KCOOLMUZIQ said:

Spinlight said:

You're so boring.

You have zero knowledge about drug use and its effects. You cannot fathom "grey area" or any concepts like that. Prince is either abstinent (your dream) or an abhorrent addict (your nightmare). Here on Earth where the rest of us reside, we all know that drug use isn't always one or the other.

Oh. And "Don't Play Me" wasn't on "the mega successful independently released 3 disk Crystal Ball project".

I know very well first hand about drug use. I have had relatives & friends that were addicts. Plus lost 2 close friends a few years ago to it. I also grew up in the 80's when crack took over LA. Plus work in the drug filled entertainment Industry, witnessed first hand some entertainers under the influence.

U do not know me @ all. So don't try 2 put me in ur little box. I wish u would stop responding to me. U call me boring but ur delusional & show signs of having b-po-ar d-s--d-r. I'm going 2 ask U again nicely. Don't respond to me anymore! Our hateness 4 eachother has already been established here. As U said b4(the only thing U said that makes since) "Don't get urself kicked off this site 4 good".

By the way"The Truth" was a bonus disk included with "The mega successful independently released 3 disk Crystal Ball PROJECT"...

[Edited 8/2/11 15:33pm]

Hey kool, don't let Spin get you down, seems to always reply with bitter, angry posts to everyone. It's really sad but you know what they say about a few rotten apples. I enjoy reading your comments, Kool

SeventeenDayze said:

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

I know very well first hand about drug use. I have had relatives & friends that were addicts. Plus lost 2 close friends a few years ago to it. I also grew up in the 80's when crack took over LA. Plus work in the drug filled entertainment Industry, witnessed first hand some entertainers under the influence.

U do not know me @ all. So don't try 2 put me in ur little box. I wish u would stop responding to me. U call me boring but ur delusional & show signs of having b-po-ar d-s--d-r. I'm going 2 ask U again nicely. Don't respond to me anymore! Our hateness 4 eachother has already been established here. As U said b4(the only thing U said that makes since) "Don't get urself kicked off this site 4 good".

By the way"The Truth" was a bonus disk included with "The mega successful independently released 3 disk Crystal Ball PROJECT"...

[Edited 8/2/11 15:33pm]

Hey kool, don't let Spin get you down, seems to always reply with bitter, angry posts to everyone. It's really sad but you know what they say about a few rotten apples. I enjoy reading your comments, Kool

You coulda sent this message in a PM, but instead you chose to act out like a spoiled child. Hop off.

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

Spinlight said:

You're so boring.

You have zero knowledge about drug use and its effects. You cannot fathom "grey area" or any concepts like that. Prince is either abstinent (your dream) or an abhorrent addict (your nightmare). Here on Earth where the rest of us reside, we all know that drug use isn't always one or the other.

Oh. And "Don't Play Me" wasn't on "the mega successful independently released 3 disk Crystal Ball project".

I know very well first hand about drug use. I have had relatives & friends that were addicts. Plus lost 2 close friends a few years ago to it. I also grew up in the 80's when crack took over LA. Plus work in the drug filled entertainment Industry, witnessed first hand some entertainers under the influence.

U do not know me @ all. So don't try 2 put me in ur little box. I wish u would stop responding to me. U call me boring but ur delusional & show signs of having b-po-ar d-s--d-r. I'm going 2 ask U again nicely. Don't respond to me anymore! Our hateness 4 eachother has already been established here. As U said b4(the only thing U said that makes since) "Don't get urself kicked off this site 4 good".

By the way"The Truth" was a bonus disk included with "The mega successful independently released 3 disk Crystal Ball PROJECT"...

[Edited 8/2/11 15:33pm]

I don't care what fictional qualifications you pull out of your hat. It's the internet. The same venue that allows you to fag out about Prince all day, creating a ridiculous spectacle of yourself by creepily mimicking his behavior.

Plenty of people use coke all the time and it doesn't adversely affect their looks. In fact, the cocaine flows like water in the entertainment business and you'd be more hard pressed to find someone who wasn't doing it than someone who was. Has Prince done coke? You don't fucking know, so to say with such authority that Michael jackson was out to stunt Prince is just bullshit and absurd.

SeventeenDayze said:

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

I know very well first hand about drug use. I have had relatives & friends that were addicts. Plus lost 2 close friends a few years ago to it. I also grew up in the 80's when crack took over LA. Plus work in the drug filled entertainment Industry, witnessed first hand some entertainers under the influence.

U do not know me @ all. So don't try 2 put me in ur little box. I wish u would stop responding to me. U call me boring but ur delusional & show signs of having b-po-ar d-s--d-r. I'm going 2 ask U again nicely. Don't respond to me anymore! Our hateness 4 eachother has already been established here. As U said b4(the only thing U said that makes since) "Don't get urself kicked off this site 4 good".

By the way"The Truth" was a bonus disk included with "The mega successful independently released 3 disk Crystal Ball PROJECT"...

[Edited 8/2/11 15:33pm]

Hey kool, don't let Spin get you down, seems to always reply with bitter, angry posts to everyone. It's really sad but you know what they say about a few rotten apples. I enjoy reading your comments, Kool

Thx 4 that SeventeenDayze!

I keep forgetting some people on here are so unhappy with there own life's, that they don't even like when U show adoration 4 another human being.

This whole thread started out as ridiculous, and has devolved to muckraking. "Like an Eskimo, CHILL" lol

Orionforever said:

IF Prince was doing so many UPPER drugs as you all seem to assume he probably NOT be here any more...

My brother went through MANY years of drinking, coke and partying and it has taken a huge toll on him.

He is 53 but could easily pass for 63. He has lost most of his hair, his teeth are bad, he is

pudgy, rutty skin , bad skin color....etc etc....

I think Prince gets "High" off his music and the crowds excite him and push him to go.....

Yes, maybe he is guilty of some "Five Hour Engery" drinks or a bit too much caffine.. but I really doubt he was on heavy drugs like Coke.............

I have no doubt he may of tried a bit of weed in his early years as tons of kids did from that time.. but knowing what I know of bad drugs.. I would say NO WAY!!!

Yes no doubt..That is his high now..And obviously no one likes aking mistakes on stage but I reckon he HATES it..full control and now that he is this age he realises this will be less likely if he isn't on anything ( not that he ever was perhaps lol)..

But I would like to think he was a huge james brown fan who saw all his shows and realised that in the 80's and near the end in a way, he was fucking up his reputation by making uncharacteristic mistakes...Prince didn't wana go down that road..Maybe it was a wake up call?

But people can be on drugs and get through it..Look at keith richards..Granted he don't look great, but he don't look awful either...All depends on the genes too and if you have surgery which I a sure prince has had...But you never know again.

I am just glad he will god willing be able to eclipse or equal james brown of performing into his 70's and because of his lifestyle now and fitness etc, be able to raise the bar over jb at that age..That is my guess of what will happen...James Brown has set the bar for a solo performer to perform that style of show into old age..No one has come close yet..Ok sammy davis, but his style of show was old school and nothing like james brown who was a blue print for a new type of show.

I waffle ...sorry!

Ok

Let's lock this puppy up now.

I sometimes have doubts on whether Prince has done "Coke" or other kinds of drugs. BUT I definitely don't rule out the possibility. In fact, it's obviously something that was apart of his life in some aspect, especially when you look at the "Lovesexy" era. Most of his friends spoke of his trip with ecstasy...And that has been confirmed. But I think in the 90's until Now he abolished it completely. I don't see it being apart of his life now, he seems to be high on other things. I always thought it was interesting in view of Lovesexy (One of my favorite era's) when someone said it could also mean love ecstasy! hahaha..The coincidences are enormous when it comes to his association to drugs. Haha

Spinlight said:

SeventeenDayze said:

Hey kool, don't let Spin get you down, seems to always reply with bitter, angry posts to everyone. It's really sad but you know what they say about a few rotten apples. I enjoy reading your comments, Kool

You coulda sent this message in a PM, but instead you chose to act out like a spoiled child. Hop off.

You could have sent this message in a PM, but instead you chose to act out like a spoiled Spinlight. Hop off. LOL!!!!

SeventeenDayze said:

Spinlight said:

You coulda sent this message in a PM, but instead you chose to act out like a spoiled child. Hop off.

You could have sent this message in a PM, but instead you chose to act out like a spoiled Spinlight. Hop off. LOL!!!!

After reading through this thread, It has occurred to me that some of you are so engulfed in Prince's semen that it is friggin' sad. None of you can confirm or deny whether or not Prince did drugs. So therefore, you can't defend him on it, PERIOD [blood ]! We're all fans of his music/image, but pass that point, we have no clue what the guy is truly like outside of his "act".

Being that I only know who/where I am 24/7, I can only defend myself. Everyone else though.....is suspect until proved otherwise.

I think what we're all missing is that there isn't some universal indicator that Prince clearly proves was on X, Coke or drunk in any of the bootleg vids. Trust me, I've had my experiences with "chemistry" and have had many friends and relatives who took it all too far and it's tough to just look at someone's actions, especially a master media manipulator and performer like Prince, and say for sure that he's high or intoxicated. Now to be honest there have been several live video and audio recordings recordings where I thought this joker has gotta be high on somethin' (see DMSR from the 1983 1st Ave DVD for instance).

So in the end really, honestly and truthfully we don't know if he was high or just being weird for effect. Opinions make for good discussions of course but the truth that we'll never know is probably somewhere between Prince never ever having had a drink or drug and falling victim to Extacy and Cocaine excess...

P is just a wierd cat, we all know that.

Especially back in the day...he behaved wildly many times on and off

stage,,,especially on...erratic...sexual...doesnt mean he was on drugs.

Remember the Sheila E love bizarre performance? He made a bunch of faces and

acted all crazy....that dont mean he was coked up!

alphachannel said:

I think what we're all missing is that there isn't some universal indicator that Prince clearly proves was on X, Coke or drunk in any of the bootleg vids. Trust me, I've had my experiences with "chemistry" and have had many friends and relatives who took it all too far and it's tough to just look at someone's actions, especially a master media manipulator and performer like Prince, and say for sure that he's high or intoxicated. Now to be honest there have been several live video and audio recordings recordings where I thought this joker has gotta be high on somethin' (see DMSR from the 1983 1st Ave DVD for instance).

So in the end really, honestly and truthfully we don't know if he was high or just being weird for effect. Opinions make for good discussions of course but the truth that we'll never know is probably somewhere between Prince never ever having had a drink or drug and falling victim to Extacy and Cocaine excess...

Damn good to see constructive posts that enable a debate

Prince is on his own shit. He should bottle it up and sell it.

He turns them out and makes them go batty afterwards. They ain't never the same after that Purple.

Spinlight said:

jaawwnn said:

Maybe he was ill?

or someone had just beaten him up?

Hey, they're actually more likely than a coke habit.

And just what, pray, makes those 2 things "actually more likely" than a coke habit? There were silos-full of cocaine going around Prince's camp from the getgo. This has been confirmed by band members, tour managers, tour personnel, co-writers, etc. Whether or not Prince partook in any of it is the only mystery and sometimes the mystery is not so mysterious.

He has written about his own alcohol abuse in "The Holy River", has referred to smoking herb in at least 1 song - "Now" (while also mimicking smoking from a bong on the L41A special), and has made references to Ecstacy in "Superfunkycalifragisexy"...

Incidentally, his mention of heroin abuse ("The Love We Make") is the only time he really specifically talked about the ravages of any kind of substance abuse.

Spinlight - what about Pop Life???

What U putting in ur nose?

Is that where ur money goes?

The river of addiction flows

U think its hot

but there won't be no water

when that fire blows

Oh and another thing...

It really winds me up the way people go on about drugs - they are evil, they are bad etc etc. Look at the legal drugs if u want evil & bad - did u know nicotine hits the brain quicker than heroin whch means it is more instantly addictive..

And don't get me on to alcohol - I have yet to meet a 'happy' drunk.

My opinion is that anything is bad in excess - have u seen an alcoholic? Just cause the effects may take a little longer to show than meth say - doesn't mean it is not as destructive. And if u like ur cream cakes and burgers and just gorge on them - well....

The only difference is that alcohol and cigarettes are regulated, even if the costs to the NHS (blessed to have a free health service over here in the UK!) are high, the taxes the government get are exponential. Imagine if these 2 weren't regulated - oh yeah illegal alcohol getting more prevalent now and killing people. If drugs were regulated in the same way I doubt we would get as many 'problems', I mean Queen Victoria regularly took opium - and she seemed to function pretty darn well. Oh and don't say u can function ok if u are a smoker or drinker - just cause u don't go round hugging people whilst at work doesn't mean u are 100% focused on the task at hand!

I think it is very easy to criticise illegal drugs and blame them on peoples actions - 'oh it was the drugs me lord that made me beat up that old lady for 10 pence' but its not the gun that kills people its the person pulling the trigger.

The media has a big part to play in all this too - all too eager to shock and horry everybody and we, like gullable little puppies, lap it up. Think people - we humans have been blessed with the function to think and it seems to me nowadays nobody is thinking and it makes me sad.

Timmy84 said:

I don't think Prince ever snorted that stuff but he did have periods where he was either drunk or was on a trip from some hallucinogenic drug. I think the former could explain why he appeared to be "out of it" at the James Brown event.

Man, I love the idea that Prince has "tripped". Even if he only did it once, just knowing that he's gone their makes me smile.

Let's not forget a lot of "anti-drug" people have been addicted to painkillers, and because it was "written by a doctor" made it ok.

Maybe Prince just started getting some sleep. Maybe he has experimented with drugs, just to see what they'd do, not because he felt he needed it.

As far as that footage goes at the JB show - it does look like Prince was put on the spot, but I don't think Michael was thinking about it in a malicious way. They were already rivals by then, but it was more like "if I can get up here and pay my respects, so can he".