and was always there playing something that Prince would've played if Prince was the one in the pocket.

Miko sounds most -like- Prince and I think Prince is a much funkier guitar player than Wendy (who is very funky but still shows her white girl roots and kicks into over-melodic or power-chordiness at times).

People thought "Alexa De Paris" could've been done by Wendy in the studio. Miko would never, ever have been mistaken for the player on "Alexa"... He's funkier than that.

I agree totally about Mico's playing, he said similar in an interview

My response to the other person's "co-guitarist" still stands with me as Dez 1st Wendy 2nd

I'm wasn't focusing on the 'funkier' part.

Mico's playing during the SOtt-GB years can't touch Dez's amped up pushing during the 4U-1999 years. But Mico is my 3rd fav

Alot of what Dez & Wendy brought also helped develope Prince's style and sound

that melodic playing is something I still miss. I loved the layers along with Prince's playing.

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Reply #47 posted 10/21/11 4:16am

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joyinrepetition said:

Spinlight said:

I think there is an argument to be made that Miko's pocket-style playing made -the- best pairing with Prince's playstyle because he never competed directly with Prince and was always there playing something that Prince would've played if Prince was the one in the pocket.

Miko sounds most -like- Prince and I think Prince is a much funkier guitar player than Wendy (who is very funky but still shows her white girl roots and kicks into over-melodic or power-chordiness at times).

People thought "Alexa De Paris" could've been done by Wendy in the studio. Miko would never, ever have been mistaken for the player on "Alexa"... He's funkier than that.

That 86 pre Parade show at First Ave showed that Wendy definitely DID NOT play Alexa De Paris! She jacked it up all sorts of ways. That was all Prince. Wendy is much better now, but Miko was smooth and like Spinlight said, Miko was playing as if it were Prince himself.

I have shows were Prince jacked up in a bad way the guitar solos on I Could Never Take the Place of Your Man,

Mico's style definately stands out from Prince's at times, I have to listen closely, But I think it's just certain cords that he imitates that makes it work. I love that instead of 'established' people bringing a totally different sound to Prince's music that doesn't work.

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Reply #48 posted 10/21/11 5:04am

Tremolina

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TheEnglishGent said:

I Hardly ever know what song people are talking about when thye do this. BOSTTLOT.

I was thinking what the hell is IGBABN aswell. I know what PR GB and D&P is oh and this TAFKAP lol but wtf is IGBABN?

sheesh when it says 87 live how hard can it BE??? lol

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Reply #49 posted 10/21/11 5:07am

Tremolina

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I'm wasn't focusing on the 'funkier' part.

no no no! stay on topic OF4S! smile

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Reply #50 posted 10/21/11 5:22am

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Tremolina said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

no no no! stay on topic OF4S! smile

We are on topic, I said Dez was his best co-guitarist

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Reply #51 posted 10/21/11 5:29am

Tremolina

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Tremolina said:

no no no! stay on topic OF4S! smile

We are on topic, I said Dez was his best co-guitarist

J/k smile

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Reply #52 posted 10/21/11 8:31am

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I agree with Tremolina. But nowadays, I really don't miss the guitarists. I love it how P plays rhythm and solo guitar himself. And I never thought Wendy to be anything special as a guitarist. In fact, I think the Revolution is the most overrated band Prince ever had.

the reason the revolution were so brilliant is because they knew they were raw around the edges, and hungry to prove themselves. they worked like maniacs, those intimate warehouse sessions where they relentlessly jammed helped cement a unique relationship with prince that was never repeated. sure technically he had better musicians, but imo perfection does not equate to good music. levi was a much more technically gifted musician than wendy or miko, but his clean jazzy licks bored me to tears during the 90s shows. wendy and miko all the way for me, they both complimented prince equally well during different periods of his career.

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Reply #53 posted 10/21/11 8:58am

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Spinlight said:

WonderU said:

The scoring gig didn't start until the late 90's, like a decade after the Revolution and no lawsuits were filed wink

It took Tony M and Levi a while to sue him too!

Wow...great argument wink

Prince may be the purple Yoda, but Wendy & Lisa and Eric Leeds also sit on the Jedi Council.
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Reply #54 posted 10/21/11 9:46am

bobbyperu

Of course the Revolution worked their asses off to help create P's big breakthrough! Respect! And the name "Prince and the Revolution" has a magical ring to it, just like "Bob Dylan and The Band" , but for both artists, that doesn't mean that those backup bands were better than all the other ones they had.
(A thought just comes 2 mind: The Revolution recording their own records the way The Band did. hmmmmm...) hmmm smile
Let me just end by saying I love it how Prince keeps changing his bands to keep his sound fresh. I have no particular favorite.
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Reply #55 posted 10/21/11 10:19am

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robertgeorgeakabob said:

bobbyperu said:

I agree with Tremolina. But nowadays, I really don't miss the guitarists. I love it how P plays rhythm and solo guitar himself. And I never thought Wendy to be anything special as a guitarist. In fact, I think the Revolution is the most overrated band Prince ever had.

the reason the revolution were so brilliant is because they knew they were raw around the edges, and hungry to prove themselves. they worked like maniacs, those intimate warehouse sessions where they relentlessly jammed helped cement a unique relationship with prince that was never repeated. sure technically he had better musicians, but imo perfection does not equate to good music. levi was a much more technically gifted musician than wendy or miko, but his clean jazzy licks bored me to tears during the 90s shows. wendy and miko all the way for me, they both complimented prince equally well during different periods of his career.

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Reply #56 posted 10/21/11 10:24am

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bobbyperu said:

Of course the Revolution worked their asses off to help create P's big breakthrough! Respect! And the name "Prince and the Revolution" has a magical ring to it, just like "Bob Dylan and The Band" , but for both artists, that doesn't mean that those backup bands were better than all the other ones they had. (A thought just comes 2 mind: The Revolution recording their own records the way The Band did. hmmmmm...) hmmm smile Let me just end by saying I love it how Prince keeps changing his bands to keep his sound fresh. I have no particular favorite.

The thing I love about the Revolution members they did have stars in their eyes to jump the wagon and make there own. I've read and heard interviews from all the member from the beginning and they all had a respect 4 their place in the band.

It really wasn't till Cat & Boni (SOTT/Lovesexy) did people start leaving to make it on their own.

I think that's another difference about the after Revolution bands (they all seemed to have or want to do their own thing) so their commitment level was limited to a contract.

The SOTT band overall was different and similar to the Revolution since most were either a part of the Revolution:Eric Dr Fink Mico Atlanta Bliss or Sheila E protege:Boni Levi (Mico) and even Cat was hired originally to be a dancer with Sheila E(via video)

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Reply #57 posted 10/21/11 11:07am

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Tremolina said:

catpark said:

I was thinking what the hell is IGBABN aswell. I know what PR GB and D&P is oh and this TAFKAP lol but wtf is IGBABN?

sheesh when it says 87 live how hard can it BE??? lol

It's Gonna Be A Beautiful Night. excited

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Reply #58 posted 10/21/11 12:10pm

Riverman37

IMO

Apart from Prince himself, who offers the best 'chicken grease', Miko is his funkiest guitar player ever, and this is what this thread is about, right? lol

Wendy is a decent player, but not the funkiest, and i appreciate her first of all for her co-songwriting / co-composing input then for her guitarplaying.

I never did get the praise for Dez: a competent player, but nothing special to my ears (i aint no guitarplayer myself, so i might be missing something here).

I havent witnessed enough of Levi's live guitarplaying to really be able to judge him, allthough I love his solo on Sexy MF. The same goes with Mike Scott.

And Andy is just holding that guitar, right? lol

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Reply #59 posted 10/21/11 12:21pm

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To be fair, Dez is a very accomplished player. But I don't think he is a funky player. He does do great rock solos though.

Wendy sure is good at playing guitar and singing harmonies. I hear she scores well. But her style is more fDeluxe than it is Original 7ven.

IMO, Miko takes that cake! And yes, as WonderU pointed out, Miko's resume doesn't look as shiny as Wendy's. Some people would argue its cuz Miko ain't white. Some people would argue its cuz Miko is a funk player and funk music was only kept alive BY Prince so why would anyone go for his funky rhythm player?

I could see them going after Brown Mark cuz he's bass and urrybody need a bass player. But not everyone needs a funky chicken grease player. Prince did, cuz that's how he plays. Miko was there.

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