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Reply #30 posted 09/19/11 5:11am

bobbyperu

Prince may sometimes be ridiculed for his looks or his image ( although never as much as Wacko Jacko) but not for mis music. I've heared lots of folks say they acknowledge his talent even if they're not into his music.
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Reply #31 posted 09/19/11 5:15am

bobbyperu

vitriol said:

I can only think of 3 things that make me feel bad:



-the loss of his son.



-the Jehovah embracing (even if he's only an hypocrite).



-his chosen lifestyle, in his ivory tower, with no real contact with the real world. Hence the poor music he's been releasing since 2004.


The first one is feeling bad for him, which I understand.
The other two are you feeling bad because Prince is not what you want him to be.
But I admit you have point with number 3.
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Reply #32 posted 09/19/11 5:17am

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When his son died.

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Reply #33 posted 09/19/11 5:24am

SodaShoes

babyjubilation said:

Do you feel bad because he's ridiculed most of the time about his music..which is all he lives for?

Do you ever get sad because he's really talented but no one outside of prince fans notice him or give him recognition he deserves?

(my friends don't even know who he is eek )

Do you feel bad that he doesn't have a family?

or anything else?

I have compassion for Prince and everyone else in the world. Watching Prince for many years I can kind of see his "Game Plan." I can't remember the song that has the lyric, "You don't know me, U just think that you do." and I know how sad it is to be removed from a close relationship. If I feel bad for Prince at all it is because I feel as though he has tangled himself up with women so much that he could never give all of his heart to one person in a devoted manner. To love Prince would be to love a thousand secrets.

It's an uphill climb to the finish line.
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Reply #34 posted 09/19/11 5:26am

SodaShoes

More or Less, it's the gigolo ribbon that comes with the musician valedictorian ribbon.

It's an uphill climb to the finish line.
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Reply #35 posted 09/19/11 5:43am

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babyjubilation said:

Do you feel bad because he's ridiculed most of the time about his music..which is all he lives for?

Do you ever get sad because he's really talented but no one outside of prince fans notice him or give him recognition he deserves?

(my friends don't even know who he is eek )

Do you feel bad that he doesn't have a family?

or anything else?

I don't believe most of that which you've posted up there is true

I felt 'bad' for Prince 1 time around the GB/Diamonds & Pearls years

I saw how drastically his life changed, loss and when I saw/heard a lot of music from those 2 albums and the 'Get Off?' performance where he had the assless pants... I felt sorry for him.

He didn't seem like Prince anymore

When I hear Money Don't Matter 2Night I feel that

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Reply #36 posted 09/19/11 6:58am

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vitriol said:

I can only think of 3 things that make me feel bad:

-the loss of his son.

-the Jehovah embracing (even if he's only an hypocrite).

-his chosen lifestyle, in his ivory tower, with no real contact with the real world. Hence the poor music he's been releasing since 2004.

That pretty much sums it up. Besides the above, it's difficult to empathise with a Howard Hughes figure wrapped up in their own fantasy world.

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Reply #37 posted 09/19/11 7:01am

Javi

bobbyperu said:

vitriol said:

I can only think of 3 things that make me feel bad:

-the loss of his son.

-the Jehovah embracing (even if he's only an hypocrite).

-his chosen lifestyle, in his ivory tower, with no real contact with the real world. Hence the poor music he's been releasing since 2004.

The first one is feeling bad for him, which I understand. The other two are you feeling bad because Prince is not what you want him to be. But I admit you have point with number 3.

Do you think Prince's isolated lifestyle is to blame for his poor music? If so, it would also have prompted Prince's best music. I think this lifestyle didn't start in 2004...
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Reply #38 posted 09/19/11 7:06am

Javi

OldFriends4Sale said:

babyjubilation said:

Do you feel bad because he's ridiculed most of the time about his music..which is all he lives for?

Do you ever get sad because he's really talented but no one outside of prince fans notice him or give him recognition he deserves?

(my friends don't even know who he is eek )

Do you feel bad that he doesn't have a family?

or anything else?

I don't believe most of that which you've posted up there is true

I felt 'bad' for Prince 1 time around the GB/Diamonds & Pearls years

I saw how drastically his life changed, loss and when I saw/heard a lot of music from those 2 albums and the 'Get Off?' performance where he had the assless pants... I felt sorry for him.

He didn't seem like Prince anymore

When I hear Money Don't Matter 2Night I feel that

It surprises me that you mention Gett Off and Money Don't Matter 2Night. Those of you who are detractors of this album usually mention other moments, especially Tony M and all that.

I love this album, so I can't say I felt bad for him; on the contrary, I felt good because he had made a great record which also brought him commercial success.

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Reply #39 posted 09/19/11 7:33am

Genesia

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I've always felt bad that he didn't get his camel. sad

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Reply #40 posted 09/19/11 7:51am

MacDaddy

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I've always felt bad that he didn't get his camel. sad

lol

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Reply #41 posted 09/19/11 7:56am

Graycap23

Hummmm..............Prince is badass and he knows it.

I'd suggest u put your energy into something/someone else.

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Reply #42 posted 09/19/11 8:14am

OldFriends4Sal
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Javi said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

I don't believe most of that which you've posted up there is true

I felt 'bad' for Prince 1 time around the GB/Diamonds & Pearls years

I saw how drastically his life changed, loss and when I saw/heard a lot of music from those 2 albums and the 'Get Off?' performance where he had the assless pants... I felt sorry for him.

He didn't seem like Prince anymore

When I hear Money Don't Matter 2Night I feel that

It surprises me that you mention Gett Off and Money Don't Matter 2Night. Those of you who are detractors of this album usually mention other moments, especially Tony M and all that.

I love this album, so I can't say I felt bad for him; on the contrary, I felt good because he had made a great record which also brought him commercial success.

No I think the album was good, I was interested. I love Money don't Matter 2Night

But a combination of the GB era & Diamonds & Pearls showed me who drastically his circle/world/relationsips had changed and here was a more 'polished' Prince vs the "homemade" outfits and raw Prince of the 1980's. He seemed very "hollywood" during this time too me

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Reply #43 posted 09/19/11 8:15am

OldFriends4Sal
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Javi said:

bobbyperu said:

The first one is feeling bad for him, which I understand. The other two are you feeling bad because Prince is not what you want him to be. But I admit you have point with number 3.

Do you think Prince's isolated lifestyle is to blame for his poor music? If so, it would also have prompted Prince's best music. I think this lifestyle didn't start in 2004...

Isolation like that can kill creativity

He really started the Paisley Park isolation in 1989- years

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Reply #44 posted 09/19/11 8:19am

2elijah

OldFriends4Sale said:

Javi said:

Do you think Prince's isolated lifestyle is to blame for his poor music? If so, it would also have prompted Prince's best music. I think this lifestyle didn't start in 2004...

Isolation like that can kill creativity

He really started the Paisley Park isolation in 1989- years

Hmmm... I don't know about that. Sometimes isolation can add to creativity. More time to think and put things into perspective. Just my belief. shrug Now as far as 'feeling bad for him', well he's been pretty blessed throughout his lifetime musically, moreso than others, but besides that, I gather he experiences life issues just like every other human being.

With that being said, I moreso 'admire and respect his strength/perseverance' in managing to not allow anyone to pigeon-hole his music or limit his capabilities musically, as well as, his personal right to practice a religion he's comfortable with despite the criticism that he's received, over the years, from some within his fan base.

I do however, think many want to keep his music styles/sounds within the 80s, because that's what they're holding onto/looking to hear instead of embracing his music styles/sounds of the Prince of today; or simply not acknowledging that he's never pigeon-holed his music creatively nor was it ever written in stone that he had to obligate himself to maintaining the same band members from the 80s--I think it's a lot of his fans that try to 'keep him at that place/era' for their own personal reasons. He has always been a musician who experimented with various styles and sounds. He never pigeon-holed his music to the same types (sounds/styles) throughout his music career like other artists have done from back in the day, which is probably why they didn't last as long as Prince. So sometimes I wonder if it is many of his fans limiting/pigeon-holing their expectations of Prince musically.

'Updated' edit

[Edited 9/19/11 11:10am]

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Reply #45 posted 09/19/11 8:26am

bobbyperu

Javi said:

bobbyperu said:

vitriol said:

I can only think of 3 things that make me feel bad:



-the loss of his son.



-the Jehovah embracing (even if he's only an hypocrite).



-his chosen lifestyle, in his ivory tower, with no real contact with the real world. Hence the poor music he's been releasing since 2004.


The first one is feeling bad for him, which I understand.
The other two are you feeling bad because Prince is not what you want him to be.
But I admit you have point with number 3.



Do you think Prince's isolated lifestyle is to blame for his poor music? If so, it would also have prompted Prince's best music. I think this lifestyle didn't start in 2004...

That is true. It's a good question, worth of a thread of its own. Sometimes I do feel Prince has nothing left to write about. But he is such a huge talent that he can still make good music. On Lotusflower I love his guitarplaying more than his songwriting
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Reply #46 posted 09/19/11 8:28am

Graycap23

Javi said:

bobbyperu said:

The first one is feeling bad for him, which I understand. The other two are you feeling bad because Prince is not what you want him to be. But I admit you have point with number 3.

Do you think Prince's isolated lifestyle is to blame for his poor music?

What do u mean by poor? Subject matter? Sound? Style?

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Reply #47 posted 09/19/11 9:29am

babyjubilation

Graycap23 said:

Hummmm..............Prince is badass and he knows it.

I'd suggest u put your energy into something/someone else.

Yeah he is and im sure he knows it

if everyone here did this place wouldn't exist

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Reply #48 posted 09/19/11 9:32am

2elijah

babyjubilation said:

Graycap23 said:

Hummmm..............Prince is badass and he knows it.

I'd suggest u put your energy into something/someone else.

Yeah he is and im sure he knows it

if everyone here did this place wouldn't exist

Yeah but he would because he's still a badass musician/performer.biggrin

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Reply #49 posted 09/19/11 9:47am

MadamGoodnight

Graycap23 said:

Hummmm..............Prince is badass and he knows it.

yeahthat

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Reply #50 posted 09/19/11 9:49am

Javi

Graycap23 said:

Javi said:

Do you think Prince's isolated lifestyle is to blame for his poor music?

What do u mean by poor? Subject matter? Sound? Style?

No, I was answering two posts that stated Prince's isolated lifestyle has prompted an impoverishment of his music. I argued that this isolation began actually a long time ago, and that one can also say that it has caused great music by the man. But the nature of that impoverishment is something the two original posters could explain better.
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Reply #51 posted 09/19/11 9:54am

breese

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1) No, because he's not ridiculed. Most think he is a legend.

2) No, because he gets a lot of attention from millions. Look up attendance at his 2011 concerts.

3) Maybe, but then again I do not know what is going on in his personal life. Married to his music?

4) I felt sympathy and sadness around the time I read about the loss of the baby, Boy George.

Prince is forward thinking. He has a fabulous life. He lives in the present.

Unintentionally mega-funny

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Reply #52 posted 09/19/11 9:54am

Genesia

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breese said:

NiceNBreezy said:

1) No, because he's not ridiculed. Most think he is a legend.

2) No, because he gets a lot of attention from millions. Look up attendance at his 2011 concerts.

3) Maybe, but then again I do not know what is going on in his personal life. Married to his music?

4) I felt sympathy and sadness around the time I read about the loss of the baby, Boy George.

Prince is forward thinking. He has a fabulous life. He lives in the present.

Unintentionally mega-funny

Right? lol

We don’t mourn artists because we knew them. We mourn them because they helped us know ourselves.
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Reply #53 posted 09/19/11 10:02am

Javi

Javi said:

Graycap23 said:

What do u mean by poor? Subject matter? Sound? Style?

No, I was answering two posts that stated Prince's isolated lifestyle has prompted an impoverishment of his music. I argued that this isolation began actually a long time ago, and that one can also say that it has caused great music by the man. But the nature of that impoverishment is something the two original posters could explain better.

Actually, maybe they were thinking about Prince having his head in his ass and not looking to what was happening around him, regarding music, culture, etc.
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Reply #54 posted 09/19/11 10:42am

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I feel for the brotha with regards to his son dying and also I feel for him that he couldn't keep his marriages intact ...

... seems like he's doin' just find other-wise

Peace ... & Stay Funky ...

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Reply #55 posted 09/19/11 10:46am

NDRU

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Maybe watching Graffiti Bridge

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Reply #56 posted 09/19/11 11:16am

blackbob

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Anyone who listens to music and says they don't know who prince is is ignorant...like him or not..he is an important figure in music history...when I was a teen.I at least knew who the important music makers of the 50s and 60s were....prince is one of the ten biggest names in popular music history...your friends need educating.
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Reply #57 posted 09/19/11 1:33pm

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I feel bad for him when he wears shirts with his own over-sized image emblazoned on them. That's just....unsettling. confused

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Reply #58 posted 09/19/11 2:24pm

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I love Prince, but when i sit and think about it, cant say ive ever felt sorry for him, strange but i guess i figure Prince does not want my sympathy nor my worries. Dont think he would liked to be looked at as weak, not that by showing emotion he would be thats just human.

I do wonder sometimes how he feels, is he happy, pleased, sad, angry? whatever ya know. But it often seems that he's been battling himself more than anything else in his life.

Plus he's a millionaire who is gifted beyond beliefs, with many fans/admirers, not 2 mention an influential career thats out-lasted so many others. & also he seems to be incontrol of his lifestyle, and whats on his agenda. He's done so much he's wanted to do (not that these things make everyone happy though)

"How Can I Stand To..Stay Where I Am? Poor Butterfly Who..Dont Understand." P
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Reply #59 posted 09/19/11 2:25pm

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NDRU said:

Maybe watching Graffiti Bridge

The only person I feel sorry for when watching Graffiti Bridge is myself

"How Can I Stand To..Stay Where I Am? Poor Butterfly Who..Dont Understand." P
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