Hey! I was wondering if I can get a little bit of help from the purple statistic elders concerning a college paper. I know, kinda cheesy, but I'm going for it. I'm prertty knowledgeable on his music, but when it comes to memorizing something like statistics over a period of time, its kinda hard. I would love to re-research myself but I left my DMSR book at home when transferring to Purdue for school (thought I wouldn't need it...).

So I'm writing a broad outline concerning what I consider three broad themes in Prince's music, which are romance (including lust), spirituality, and partying. Not gonna depend on google or wiki at all due to knowing real data collected by Per Nilsen. So I was wondering if there were any facts on any of the three subjects (percentages, rates, etc etc) that yall could throw out there? Any help would much appreciated

Don't forget wacko pseudo-spiritual, quasi-political rantings. 99%.

Genesia said:

What kind of crappy college do you go to? Our civilization is doomed.

I tried this in college 15 years ago. They told me to go fuck myself. It was a good college

pretty sure purdue is a good university

SEX (or LUST), LOVE, GOD

They are the three central themes. Mixing the sacred and the profane is also one of the major themes in Prince's music.

errant said:

Genesia said:

What kind of crappy college do you go to? Our civilization is doomed.

I tried this in college 15 years ago. They told me to go fuck myself. It was a good college

Clearly.

I also can't believe someone in college is in here asking people to do his homework for him. Really?

How is he going to do his attributions? I can just see the footnotes now...

1. errant. College Paper - (3 broad themes in Prince Music). prince.org 9/9/11

[Edited 9/9/11 16:58pm]

TheFreakerFantastic said:

SEX (or LUST), LOVE, GOD

They are the three central themes. Mixing the sacred and the profane is also one of the major themes in Prince's music.

where do you fit in the bit about the music industry being evil? because that's replaced at least one of the three. or are we just sticking with the classic years?

errant said:

TheFreakerFantastic said:

SEX (or LUST), LOVE, GOD

They are the three central themes. Mixing the sacred and the profane is also one of the major themes in Prince's music.

where do you fit in the bit about the music industry being evil? because that's replaced at least one of the three. or are we just sticking with the classic years?

Ah-ah, that woud fit if we were talking about Prince's life but we are talking his music which doesn't really make significant reference to his battles with record companies..

Examine the mans music chronologically and see how the lyrics progress through these stages

1. Naivety and the being in love (Really Lust) 1976-1979

2. Lust (Sexual profanity and libido) 1980 -83

3. Love (Actual desire for love/acceptance) Purple Rain

4. Relationship Struggles/Spiritual Love - 1985/86

5. Commitment/ longevity of Relationships SOTT/Lovesexy Period

6. Devolution (After 1988 Prince's music was no longer in the forefront of lyrics or love) many songs except a few ballads were about sex and partying and little else.

7. Use of ballads

Musical Evolution like this should be taught first, a great assessment paper would be "Critics say that Prince lost his edge in defining popular music after 1988, examine evidence to the agreement with or opposition to this statement, use any literature about Prince and actual musical examples as evidence to back up your hypothesis. You will be assessed on how well you create your argument in defence or oposition to this statement.

Genesia said:

errant said:

I tried this in college 15 years ago. They told me to go fuck myself. It was a good college

Clearly.

I also can't believe someone in college is in here asking people to do his homework for him. Really?

How is he going to do his attributions? I can just see the footnotes now...

1. errant. College Paper - (3 broad themes in Prince Music). prince.org 9/9/11

[Edited 9/9/11 16:58pm]

Ummmm, no I'm a chick sweetheart. I go to Purdue University which has the top engineering program in the world. Also, I'm not asking anyone to do shit for me but offer me some real statistics from the DMSR book since I was "smart" enought to leave my copy at home.

Edit: removed flame - Langebleu, Moderator

Now, on to more positive things, I managed to get some help from my Prince DVD box (something I did bring) which includes Glory Years and the 2009 french dvd. Clearly I had needed sources to cite from, so I guess these will be my two. And thanks to those who tried to help Much appreciated.

Adorecream said:

Examine the mans music chronologically and see how the lyrics progress through these stages

1. Naivety and the being in love (Really Lust) 1976-1979

2. Lust (Sexual profanity and libido) 1980 -83

3. Love (Actual desire for love/acceptance) Purple Rain

4. Relationship Struggles/Spiritual Love - 1985/86

5. Commitment/ longevity of Relationships SOTT/Lovesexy Period

6. Devolution (After 1988 Prince's music was no longer in the forefront of lyrics or love) many songs except a few ballads were about sex and partying and little else.

7. Use of ballads

Musical Evolution like this should be taught first, a great assessment paper would be "Critics say that Prince lost his edge in defining popular music after 1988, examine evidence to the agreement with or opposition to this statement, use any literature about Prince and actual musical examples as evidence to back up your hypothesis. You will be assessed on how well you create your argument in defence or oposition to this statement.

I won't use exactly what you had posted due to plagiarism issues, but I'll keep it in mind and be sure to cite you in my references (real name pm'd?) If u wanna pm me your email, I'll be sure to email you a copy of the final outline ( no essay was assigned, just an outline )

[Edited 9/10/11 6:57am]

^ Ecstasy you've got some great rare Prince pics on your Picasa page, can u add those too?

ecstasy said:

Genesia said:

Clearly.

I also can't believe someone in college is in here asking people to do his homework for him. Really?

How is he going to do his attributions? I can just see the footnotes now...

1. errant. College Paper - (3 broad themes in Prince Music). prince.org 9/9/11

Ummmm, no I'm a chick sweetheart. I go to Purdue University which has the top engineering program in the world. Also, I'm not asking anyone to do shit for me but offer me some real statistics from the DMSR book since I was "smart" enought to leave my copy at home.

Edit: removed flame - Langebleu, Moderator

Now, on to more positive things, I managed to get some help from my Prince DVD box (something I did bring) which includes Glory Years and the 2009 french dvd. Clearly I had needed sources to cite from, so I guess these will be my two. And thanks to those who tried to help Much appreciated.

Edit: removed flame - Langebleu, Moderator

TheFreakerFantastic said:

^ Ecstasy you've got some great rare Prince pics on your Picasa page, can u add those too?

Haha, u saw that? Good I'm gald you've enjoyed it. But let's see, I could use those in my presentation when I deliver my speech. Thanks to you I'm going to make a slide show! THe pictures would correlate to my subjects discussed in my writing. Oooo and even show a diagram of all his albums over the years, each album fading in one by one on the screen. Haha, thanks for the idea, more work, but brilliant

Threads like this are painful reminders of how I clung to my Prince hobby in the early 90s when everyone except me knew he was wack.

ecstasy said:

TheFreakerFantastic said:

^ Ecstasy you've got some great rare Prince pics on your Picasa page, can u add those too?

Haha, u saw that? Good I'm gald you've enjoyed it. But let's see, I could use those in my presentation when I deliver my speech. Thanks to you I'm going to make a slide show! THe pictures would correlate to my subjects discussed in my writing. Oooo and even show a diagram of all his albums over the years, each album fading in one by one on the screen. Haha, thanks for the idea, more work, but brilliant

That's ok....focus the most into your written work though as they can't often give marks for pictures, but they may mark you higher for effort in presenting them too. A lot of those pics from the Rick James tour look rare, haven't seen them before...!

[Edited 9/10/11 8:16am]

ecstasy said:

Adorecream said:

Examine the mans music chronologically and see how the lyrics progress through these stages

1. Naivety and the being in love (Really Lust) 1976-1979

2. Lust (Sexual profanity and libido) 1980 -83

3. Love (Actual desire for love/acceptance) Purple Rain

4. Relationship Struggles/Spiritual Love - 1985/86

5. Commitment/ longevity of Relationships SOTT/Lovesexy Period

6. Devolution (After 1988 Prince's music was no longer in the forefront of lyrics or love) many songs except a few ballads were about sex and partying and little else.

7. Use of ballads

Musical Evolution like this should be taught first, a great assessment paper would be "Critics say that Prince lost his edge in defining popular music after 1988, examine evidence to the agreement with or opposition to this statement, use any literature about Prince and actual musical examples as evidence to back up your hypothesis. You will be assessed on how well you create your argument in defence or oposition to this statement.

I won't use exactly what you had posted due to plagiarism issues, but I'll keep it in mind and be sure to cite you in my references (real name pm'd?) If u wanna pm me your email, I'll be sure to email you a copy of the final outline ( no essay was assigned, just an outline )

[Edited 9/10/11 6:57am]

If you are serious, I have to warn you I have very exotic name, but if you want iit, I will send it privately

Adorecream said:

ecstasy said:

I won't use exactly what you had posted due to plagiarism issues, but I'll keep it in mind and be sure to cite you in my references (real name pm'd?) If u wanna pm me your email, I'll be sure to email you a copy of the final outline ( no essay was assigned, just an outline )

[Edited 9/10/11 6:57am]

If you are serious, I have to warn you I have very exotic name, but if you want iit, I will send it privately

Yup, go ahead

ecstasy said:

Hey! I was wondering if I can get a little bit of help from the purple statistic elders concerning a college paper. I know, kinda cheesy, but I'm going for it. I'm prertty knowledgeable on his music, but when it comes to memorizing something like statistics over a period of time, its kinda hard. I would love to re-research myself but I left my DMSR book at home when transferring to Purdue for school (thought I wouldn't need it...).

So I'm writing a broad outline concerning what I consider three broad themes in Prince's music, which are romance (including lust), spirituality, and partying. Not gonna depend on google or wiki at all due to knowing real data collected by Per Nilsen. So I was wondering if there were any facts on any of the three subjects (percentages, rates, etc etc) that yall could throw out there? Any help would much appreciated

Why don't you consider taking romance and spirituality and replacing them by a higher level with God/Love? Romance and spirituality are threads of God/Love and can then be subsets of God/Love. I have never seen someone that is in the secular world that lives God/Love like Prince does. God is Love, Love is God, and Love God have been messages imbedded in his work.

Truth/Honesty is also a key theme in Prince's music - knowing thyself seems to be key to him. I don't see another artist that is truer to their lyrics and music than Prince. Listen/watch the MTV interview from Under the Cherry Moon era. Listen to what he has to say at the end of that MTV interview about the music.

I have experienced that some who really dig in his lyrics can uncover truths that he/she (the listener) never expected and may not have even been inteneded when originaly penned.

Timelessness - is this a theme? All age groups go to see Prince and listen to the music. The music and the experience feels timeless to me also - like we will still listen and learn from the music years and years from now. Or, should that be dimensions and dimensions here-2-4?

[Edited 9/10/11 19:49pm]

errant said:

TheFreakerFantastic said:

SEX (or LUST), LOVE, GOD

They are the three central themes. Mixing the sacred and the profane is also one of the major themes in Prince's music.

where do you fit in the bit about the music industry being evil? because that's replaced at least one of the three. or are we just sticking with the classic years?

You are both right. The classic years are defined by LOVE, SEX and GOD.

Then all of a sudden it became all about RELIGION, RACE and RECORD COMPANIES

sounds like a great assignment 2 do

hope u enjoy doing this paper!!!

raddahone said:

ecstasy said:

Hey! I was wondering if I can get a little bit of help from the purple statistic elders concerning a college paper. I know, kinda cheesy, but I'm going for it. I'm prertty knowledgeable on his music, but when it comes to memorizing something like statistics over a period of time, its kinda hard. I would love to re-research myself but I left my DMSR book at home when transferring to Purdue for school (thought I wouldn't need it...).

So I'm writing a broad outline concerning what I consider three broad themes in Prince's music, which are romance (including lust), spirituality, and partying. Not gonna depend on google or wiki at all due to knowing real data collected by Per Nilsen. So I was wondering if there were any facts on any of the three subjects (percentages, rates, etc etc) that yall could throw out there? Any help would much appreciated

Why don't you consider taking romance and spirituality and replacing them by a higher level with God/Love? Romance and spirituality are threads of God/Love and can then be subsets of God/Love. I have never seen someone that is in the secular world that lives God/Love like Prince does. God is Love, Love is God, and Love God have been messages imbedded in his work.

Truth/Honesty is also a key theme in Prince's music - knowing thyself seems to be key to him. I don't see another artist that is truer to their lyrics and music than Prince. Listen/watch the MTV interview from Under the Cherry Moon era. Listen to what he has to say at the end of that MTV interview about the music.

I have experienced that some who really dig in his lyrics can uncover truths that he/she (the listener) never expected and may not have even been inteneded when originaly penned.

Timelessness - is this a theme? All age groups go to see Prince and listen to the music. The music and the experience feels timeless to me also - like we will still listen and learn from the music years and years from now. Or, should that be dimensions and dimensions here-2-4?

[Edited 9/10/11 19:49pm]

Yes, I just finished watching that MTV interview yesterday from the TV Appearances collection, but didn't get a chance to clearly hear the end b/c of note taking and adding mroe ideas to the outline after tuning out once the french costar started speaking...

But yes, LoveSexy (from mentioning the famous phrase "Love Is God, God Is Love") is also stated as supporting evidence under my spirituality main point.

Since it is beginning of year, I also have to remember that I'm going to be limited when I write and present my speech unfortunately, where I cannot delve deeper into meanings, sayings, propsed philosophies, and lyrics only because it's a 3-5 minute speech (impossible for me). But right now I'm going to listen more to the LoveSexy album so I can have a better idea and concrete evidence alongside that phrase

And I didn't mention that I couldn't just include a main point of sex b/c I have one of those professors that's still ignorant of the "real-world" where its actually okkay to talk about sex... im smh too, so that's why I've chosen those three themes.

ecstasy said:

raddahone said:

Why don't you consider taking romance and spirituality and replacing them by a higher level with God/Love? Romance and spirituality are threads of God/Love and can then be subsets of God/Love. I have never seen someone that is in the secular world that lives God/Love like Prince does. God is Love, Love is God, and Love God have been messages imbedded in his work.

Truth/Honesty is also a key theme in Prince's music - knowing thyself seems to be key to him. I don't see another artist that is truer to their lyrics and music than Prince. Listen/watch the MTV interview from Under the Cherry Moon era. Listen to what he has to say at the end of that MTV interview about the music.

I have experienced that some who really dig in his lyrics can uncover truths that he/she (the listener) never expected and may not have even been inteneded when originaly penned.

Timelessness - is this a theme? All age groups go to see Prince and listen to the music. The music and the experience feels timeless to me also - like we will still listen and learn from the music years and years from now. Or, should that be dimensions and dimensions here-2-4?

[Edited 9/10/11 19:49pm]

Yes, I just finished watching that MTV interview yesterday from the TV Appearances collection, but didn't get a chance to clearly hear the end b/c of note taking and adding mroe ideas to the outline after tuning out once the french costar started speaking...

But yes, LoveSexy (from mentioning the famous phrase "Love Is God, God Is Love") is also stated as supporting evidence under my spirituality main point.

Since it is beginning of year, I also have to remember that I'm going to be limited when I write and present my speech unfortunately, where I cannot delve deeper into meanings, sayings, propsed philosophies, and lyrics only because it's a 3-5 minute speech (impossible for me). But right now I'm going to listen more to the LoveSexy album so I can have a better idea and concrete evidence alongside that phrase

And I didn't mention that I couldn't just include a main point of sex b/c I have one of those professors that's still ignorant of the "real-world" where its actually okkay to talk about sex... im smh too, so that's why I've chosen those three themes.

Here it is...the last part of the innerview on MTV...

Question - What are your religious beliefs?

"I believe in God. There is only one God. And I believe in an afterworld. Hopefully we'll all see it. I have been accused of a lot of things contrary to this, and I just want people to know that I'm very sincere in my beliefs. I pray every night, and I don't ask for much. I just say, "Thank you" all the time. "

Genesia said:

ecstasy said:

Ummmm, no I'm a chick sweetheart. I go to Purdue University which has the top engineering program in the world. Also, I'm not asking anyone to do shit for me but offer me some real statistics from the DMSR book since I was "smart" enought to leave my copy at home.

Edit: removed flame - Langebleu, moderator

Now, on to more positive things, I managed to get some help from my Prince DVD box (something I did bring) which includes Glory Years and the 2009 french dvd. Clearly I had needed sources to cite from, so I guess these will be my two. And thanks to those who tried to help Much appreciated.

Edit: removed flame - Langebleu, moderator

Edit: removed flame - Langebleu, moderator

[Edited 9/11/11 10:11am]

Because it is a short assignment, you may not have time to check out the book, The Lyrics of Prince: A Literary Look at a Creative, Musical Poet, Storyteller, and Philosopher, because it only discusses and analyzes Prince's lyrical themes and movements. Some of the themes addressed are sex as a metphor for human longing and nerosis, heoric individualism, moving from indvidual to community concerns, moving from multicultural to afrocentric, and the growth from lust to love.

raddahone said:

ecstasy said:

Yes, I just finished watching that MTV interview yesterday from the TV Appearances collection, but didn't get a chance to clearly hear the end b/c of note taking and adding mroe ideas to the outline after tuning out once the french costar started speaking...

But yes, LoveSexy (from mentioning the famous phrase "Love Is God, God Is Love") is also stated as supporting evidence under my spirituality main point.

Since it is beginning of year, I also have to remember that I'm going to be limited when I write and present my speech unfortunately, where I cannot delve deeper into meanings, sayings, propsed philosophies, and lyrics only because it's a 3-5 minute speech (impossible for me). But right now I'm going to listen more to the LoveSexy album so I can have a better idea and concrete evidence alongside that phrase

And I didn't mention that I couldn't just include a main point of sex b/c I have one of those professors that's still ignorant of the "real-world" where its actually okkay to talk about sex... im smh too, so that's why I've chosen those three themes.

Here it is...the last part of the innerview on MTV...

Question - What are your religious beliefs?

"I believe in God. There is only one God. And I believe in an afterworld. Hopefully we'll all see it. I have been accused of a lot of things contrary to this, and I just want people to know that I'm very sincere in my beliefs. I pray every night, and I don't ask for much. I just say, "Thank you" all the time. "

Yes I remember this, but I didn't get anything from it other than whats stated, u know, in a lyrical sense as proof. But now that I think about it, I could source this.

Omgosh, that's basically what I needed, Is that the book where the cover is cartoonish? I never heard any noise on it here when I first found it out a year ago so I never got it. Hmm. I'm going to post my rough outline here so yall can see what I'm doing so far

FuzzyWitch said:

sounds like a great assignment 2 do

hope u enjoy doing this paper!!!

Thanks! I'm enjoying it, but it is tedious