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Reply #210 posted 06/18/11 12:14am

eugenius

It was the album that I started losing interest in. After Sign o the Times, I was in awe. And the follow-up, the Black Album, was the natural progression of Sign.

Then he over-reacted and put out Lovesexy... and it was just too flowery and timid... maybe even a little bit weak. In essence, no balls.

Lovesexy killed his momentum.

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Reply #211 posted 06/18/11 1:36am

mmart2008

U R MAD,HAS ANYONE ELSE NOTICED THE LE GRIND IS EYE NO SLOWED DOWN,

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Reply #212 posted 06/18/11 6:37am

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eugenius said:

It was the album that I started losing interest in. After Sign o the Times, I was in awe. And the follow-up, the Black Album, was the natural progression of Sign.

Then he over-reacted and put out Lovesexy... and it was just too flowery and timid... maybe even a little bit weak. In essence, no balls.

Lovesexy killed his momentum.

I will agree with you that Lovesexy "killed the momentum" if you meant the forward push for Prince to remain a top-10 hitmaker superstar.

But I'd rather say that it "altered" the course of his career. It pushed him to a new direction, which as a consumate artist, is essentially what he wanted. BLACK would've definitely made waves. Would've kept him in the "hot" list. BUT...as he did with ATWIAD (remember he speicifically did NOT want to follow up Purple Rain with "Orange Snow" or anything remotely similar)...he poured his soul out into an album that screams of his uniqueness.

What killed it for me was '200 Balloons' and the subsequent "Batman" sound. Then the scratching/mixing on his subsequent albums. And let's not forget the Game Boyz.

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Reply #213 posted 06/18/11 7:07am

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I've started a poll to rank the tracks on Lovesexy here:

http://prince.org/msg/7/361278

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Reply #214 posted 06/18/11 9:38am

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mmart2008 said:

U R MAD,HAS ANYONE ELSE NOTICED THE LE GRIND IS EYE NO SLOWED DOWN,

you mean the beat? What do you mean?

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Reply #215 posted 06/18/11 10:28am

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piepie1976 said:

Jon Bream, too.

Rolling Stone gave Graffiti Bridge a rave review too. As A kid I remember re-reading that review over and over again thinking they were reviewing a different album than the one I bought. True story.

Graffiti Bridge was hot as shit!! Whatchu talkin' about??

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Reply #216 posted 06/18/11 1:51pm

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PurpleJedi said:

eugenius said:

It was the album that I started losing interest in. After Sign o the Times, I was in awe. And the follow-up, the Black Album, was the natural progression of Sign.

Then he over-reacted and put out Lovesexy... and it was just too flowery and timid... maybe even a little bit weak. In essence, no balls.

Lovesexy killed his momentum.

I will agree with you that Lovesexy "killed the momentum" if you meant the forward push for Prince to remain a top-10 hitmaker superstar.

But I'd rather say that it "altered" the course of his career. It pushed him to a new direction, which as a consumate artist, is essentially what he wanted. BLACK would've definitely made waves. Would've kept him in the "hot" list. BUT...as he did with ATWIAD (remember he speicifically did NOT want to follow up Purple Rain with "Orange Snow" or anything remotely similar)...he poured his soul out into an album that screams of his uniqueness.

What killed it for me was '200 Balloons' and the subsequent "Batman" sound. Then the scratching/mixing on his subsequent albums. And let's not forget the Game Boyz.

disbelief

Maybe I am not understanding you but if Lovesexy "pushed him to a new direction, which as a consumate artist" then how do you explain the very commercial albums that immediately followed (Batman and Diamonds and Pearls)?

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Reply #217 posted 06/18/11 2:10pm

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eugenius said:

It was the album that I started losing interest in. After Sign o the Times, I was in awe. And the follow-up, the Black Album, was the natural progression of Sign.

Then he over-reacted and put out Lovesexy... and it was just too flowery and timid... maybe even a little bit weak. In essence, no balls.

Lovesexy killed his momentum.

^ NOOOOOO !!

opinions like this gives me a headache,

Lovesexy to me is so wonderful, a very uplifting album.

I love the blend of pop and soul and funk, all in one juicy blend.. new power soul. yes

I can only find 3 better Prince albums:

1. Purple Rain,

2. SOTT,

3. 1999

the 4th best Prince album to me is:

LOVESEXY. worship

Now lock this awful critical thread,

reason...... I am getting sick of critisism of a masterpiece,

you guys should clear your ears,

this is giving me a headache. smile

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Reply #218 posted 06/18/11 2:39pm

njin

I have always found arguments against Prince being gay or girly. But it's really difficult to do with LoveSexy :lol:on lovesexy he really is transexual and often just a whiney girl. Some might say that it's genuis or something. But he proved to be able to combine the feminine with the masculine years before this. With this one he just erased all of the masculinity left.

Actually his stage performance around these times are proving to be about the same as the album. Happy go lucky, eurovision vibes, sometimes extremely creative and some of his most amazing soloing on different instruments, both arrangement and visual effectsall over the place, and alot of random fun.

Still alot of great moments on this album when listening to it with an objective view

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Reply #219 posted 06/18/11 9:13pm

dandeeland

i agree...terrible album

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Reply #220 posted 06/19/11 12:29am

aiden

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It needs a re-mix, re-master and re-package. Still an amazing piece of pop art with incredible tracks. Especially the end of "lovesexy" and the incredible "when 2 r in love"
"Still Crazy 4 Coco Rock"
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Reply #221 posted 06/19/11 3:42am

funkomatic

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i agree...terrible album

says a guy who thinks "One of us" is Prince's absolute best song! Ridiculous! lol

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Reply #222 posted 06/19/11 3:56am

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There was no bigger Prince fan in the 80's than me.

I bought Lovesexy and TRIED To like it. I think I convinced myself I did at the time.

I saw the LS Tour Twice in NY at MSG and LOVED the show.

But I dont' think I played the album since the 80's. I really thought it was the "beginning of the end" and I'm pretty sure I was right.

I don't remember it as being funky at all, and found the production and the overall concept pretty annoying. I wanted to like it since Sheila and BOni were on it, but in all honesty I agree with original poster (terrible in the context of Prince's work).

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Reply #223 posted 06/19/11 7:14am

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rialb said:

PurpleJedi said:

I will agree with you that Lovesexy "killed the momentum" if you meant the forward push for Prince to remain a top-10 hitmaker superstar.

But I'd rather say that it "altered" the course of his career. It pushed him to a new direction, which as a consumate artist, is essentially what he wanted. BLACK would've definitely made waves. Would've kept him in the "hot" list. BUT...as he did with ATWIAD (remember he speicifically did NOT want to follow up Purple Rain with "Orange Snow" or anything remotely similar)...he poured his soul out into an album that screams of his uniqueness.

What killed it for me was '200 Balloons' and the subsequent "Batman" sound. Then the scratching/mixing on his subsequent albums. And let's not forget the Game Boyz.

disbelief

Maybe I am not understanding you but if Lovesexy "pushed him to a new direction, which as a consumate artist" then how do you explain the very commercial albums that immediately followed (Batman and Diamonds and Pearls)?

MONEY!!!

He needed money. Lovesexy's sales were dismal, and both Batman and Diamonds & Pearls made decent sales.

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Reply #224 posted 06/19/11 7:54am

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aiden said:

It needs a re-mix, re-master and re-package. Still an amazing piece of pop art with incredible tracks. Especially the end of "lovesexy" and the incredible "when 2 r in love"

There were unreleased remixes of some songs from it... like "Eye No".

It would be cool for him to do one of those concerts where all they play is a single album from beginning to end... and play a verion of Lovesexy with no loops or synth, just the power trio!

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Reply #225 posted 06/19/11 3:39pm

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Why did he never record anything again that sounded like Lovesexy? Why does he never perform any Lovesexy songs other than Alphabet Street? I don't get why he has gone so far away from his eighties vibe!!! Where is the lovely, wonderful free spirit of Prince these days??

How do u reckon Prince feels about Lovesexy??
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Reply #226 posted 06/19/11 4:10pm

rialb

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ufoclub said:

aiden said:

It needs a re-mix, re-master and re-package. Still an amazing piece of pop art with incredible tracks. Especially the end of "lovesexy" and the incredible "when 2 r in love"

There were unreleased remixes of some songs from it... like "Eye No".

It would be cool for him to do one of those concerts where all they play is a single album from beginning to end... and play a verion of Lovesexy with no loops or synth, just the power trio!

That I would be interested in hearing. Not sure how he could pull it iff with just drums, bass and guitar and no keyboards but it would be worth hearing him make the attempt.

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Reply #227 posted 06/20/11 4:32am

SoulAlive

rialb said:

SoulAlive said:

Rolling Stone gave it a rave review.

3 and a half stars out of five is a rave review?

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/albumreviews/lovesexy-19880616

They actually gave it four stars out of 5,but that only tells part of the story.Read what the reviewer wrote.This is nothing less than a rave review,back when RS actually had credibility:

Prince

Lovesexy

By David Browne
June 16, 1988

It make me dance, it make me cry," Prince purrs on the title track of his tenth album, "and when I touch it, race cars burn rubber in my pants." Longtime Prince fans (you know, the kind whose eyes mist over when recalling the Minneapolis Wunderkind's funk-infested pre-1999 era) have been waiting for him to sing those kinds of lyrics for years. And if you don't pay close attention at first, Lovesexy does indeed sound like old times. When he slyly sings, "Now come on and touch it, eye no U will love it," in the same song, the mind reels back to the days — almost a decade ago — when Prince pushed the barriers of racial and sexual expression as he sang of oral sex and of getting extremely chummy with his sister.

That is where the similarity to the salacious Dirty Mind-Controversy era ends, however. At the threshold of thirty, Prince may still be obsessed with the pleasures of the flesh — the in-the-buff cover shot is more than ample evidence of that — but the Prince of Lovesexy is a different man from the teenager whose first Top Forty hit, "I Wanna Be Your Lover," sneaked in lyrics like "I wanna be the only one you come for." Dense and murky even during its peppiest moments, Lovesexy catches Prince in moods we normally don't associate with him — frisky but contemplative, sly yet introspective. "It's time 4 new education, the former rules don't apply," he announces at one point, and he spends the rest of Lovesexy demonstrating just what those new rules are.

Beyond anniversaries and personal matters, Lovesexy arrives at a pivotal moment in Prince's musical career. While he's spent the last few years broadening his musical palette with soul psychedelia, movie soundtracks and the inspired patchwork quilt of last year's Sign o' the Times, plenty of lesser lights have built on his early trademarks, to the point where even a relatively flaccid talent like George Michael can successfully out-Prince the originator on "I Want Your Sex." Prince's initial retort was to whip out the now infamous "black album," originally scheduled for release last winter. Crackling with James Brown horn licks, assorted grunts and groans, guitar leads that burned into your skull and enough expletives to make the PMRC open a new branch, that album was shelved at the last minute for unspecified reasons in favor of Lovesexy, a new record (save for one track) that's as complex and indecisive as the black album was locomotive and sexual.

Lovesexy can be playful, too, when it wants to be. "Come a butterfly straight on your skin/U go 4 me and I come again," he squeals in "Glam Slam," a paean to simple physical urges. "Lovesexy," which plops his deepening voice in a bedrock of plush funk, also romps in sexual bravado: "Dig me now/Anyone that's ever touched it — they don't want nothing else." Fortunately, Prince still has enough of a sense of humor to mock his own bragging. In the spoken-word vamping that ends the song — "You want me to walk right down your halls/You want me to swim in your love sea, don't you, baby?" — he distorts his voice electronically, from a low growl to a squeal, as if mocking the sexual zeal with which he's become synonymous.

These blatant allusions to the earlier, hornier Prince could have easily deteriorated into self-parody; indeed, Lovesexy could well have had the dubious honor of being the first Prince record to take its cue from his own past, becoming his first regressive album in a career characterized by large strides. But thanks in large part to the seven-piece band with which he recorded the album — and which played on last year's European tour and in the Sign o' the Times movie — Lovesexy reveals how intricate and complex Prince's concept of funk has grown since 1980's Dirty Mind. "Eye No" opens the album with a jumbled barrage of Sly Stone wails, fatback bass lines, a grinding sax, wah-wah guitar and swarming backup vocals that continually collide with each other.

Similarly, the album's first single, a self-confident blast of bragging called "Alphabet St.," starts with chunky guitars and percussion, takes in bassist Levi Seacer Jr.'s popping bass line and meanders into a rap and a full-band vamp. The riveting "Dance On," a more urgent and nihilistic take on the party-till-the-apocalypse theme of "1999," is anchored by a machine-gun-like synth-bass part, squawking horns and Sheila E.'s jazzy, stuttering drums. By comparison, the linear grooves and near-disco rhythms of early classics like "Sexuality" and "Uptown" sound malnourished and underdeveloped.

Tracks like "Alphabet St." and "Eye No" are important in the context of Prince's recent work, for they show he hasn't lost his touch for inventive dance music; even the relatively uneventful "Glam Slam," which sports the album's blandest melody, puts every Prince clone of the last five years to shame. But a good chunk of Lovesexy isn't concerned so much with getting that special someone undressed and into bed as it is with making that elated feeling last. "When 2 R in Love" — the lone holdover from the black album — is a cushy R&B ballad tailor-made for the Stylistics. Couched in a warm bed of funk, Prince's wavering falsetto pleads, "Bathe with me/Let me touch your body 'til your river's an ocean.... Can U hear me?" (The difference, though, is that a group like the Stylistics would probably never sing a line like "When 2 R in love — their bodies shiver at the mere/Contemplation of penetration.") Likewise, the swirl of gorgeous harmonies in "I Wish U Heaven" may sound comforting, but it can't conceal the lyrics' nagging sense of uncertainty. "Doubts of our conviction/Follow where we go," he nearly whispers, and sure enough, by the end of the song, the relationship is over. "If I see 11, U can say it's 7," he concludes with more a sigh than a growl. "Still, I wish U heaven."

The new, humbled Prince singing these songs comes to a crux on "Anna Stesia," a slowly simmering ballad that brings Lovesexy's allusions to failure and loss to a (pardon the pun) head. An exercise in controlled intensity, the song builds from its simple piano-and-voice intro ("Have you ever been so lonely that U felt like U were the only/One in this world?" he softly intones at the song's beginning) to its shattering finale of synth blasts and guitar bursts. But as the layers of instrumentation build, so does self-doubt. "Maybe I could learn 2 love, I mean the right way, I mean the only way," he exhorts before turning to God: "Save me Jesus, I've been a fool/How could I forget that you are the rule?" Ultimately, the answer to this vague sexuality-versus-God issue goes unresolved — the song ends with the repeated lines "Love is God/God is love/Girls and boys love God above" — but the quest itself makes for a captivating ride.

"Anna Stesia," as daring in its own way as "When Doves Cry" or "I Wanna Be Your Lover," would have made a perfect finale for Lovesexy. Instead, that job goes to "Positivity," seven minutes of workmanlike grind on top of which Prince and band lay down a stream of positive advice: "Hold on 2 your soul/Don't kiss the beast, be superior at least.... We got a long, long way 2 go." Although the sentiments are certainly admirable, the somewhat dull melody and overlong arrangement are anything but, and Lovesexy ends on something of a stalled note. "Positivity" is too simplistic a finale for a work that can't begin to answer its questions of sex, love, God and morality, and it blunts the album's overall impact. Maybe Prince preferred to end the record on an upbeat note so as not to discourage those listeners introduced to him via the ejaculating guitar in Purple Rain or the power pop of "Little Red Corvette." But it wasn't necessary: the most successful moments on Lovesexy prove that the hardest questions may not lend themselves to easy answers but make for much better music.

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Reply #228 posted 06/20/11 8:29am

piepie1976

yea for some reason Rolling Stone goes back and alters their star reviews. i still have that original article clipped from the magazine and it was 3.5 stars.

another rave was from either the City Pages or the Twin Cities Reader. can't remember which one. they went BALLISTIC over it.

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Reply #229 posted 06/20/11 9:26am

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piepie1976 said:

yea for some reason Rolling Stone goes back and alters their star reviews. i still have that original article clipped from the magazine and it was 3.5 stars.

another rave was from either the City Pages or the Twin Cities Reader. can't remember which one. they went BALLISTIC over it.

I got the review too... let me check. Yep, you're right. 3.5 stars. they've changed it now online? No integrity.

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Reply #230 posted 06/20/11 9:38am

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^ Let's wait a few more years and Rolling Stone will give Lovesexy 5 out of 5, then lol

and by the way: Lovesexy deserves 5 out of 5...... IMO.

cloud9 yes

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Reply #231 posted 06/20/11 10:32am

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dawnboy999 said:

I don't understand the love affair with this album with so many critics and fans labeling it a classic. Besides Alphabet St the melodies are weak and forced not inspired. The production is derivative and not at all original. Princes vocals don't seem passionate and confident and songs like Lovesexy Dance on and Glam slam are some of the worst Prince songs ever put on a heavily promoted album. To me the irony is that for all the hate and sell out accusations of the follow up Batman soundtrack the songs on that album were far superior. Electric Chair ,Trust and Lemon Crush are much better than anything on Lovesexy.

Everyone has an opinion ; I love Lovesexy AND Livesexy, both in my top 5.

Talking about Batman : I love Electric Chair and The Future but I think Trust and Lemon are very weak!!!

I just loved the whole Lovesexy period, the 12' releases, b-sides (Escape!!!) and the broadcast of the Dortmund show. I lhave lisened 2 that show as much as any Prince album so....

and the song Lovesexy has been one of my fav 4 more than 20 years...this song IS Prince :

great groove, bass & guitar, horns and high/low voices.... yes

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