unique said:

BartVanHemelen said:

Wrong.

Use google you stupid fuck.

I am always right.

that's you told!

Yeah, that proved me wrong.

Oh wait no, it just made you look even dumber. Can't even accept defeat. Grow up.

purpledoveuk said:

I don't know about Little Red Corvette...but U Got The Look and Kiss have been (kiss wasn't his version in the ad).

He still had to OK it.

Tina Turner also once covered "Baby I'm A Star" for a Target-only album, and that cover was used in the ad for it (and Prince had to OK that).

dJJ said:

smoothcriminal12 said:

He's sold out before. (Even though I hate that term and it's meaning. Unfortunately, in the business, making money = selling out.)

I agree.

Why is making money with the music one creates a bad thing? Music is all-present in advertisement. I don't understand why musicians should not compose or handle their music for advertisement.

What moralistic or artistic assumption leads to the conclusion a musician is a 'sell out' when making money with music for advertisement?

Prince claimed his songs were his children. We're just holding him to the standards HE sets.

jonylawson said:

not at all

but prince has nevr done a commercial nor lent his name to endorse one

Keep ignoring the proof. Just pretend it didn't happen.

BartVanHemelen said:

dJJ said:

I agree.

Why is making money with the music one creates a bad thing? Music is all-present in advertisement. I don't understand why musicians should not compose or handle their music for advertisement.

What moralistic or artistic assumption leads to the conclusion a musician is a 'sell out' when making money with music for advertisement?

Prince claimed his songs were his children. We're just holding him to the standards HE sets.

Lawd, if his songs are his children, he's been shipping some of them off to boarding schools half prepared. And those are the lucky ones. The other children are locked in a cellar.

I agree!

Prince COULD have milked Purple Rain with a World Tour in 1985-1987! Maybe even longer if he was a scared hack to move on from his "MTV fame".

But...

He didnt he quickly put out an album that was totally different, musically & look wise to weed out all the phoney fans!

Was it a mistake??

NO

Because Prince had another chance in 2004 with Musicology!

He could have done a World Tour in 2004 and he didnt! So clearly Prince does what he wants and isn't a fame whore.

Sure losing out on a world audience on the biggest level as well as maybe $500 million with both tours sounds like, why not?? Well when your a true musican the last thing your thinking about is that nonesense and more of "Hey lets do a new project!" Thats a true artist!

CherrieMoonKisses said:

I often wondered if he sold out by performing on American Idol.

Can't believe it took so long to be mentioned and when it is, it's mentioned by none other than one of my favorite .orgers of all time!

Hello Cherriedear!!!

Hope you've been well!

imago said:

BartVanHemelen said:

Prince claimed his songs were his children. We're just holding him to the standards HE sets.

Lawd, if his songs are his children, he's been shipping some of them off to boarding schools half prepared. And those are the lucky ones. The other children are locked in a cellar.

And some children star in commercials. Those are better off than the ones locked up in a cellar.

dJJ said:

imago said:

Lawd, if his songs are his children, he's been shipping some of them off to boarding schools half prepared. And those are the lucky ones. The other children are locked in a cellar.

And some children star in commercials. Those are better off than the ones locked up in a cellar.

What about that poor child who has to sing for the Minnesota Vikings?

imago said:

BartVanHemelen said:

Prince claimed his songs were his children. We're just holding him to the standards HE sets.

Lawd, if his songs are his children, he's been shipping some of them off to boarding schools half prepared. And those are the lucky ones. The other children are locked in a cellar.

funksterr said:

imago said:

Lawd, if his songs are his children, he's been shipping some of them off to boarding schools half prepared. And those are the lucky ones. The other children are locked in a cellar.

imago . . . post of the year, kid.

BartVanHemelen said:

dJJ said:

I agree.

Why is making money with the music one creates a bad thing? Music is all-present in advertisement. I don't understand why musicians should not compose or handle their music for advertisement.

What moralistic or artistic assumption leads to the conclusion a musician is a 'sell out' when making money with music for advertisement?

Prince claimed his songs were his children. We're just holding him to the standards HE sets.

wht fascinates me more is how a grown ass man like you is so OBSESSED by Prince yet your always so negative.....

very odd behaviour

to be honest man i started this thread cos i was bored at work like an afterthought..relax man

get a girlfriend

go to the park

enjoy purple rain

dont spend all your time hatin

and LISTEN AND LEARN from unique-show humility

all nonsense aside, he has had a lot less music in ads than someone of his stature would normally have.

I think he's a bit beyond selling out though, he practically invented a new way of doing it with Purple Rain, avant-garde selling out.

jaawwnn said:

he has had a lot less music in ads than someone of his stature would normally have.

That's true.

namepeace said:

jaawwnn said:

he has had a lot less music in ads than someone of his stature would normally have.

That's true.

Yeah doesn't ignore the fact that some have been used for ads, usually with someone else singing it - with his permission (I know he was tickled pink when Tina covered him ).

Timmy84 said:

namepeace said:

That's true.

Yeah doesn't ignore the fact that some have been used for ads, usually with someone else singing it - with his permission (I know he was tickled pink when Tina covered him ).

Indeed.

I remember in the mid-80's, when the Beatles were starting to license out their songs for ads, their fans were in an uproar, as if a part of their innocence had been lost. Amusing in hindsight.

But I wonder how many of Prince's songs are actually a good "fit" for advertisers.

namepeace said:

Timmy84 said:

Yeah doesn't ignore the fact that some have been used for ads, usually with someone else singing it - with his permission (I know he was tickled pink when Tina covered him ).

Indeed.

I remember in the mid-80's, when the Beatles were starting to license out their songs for ads, their fans were in an uproar, as if a part of their innocence had been lost. Amusing in hindsight.

But I wonder how many of Prince's songs are actually a good "fit" for advertisers.

Not a whole lot. Most of it are either too "dirty" or sophisticated. Obviously songs like "Little Red Corvette", "1999" and "Let's Go Crazy" is perfect for ads...

namepeace said:

Timmy84 said:

Yeah doesn't ignore the fact that some have been used for ads, usually with someone else singing it - with his permission (I know he was tickled pink when Tina covered him ).

Indeed.

I remember in the mid-80's, when the Beatles were starting to license out their songs for ads, their fans were in an uproar, as if a part of their innocence had been lost. Amusing in hindsight.

But I wonder how many of Prince's songs are actually a good "fit" for advertisers.

well these guys could use sexy mf in their ad's

[img:$uid]http://www.mf-refrigeration.co.uk/images/top-banner.jpg[/img:$uid]

and these guys could use pussy control

[img:$uid]http://laughingsquid.com/wp-content/uploads/cat-remote-control.jpg[/img:$uid]

or head

[img:$uid]http://www.comparestoreprices.co.uk/images/he/head-5-piece-sports-bag-set.jpg[/img:$uid]

unique said:

namepeace said:

Indeed.

I remember in the mid-80's, when the Beatles were starting to license out their songs for ads, their fans were in an uproar, as if a part of their innocence had been lost. Amusing in hindsight.

But I wonder how many of Prince's songs are actually a good "fit" for advertisers.

well these guys could use sexy mf in their ad's

[img:$uid]http://www.mf-refrigeration.co.uk/images/top-banner.jpg[/img:$uid]

and these guys could use pussy control

[img:$uid]http://laughingsquid.com/wp-content/uploads/cat-remote-control.jpg[/img:$uid]

or head

[img:$uid]http://www.comparestoreprices.co.uk/images/he/head-5-piece-sports-bag-set.jpg[/img:$uid]

He could use that licensing money to pay off these lawsuits!

namepeace said:

unique said:

well these guys could use sexy mf in their ad's

[img:$uid]http://www.mf-refrigeration.co.uk/images/top-banner.jpg[/img:$uid]

and these guys could use pussy control

[img:$uid]http://laughingsquid.com/wp-content/uploads/cat-remote-control.jpg[/img:$uid]

or head

[img:$uid]http://www.comparestoreprices.co.uk/images/he/head-5-piece-sports-bag-set.jpg[/img:$uid]

He could use that licensing money to pay off these lawsuits!

Good one!

If an artist has a hit, its because the fans supported the artist and bought the music. They bought the music because it touched the fan in a special way and it has some value to them. Artists are called 'sell outs' because they put their songs in ADS because the money they got from the song being a hit was not enough I guess. I am not under the impression that prince needs money. So he is selling out for greed, not need. The problem is that, in doing so, the artists RUINS the song experience for the fan who made the artist rich in the first place. The constant play and attachement to a product cheapens the nastalgia and time capsule effect of the song. Is that any way to treat your fans?

Can't believe we all forgot about starring role on Muppets Tonight.

Raspberry Sobet anyone?

jonylawson said:

i KNEW somebody would mention ray charles

but my post stands....in my mind the dude NEVER sold out

and little red corvette was NEVER used in an ad..he was offered millions for the rights

I haven't read the thread, but "Batman" would like a word with you. That was a straight up sell out. Mostly I agree with you though. The fact that Prince always seems to do things the hard way is a testament to his success and longevity, really.

"and another reason we love prince-he NEVER sold out"

oxy-moron

jonylawson said:

Never whored his music for a soft drink

Never whord his artistry for a quick buck

and often seemed destined to look at bankruptcy than to to pimp his talent

and that is RARE

Now THAT'S^ a damn lie! Prince turn his back on the MPLS sound that he invented when he released the Arould A World In A Day album.

TonyVanDam said:

jonylawson said:

Never whored his music for a soft drink

Never whord his artistry for a quick buck

and often seemed destined to look at bankruptcy than to to pimp his talent

and that is RARE

Now THAT'S^ a damn lie! Prince turn his back on the MPLS sound that he invented when he released the Arould A World In A Day album.

Come on, TVD.

He wasn't looking to make $ when he released that album, because it was (on its face and artistically) a departure from what he'd been doing. A sequel to Purple Rain (flick and record) would have been a MUCH better way to cash in.

namepeace said:

TonyVanDam said:

Now THAT'S^ a damn lie! Prince turn his back on the MPLS sound that he invented when he released the Arould A World In A Day album.

Come on, TVD.

He wasn't looking to make $ when he released that album, because it was (on its face and artistically) a departure from what he'd been doing. A sequel to Purple Rain (flick and record) would have been a MUCH better way to cash in.

For those of us that are fans of synth-driven music, Around The World In A Day was Prince selling out musically, sacrificing his ghetto passes AND street creds in the process.

I stand by my words.

And speak of sequels, if you really want to know what "Purple Rain II" might have sounded, check out Teena Marie's Emerald City album.