Alexandernvrmind said:

Yep people have such a sense of entitlement... you can already read the comments calling Prince stupid.

I read that shit and thought Prince is right. We do need boundaries... we don't live in a world where anything goes and everything is ok. There are consequences for our actions.

The United States is such a fucking mess right now politically, culturally, religiously, socially, etc...

Everyone at each other throats.... Chaos and Disorder everywhere... Look at the responses to an article that we don't even know that it’s true. A Prince board no less

Too many of you want Prince to still act he is 20 years old wearing high heeled boots and singing about bangin his sister like some cat in heat

Let this dude do his thing or bounce... I have no idea why most of you even post on this board with the rude and obscene things that many of you say about him.

I understood exactly what Prince was talking about. Some of you need to get out more… there was nothing negative or stupid or foolish about his comments.

The reaction to them without the kind of serious introspection they deserve is disgusting

muleFunk said:

NuPwrSoul said:

damage control?

Very possible.

What disturbs me is people take what they see on the web as gospel. It's to the point that everything is taken literally or out of context.

Then the public makes a mountain out of a molehill. In the grand scheme of things regardless to his point or what was said or meant this is small.

Good to see you are still around to bring balance to the Force !

Anyone reading the "originally placed" article thoroughly and with perhaps a slight analyitical view would have noticed it was contradictory, pieced together and subjective. That's why I was interested in the shirt. Artikel wasn't worth the time reading it.

The bigger scare is that people will believe anything written (true or not) on the internet as absolute and then vigorously defend what they've written no matter how error-ridden it is. That is much more dangerous, people need to think first and ask rational questions.

LOVEVERY1 said:

Actually Prince (has) met in person, face to face,

numerous Muslim women, men and children.

[Edited 6/24/11 19:24pm]

Well goody for him, I've met numerous Muslims too...some are personal friends, so what's your point?

sweething said:

muleFunk said:

Very possible.

What disturbs me is people take what they see on the web as gospel. It's to the point that everything is taken literally or out of context.

Then the public makes a mountain out of a molehill. In the grand scheme of things regardless to his point or what was said or meant this is small.

Good to see you are still around to bring balance to the Force !

Anyone reading the "originally placed" article thoroughly and with perhaps a slight analyitical view would have noticed it was contradictory, pieced together and subjective. That's why I was interested in the shirt. Artikel wasn't worth the time reading it.

The bigger scare is that people will believe anything written (true or not) on the internet as absolute and then vigorously defend what they've written no matter how error-ridden it is. That is much more dangerous, people need to think first and ask rational questions.

Prince is partly responsible for this by his refusal to allow his interviews to be recorded.

It gives him wiggle room--plausible deniability so he (or more importantly his fans) can blame the interviewer for the crazy shit he says. He is not the most eloquent in expressing himself on world affairs, politics, or matters like that in interviews--just go look at the Tavis Smiley interview and see his discussion of chemtrails, etc.

When it comes to music however, he knows what he is talking about... it's clear he needs to stay in his lane. Or read/study (not just the Bible)/explore real life in the real world before commenting on it.

23 pages of this shows just how gullible people really are to the media and their crap after knowin how it can be . Now some ppl are after reading Dr Funkenberry's version. I wonder wat the reaction would've been if Dr Funk's version was told first...then the Guardian version after I can only imagine!

Whatever u think...is true

sweething said:

muleFunk said:

Very possible.

What disturbs me is people take what they see on the web as gospel. It's to the point that everything is taken literally or out of context.

Then the public makes a mountain out of a molehill. In the grand scheme of things regardless to his point or what was said or meant this is small.

Good to see you are still around to bring balance to the Force !

Anyone reading the "originally placed" article thoroughly and with perhaps a slight analyitical view would have noticed it was contradictory, pieced together and subjective. That's why I was interested in the shirt. Artikel wasn't worth the time reading it.

The bigger scare is that people will believe anything written (true or not) on the internet as absolute and then vigorously defend what they've written no matter how error-ridden it is. That is much more dangerous, people need to think first and ask rational questions.

NuPwrSoul said:

sweething said:

Anyone reading the "originally placed" article thoroughly and with perhaps a slight analyitical view would have noticed it was contradictory, pieced together and subjective. That's why I was interested in the shirt. Artikel wasn't worth the time reading it.

The bigger scare is that people will believe anything written (true or not) on the internet as absolute and then vigorously defend what they've written no matter how error-ridden it is. That is much more dangerous, people need to think first and ask rational questions.

Prince is partly responsible for this by his refusal to allow his interviews to be recorded.

It gives him wiggle room--plausible deniability so he (or more importantly his fans) can blame the interviewer for the crazy shit he says. He is not the most eloquent in expressing himself on world affairs, politics, or matters like that in interviews--just go look at the Tavis Smiley interview and see his discussion of chemtrails, etc.

When it comes to music however, he knows what he is talking about... it's clear he needs to stay in his lane. Or read/study (not just the Bible)/explore real life in the real world before commenting on it.

You may have a point about Prince being "vague" perhaps the interviewer was just dumb--that's certainly a possibility-- but the responsibility and genetics we as human have gives us the ability to discern. Some folks just aren't even thinking these days--that's what's scary..

Didn't Prince release a song last year about this kinda thing?

.....Colonized Mind......

Download: no responsibility
Do what you want nobody cares

If you look, ur sure gonna find
Thruout mankind's history
A colonized mind
The one in power makes laws
Under which the colonized fall
But without god
It's just the blind leading the blind

LOVEVERY1 said:

Actually Prince (has) met in person, face to face,

numerous Muslim women, men and children.

[Edited 6/24/11 19:24pm]

Why do you leave so much blank space around the text of your (unintelligible) comments?

sweething said:

NuPwrSoul said:

Prince is partly responsible for this by his refusal to allow his interviews to be recorded.

It gives him wiggle room--plausible deniability so he (or more importantly his fans) can blame the interviewer for the crazy shit he says. He is not the most eloquent in expressing himself on world affairs, politics, or matters like that in interviews--just go look at the Tavis Smiley interview and see his discussion of chemtrails, etc.

When it comes to music however, he knows what he is talking about... it's clear he needs to stay in his lane. Or read/study (not just the Bible)/explore real life in the real world before commenting on it.

You may have a point about Prince being "vague"

I doubt he was "vague" at all. He was probably very clear about his views. But his refusal to allow his interviews to be recorded allows him the chance to backtrack from the crazy shit he DOES say.

toejam said:

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

He also let U talk 2 him face 2 face & this is how U repay him? He is just imagining how he wants the world 2 b. But he can live how he wants. No one else have 2 live that way. What is wrong with him wanting the world 2 live by one religion?

KC, I know the conversation has moved on somewhat, but I just want to clarify: I have never met Prince "face 2 face". That was MC and Captain. Not me. I drew the shortstraw haha. Secondly, I would like to think I would have still said the exact same thing had he said that comment to me (and I am hoping as Funkenberry suggests that it was taken out of context anyway). I am not trying to gag him and tell him he shouldn't say what he feels, all I'm saying is that there is nothing wrong with speaking out against someone's comments if you feel they are incorrect - which is all I have done.

What's wrong with him wanting the world to live by one religion? Well, I'm sure his heart is in the right place - but religion is not the answer IMO. But that's another thread altogether

Oh! Sorry thought U was one of the ones that met him. have nothing against U. think Ur show is the best.

just really get tired of people on here waiting 4 Prince 2 say something or release new product so they can crucify him all the time, It seems ever since he became a JW( which feel has made him a better person). People want 2 blame every thing on that & LARRY GRAHAM. Prince is a grown ass man & can do what he wants. People on here seem so miserable with there own lifes, so they tear Prince apart 2 make them feel better.

get heavily criticized on here 4 defending him & writing in Prince ebonics(which won't stop). been called everything on here from a Princef-g, 2 a Prince ass ball licker..lol don't really care. will continue 2 defend him. am not sexually attracted 2 Prince or want 2 b his lover. He is my top musical idol of all time & always will b. He is the reason how me and my girlfriend got 2gether.

'm sure Prince has read these threads & rolled his eyes @ all the idiotic comments, 4rm a excerpt of an interview! said in the beginning of this thread that people need 2 read the whole interview b4 tearing him apart. But now its turned in2 over 20 pages.

understand U have ur opinion. will agree 2 disagree with U & have Love4oneanother.

Keep up the good work on ur show..

[Edited 6/24/11 20:10pm]

electricberet said:

I think both versions caught the gist of what he was saying. He likes it when women wear burqas. How to accomplish that goal got lost in translation, I guess.

I don't think he's even necessarily saying that he likes it when women wear burqas. He's saying that he can't understand why people are trying to stop them from wearing them when the women themselves are saying they are doing it by choice.

I realise that's a huge topic and yes, he probably regrets entering into it, but now that I've seen the French interview (original at http://www.leparisien.fr/...506286.php) and have done a bit of searching, I realise that he was most likely commenting directly on an issue that's obviously very current in France, where he was doing the interview.

France has recently "banned the burqa", making it illegal for women to wear it in a public place (http://moroccoworldnews.c...-europe-2/).

We could debate the rights and wrongs of this forever (please, let's not) but the point is that Prince was most likely making a comment about something that's presumably pretty big news where he was at the time of the interview, but when something so potentially controversial is paraphrased and condensed into a couple of sentences in an interview that then goes out to all corners of the world at the click of a button, the meaning is not only usually lost, but often becomes twisted and taken to mean all sorts of things, completely out of context of the original discussion.

I noticed that the author of the Guardian article had answered some questions on Twitter, including responding to a tweet about how a Minnesota native wouldn't say 'move house' with the comment, "Good point. He doesn't allow tape recording, only notes so some unintentional paraphrasing is inevitable." Well, obviously, considering how different the two interviews were.

In any case, it's an interesting exercise in seeing how quickly energy can shift, gain momentum, change direction, etc... as information is revealed. A number of places other than here have commented on how "the org's going crazy over this article". I realise it's an old question, but why is it that his most active internet fan site is the place that is always the most critical and unforgiving?

No wonder he doesn't like the internet.

NuPwrSoul said:

sweething said:

Anyone reading the "originally placed" article thoroughly and with perhaps a slight analyitical view would have noticed it was contradictory, pieced together and subjective. That's why I was interested in the shirt. Artikel wasn't worth the time reading it.

The bigger scare is that people will believe anything written (true or not) on the internet as absolute and then vigorously defend what they've written no matter how error-ridden it is. That is much more dangerous, people need to think first and ask rational questions.

Prince is partly responsible for this by his refusal to allow his interviews to be recorded.

It gives him wiggle room--plausible deniability so he (or more importantly his fans) can blame the interviewer for the crazy shit he says. He is not the most eloquent in expressing himself on world affairs, politics, or matters like that in interviews--just go look at the Tavis Smiley interview and see his discussion of chemtrails, etc.

When it comes to music however, he knows what he is talking about... it's clear he needs to stay in his lane. Or read/study (not just the Bible)/explore real life in the real world before commenting on it.

That was exactly my point a few pages back...always cleverly and conveniently leaving the back door/escape route open, which is why I laughed for a good while when I read the piece.

If someone is unwilling to go on the record and stand by their statements for good or ill, then what, ultimately is the import of what they said?

alexnvrmnd777 said:

This is why his dumbass should allow the interviewer to record the interviews so that he/she can go back to it to make sure everything's correct. He's so paranoid about someone selling the recording to allegedly "make money" off of his voice. Get the hell over yourself, dude. I mean, seriously. You're not the goose that lays golden eggs. You ain't no hot-selling commodity like you were back in the day, no matter what you think of yourself. No real money would be made even IF the recording would be "sold". He talks in so many damn riddles that you can't blame the interviewer for possibly misconstruing something he said. But really, I'm sure the Guardian's version is pretty accurate. The Parisian one just seems to be damage control due to the backlash he knew his ass was gonna receive.

At one point in this interview, he says he wishes he could walk down the street without being noticed. Then, he tells a story of, way early in his career, when he was dressed in rags cuz of helping someone move and a couple of girls THOUGHT it was him but changed their minds and went about their business. Then, he says that was the last time he went outside looking raggedy. But wasn't his "raggedy" look what actually gave him privacy at that time? So, he's saying he'd rather dress up like a flamboyant peacock and get noticed by EVERYONE???? Isn't that exactly what he said he didn't want?!? The hypocrisy of this guy is fuckin' mind blowing!!!! What a damn idiot.

I, personally, couldn't care less that he's not releasing any more shit for a while. Prince, as the artist he is now, wasn't getting my money any longer anyhow, live or recordings. It's ALL going to be OLD shit that I seek and obtain. His shit is boring now anyway, so no skin off my nose.

Oh, and about those Purple Rain shows he got tired of doing...I'd rather hear/see his out-of-this world performances of "Baby, I'm A Star" than an ENTIRE Welcome 2 America show. He may have been bored to death doing those shows, but they were loads better than anything he's doing now.

I'm beginning to see WHY he doesn't allow reporters to record him. The reason I'm seeing is when what's reported causes ANY backlash...THAT...makes it very simple to claim and entirely plausible to believe...that what was reported was..."taken out of context".

Think about it. How much of the baffling ass shit that he's said in interviews...recently...has been conveniently swept under the rug of "taken out of context"?

babynoz said:

NuPwrSoul said:

Prince is partly responsible for this by his refusal to allow his interviews to be recorded.

It gives him wiggle room--plausible deniability so he (or more importantly his fans) can blame the interviewer for the crazy shit he says. He is not the most eloquent in expressing himself on world affairs, politics, or matters like that in interviews--just go look at the Tavis Smiley interview and see his discussion of chemtrails, etc.

When it comes to music however, he knows what he is talking about... it's clear he needs to stay in his lane. Or read/study (not just the Bible)/explore real life in the real world before commenting on it.

That was exactly my point a few pages back...always cleverly and conveniently leaving the back door/escape route open, which is why I laughed for a good while when I read the piece.

If someone is unwilling to go on the record and stand by their statements for good or ill, then what, ultimately is the import of what they said?

Chiquetet said:

electricberet said:

I think both versions caught the gist of what he was saying. He likes it when women wear burqas. How to accomplish that goal got lost in translation, I guess.

I don't think he's even necessarily saying that he likes it when women wear burqas. He's saying that he can't understand why people are trying to stop them from wearing them when the women themselves are saying they are doing it by choice.

I realise that's a huge topic and yes, he probably regrets entering into it, but now that I've seen the French interview (original at http://www.leparisien.fr/...506286.php) and have done a bit of searching, I realise that he was most likely commenting directly on an issue that's obviously very current in France, where he was doing the interview.

France has recently "banned the burqa", making it illegal for women to wear it in a public place (http://moroccoworldnews.c...-europe-2/).

We could debate the rights and wrongs of this forever (please, let's not) but the point is that Prince was most likely making a comment about something that's presumably pretty big news where he was at the time of the interview, but when something so potentially controversial is paraphrased and condensed into a couple of sentences in an interview that then goes out to all corners of the world at the click of a button, the meaning is not only usually lost, but often becomes twisted and taken to mean all sorts of things, completely out of context of the original discussion.

I noticed that the author of the Guardian article had answered some questions on Twitter, including responding to a tweet about how a Minnesota native wouldn't say 'move house' with the comment, "Good point. He doesn't allow tape recording, only notes so some unintentional paraphrasing is inevitable." Well, obviously, considering how different the two interviews were.

In any case, it's an interesting exercise in seeing how quickly energy can shift, gain momentum, change direction, etc... as information is revealed. A number of places other than here have commented on how "the org's going crazy over this article". I realise it's an old question, but why is it that his most active internet fan site is the place that is always the most critical and unforgiving?

No wonder he doesn't like the internet.

I think you know the answer. Over the past ten years, he's done pretty much everything he can do to alienate his fans. What other major artist has released a song trashing his own fan base? Or sued fan websites? Or come up with as many ways of getting people to pay for content that never materializes? I doubt there are many longtime Prince fans who haven't been jerked around by him at one time or another. If a large majority of your own fans don't admire you as a person, then the most active and popular fan site is likely to be the one with the most vitriol directed at you.

The tragedy (or comedy) of Prince reminds me of what Daniel Barenboim had to say about conducting Wagner in Israel:

"Wagner, the person, is absolutely appalling, despicable, and, in a way, very difficult to put together with the music he wrote, which so often has exactly the opposite kind of feelings. It is noble, generous, etc."

http://www.danielbarenboi....php?id=52

A relative of mine is coming to visit soon who thinks Prince is "creepy." I'm not exactly looking forward to the jokes he's going to make when he sees the 30 or so Prince CDs on my shelf. But I'm used to it, as most of us are. I'm glad I have the music and wish others appreciated it, but Prince is working as hard as he can to make sure that he's just remembered as that skinny motherfucker with a high voice.

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

alexnvrmnd777 said:

This is why his dumbass should allow the interviewer to record the interviews so that he/she can go back to it to make sure everything's correct. He's so paranoid about someone selling the recording to allegedly "make money" off of his voice. Get the hell over yourself, dude. I mean, seriously. You're not the goose that lays golden eggs. You ain't no hot-selling commodity like you were back in the day, no matter what you think of yourself. No real money would be made even IF the recording would be "sold". He talks in so many damn riddles that you can't blame the interviewer for possibly misconstruing something he said. But really, I'm sure the Guardian's version is pretty accurate. The Parisian one just seems to be damage control due to the backlash he knew his ass was gonna receive.

At one point in this interview, he says he wishes he could walk down the street without being noticed. Then, he tells a story of, way early in his career, when he was dressed in rags cuz of helping someone move and a couple of girls THOUGHT it was him but changed their minds and went about their business. Then, he says that was the last time he went outside looking raggedy. But wasn't his "raggedy" look what actually gave him privacy at that time? So, he's saying he'd rather dress up like a flamboyant peacock and get noticed by EVERYONE???? Isn't that exactly what he said he didn't want?!? The hypocrisy of this guy is fuckin' mind blowing!!!! What a damn idiot.

I, personally, couldn't care less that he's not releasing any more shit for a while. Prince, as the artist he is now, wasn't getting my money any longer anyhow, live or recordings. It's ALL going to be OLD shit that I seek and obtain. His shit is boring now anyway, so no skin off my nose.

Oh, and about those Purple Rain shows he got tired of doing...I'd rather hear/see his out-of-this world performances of "Baby, I'm A Star" than an ENTIRE Welcome 2 America show. He may have been bored to death doing those shows, but they were loads better than anything he's doing now.

I'm beginning to see WHY he doesn't allow reporters to record him. The reason I'm seeing is when what's reported causes ANY backlash...THAT...makes it very simple to claim and entirely plausible to believe...that what was reported was..."taken out of context".

Think about it. How much of the baffling ass shit that he's said in interviews...recently...has been conveniently swept under the rug of "taken out of context"?

Yes, I agree that the chance to say he was "taken out of context" is another reason he doesn't allow it. Still though, he SHOULD allow it. Plain and simple. Maybe if the reporter could wear a wire next time....

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

alexnvrmnd777 said:

This is why his dumbass should allow the interviewer to record the interviews so that he/she can go back to it to make sure everything's correct. He's so paranoid about someone selling the recording to allegedly "make money" off of his voice. Get the hell over yourself, dude. I mean, seriously. You're not the goose that lays golden eggs. You ain't no hot-selling commodity like you were back in the day, no matter what you think of yourself. No real money would be made even IF the recording would be "sold". He talks in so many damn riddles that you can't blame the interviewer for possibly misconstruing something he said. But really, I'm sure the Guardian's version is pretty accurate. The Parisian one just seems to be damage control due to the backlash he knew his ass was gonna receive.

At one point in this interview, he says he wishes he could walk down the street without being noticed. Then, he tells a story of, way early in his career, when he was dressed in rags cuz of helping someone move and a couple of girls THOUGHT it was him but changed their minds and went about their business. Then, he says that was the last time he went outside looking raggedy. But wasn't his "raggedy" look what actually gave him privacy at that time? So, he's saying he'd rather dress up like a flamboyant peacock and get noticed by EVERYONE???? Isn't that exactly what he said he didn't want?!? The hypocrisy of this guy is fuckin' mind blowing!!!! What a damn idiot.

I, personally, couldn't care less that he's not releasing any more shit for a while. Prince, as the artist he is now, wasn't getting my money any longer anyhow, live or recordings. It's ALL going to be OLD shit that I seek and obtain. His shit is boring now anyway, so no skin off my nose.

Oh, and about those Purple Rain shows he got tired of doing...I'd rather hear/see his out-of-this world performances of "Baby, I'm A Star" than an ENTIRE Welcome 2 America show. He may have been bored to death doing those shows, but they were loads better than anything he's doing now.

I'm beginning to see WHY he doesn't allow reporters to record him. The reason I'm seeing is when what's reported causes ANY backlash...THAT...makes it very simple to claim and entirely plausible to believe...that what was reported was..."taken out of context".

Think about it. How much of the baffling ass shit that he's said in interviews...recently...has been conveniently swept under the rug of "taken out of context"?

The "explanation" by Dr. Funkenberry was even more lame than the Guardian interview, in my opinion. Two sides to every Prince story? When Prince sang in "Controversy" about people being confused as to whether he's black or white, straight or gay, or whether he believes in God or in himself, the point was that it doesn't matter, because it's cool to be or believe any of those things. Or at least I took that to be the point--maybe he means something different when he sings it now. But it's not cool to act like there are "two sides to every story" when one side is that you're in favor of theocratic fascism and the other side is that you just want women to be free to cover their bodies completely if they want to do so. The second point may be valid but the first is indefensible and probably the scariest thing he's ever been accused of saying. If he didn't say what the Guardian said he said, then he should flat out deny making those comments. I imagine what happened is that he spewed out a lot of garbled nonsense and the two reporters did the best they could to make sense of it. He deserves the backlash he got.

Prince has been playing this game with the press for years.

I'm not sure why he's newsworthy, at this point. Surely the cons outweigh the pros, if you're a reporter tasked with interviewing him.

The "clarifying" second article at best mitigates the first to some degree but does nothing to minimize the cumulative effects of his rants about Moors, chemtrails, early presidents of the U.S., stauroses, boox and calendars (I wonder what he has to say about the Bible recording people's ages ).

bless his heart.
[Edited 6/24/11 21:14pm]

ThreadBare said:

Prince has been playing this game with the press for years. I'm not sure why he's newsworthy, at this point. Surely the cons outweigh the pros, if you're a reporter tasked with interviewing him. The "clarifying" second article at best mitigates the first to some degree but does nothing to minimize the cumulative effects of his rants about Moors, chemtrails, early presidents of the U.S., stauroses, boox and calendars (I wonder what he has to say about the Bible recording people's ages ).

bless his heart

At the end of the day, that's all the acknowledgement his comments deserve sometimes.

electricberet said:

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

I'm beginning to see WHY he doesn't allow reporters to record him. The reason I'm seeing is when what's reported causes ANY backlash...THAT...makes it very simple to claim and entirely plausible to believe...that what was reported was..."taken out of context".

Think about it. How much of the baffling ass shit that he's said in interviews...recently...has been conveniently swept under the rug of "taken out of context"?

The "explanation" by Dr. Funkenberry was even more lame than the Guardian interview, in my opinion. Two sides to every Prince story? When Prince sang in "Controversy" about people being confused as to whether he's black or white, straight or gay, or whether he believes in God or in himself, the point was that it doesn't matter, because it's cool to be or believe any of those things. Or at least I took that to be the point--maybe he means something different when he sings it now. But it's not cool to act like there are "two sides to every story" when one side is that you're in favor of theocratic fascism and the other side is that you just want women to be free to cover their bodies completely if they want to do so. The second point may be valid but the first is indefensible and probably the scariest thing he's ever been accused of saying. If he didn't say what the Guardian said he said, then he should flat out deny making those comments. I imagine what happened is that he spewed out a lot of garbled nonsense and the two reporters did the best they could to make sense of it. He deserves the backlash he got.

I'm STILL waiting for an official link to that "convenient" second article.

The longer I wait, the more I find it rather interesting...that Dr. Funkenberry didn't include it in his post.

electricberet said:

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

I'm beginning to see WHY he doesn't allow reporters to record him. The reason I'm seeing is when what's reported causes ANY backlash...THAT...makes it very simple to claim and entirely plausible to believe...that what was reported was..."taken out of context".

Think about it. How much of the baffling ass shit that he's said in interviews...recently...has been conveniently swept under the rug of "taken out of context"?

The "explanation" by Dr. Funkenberry was even more lame than the Guardian interview, in my opinion. Two sides to every Prince story? When Prince sang in "Controversy" about people being confused as to whether he's black or white, straight or gay, or whether he believes in God or in himself, the point was that it doesn't matter, because it's cool to be or believe any of those things. Or at least I took that to be the point--maybe he means something different when he sings it now. But it's not cool to act like there are "two sides to every story" when one side is that you're in favor of theocratic fascism and the other side is that you just want women to be free to cover their bodies completely if they want to do so. The second point may be valid but the first is indefensible and probably the scariest thing he's ever been accused of saying. If he didn't say what the Guardian said he said, then he should flat out deny making those comments. I imagine what happened is that he spewed out a lot of garbled nonsense and the two reporters did the best they could to make sense of it. He deserves the backlash he got.

I was actually counting down how soon the designated Minister of Propaganda was going to make an appearance and muddy the water a little more,

Prince being vague and cryptic is very deliberate and always has been.

electricberet said:

I think you know the answer. Over the past ten years, he's done pretty much everything he can do to alienate his fans. What other major artist has released a song trashing his own fan base? Or sued fan websites? Or come up with as many ways of getting people to pay for content that never materializes? I doubt there are many longtime Prince fans who haven't been jerked around by him at one time or another. If a large majority of your own fans don't admire you as a person, then the most active and popular fan site is likely to be the one with the most vitriol directed at you.

Yeah, I understand

Well, as someone who doesn't feel jerked around by him, I try to remember always to give him (like anyone else) the benefit of the doubt. But you're right, it's unreasonable (or, at the very least, unproductive) to expect the same of those who here who feel wronged by him.

It's a bit silly to effectively expect more from his fanbase than I do from the man himself.

I guess I just feel compassion for someone whose 'goodness' for lack of a better term still clearly shines through in his music, yet who is fairly constantly subjected to such negativity by the very people he would, in a normal situation, rely on for support - the fact that such an abnormal situation is effectively by his own hand notwithstanding.

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

I'm STILL waiting for an official link to that "convenient" second article.

The longer I wait, the more I find it rather interesting...that Dr. Funkenberry didn't include it in his post.

Well, it's not exactly an official link, as such, but I'm pretty sure this is it: http://www.leparisien.fr/...506286.php

What Doc F posted seems to be very similar to Google's translation, albeit a couple of choice words appear to have changed (notably people "attacking" vs. "being against" the burqa and "drive" in this context presumably refers to recording).

I admit the first thing I did was search for the original source for the same reason...now that I've seen it, I have no idea why he didn't (except maybe a misguided assumption that no one would want to see it because it's in French).

babynoz said:

ThreadBare said:

bless his heart

At the end of the day, that's all the acknowledgement his comments deserve sometimes.

Nearly 25 pages. You would ALMOST think that people still cared what they guy has to say.

I guess everyone knew this is how it'd end up - with Prince a lonely old miser, hoarding his music away because no one gives him what he feels its worth.

Fuck that guy. There's too much good music still being released (and having been released while he spent 10 years on autopilot) to worry about his drama. When he says nobody is getting paid or making money - who is he talking about? Who are these mysterious artists. Tons of people make money.

Maybe its just him.

Cerebus said:

Nearly 25 pages. You would ALMOST think that people still cared what they guy has to say.

On the org, yeah, in the general public...not so much,

I was amused to hear a blurb about it just now on the local news, but they only reported the part about him not releasing any more music and blaming the internet. They said he just needs a "Kiss".

They seemed quite pleased with their attempt at being witty.

Spinlight said:

I guess everyone knew this is how it'd end up - with Prince a lonely old miser, hoarding his music away because no one gives him what he feels its worth.

Fuck that guy. There's too much good music still being released (and having been released while he spent 10 years on autopilot) to worry about his drama. When he says nobody is getting paid or making money - who is he talking about? Who are these mysterious artists. Tons of people make money.

Maybe its just him.

It IS him. He just edits so he can make think people believe "guys I understand". It's been like that since he signed that ridiculous $100 million deal back in '92.

purplethunder3121 said:

Why so pissy Prince?