I still get just as excited. I was in my hotel room on tour in Canada last year when 20TEN came out. I had already told my cousin back here in the UK to pick me up a few copies of the newspaper and to send me the MP3 rip straight away. I was jumping up and down in my room lol. I listened to "Lavaux" first and was like WHOAAAA!!!!!!

I stopped caring about new Prince music!

Make an album, wait another two years or three, I don't care, I will just enjoy the old stuff. Fuck it.

I've been saying this for years now

Yeah i still get the new albums, but they dont move me like they use to.

The purple boat has sailed away The dawn has come and passed

Its time to move on

Wait! i probably be excited if a bunch of outtakes were leaked

mplsmike said:

Wait! i probably be excited if a bunch of outtakes were leaked

You mean like outtakes from albums that he wasn't even able to fill with good songs? At this point, I think it's safe to say that when your IN-takes aren't very strong, the outtakes won't be either.

Timmy84 said:

2freaky4church1 said:

Genesia, Timmy, are you as excited as you were back in the day?

I love to hear ANYTHING new from someone I've admired since I was a child. Maybe not like I used to but I still get excited a little lol

lol so the answer is no?

I know what 2Freaky4church1 is saying, I was actually thinking about that yesterday.

Some of it is the times/industry/pop culture

Some of it is Prince ... I actually like 20Ten but 1st of all it wasn't even released in the USA(Welcome 2 America) so I technically shouldn't have it.

Prince is a killer performer, but in another year he's going to become a circuit performer, doing mostly covers and loosing the Purple magic all2gether.

I was hoping his touring this year would blossom into a reinvention of sorts, seeing old and new band members/proteges together, new look, playing new music etc etc which may open into another level of creativity for Prince. The idea of going to a show to hear him play covers of other people is not worth my money

itsmrhappy said:

Sometimes, I think that disappointment people feel for Prince is not really about Prince, but its a reflection of their own lives they dont like.

When you assume responsibility for what you experience
and share what you experience in a spirit of companionship,
that is the same as forgiveness.
When you hold someone responsible for what you experience,
you lose power.

~ Gary Zukav - from "Seat Of The Soul" ~

'To some extent or other, we all fall in love with images. We carry these images around inside ourselves, waiting until in we find a match in the external world. Usually we are searching for someone either to reflect our own self-image or to repair it. One kind of love seeks a mirror, the other wants to add a missing piece. In both cases there is an underlying sense of need. Feeling incomplete in yourself, you try to bolster your lack through someone else. '

~ Depok Chopra - The Way of the Wizard

I'm guessing you must not be a native English speaker. Prince putting out shitty records has nothing to do with people's lives, good or bad. What you are arguing is that Prince's music is as good, (good being subjective, of course) as it ever was and it's his less-impressed fan's lives who have changed. This is not even remotely the case. I could give you PAGES of objective and direct examples. Musical analysis, lyrical analysis, etc. that illustrate what Prince is doing now is lazier and on a far less-inspired level than before relative to what the comlaining fans miss.

Prince may well be doing something that moves him greatly. What I'm saying is that Prince's music contains watered-down elements of the things that some people initially loved, therefore to these people Prince's music has become stale. The folks who are complaining about quality have very valid concerns based on the things they liked about Prince's older music. To many, Prince seems like a caricature of his former self. The family-friendly Disney crowd might prefer it, but the old fans liked the rawness, the honesty and the willingness to explore some darker places. If you like it, good. If someone else dislikes it, good. Regardless, Prince has rarely explored anything on more than a Junior High School poetry level, anyway.

2freaky4church1 said:

I used to get so excited about a Prince album. I'd take it home, smell it, look at it, read the liner notes before listening--I wanted to make the experience last. I would put on headphones and just take in every song. But now, nope! I listen to every song, yawn and move on to other things. It stopped being an event. The excitement is gone. Unless Prince stuns us with some new masterpiece I for one don't care much.

Make an album, wait another two years or three, I don't care, I will just enjoy the old stuff. Fuck it.

Sucks for you.

Meanwhile, I'm still holding out hope that there will be new music this year.

the only good thing about prince now is the bootlegs. his rehearsals are to die for. Iam a freak for a prince live- rehearsal bootleg.

thedance said:

Nothing new:

It's been so since The Gold Experience, 1995....

Every album seems to get less interesting, they are either half-good, half-bad, or just OK (at best).

Welcome 2 the Dawn...

jackson35 said:

the only good thing about prince now is the bootlegs. his rehearsals are to die for. Iam a freak for a prince live- rehearsal bootleg.

Co-sign!!

As much as I love LotusFlow3r, and enjoy some of the songs on 3121, Musicology, Planet Earth and 20Ten,

I haven't had the same 'first listen thrill' since Rainbow Children.

I remember putting that on with a fellow fan and sitting back, jaws a-gaping, thinking

"wow, what the hell is this??"

Now, I know TRC is an album that divides the fan base, but coming from a production and

musicianship point of view, I found it to be absolutely breathtaking. Still do.

And I haven't had the same feeling of wonder or excitement over the

opening track of a new Prince album since...

2freaky4church1 said:

I used to get so excited about a Prince album. I'd take it home, smell it, look at it, read the liner notes before listening--I wanted to make the experience last. I would put on headphones and just take in every song. But now, nope! I listen to every song, yawn and move on to other things. It stopped being an event. The excitement is gone. Unless Prince stuns us with some new masterpiece I for one don't care much.

Make an album, wait another two years or three, I don't care, I will just enjoy the old stuff. Fuck it.

Thinking on it, when I got the digital version of 20Ten I wasn't crazy excited either but, I was looking forward to it. Like right now, there's no album, no hints of a new album. Just the after-thoughts of a W2A tour that did not cover the entire U.S. (as it did with Musicology, the tour). Perhaps I just don't have that youthful exuberance for his music anymore. I will say this, some of his music or an album from time to time is like holding your breath for a long time and breathing out and taking in that first breath: satisfying and appreciative.

I get your point tho, I walked in and read part of your thread and was ready to

NouveauDance said:

I don't think Prince cares about his new music, and that transfers to his audience.

Hard to argue with that considering the amount of his show that is covers of other peoples music. I think that is a shame. He has plenty of albums that never get played live that should. I will take something from Planet Earth or 3121 or even back to the Symbol album over uyet another cover of a Sly Stone song or some dumb current pop like Beyonce and Rhinna. Prince is above that and just too old to do it.

You must be under 30...

As you age and mature and experience more of the world, nothing will be as impressive as it used to be.

Think back 10 years ago about the things that truly knocked your socks off. A car, or technology perhaps... and think about how the modern day versions of those strike you now. While you may be impressed, its not to the same extent.

The point of my original post was that if you are waiting for Prince to impress you - you might be waiting awhile.

If you wanna be impressed - go out and impress yourself.

And for extra credit, take that work product and expose it to the world for their critical feedback. And be honest with yourself... When the negativity and vitriol comes back to you, would you have the courage to go out and do it all over again??? Prince has done this time and time again.

To me, that in itself is impressive.

steakfinger said:

itsmrhappy said:

Sometimes, I think that disappointment people feel for Prince is not really about Prince, but its a reflection of their own lives they dont like.

When you assume responsibility for what you experience
and share what you experience in a spirit of companionship,
that is the same as forgiveness.
When you hold someone responsible for what you experience,
you lose power.

~ Gary Zukav - from "Seat Of The Soul" ~

'To some extent or other, we all fall in love with images. We carry these images around inside ourselves, waiting until in we find a match in the external world. Usually we are searching for someone either to reflect our own self-image or to repair it. One kind of love seeks a mirror, the other wants to add a missing piece. In both cases there is an underlying sense of need. Feeling incomplete in yourself, you try to bolster your lack through someone else. '

~ Depok Chopra - The Way of the Wizard

I'm guessing you must not be a native English speaker. Prince putting out shitty records has nothing to do with people's lives, good or bad. What you are arguing is that Prince's music is as good, (good being subjective, of course) as it ever was and it's his less-impressed fan's lives who have changed. This is not even remotely the case. I could give you PAGES of objective and direct examples. Musical analysis, lyrical analysis, etc. that illustrate what Prince is doing now is lazier and on a far less-inspired level than before relative to what the comlaining fans miss.

Prince may well be doing something that moves him greatly. What I'm saying is that Prince's music contains watered-down elements of the things that some people initially loved, therefore to these people Prince's music has become stale. The folks who are complaining about quality have very valid concerns based on the things they liked about Prince's older music. To many, Prince seems like a caricature of his former self. The family-friendly Disney crowd might prefer it, but the old fans liked the rawness, the honesty and the willingness to explore some darker places. If you like it, good. If someone else dislikes it, good. Regardless, Prince has rarely explored anything on more than a Junior High School poetry level, anyway.

owen said:

As much as I love LotusFlow3r, and enjoy some of the songs on 3121, Musicology, Planet Earth and 20Ten,

I haven't had the same 'first listen thrill' since Rainbow Children.

I remember putting that on with a fellow fan and sitting back, jaws a-gaping, thinking

"wow, what the hell is this??"

Now, I know TRC is an album that divides the fan base, but coming from a production and

musicianship point of view, I found it to be absolutely breathtaking. Still do.

And I haven't had the same feeling of wonder or excitement over the

opening track of a new Prince album since...

Was his tour in support of The Rainbow Children the last time he told the audience that, if they expected to hear the old hits, they were going to be disappointed? He definitely wanted to play those new tracks and get his message across whether the audience wanted to hear it or not. Not the case anymore.

You don't own him and he doesn't owe you anything.

2freaky4church1 said:

I used to get so excited about a Prince album. I'd take it home, smell it, look at it, read the liner notes before listening--I wanted to make the experience last. I would put on headphones and just take in every song. But now, nope! I listen to every song, yawn and move on to other things. It stopped being an event. The excitement is gone. Unless Prince stuns us with some new masterpiece I for one don't care much.

Make an album, wait another two years or three, I don't care, I will just enjoy the old stuff. Fuck it.

So you're not going to buy the next CD he releases?

Imaginative said:

mplsmike said:

Wait! i probably be excited if a bunch of outtakes were leaked

You mean like outtakes from albums that he wasn't even able to fill with good songs? At this point, I think it's safe to say that when your IN-takes aren't very strong, the outtakes won't be either.

u are probably right... we / i still lose

HonestMan13 said:

2freaky4church1 said:

I used to get so excited about a Prince album. I'd take it home, smell it, look at it, read the liner notes before listening--I wanted to make the experience last. I would put on headphones and just take in every song. But now, nope! I listen to every song, yawn and move on to other things. It stopped being an event. The excitement is gone. Unless Prince stuns us with some new masterpiece I for one don't care much.

Make an album, wait another two years or three, I don't care, I will just enjoy the old stuff. Fuck it.

So you're not going to buy the next CD he releases?

I haven't bought a new Prince album since NEWS...

Although a sort of still care, I think he only made one great album after 7 June 1993. Lotusflow3r. A lot of good records in the last 18 years, but not a lot of great ones.

It seems this might be for older fans, but I just go into Prince like last summer,and mainly in Augest, right after 20ten? so I haven't had that anticipation for a new album ...

electricberet said:

owen said:

As much as I love LotusFlow3r, and enjoy some of the songs on 3121, Musicology, Planet Earth and 20Ten,

I haven't had the same 'first listen thrill' since Rainbow Children.

I remember putting that on with a fellow fan and sitting back, jaws a-gaping, thinking

"wow, what the hell is this??"

Now, I know TRC is an album that divides the fan base, but coming from a production and

musicianship point of view, I found it to be absolutely breathtaking. Still do.

And I haven't had the same feeling of wonder or excitement over the

opening track of a new Prince album since...

Was his tour in support of The Rainbow Children the last time he told the audience that, if they expected to hear the old hits, they were going to be disappointed? He definitely wanted to play those new tracks and get his message across whether the audience wanted to hear it or not. Not the case anymore.

Yeah, but he still knocked out a bunch of hits on that tour . The popular consensus is that the ONA tour was all new or unheard material which was very far from the truth.

There are a few ONA shows where he says "if you came to get your Purple Rain on, you're in the wrong house," or words to those effect. Hey presto half a dozen songs later he plays Purple Rain....hehehe.

I'm not complaining though, fucking great tour.

owen said:

As much as I love LotusFlow3r, and enjoy some of the songs on 3121, Musicology, Planet Earth and 20Ten,

I haven't had the same 'first listen thrill' since Rainbow Children.

I remember putting that on with a fellow fan and sitting back, jaws a-gaping, thinking

"wow, what the hell is this??"

Now, I know TRC is an album that divides the fan base, but coming from a production and

musicianship point of view, I found it to be absolutely breathtaking. Still do.

And I haven't had the same feeling of wonder or excitement over the

opening track of a new Prince album since...

I'm not a fan of The Rainbow Children but I have to agree with you. Even at its very worst it's at least an interesting piece of work.

The only album opener since to catch my attention was 3121, it sounding somewhat like a return to SOTT/Black/Lovesexy era oddness.

Sadly it was merely a promising start that quickly went awry.

Meh. People have been debating/complaining about "new Prince music" vs. "old Prince music" since 1985, at least.

TheDigitalGardener said:

electricberet said:

Was his tour in support of The Rainbow Children the last time he told the audience that, if they expected to hear the old hits, they were going to be disappointed? He definitely wanted to play those new tracks and get his message across whether the audience wanted to hear it or not. Not the case anymore.

Yeah, but he still knocked out a bunch of hits on that tour . The popular consensus is that the ONA tour was all new or unheard material which was very far from the truth.

There are a few ONA shows where he says "if you came to get your Purple Rain on, you're in the wrong house," or words to those effect. Hey presto half a dozen songs later he plays Purple Rain....hehehe.

I'm not complaining though, fucking great tour.

Right, but at least he played his new songs and wanted people to listen to them. I expect if he had a real message he wanted to send in 20Ten he would have found some way to release it in the U.S. other than via basketball commercials.

InternationalLover82 said:

It seems this might be for older fans, but I just go into Prince like last summer,and mainly in Augest, right after 20ten? so I haven't had that anticipation for a new album ...

I'm assuming you're in the US when I ask this question. If you just got into Prince just based off the 20Ten album, how did you even come across that album to become a fan from it (since it was only "released in the UK")? Did someone happen to play it for you and you inquired who it was?

Just curious.

NouveauDance said:

I don't think Prince cares about his new music, and that transfers to his audience.

It seems like it, huh?

electricberet said:

TheDigitalGardener said:

Yeah, but he still knocked out a bunch of hits on that tour . The popular consensus is that the ONA tour was all new or unheard material which was very far from the truth.

There are a few ONA shows where he says "if you came to get your Purple Rain on, you're in the wrong house," or words to those effect. Hey presto half a dozen songs later he plays Purple Rain....hehehe.

I'm not complaining though, fucking great tour.

Right, but at least he played his new songs and wanted people to listen to them. I expect if he had a real message he wanted to send in 20Ten he would have found some way to release it in the rest of the world.

There, fixed for you.