if prince did not "sell out" than what was that horrid verizon cell phone add doing on tv? the one with prince mouth full of marbles trying to sing that horrid "guitar" song ... prince also sold out when he stopped writing poetry and started trying to rap because prince thinks he is black and therefore can automatically rap. he also sold out when he started singing about how much money he has and how he can "buy" women and all the other materialistic crap he has .. 3121 was nothing more than an advertisement for his las vegas club .. i would rather hear a prince written song than a prince written advertisement .. prince sold out when he stopped working with artists who challenge him musically because he doesnt want to pay them what they are worth or share the spotlight .. prince sold out when he stopped selling his music in mom and pop record shops and instead made exclusive deals with cheap crap made by underage workers in third world countries stores like target ..

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jonylawson said:

jonylawson said:

i KNEW somebody would mention ray charles

but my post stands....in my mind the dude NEVER sold out

and little red corvette was NEVER used in an ad..he was offered millions for the rights

sure it was. it was the clip from the Sign O the Times' movie. it was shown on TV in a national campaign.

"Baby i'm a Star" was also used in Target ads. (sang by Tina Turner)

What about his Purple Rain Coat Condoms

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Working with Tony M and the Game Boyz was kind of a sell out i think

That's when things started going downhill although he was still great of course

But i can't help but cringe when i see Tony M rap and see the Gameboyz do their stupid 'dancing'

on the 1990/1993 shows

[Edited 9/24/11 7:39am]

He's sold out before. (Even though I hate that term and it's meaning. Unfortunately, in the business, making money = selling out.)

mplsmike said:

What about his Purple Rain Coat Condoms

[img:$uid]http://stereogum.com/img/purpleraincoats.jpg[/img:$uid]

there were purple rain umbrellas too

and if this isn't selling out then wtf is?

[img:$uid]http://www.mysupermarket.co.uk/Images/ExternalImages/ProductsDetailed/32/003132.jpg[/img:$uid]

so much for being a vegan

[img:$uid]http://www.britstore.co.uk/photos/Princes_Tuna_Mayonnaise_Paste_75g.jpg[/img:$uid]

[img:$uid]http://www.britstore.co.uk/phpThumb.php?src=/photos/Princes_Red_Salmon_418g.jpg[/img:$uid]

I dont think a few endorsements or commercials / ads over his 30 + years of entertainment are enough to label him in a negative way as a sell out.

mplsmike said:

I dont think a few endorsements or commercials / ads over his 30 + years of entertainment are enough to label him in a negative way as a sell out.

apart from the song he did for the iceland advert

"so tonight we're gonna shop at iceland and get all our shopping for £19.99 - turkey twizzlers, chicken dinosaurs, prawn rings and icecream as well. if you didn't come for a bargain, don't bother shopping anymore... two thousand zero zero at the check and change left over..."

Man, Prince sold out with the 1979 Prince album. He even said as much that he wanted/needed to have a hit album for WB. He went back to his own deal with Dirty Mind but again had to sell out aka make his sound more universal and accessible with 1999 album and then the big kahuna of "lets get all the comsumers" Purple Rain. Prince been selling out up and down his whole career. And there's NOTHING wrong with it until you start pulling a Lionel Ritchie Dancin On The Ceiling *cough-diamondsnpearls-cough*

The one thing I love is his adherence to his music so close to his heart that WB etc never really had but ne song on some cheap K-Tel compilation. He was almost an instant classic on the level of Neil Young, Dylan etc. That is what's cool in the non sell out issue to me.

unique said:

mplsmike said:

What about his Purple Rain Coat Condoms

[img:$uid]http://stereogum.com/img/purpleraincoats.jpg[/img:$uid]

there were purple rain umbrellas too

and if this isn't selling out then wtf is?

[img:$uid]http://www.mysupermarket.co.uk/Images/ExternalImages/ProductsDetailed/32/003132.jpg[/img:$uid]

so much for being a vegan

[img:$uid]http://www.britstore.co.uk/photos/Princes_Tuna_Mayonnaise_Paste_75g.jpg[/img:$uid]

[img:$uid]http://www.britstore.co.uk/phpThumb.php?src=/photos/Princes_Red_Salmon_418g.jpg[/img:$uid]

[img:$uid]http://www.hollandproducthouse.com/components/com_virtuemart/shop_image/product/LU_Prince_Cake___4bc4ca7d416c3.jpg[/img:$uid]

smoothcriminal12 said:

He's sold out before. (Even though I hate that term and it's meaning. Unfortunately, in the business, making money = selling out.)

I agree.

Why is making money with the music one creates a bad thing? Music is all-present in advertisement. I don't understand why musicians should not compose or handle their music for advertisement.

What moralistic or artistic assumption leads to the conclusion a musician is a 'sell out' when making money with music for advertisement?

When i think sold out i cant help but think of MC Hammer

The guy had cartoons, Dolls, hell he might of even had a "Taco Bell" taco named after him

dJJ said:

smoothcriminal12 said:

He's sold out before. (Even though I hate that term and it's meaning. Unfortunately, in the business, making money = selling out.)

I agree.

Why is making money with the music one creates a bad thing? Music is all-present in advertisement. I don't understand why musicians should not compose or handle their music for advertisement.

What moralistic or artistic assumption leads to the conclusion a musician is a 'sell out' when making money with music for advertisement?

good joke thread

even betta than my 1999 vs MPLSound thing...

other ways he could have sold out:

add for baby wipe: 'soft and wet'

tampons: Push it Up

Starbucks: Star(bucks)fish and Coffee

Visine: 4 The Tears In Your Eyes

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OnlyNDaUsa said:

tampons: Push it Up

mplsmike said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

tampons: Push it Up

or the HOLEly River

I guess Chevy wouldn't need to get any rights to say this as it's only a tip of the hat to Prince, but I always liked it

Really? Imagine that, somebody thinking they are a race which they actually are!

OnlyNDaUsa said:

mplsmike said:

or the HOLEly River

TrevorAyer said:

if prince did not "sell out" than what was that horrid verizon cell phone add doing on tv? the one with prince mouth full of marbles trying to sing that horrid "guitar" song ... prince also sold out when he stopped writing poetry and started trying to rap because prince thinks he is black and therefore can automatically rap. he also sold out when he started singing about how much money he has and how he can "buy" women and all the other materialistic crap he has .. 3121 was nothing more than an advertisement for his las vegas club .. i would rather hear a prince written song than a prince written advertisement .. prince sold out when he stopped working with artists who challenge him musically because he doesnt want to pay them what they are worth or share the spotlight .. prince sold out when he stopped selling his music in mom and pop record shops and instead made exclusive deals with cheap crap made by underage workers in third world countries stores like target ..

[Edited 9/24/11 7:11am]

the most important truth is that when prince was at the peak of his powers after purple rain he could have made a bundle from corporate america if he had got with the program-sing we are the world with quincy & micheal,tone his act down,stay clear of controversy,wait 3 years & release an album similar 2 purple rain and censor what he says so he wouldn't scare off nervous investors. but prince refused to be bossed even when he could have easily banked 10s of millions.maybe its integrity or maybe its stupidity. micheal & madonna sure didnt turn down the money when they were offered it in the 80's. if he made a little change selling out 5,10,20 years removed from his heyday-so what? also & if u asked prince he would tell u he doesn't rap- like james brown he speaks rhythmically.

It always seemed to me the masses came to him whenever the purple stars aligned

TrevorAyer said:

if prince did not "sell out" than what was that horrid verizon cell phone add doing on tv?

I take that as his attempt to change how music is distrbuted. that was in line with how he has been doing things for the last few years.

[Edited 9/24/11 9:31am]

rdhull said:

Prince been selling out up and down his whole career. And there's NOTHING wrong with it

^^ THIS!!

anybody who tries to tell me prince is a sell out gets a one word answer to shut them up....

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AROUNDTHEWORLDINADAY

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Another one you forgot:

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mplsmike said:

What about his Purple Rain Coat Condoms

[img:$uid]http://stereogum.com/img/purpleraincoats.jpg[/img:$uid]

Is this real?????

xLiberiangirl said: