RocRuba said:

Sad. It's like watching your favorite uncle, whom you look up to and thought was so cool, now starting to go senile, and you know there's nothing you can do about it. Proof that Religion will fucking destroy a person. I think the death of his child and meeting Larry Graham pushed him over the edge. He lost his spirituality and turned to "MAN MADE" religion for answers. It so sad to lose someone you once knew. When I was a teenager, he was my hero. Now, he's just a man with flaws like everyone else.

That's the problem and thanks for pointing this out.

Prince is not a God. He is a man and he has and is going to make mistakes JUST LIKE US.

Don't ever think that any celebrity is not human.

Anyway... He does sum it all up...

" "I don't want to get up on a soapbox. My view of the world, you can debate that for ever. But I'm a musician. That's what I do. And I also am music. Come to the show for that."

It's been over an hour, and he's starting to look restless. Does he feel most at peace when playing music?

"I can feel pretty peaceful doing other things as well," he says, with what I think might be a saucy look.

Does he ever feel nostalgic?

"I tend to dig some of the art from back then. I like putting it on shirts and bags. The fans dig it. But musically, no. Each band brings different songs out of you."

He keeps playing down his own stardom and doffing his cap to his band or God or Sly and the Family Stone, but does he ever think, perhaps midway through playing When Doves Cry to 30,000 people: "I'm really very good at this"?

"Well I don't think it," he smirks, raising an eyebrow. "I know it." "

He IS a musician, NOT a philosopher... Get over it and get over yourselves

harveya said:

Anyway... He does sum it all up...

" "I don't want to get up on a soapbox. My view of the world, you can debate that for ever. But I'm a musician. That's what I do. And I also am music. Come to the show for that."

It's been over an hour, and he's starting to look restless. Does he feel most at peace when playing music?

"I can feel pretty peaceful doing other things as well," he says, with what I think might be a saucy look.

Does he ever feel nostalgic?

"I tend to dig some of the art from back then. I like putting it on shirts and bags. The fans dig it. But musically, no. Each band brings different songs out of you."

He keeps playing down his own stardom and doffing his cap to his band or God or Sly and the Family Stone, but does he ever think, perhaps midway through playing When Doves Cry to 30,000 people: "I'm really very good at this"?

"Well I don't think it," he smirks, raising an eyebrow. "I know it." "

He IS a musician, NOT a philosopher... Get over it and get over yourselves

LOVEVERY1 said:

LOVEVERY1 said:

Hello,

While everyone is entitled to his/her opinion.

The boat was totally missed by many in regards in what he meant from his statements made in this interview. smiles.

Plz have a great day!!!!

Have a love for life......

See ya tomorrow

Goodday to all,

Nice to know that some understood what he was implying. I see many here got it. A type of order, unity, boundaries in a good way.

He wouldn't disrespect someone elses' faith in that manner.

As for a new album he will. No more recording new music & releasing what he already has recorded is a different thing all together.

(Are you really about the positive or the negative ------ LOVE is always the better choice)

[Edited 6/23/11 22:25pm]

xLiberiangirl said:

harveya said:

Anyway... He does sum it all up...

" "I don't want to get up on a soapbox. My view of the world, you can debate that for ever. But I'm a musician. That's what I do. And I also am music. Come to the show for that."

It's been over an hour, and he's starting to look restless. Does he feel most at peace when playing music?

"I can feel pretty peaceful doing other things as well," he says, with what I think might be a saucy look.

Does he ever feel nostalgic?

"I tend to dig some of the art from back then. I like putting it on shirts and bags. The fans dig it. But musically, no. Each band brings different songs out of you."

He keeps playing down his own stardom and doffing his cap to his band or God or Sly and the Family Stone, but does he ever think, perhaps midway through playing When Doves Cry to 30,000 people: "I'm really very good at this"?

"Well I don't think it," he smirks, raising an eyebrow. "I know it." "

He IS a musician, NOT a philosopher... Get over it and get over yourselves

He IS a musician, NOT a philosopher... Get over it and get over yourselves

Exactly. I am so with you.

[Edited 6/24/11 8:02am]

NouveauDance said:

"It's fun being in Islamic countries, to know there's only one religion. There's order. You wear a burqa. There's no choice. People are happy with that."

That is probably the most pathetic and disheartening thing I've ever read from Prince.

What a fucking cretin.

Completely agree. For an intelligent man, that is an outstandingly ignorant and arrogant thing to say.

harveya said:

He IS a musician, NOT a philosopher... Get over it and get over yourselves

Then perhaps he should stop philosophizing, especially from the stage.

phunkymunky said:

NouveauDance said:

That is probably the most pathetic and disheartening thing I've ever read from Prince.

What a fucking cretin.

Completely agree. For an intelligent man, that is an outstandingly ignorant and arrogant thing to say.

Intelligent? Talented.

herb4 said:

harveya said:

He IS a musician, NOT a philosopher... Get over it and get over yourselves

Then perhaps he should stop philosophizing, especially from the stage.

It is truely a bummer when he gives out his religious mumbo-jumbo for 5 minutes during a 2 and a half hour gig, isn't it?!

Timmy84 said:

Prince: 'I'm a musician. And I am music'

Sometimes he seems a little too fond of boundaries. "It's fun being in Islamic countries, to know there's only one religion. There's order. You wear a burqa. There's no choice. People are happy with that." But what about women who are unhappy about having to wearing burqas? "There are people who are unhappy with everything," he says shruggingly. "There's a dark side to everything."

Okay Im a little late here....but holy shit balls!!

Prince has gone down in my books.......DUMB AS FUCK!!

At this point, if I were Prince... I would just retire and live how and where he wants. We don't deserve to tell him what he should do with his life or anything for that matter. We just can not accept the fact that Prince is Prince and some of us whine and complain when he is not knocking on our front door with a new album.

He has nothing to prove to the music industry, you or me... he has done it all. Anything he records now will reflect where he is at in his life. He did this with 20Ten and a lot of people hated it because it didn't sound like what they wanted it to sound like. It's time for all to move on and understand that Prince is not the same Prince you used to know. Leave him alone, he obviously wants that now it seems.

I don't do the same things I did when I was 20 years old. I certainly hope to God that you guys don't either. Okay... come criticize my opinion.

Prince is the new Arthur Rimbaud.

harveya said:

herb4 said:

Then perhaps he should stop philosophizing, especially from the stage.

It is truely a bummer when he gives out his religious mumbo-jumbo for 5 minutes during a 2 and a half hour gig, isn't it?!

errrrrrrrr....yes!

NouveauDance said:

"It's fun being in Islamic countries, to know there's only one religion. There's order. You wear a burqa. There's no choice. People are happy with that."

That is probably the most pathetic and disheartening thing I've ever read from Prince.

What a fucking cretin.

Agreed! I read shit like that and wonder why I even bother staying a fan. I wish he had no plans to ever do another interview, that I could get behind

Damn you, Lee Harris! lol

In the Netherlands he is big in the news with a quote stating that he likes women to be in burqa's (or something with this title)...out of this same interview.

Really Prince..i know you have had issues with too little boundaries in your past..but really do not bend over the other way..it's just as bad on a personal level..but it is all the more dangerous on a political level...

But what am i typing..? This is stupid...stupid..stupid..reminds me of Lars van Trier stating that he understands Hitler..but at least he rectified himself afterwards...i am sure Prince will not consider that...

Stupid!

As I pointed out in another thread, his music is unique. How can we expect him to have views and opinions that are average and ordinary when he himself is not? We might not have gotten all that extraordinary music from someone who thought like everyone else. Most genius artists have controversial opinions or a different slant on things. Some are touched with madness. We don't have to agree with everything they say. We just need to appreciate the art.

I will be bummed like many if he never comes out with new music for his fans to enjoy in one form or another. Only time will tell on that one.

After reading through some of the "legitimate article" not legitimate stuff I don't know what to believe.

I will just leave it at I hope its false and wrong on all counts and be done with it.

Illuminations said:

At this point, if I were Prince... I would just retire and live how and where he wants. We don't deserve to tell him what he should do with his life or anything for that matter. We just can not accept the fact that Prince is Prince and some of us whine and complain when he is not knocking on our front door with a new album.

He has nothing to prove to the music industry, you or me... he has done it all. Anything he records now will reflect where he is at in his life. He did this with 20Ten and a lot of people hated it because it didn't sound like what they wanted it to sound like. It's time for all to move on and understand that Prince is not the same Prince you used to know. Leave him alone, he obviously wants that now it seems.

I don't do the same things I did when I was 20 years old. I certainly hope to God that you guys don't either. Okay... come criticize my opinion.

Prince is the new Arthur Rimbaud.

And this is what many don't seems to understand !!!!!!!!!

Except that this is what it is and just enjoy the rest/present of what there is musically regarding him.

If you don't like the Personality/music out-put of this time period, then u don't like it, that's fine too.

remko said:

phunkymunky said:

Completely agree. For an intelligent man, that is an outstandingly ignorant and arrogant thing to say.

Intelligent? Talented.

I think it's fair to say that he's an intelligent man. He's a long way from stupid and should realise what a moronic and ill-educated thing it was to say

People can complain all they like about Princes mindset. They d be better off looking at their own closed mindset. Most people on here would probably think they were open minded. I d like them to be in the public eye so we could see how they try to dominate and control other people and make people wrong. I m talking to everyone on here.

phunkymunky said:

remko said:

Intelligent? Talented.

I think it's fair to say that he's an intelligent man. He's a long way from stupid and should realise what a moronic and ill-educated thing it was to say

My point: doe she know what a moronic and ill-educated thing it was to say? I fear not.

So in that case the least we can say is that the level of his intelligence is not that high.

Cravens said:

colorblu said:

It sounds like he is saying that God's Masterplan is sovereign over all of us. By submitting to the authority that governs us all, we can love and grow together without strife.

But how is a society with forced marriages full of love? How is it growth that women have next to no rights? Or if we're not talking gender, how is a society that fake having human rights, rather than actually having them anything close to "growth"?

Seems to me the only way Prince's "analogy" could make sense, would be if one lacked insight, perspective and knowledge on what's actually happening in the Middle Eastern world, in regards to human rights and women's rights in particular, not to mention the rampant capitalism that exploits the lands for oil, at the benifit for the priests and the monarchis, but at the cost of its citizens and nature*.

Can your love and growth only happen (for the benefit of you only) if I accept my fate as being oppressed, if I accept that I have no rights? Why must I pay for your utopia?

'/of which the Western world of course contributes a great deal.

[Edited 6/24/11 4:27am]

Prince's "Muslim" analogy (seems to me) that it isn't taken to be literally but more of a concept (utopia). And Prince's Utopia seems to be one religion, one way of doings.

I'm reposting my earlier comment:

I think Prince uses colorful ways to describe his thoughts or positions, that in it self leads to misinterpretation. I took his "Muslim" comment as a sort of analogy to his personal "JW" beliefs. One way of thinking-one true religion-With in that there is order. I think Prince was trying to sound like he isn't just pushing the JW thing all the time, perhaps? Yet still trying to delivery his JW message covertly in analogical way, although it backfired.

What did you think Prince meant by the "Muslim" comment?

big news... alsjeblieft zeg. nobody really gives a shit what prince says but us

101 said:

In the Netherlands he is big in the news with a quote stating that he likes women to be in burqa's (or something with this title)...out of this same interview.

too bad...so sad

[Edited 6/24/11 10:14am]

If Prince was from a Muslim country, and said "Playing in the US is fun, a woman threw her bra onstage" I imagine that many of the reactions from his home country would be equally biased. No wonder we are at war.

JudasSmile said:

There is an excerpt from an interview with Prince here:

http://www.guardian.co.uk...CMP=twt_fd

Prince said: "It's fun being in Islamic countries, to know there's only one religion. There's order. You wear a burqa. There's no choice. People are happy with that." When asked about the fate of those unhappy with having no choice, he replied: "There are people who are unhappy with everything. There's a dark side to everything."

This is the first time that I have ever read anything that Prince has said where my first and most valid thought was "fuck EVERYTHING about this".

For him to imply that a society that adheres to a theocracy is "fun" when women are literally second class citizens, stoned to death or flogged because they are raped...in other words held responsible for every ill in society whereas men are excused because everything they do that is a sin is a direct result of women, is, in a word, fucked. I have literally contemplated not buying anything else he does record for this one statement, if it is indeed what he said, because it encompasses everything that is wrong with religion. There's order, which is great, so what if women are subjected to the most heinous lives one can imagine? Some people bitch about everything..being beheaded, raped, flogged, having acid thrown in one's face, being gay and hanging for it, etc., etc., etc.

He's better come out and clarify this statement. It's the most abhorrent thing he's ever said in my opinion.

he is an intelligent man, but another example of what religion in its ugly side can do to the human mind...he used to preach tolerance and freedom and now he tries to teach the people what the real faith is...he became an obsessed person...sad

linus4000 said:

he is an intelligent man, but another example of what religion in its ugly side can do to the human mind...he used to preach tolerance and freedom and now he tries to teach the people what the real faith is...he became an obsessed person...sad

TOTALLY agree.

It is for this reason that I will, once again, read Christopher Hitchen's book, "God Is Not Great: How Religion Poisons Everything".

This has to be the most depressing thing I've read in quite a while, i.e., Prince's quote regarding not having a choice and being ok with it. I can be open minded with regard to lots of things he's said in the past, but this..this is beyond the pale.

what i don't understand is how so many people buy into media steryotypes regarding middle eastern folks/muslims. Its really pathetic how openly racist some folks really are.