NeonCraxx said:

Whoever created that JW gif needs to be yelled at. Seriously.

I created it. Feel free to use your entire vocabulary, even the big words.

I won't be doing the yelling. Wasting my breath on bullshit is unneccesary.

You may wrap up the popcorn before it gets stale.

[Edited 10/16/11 14:26pm]

There's a reason why I rarely ever visit the Music and More section...

NeonCraxx said:

I won't be doing the yelling. Wasting my breath on bullshit is unneccesary.

You may wrap up the popcorn before it gets stale.

[Edited 10/16/11 14:26pm]

Only one edit. I'm proud of you.

smoothcriminal12 said:

There's a reason why I rarely ever visit the Music and More section...

squirrelgrease said:

NeonCraxx said:

I won't be doing the yelling. Wasting my breath on bullshit is unneccesary.

You may wrap up the popcorn before it gets stale.

[Edited 10/16/11 14:26pm]

Only one edit. I'm proud of you.

squirrelgrease said:

smoothcriminal12 said:

There's a reason why I rarely ever visit the Music and More section...

You know it...

squirrelgrease said:

NeonCraxx said:

eros said:

Hmmmm Me thinks someone switched to PertPlus .......to give dull and lifeless hair a bit more bite!

That's not even english. What the fuck are you saying?

eros said:

bobbyperu said:

I think everybody, including eros, and me, has misunderstood the question so far. When did Prince lose you means it's not about Prince, it's about us! Prince does what he wants to do, what he feels he needs to do and we either like him or we don't. And Prince always was religious but nobody blamed him for singing The Cross back in 1987. It has just become more apparent since he became a JW and JWs have a bad reputation as the folks who ring at your doorbell uninvited. But that's still a choice Prince made. So Prince has simply taken a different road in life than most of us. The recent concerts in Europe, when he was not preaching, have made me love the music again no matter what kind of man the musician is.

Are you kidding me? I'm contrived if nothing else ^.^ I know EXACTLY what my question was and I specifically worded it to reflect my meaning ..what has become more interesting however is the way its been misinterpreted

Eros, you need to understand something. You had no idea what you were writing and even less about what you were asking. Oh, and your answers to your question was wrong regardless of the logic, explanation and reason. Just wanted to make sure that you got that.

And Squirrel... loved the graphic. Pretty funny.

madhouseman said:

eros said:

bobbyperu said: Are you kidding me? I'm contrived if nothing else ^.^ I know EXACTLY what my question was and I specifically worded it to reflect my meaning ..what has become more interesting however is the way its been misinterpreted

Eros, you need to understand something. You had no idea what you were writing and even less about what you were asking. Oh, and your answers to your question was wrong regardless of the logic, explanation and reason. Just wanted to make sure that you got that.

And Squirrel... loved the graphic. Pretty funny.

The original question can easily be interpreted different ways. I took it to mean when did my interest in his newly released music wane. For me, it began with The Vault and when I bought The Rainbow Children I was so disappointed in all the mellow jazzy bluesy stuff that he did lose me. However, he started winning me back with 3121 and by the time I saw him in concert last year he had completely won me over again.

So yeah I do think he "lost" a lot of fans at some point in time, but I know that he also "won back" a lot of them.

And the fact that many people became turned off when he converted to JW had nothing to do with the religion itself, it had to do with his decision to no longer incorporate sex and swear words in his music and performances. It does kinda suck that we will never again see him perform songs in their original version such as Darling Nikki, Do Me Baby, Irresistible Bitch, P-Control, Head etc.

squirrelgrease said:

Spinlight said:

Nobody said you had to like everything. Now you're either trolling or just being a d-bag.

Huh? Spinlight, I like you and usually your posts are cheekily brash, but have intelligent thought behind them. I'm very curious as to why you think madhouseman is trolling. What I'm reading from him is that he's trying to explain his point of view and the way it ties in with the question posed by the OP. For some reason a few folks cannot wrap their heads around the simple concept that we can still be fans of Prince's past output, but find that the early genius has perhaps become just plain crazy at a certain point in his career.

Madhouseman has been nothing but straightforward and polite in his vain attempt to explain his POV. I can't fathom the need for name calling on your part, especially in this case of a simple back-and-forth, generally pleasant discourse.

I addressed the line I took issue with in my first sentence.

Blanket statements are scary things. Especially when no one said anyone had to like everything P comes out with.

Ugot2shakesumthin said:

Spinlight said:

Nobody said you had to like everything. Now you're either trolling or just being a d-bag.

Dude you're so predictable. I know you do not merit a response and I want to pity you and have compassion for you becasue you were obviously abused as a kid or something, but you remind me too much of snot globed tissue that also doubled as a tampon. Don't call someone a douche or troll when you are ten levels below that yourself.

The minute you thought that wasting your time writing this fucked up post is the moment you went wrong.

Get your nose out of my crotch. I don't know you, don't care to know you, and don't need to be trolled by you either.

Spinlight said:

eros said:

Spinlight said:

The minute you thought that wasting your time writing this fucked up post is the moment you went wrong.

Get your nose out of my crotch. I don't know you, don't care to know you, and don't need to be trolled by you either.

You! Shouldn't you be in your coffin shunning daylight somewhere?

It's 3:30am, dumb shit. No daylight. Try again.

Spinlight said:

eros said:

Spinlight said:

It's 3:30am, dumb shit. No daylight. Try again.

So just how many hours does that leave you to suck the blood of vigins? ....and please don't forget to factor in the obligatory smoke breaks

Ok.

As much as I don't generally have much time for eros - little too smug for me - I have to admit that he was crystal clear in his OP (granted, the quality of his posts quickly degenerated after that, as seems to be his pattern).

Everyone seems to have gone by their own definition of lost, and some have taken the whole thing pretty personally, but really, he gave a specific example of the sort of fan he was talking about and then asked a straight-forward question to those particular fans.

I didn't answer because I'm one of those Prince hasn't 'lost' by any of the given definitions. I don't like his old work any better than his new (or vice versa) and I'm certainly not telling what my favourite era is to this crowd

Admittedly it's taken me a while, but I get that people can be on a fansite of a current recording artist even if they only appreciate their early work - a not altogether different experience from, say, being on an Elvis fansite, where I'm sure no one is telling them to GTFO for not liking his new stuff

If there was one thing missing from eros' post, perhaps it was the middle ground - the fan that does not consider themselves 'lost', but doesn't love everything he's released either.

I was happy to take that as a given, but that seems to be the emerging sticking point for a few people.

You can obviously absolutely still be a fan (ie. not 'lost') and be discerning about what you like and don't like.

But eros basically asked, iff you consider yourself 'lost', then at what point did Prince lose you, and those that fall into that category have clearly responded.

It really doesn't need to be this hard.

NouveauDance said:

Obviously Prince hasn't "lost" anyone actively posting here.

I wouldn't say that. People are here because something about the man's music at some point interested them. Personally, I think he's not released a solid album in many years & his last several releases are largely funk by the numbers, but I still buy them, hoping for something special. There's plenty to talk about re: Prince beyond new music & there are plenty of reasons people might feel he lost something along the way. For me, it's not only the deteriorating quality of the music, but any number of idiotic statements & business fiascos, dating back to the Crystal Ball mess & the various issues with the NPGMC. His saving grace remains his skills as a live performer.

When did Prince lose me? never

When did I start losing interest in new music written by Prince? never

When did I start thinking new music by Prince sucked? - D&P

Chiquetet said:

Chiquetet said:

eros said:

This post feels kinda like someone just blew me to completion and then got up and slapped the shit out of me..or maybe even the reverse order What have I ever done to you anyway? Why so much angst and contempt for me?

No slapping, blowing, angst or contempt.

Just a few observations.

Chiquetet said: