onemorething said:

He lost me right after SOTT, I have been trying to believe again ever since but, nope. Everything after that sounds like a crazy person or someone whose "belief system" was shattered and they won't admit it.

eros said:

When did he lose you?

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There's more artists that-a-way. No need to sit around and put yourself through 24 years of misery.

Isnt this a fansite???? and a fansite now in 2011, not way back when. So for some reason you are all still thinking about and are in someway interested in Prince, so obviously he hasnt lost any of you!! Y'all still here!!!!

eros said:

For some here this is life. Their mantra is 'Prince now and forever' He is the be-all to end-all. For others this is about remembering a time when he really moved us and maybe trying to reconnect. So here, I'm talking to those fans ...the ones who the bright light of Prince's greatness now appears dim and distant from a far off galaxy light years away When did he lose you? [Edited 10/11/11 9:29am]

With "Batman" and "Graffitie Bridge". It all came back with "Diamonds And Pearls". So the period that he lost me didn't take that long.

Graffiti Bridge was very shaky ground. Diamonds and Pearls officially destroyed the legend.

Prince lost me when I first played the Diamonds and Pears album. He got me back when I heard TRC. I don't really care about the JW stuff. I wouldn't have known that's even what was going on if not for this very site. Yeah, he lost me for about 10 years. I like everything from TRC on, excluding Planet Earth, I just don't like that album.

i was so into prince... all the way .. i couldnt have imagined a time when i would have 'lost' him..

but i would say.. around New Power Soul.. we lost eachother...

I didnt even go to the tour...

the jehovah stuff makes me FURIOUS...

but i really love the music and the message from the beginning thru Emancipation....

I think there are some gems on 3121 and Lotusflower... take the best of those two and it's one great album.... i think musicology, 2010, and planet earth are just rotten to the core.

I feel like the 'old' prince is bubbling under... the one who said 'we dont let society, tell us how it's supposed to be'....

but, im definitely a major fan... always on the org.... still love the music and what it meant and still means to me and life... and really appreciative of the messages of self acceptance and individuality that he sent out ...

[Edited 10/12/11 8:07am]

itsjustaroundthecorner said:

I feel like the 'old' prince is bubbling under... the one who said 'we dont let society, tell us how it's supposed to be'....

The old Prince is still here. His religious beliefs are a prime example. He's always got to be the one doing something different than the majority. Remember what he said about drum machines when Michael B. was with him? He said everyone else was using drum machines and samplers, so I got rid of all that stuff. Some shit about a yard sale out front of Paisely Park. He part of a very exclusive and strict religion that very few people have any interest in messing with. He's still EXACTLY like he was before. You would never see him joining some mainstream religious group because that's what EVERYONE does. In his mind, he's still the same rebel he's always been. He needs people telling him he can't do something or that something he's doing is wrong. It's his motivation to screw his pants on in the morning. When is his "best" art unleashed? Usually when he's pissed or feeling righteously indignant. TRC is another perfect example. He felt righteous indignation because so many people dogged him for his beliefs AND so many morons proclaimed it to be a cult, (which is any religious mind-control situation). F.U.N.K. was when he was pissed and everyone thinks that's a gem of a song. Prince is doing exactly what I thought he would be doing and I ALWAYS thought he was pretty narrow-minded and conservative. To answer the question, Prince momentarily lost me on TRC just because the lyrics were such a load of conflicting horseshit. Akashic records? Most JWs would dimiss that shit as witchcraft. Astrology? Jehovah doesn't give a shit if you're a "gemini". According to the bible, (ANY bible) that shit is also witchcraft.

We've been mostly cool since then with the exception of Planet Earth. That's some of the weakest shit I've heard from ANYONE in years. Some of the music was still pretty cool, though.

mysterymum said:

Isnt this a fansite???? and a fansite now in 2011, not way back when. So for some reason you are all still thinking about and are in someway interested in Prince, so obviously he hasnt lost any of you!! Y'all still here!!!!

I'm pretty sure the OP and others are talking about "losing him" regarding his latest string of releases. People can still be here and talk about the albums and concerts and whatnot from back in the day (or from whenever it is they believe he stopped making otherworldly shit). And don't forget the bootlegs. If I say he lost me about 15 years, I can still post and listen to and be a big fan of his from 78-95 or whatever.

Y'all people act like you HAVE to like his most recent output to have the "right" to post or lurk here. GTFOHWTBS!

mysterymum said:

Isnt this a fansite???? and a fansite now in 2011, not way back when. So for some reason you are all still thinking about and are in someway interested in Prince, so obviously he hasnt lost any of you!! Y'all still here!!!!

Me still checking into Prince.org has NOTHING to do with Prince anymore. I rarely go into the Prince forum, don't hunt for his music, don't wait for it. He lost me thru his $ grabbing websites, his JW antics, his subpar releases, his greatest hits concerts, his distribution channels anon anon. I still listen to readily available new releases online, but I haven't found anything worth spending a nickel on. I think there are many of us that feel this way - and don't use Prince.org the way we used to. I use it for 'other' music headlines, political headlines, listening to new artists, the odd whimsical chatter in 'General' and keeping in touch with a few. So for me, I could really care less about P.

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Emancipation. I have to admit that I haven't been that interested with most of his post WB albums. I get them, I listen to them and then they sit on my shelf.

I actively follow Prince still because he has the potential for greatness again, and I enjoy it when he tours, but am I excited about new Prince albums? Not really.

Do I enjoy the music of his that meant something to me? Yes and I will always enjoy it.

I want him to keep making the music he wants to make... I just don't have to enjoy it to continue being a fan.

madhouseman said:

Emancipation. I have to admit that I haven't been that interested with most of his post WB albums. I get them, I listen to them and then they sit on my shelf.

I actively follow Prince still because he has the potential for greatness again, and I enjoy it when he tours, but am I excited about new Prince albums? Not really.

Do I enjoy the music of his that meant something to me? Yes and I will always enjoy it.

I want him to keep making the music he wants to make... I just don't have to enjoy it to continue being a fan.

Well put. I agree. It was Emancipation that did it for me. Rainbow Children was the only thing after that had me interested. But nothing after. Too uninspired sounding.

He lost me 1996, post Warner Bros..... around Emancipation.

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I still enjoy a few Prince tracks, but the albums haven't been great since the Come/ The Gold Experience era aka the Slave years.

Not to belabor the obvious but if you still consider yourself a "fan" and follow his work(regardless of if you love it or hate it) then he hasn't lost you. You don't follow someone who has lost you. The fact that y'all even know about his recent releases and methods of business speaks volumes to that contradiction.

Billy Idol lost me after Whiplash Smile and I can't tell you a damn thing about him today.

steakfinger said:

The old Prince is still here. His religious beliefs are a prime example. He's always got to be the one doing something different than the majority. Remember what he said about drum machines when Michael B. was with him? He said everyone else was using drum machines and samplers, so I got rid of all that stuff. Some shit about a yard sale out front of Paisely Park. He part of a very exclusive and strict religion that very few people have any interest in messing with. He's still EXACTLY like he was before. You would never see him joining some mainstream religious group because that's what EVERYONE does. In his mind, he's still the same rebel he's always been. He needs people telling him he can't do something or that something he's doing is wrong. It's his motivation to screw his pants on in the morning. When is his "best" art unleashed? Usually when he's pissed or feeling righteously indignant. TRC is another perfect example. He felt righteous indignation because so many people dogged him for his beliefs AND so many morons proclaimed it to be a cult, (which is any religious mind-control situation). F.U.N.K. was when he was pissed and everyone thinks that's a gem of a song. Prince is doing exactly what I thought he would be doing and I ALWAYS thought he was pretty narrow-minded and conservative. To answer the question, Prince momentarily lost me on TRC just because the lyrics were such a load of conflicting horseshit. Akashic records? Most JWs would dimiss that shit as witchcraft. Astrology? Jehovah doesn't give a shit if you're a "gemini". According to the bible, (ANY bible) that shit is also witchcraft.

Very good and true post!

^ Honestman.... Yes he has lost me, there is a huge different on the fan i was 1983 to 1995... and the fan I am now...

I used to be a burning hot fan haha..... not anymore.... now I'm lukewarm only...

[Edited 10/12/11 11:41am]

steakfinger said:

itsjustaroundthecorner said:

I feel like the 'old' prince is bubbling under... the one who said 'we dont let society, tell us how it's supposed to be'....

The old Prince is still here. His religious beliefs are a prime example. He's always got to be the one doing something different than the majority. Remember what he said about drum machines when Michael B. was with him? He said everyone else was using drum machines and samplers, so I got rid of all that stuff. Some shit about a yard sale out front of Paisely Park. He part of a very exclusive and strict religion that very few people have any interest in messing with. He's still EXACTLY like he was before. You would never see him joining some mainstream religious group because that's what EVERYONE does. In his mind, he's still the same rebel he's always been. He needs people telling him he can't do something or that something he's doing is wrong. It's his motivation to screw his pants on in the morning. When is his "best" art unleashed? Usually when he's pissed or feeling righteously indignant. TRC is another perfect example. He felt righteous indignation because so many people dogged him for his beliefs AND so many morons proclaimed it to be a cult, (which is any religious mind-control situation). F.U.N.K. was when he was pissed and everyone thinks that's a gem of a song. Prince is doing exactly what I thought he would be doing and I ALWAYS thought he was pretty narrow-minded and conservative. To answer the question, Prince momentarily lost me on TRC just because the lyrics were such a load of conflicting horseshit. Akashic records? Most JWs would dimiss that shit as witchcraft. Astrology? Jehovah doesn't give a shit if you're a "gemini". According to the bible, (ANY bible) that shit is also witchcraft.

We've been mostly cool since then with the exception of Planet Earth. That's some of the weakest shit I've heard from ANYONE in years. Some of the music was still pretty cool, though.

Good one! I remember when Lovesexy was just released and he started touring for the Lovesexy tour and everyone fell over him because he asked the audience to sing "God is Love, love is God".......to a lot of people, he was a religious freak.

I guess they never really went to a Prince concert. Because once you were there, the magic started and even fans of Satan screamed "God is Love" because Prince asked them to. When he asked people to dress in peach and black for one of his concerts, EVERYONE came in peach and black. I'm pretty sure a lot of people went to the store first to buy something to wear. What he did during a concert was one of a kind. Not one evening was the same. Change of setlist, change of order of the songs. I've seen 2 Lovesexy gigs where he took the time to get behind the piano and one night he didn't feel like it, so he simply didn't. That was Prince. And everyone knew that. Everyone knew what to expect and that was that you never knew what to expect. That was the only certainty you got with him. So it was never boring.

Prince always did and does what he wants to do and in that aspect he has always been completely free creatively. And yes, he is/was always at his very best when he was pissed, down, frustrated etc. That counts for a lot of artists, BTW.

Sorry for my ranting here.

Spinlight said:

eros said:

....that was pretty much his last 'hurah' for me

You're a damn liar. And I hate it when people post stupid shit like this.

You haven't listened to a new Prince album in 20 years? Log the fuck off and never come back.

That is what I am saying!!!!

You took it by storm!

the only time he REALLY lost me was 92/93. I was NOT a fan of the symbol album and Tony M. Sexy MF, My Name is Prince,...and the rest of the album. The only songs I liked from that year was 7 and God Created Woman. THEN he changed his name. I really thought the guy was done. I didn't even know Come was released (lol) until a couple years later.

Then a friend gave me a tape with Gold Experience songs in late 94. It won be back big time...and have been back in the camp ever since...with the usual ups and downs...which is par for the course in Prince-world.

However, gotta say right now, even tho I hang out a lot on the org, I am starting to lose interest on his current projects. I still pay attention...and happy that I do as I would've never known about The Family's/fDeluxe's new project (LOVE their new one)...but Planet Earth and 20Ten were letdowns. I DO like Lotusflower, but was NOT happy with the website (who was??). Finally can the guy ever play in other cities in the US besides NYC and LA???

[Edited 10/12/11 12:27pm]

My doubts began with The Batman album and Graffiti Bridge, but in retrospect he lost me with the 'Come' album: that was such a piss-poor, generic, bland collection of underwritten songs.

Since then i did stop buying most of his albums. The first Prince album i bought again, was Musicology, based on the reports he was making a comeback.

I'm really struggling to understand why anyone would take the time to register for a fan site if they haven't liked the said person for 5 years, let alone 20 odd!

I briefly lost Prince just after he released rave. I didn't particularly dislike the album, but my taste in music took a big change about that time. I really started getting into Pink Floyd, The Doors, Leonard Cohen and acts tike that. In fact I was so into Floyd that Prince really didn't get a look in for a while.

It was about a year and a half ago that I decided that melancholic music is all good and well, but i was in desperate need for some music with a bit of life in it and I started listening to albums like 1999 and Dirty Mind, it blew my head off once again, just like it did back in the early 90's.

I had pretty much every album up till Rave, I also had PE but shelved it after a few plays. So when I got back into his music I decided to fill in the missing albums. I especially liked Musicology on first listen but the rest took me a while and now PE, Lotusflower MPLSound, 20ten and especially The Rainbow children are my most listened discs, I love them all in a way I wouldn't have thought had been possible a few years back.

Now it seems that I only listen to Prince these days and just to round it off, I got to see him in Dublin, and that has just cemented him as my favourite artist ever.

My Prince lost and found story!

Well of course you can be a Prince fan and not like some of his material. Even most mainstream music critics do not dig Prince's 90' output but are huge fans. His body of work and genius speaks for itself.

GTFOH with the "if you do not like his new music why are here?" bullshit

Who the f*ck do some of you folks think you are? The Prince fan police?

[Edited 10/12/11 14:13pm]

thats an easy one.. in 1999 when the Big Beat became cutting edge of new music. His recordings went to the bottom of the pile. Meanwhile others took it to the next level. After that he would dabble in a new sound or two but for the most part all his new albums sounded the same. His lyrical diarrhea spoiled many songs that would be gems if he would just shut up. For example "The Work" is an amazing composition but its so polluted with religious nonsense that I almost never play it.

I have faith that Prince has it in him to embrace a new sound, but as it stands now there is just too much good new music out there. That back to basics Musicology format is too boring.

V10LETBLUES said:

Well of course you can be a Prince fan and not like some of his material. Even most mainstream music critics do not dig Prince's 90' output but are huge fans. His body of work and genius speaks for itself.

GTFOH with the "if you do not like his new music why are here?" bullshit

Who the f*ck do some of you folks think you are? The Prince fan police?

[Edited 10/12/11 14:13pm]

Of course you can be a Prince fan and not like some of his material. I just find it strange that some that post regularly, don't like any of it since Sign O' The Times. I mean come on, let go already, move on, it's the best for everyone concerned!

[Edited 10/12/11 14:54pm]

V10LETBLUES said:

Well of course you can be a Prince fan and not like some of his material. Even most mainstream music critics do not dig Prince's 90' output but are huge fans. His body of work and genius speaks for itself.

GTFOH with the "if you do not like his new music why are here?" bullshit

Who the f*ck do some of you folks think you are? The Prince fan police?

[Edited 10/12/11 14:13pm]

It's not so much that I have a problem with people that don't like the new music because there are the old school fans and the new school fans. It's people that don't post on here unless they see threads like this that get on my nerves. When the negativity is up for grabs they feed on that shit. That's when I question them being here.

Fuck cynicism!

Fuck the 80's!

and FUCK Bill O'Reilly!

^ Just felt like putting that out there.

[Edited 10/12/11 16:14pm]

2001 Celebration release of the Rainbow Children

V10LETBLUES said:

kangafunk said:

NeonCraxx said:

eros said:

Why drop in on 'threads like this' seeing that they upset you so much?

1. They don't upset me.

2. Because I can.

eros said:

What..are you here collecting names for the blacklist or something?

No I'm not....

...whatever that's supposed to mean.