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Thread started 09/29/11 12:58pm

eros

How Prince effed us all up

Yeah...I grew up a Prince fan

However in retrospect....I'm not quite sure that was a good thing nor am I sure that he was a good influence on culture and society as a whole.

Music is powerful!....

Did he use his power for the good or to our detriment?
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Reply #1 posted 09/29/11 1:00pm

NewYorkMike

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Comes down to opinion. Here are some of mine:

Stupid idea.

Stupid thread.

Stupid post.

Idiotic down to the motherfucking "t".

Good day sir.

NewYorkMike = Bria Valente

The Org is trying to censor me.

Beyonce ain't got shit on me.
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Reply #2 posted 09/29/11 1:01pm

eros

NewYorkMike said:

Comes down to opinion. Here are some of mine:



Stupid idea.



Stupid thread.



Stupid post.



Idiotic down to the motherfucking "t".



Good day sir.




...so then hopefully you won't check back in on it
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Reply #3 posted 09/29/11 1:03pm

NewYorkMike

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Nah.

[Edited 9/29/11 13:15pm]

NewYorkMike = Bria Valente

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Reply #4 posted 09/29/11 1:05pm

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He never fucked me up, don't speak for us all.

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Reply #5 posted 09/29/11 1:06pm

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eros said:

Yeah...I grew up a Prince fan However in retrospect....I'm not quite sure that was a good thing nor am I sure that he was a good influence on culture and society as a whole. Music is powerful!.... Did he use his power for the good or to our detriment?

What are you saying? When I see these titles like "How Prince F'd Us All Up", I expect to see some back up or explanation. A lot of people do this on the org and it's getting overrated. If you feel like you're getting fucked over, then BYE!!!

NewYorkMike said:

Comes down to opinion. Here are some of mine:

Stupid idea.

Stupid thread.

Stupid post.

Idiotic down to the motherfucking "t".

Good day sir.

Win.

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Reply #6 posted 09/29/11 1:07pm

NouveauDance

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TheDigitalGardener said:

He never fucked me up, don't speak for us all.

Just gonna say, speak for yourself!

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Reply #7 posted 09/29/11 1:09pm

eros

One of the most noteable things, in my opinion, that is a direct result of his legacy as an artist is his fanatical obsession with biracial and non black women as the standard of beauty to be coveted.

He was a heavy contributor to that way of thinking , and his legacy has been seen in music videos and commercials every since.
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Reply #8 posted 09/29/11 1:14pm

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eros said:

One of the most noteable things, in my opinion, that is a direct result of his legacy as an artist is his fanatical obsession with biracial and non black women as the standard of beauty to be coveted. He was a heavy contributor to that way of thinking , and his legacy has been seen in music videos and commercials every since.

Boy you're on a roll today. A stupid one I might add.

What fucking direct result? How in your little mind can you even gauge this? Please share! Or at least provide sources.

Fanatical obsession with biracial and non black women as the standard of beauty? Wow, lay off the coke.

Heavy contributor? To Black power right? Yeah I think I get what you're saying now.

Legacy observed via music videos and commercials. Hmm. Because he's done WAY more commercials than tours and THAT's how we should judge his legacy.

For fucks sake.

NewYorkMike = Bria Valente

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Reply #9 posted 09/29/11 1:15pm

eros

Next.....

The effeminization of the Black man
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Reply #10 posted 09/29/11 1:15pm

aardvark15

The only person Prince effed up was himself. Tipper Gore is a lying piece of shit. Let the purple music play!

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Reply #11 posted 09/29/11 1:17pm

eros

NewYorkMike said:



eros said:


One of the most noteable things, in my opinion, that is a direct result of his legacy as an artist is his fanatical obsession with biracial and non black women as the standard of beauty to be coveted. He was a heavy contributor to that way of thinking , and his legacy has been seen in music videos and commercials every since.


Boy you're on a roll today. A stupid one I might add.



What fucking direct result? How in your little mind can you even gauge this? Please share! Or at least provide sources.



Fanatical obsession with biracial and non black women as the standard of beauty? Wow, lay off the coke.



Heavy contributor? To Black power right? Yeah I think I get what you're saying now.



Legacy observed via music videos and commercials. Hmm. Because he's done WAY more commercials than tours and THAT's how we should judge his legacy.



For fucks sake.




...still here though, right?
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Reply #12 posted 09/29/11 4:08pm

mzsadii

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As this is the good old USA, Prince has a right to live and love whom he wants.

Prince's Sarah
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Reply #13 posted 09/29/11 5:36pm

eros

mzsadii said:

As this is the good old USA, Prince has a right to live and love whom he wants.




True.....but that still doesn't negate his accountability as an artist in the spotlight
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Reply #14 posted 09/29/11 6:30pm

SeventeenDayze

NouveauDance said:

TheDigitalGardener said:

He never fucked me up, don't speak for us all.

Just gonna say, speak for yourself!

Agreed ND, isn't this a fan site? If anything else the ONLY way I can say Prince "ruined" us is by setting a pretty high bar of musicianship, stage presence, songwriting and creativity all in one person that just doesn't happen all the time...

Trolls be gone!
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Reply #15 posted 09/29/11 8:42pm

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eros said:

One of the most noteable things, in my opinion, that is a direct result of his legacy as an artist is his fanatical obsession with biracial and non black women as the standard of beauty to be coveted. He was a heavy contributor to that way of thinking , and his legacy has been seen in music videos and commercials every since.

Yeah... That's Prince's fault.

Hilarious!!

lol

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Reply #16 posted 09/29/11 8:57pm

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eros said:

One of the most noteable things, in my opinion, that is a direct result of his legacy as an artist is his fanatical obsession with biracial and non black women as the standard of beauty to be coveted. He was a heavy contributor to that way of thinking , and his legacy has been seen in music videos and commercials every since.

'fanatical obsession' is redundant. if someone is fanatical, they are obsessed.

oh, forget it.

When you don't have a case, yell RACE!
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Reply #17 posted 09/29/11 9:00pm

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eros said:

Next..... The effeminization of the Black man

WTF!!

When you don't have a case, yell RACE!
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Reply #18 posted 09/29/11 11:24pm

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trolls lockdance bored2

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Reply #19 posted 09/29/11 11:56pm

alphastreet

the only other male artist that I can put up against MJ, and a few times I almost "converted" lol

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Reply #20 posted 09/30/11 2:42am

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Oh my god, what an odd thread.

How do you see effeminisation af black men?

1) Are they really?

2) How on earth has anything Prince has done have an effect on this?

How do you know he has an obsession with non black women, and not just women?

While I agree that mainstream culture is or has been obsessed with the white anglo saxon look in women, I fail to see Prince as a big influence on this, but I might be wrong.

But most of all I wonder why these exact two points are the ones you bring up???

(I'm not sure I want to read the answer, but they might be good, so I may not be all rhetorical)...

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Reply #21 posted 09/30/11 4:28am

eros

NiceNBreezy said:



eros said:


One of the most noteable things, in my opinion, that is a direct result of his legacy as an artist is his fanatical obsession with biracial and non black women as the standard of beauty to be coveted. He was a heavy contributor to that way of thinking , and his legacy has been seen in music videos and commercials every since.


'fanatical obsession' is redundant. if someone is fanatical, they are obsessed.



oh, forget it.



You sure schooled me, huh?
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Reply #22 posted 09/30/11 4:31am

eros

LadyCasanova said:

trolls lockdance bored2




I love how people are automatically proclaimed trolls when we don't agree with their point of view.....love that shit!
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Reply #23 posted 09/30/11 4:55am

eros

irreverence said:

Oh my god, what an odd thread.



How do you see effeminisation af black men?


1) Are they really?


2) How on earth has anything Prince has done have an effect on this?



How do you know he has an obsession with non black women, and not just women?


While I agree that mainstream culture is or has been obsessed with the white anglo saxon look in women, I fail to see Prince as a big influence on this, but I might be wrong.



But most of all I wonder why these exact two points are the ones you bring up???



(I'm not sure I want to read the answer, but they might be good, so I may not be all rhetorical)...




I can certainly understand how these may not be the easiest of concepts for the Rainbow Children to palate.....but I stand by my observations
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Reply #24 posted 09/30/11 5:11am

eros

In the movie Purple Rain, Prince didn't even portray his own mother as a Black woman yet certainly didn't skip the opportunity to cast in the role of his deranged and abusive father a dark skinned Black man[url]
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Reply #25 posted 09/30/11 5:15am

JOYJOY

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Like your initial questions..! ( food for thought and all that)

Sorry your getting flamed..

Umm.. dont agree with your idea that Prince inspired others (blacks?) to place higher value on biracial/non black women. Peeps been doing that way before him in media and real life.

I see your point though re his previous dress sense, but again he wasn’t the only one as lots of 80's rock bands stateside wore makeup and had big hair.. I don’t even think there was an agenda to feminize black men specifically at that time.. just men in general. wink

Most of the bands & artists I admired as a kid were part of the New Romantic scene - big into synths and wore makeup whether they were male or female. I believe the New Romantic 'image' crossed the pond and inspired a lot of US artists in the 70's & 80's. Prince is included IMHO as his purple rain look was a direct steel from Adam and the Ants look. (Prince was in knee high socks and a Mac before his management signed him up to the NR train razz )

Growing up in a Christian community and household I had been exposed to thoughts & preconceived ideas about sex & sexuality etc.. from adults. But Prince kinda 'taught me through his music' that having faith in God and a libido was NORMAL and not something I should be ashamed about.

The only downside to my admiration of him and his music after all these years is that I tend to find men who look like Prince more attractive than other dudes - minus that New Romantic makeup btw (As I grew out of that)..

One minute they want peace……

Then do everything to make it go away. rolleyes
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Reply #26 posted 09/30/11 5:21am

eros

I appreciate your honesty and objectivity

--thanx
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Reply #27 posted 09/30/11 5:42am

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eros said:

In the movie Purple Rain, Prince didn't even portray his own mother as a Black woman yet certainly didn't skip the opportunity to cast in the role of his deranged and abusive father a dark skinned Black man[url]

Very true but i think he was in the game then ...... he's no longer a player..... since he wrote "Slave" on his face and produced Sign of the Times he became an outcast.....

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Reply #28 posted 09/30/11 5:57am

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If Prince ever effed me up, it was for the good of me

Yes, at 19, I finally saw the Revolution, a legendary band. And I talked to Wendy!!! biggrin In addition to seeing Prince, I have now lived life. Thank you Purple People!!
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Reply #29 posted 09/30/11 6:03am

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i visit this forum relatively frequently and post every now and then. This post has nothing to do with the original title but more to do with an individual whose name I have noticed once or twice over the past couple of weeks or so: New York Mike.

Is it me, or is this guy a complete twat? Jumping on every thread and bashing it. No offence to the rest of the Americans on here (as I have no problem with Americans) but Mike seems to fit the negative American sterotype of a loud mouthed, opinionated prick who thinks that only his opinions matter.

Why don't you go and eat a 'corn dog' or something? At least that will occupy your gargantuan mouth for a minute or 2, and will hopefully mean that less bullshit will emit from it.

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