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Thread started 06/11/11 3:55pm

dawnboy999

In my opinion Lovesexy is a terrible album

I don't understand the love affair with this album with so many critics and fans labeling it a classic. Besides Alphabet St the melodies are weak and forced not inspired. The production is derivative and not at all original. Princes vocals don't seem passionate and confident and songs like Lovesexy Dance on and Glam slam are some of the worst Prince songs ever put on a heavily promoted album. To me the irony is that for all the hate and sell out accusations of the follow up Batman soundtrack the songs on that album were far superior. Electric Chair ,Trust and Lemon Crush are much better than anything on Lovesexy.
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Reply #1 posted 06/11/11 3:59pm

DaveG

In my opinion, your opinion.. is a terrible opinion....prince

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Reply #2 posted 06/11/11 4:06pm

Adorecream

I don't think so, alot of Batman sounds rushed and contrived. Okay the title track, Partyman, Electric Chair and the Fruture are funky, but little else. The lyrics are all based around batman or dancing and little else. The music and lyrics on Lovesey is deeper. Comparing Anna Stesia with Lemon Crush is blasphemy, Lovesexy is spiritually uplifting, it has a clean spiritual sound, he sings some beautiful falsettos and it has a lot cutsey pop like Glam Slam, ace ballads like Annastesia, Eye Wish U Heave, message songs like Positivity, Eye Know, and Dance On. Lovesexy (The song) is quite raunchy, and Alphabet Street is a funk masterpiece.

Most of the songs on Batman sound the same and the ballads are dross, the arms of Orion is unlistenable, Scandalous is better but self indulgent and songs like Trust and Vicki Waiting are total filler. If anything his quality standards had slipped a long way from Lovesexy.

Have you noticed when people talk about Prince's golden age, they usually stop at Lovesexy, and Batman is seen as the first self indulgent album. GB is better but patchy, alot of better songs mixed in with filler. Also Lovesexy was his last album where he was the trend setter, Batman is just following the typical dance music trends of 1988/89 S Expree, Mars, Technotronic, Blackbox etc.

The only album that sounds vaguely like lovesexy from 88 was Narada Michael Waldens "Divine Emotion" which like Rick James Beautiful ripped off parts of Lovesexy more than anything else.

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Reply #3 posted 06/11/11 4:06pm

Dave1992

You have to have been truly depressed once in your lifetime and have had listened to the album at that time. Then you can understand and appreciate it for the rest of your life. It's a very powerful album. You have to open your heart and mind to understand how to love it.

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Reply #4 posted 06/11/11 4:12pm

PRNelson

Dave1992 said:

You have to have been truly depressed once in your lifetime and have had listened to the album at that time. Then you can understand and appreciate it for the rest of your life. It's a very powerful album. You have to open your heart and mind to understand how to love it.

What does that even mean? It's mumbo jumbo.

As a side note, The 'Lovesexy saved me life' quote that gets banded around on here is embarrasing. If Prince had never made the comment that he received letters stating such i highly doubt should claims by fans would be made.

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Reply #5 posted 06/11/11 4:12pm

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Dave1992 said:

You have to have been truly depressed once in your lifetime and have had listened to the album at that time. Then you can understand and appreciate it for the rest of your life. It's a very powerful album. You have to open your heart and mind to understand how to love it.



I've never been clinically depressed - and I think it's fab.
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Reply #6 posted 06/11/11 4:13pm

The1592

Easily his worst album of the 80s for me. I love Alphabet St. and Anna Stesia, but Eye No, Lovesexy and Positivity are some of my very least favorite 80s songs. Musically, it's just generic funk, like The Black Album - none of it's particularly unique or interesting to me. Lyrically, being that I'm not Christian, the lyrics don't touch or move me in any way. I don't hate the album, but it's one of my least favorites.

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Reply #7 posted 06/11/11 4:15pm

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Genesia said:

Dave1992 said:

You have to have been truly depressed once in your lifetime and have had listened to the album at that time. Then you can understand and appreciate it for the rest of your life. It's a very powerful album. You have to open your heart and mind to understand how to love it.

I've never been clinically depressed - and I think it's fab.

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Reply #8 posted 06/11/11 4:19pm

dawnboy999

Dave1992 said:

You have to have been truly depressed once in your lifetime and have had listened to the album at that time. Then you can understand and appreciate it for the rest of your life. It's a very powerful album. You have to open your heart and mind to understand how to love it.


I can understand how you can truly bond with a Prince album if you're filled with melancholy. That happened with The Rainbow Chidren with me. But i still maintain that in 1988 Prince was still in the zone and the songs on Lovesexy are not that strong that being considered and when you look at them objectively.
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Reply #9 posted 06/11/11 4:21pm

The1592

Adorecream said:

Have you noticed when people talk about Prince's golden age, they usually stop at Lovesexy

When most people talk about Prince's golden age, it's usually Purple Rain (or 1999 or Dirty Mind) through Sign O The Times.

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Reply #10 posted 06/11/11 4:21pm

SoulAlive

I love this album.It's a classic Prince album in my opinion.It's not accessible like the other albums are...you have to really listen to it in order to "get" it.

"Anna Stesia","I Wish U Heaven","Alphabet St.","When 2 R In Love" and the title track are excellent...some of Prince's best work.

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Reply #11 posted 06/11/11 4:22pm

SoulAlive

The1592 said:

Adorecream said:

Have you noticed when people talk about Prince's golden age, they usually stop at Lovesexy

When most people talk about Prince's golden age, it's usually Purple Rain (or 1999 or Dirty Mind) through Sign O The Times.

hmmm I've heard alot of fans and critics say that Lovesexy was Prince's last brilliant album.

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Reply #12 posted 06/11/11 4:29pm

sirweasel

I am sorry but I don't get the point of this thread.

What was the point of starting this thread?

I am not trying to be mean or bust you chops but I can't really

see a reason for letting everyone know your opinion when we don't really

know you

So what are you trying to acomplish by posting this?

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Reply #13 posted 06/11/11 4:31pm

The1592

SoulAlive said:

The1592 said:

When most people talk about Prince's golden age, it's usually Purple Rain (or 1999 or Dirty Mind) through Sign O The Times.

hmmm I've heard alot of fans and critics say that Lovesexy was Prince's last brilliant album.

I've always heard the opposite.

Here's allmusic's review...

http://www.allmusic.com/a...809/review

They gave it a good rating (3.5/5), but also called it his worst album since 1981 and said "neither his music nor his lyrics are consistently well stated", and that "A handful of tracks are worthwhile".

I guess it didn't do as bad critically as I thought, but I still rarely hear anyone outside the hardcore fan base call it "classic". Oh well...

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Reply #14 posted 06/11/11 4:32pm

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sirweasel said:

So what are you trying to acomplish by posting this?

To provoke a reaction......probably.

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Reply #15 posted 06/11/11 4:33pm

The1592

sirweasel said:

I am sorry but I don't get the point of this thread.

What was the point of starting this thread?

I am not trying to be mean or bust you chops but I can't really

see a reason for letting everyone know your opinion when we don't really

know you

So what are you trying to acomplish by posting this?

I think they're trying to get other people's opinions on the album. I take it you must diagree with their opinion?

I also assume you don't understand that this site is for discussing Prince and his music, and many of the threads are about people's opinions of his music...

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Reply #16 posted 06/11/11 4:35pm

JoeTyler

I can only listen to it when I'm in the right mood : low, down, etc I kinda agree with Dave...

but I still think the production could have been much better, less "late-80's"...

and Eye No is a very weak nº1 song...

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Reply #17 posted 06/11/11 4:36pm

PositivityFore
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It made perfect sense at it's release if you had been following Prince since his career started and especially from 1984 on. When I listen 2 it know I realize why I still love this album so much!

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Reply #18 posted 06/11/11 4:36pm

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God!!! in 1988 eye was in prince heaven after the disapointment of Blenheim Palace in 87 Lovesexy was a shot in the arm 4 me!!!Then the tour!!!My god lovesexy live was the fucking best ever the car the stage sheila E/Boni/Cat/Miko/Eric/Matt One of the best years of my life!!!!.Anna Stesia/Dance On/Eye Wish U Heaven/Positivity & whenever eye listen 2 Glam Slam 88 is fresh in my mind!!!Happy Days...LoveSexy is masterful work!!!!.

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Reply #19 posted 06/11/11 4:37pm

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In my opinion, Lovesexy was the last album for a long time when Prince had a clear message to send to the world, a message that was personal to him and was expressed through brilliant and innovative music. Batman plays around with some of the same ideas, but using someone else's script. Graffiti Bridge is primarily a collection of souped-up outtakes, good songs but not coherent as an album. O+> has some kind of message but I can't understand it (maybe because I haven't seen the video). I voted for Lovesexy as the #1 album in the poll I did a while back, but I realize that's a minority view.

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Reply #20 posted 06/11/11 4:48pm

Tremolina

To be honest, I am happy dawnboy999 that you don't like it.

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Reply #21 posted 06/11/11 5:01pm

dawnboy999

electricberet said:

In my opinion, Lovesexy was the last album for a long time when Prince had a clear message to send to the world, a message that was personal to him and was expressed through brilliant and innovative music. Batman plays around with some of the same ideas, but using someone else's script. Graffiti Bridge is primarily a collection of souped-up outtakes, good songs but not coherent as an album. O+> has some kind of message but I can't understand it (maybe because I haven't seen the video). I voted for Lovesexy as the #1 album in the poll I did a while back, but I realize that's a minority view.


I can understand that Prince had a lot to say to the world but I don't think he said it well or with much emotion. At least the level of emotion we'd become accustomed from Prince. As far as the Batman album it seems he wrote songs like the Future and Electric Chair a while before he agreed to do the soundtrack and these songs evoke a much stronger reaction in me than songs like Eye Know and I wish you heaven. I agree arms of Orion is awful.
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Reply #22 posted 06/11/11 5:15pm

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dawnboy999 said:

electricberet said:

In my opinion, Lovesexy was the last album for a long time when Prince had a clear message to send to the world, a message that was personal to him and was expressed through brilliant and innovative music. Batman plays around with some of the same ideas, but using someone else's script. Graffiti Bridge is primarily a collection of souped-up outtakes, good songs but not coherent as an album. O+> has some kind of message but I can't understand it (maybe because I haven't seen the video). I voted for Lovesexy as the #1 album in the poll I did a while back, but I realize that's a minority view.

I can understand that Prince had a lot to say to the world but I don't think he said it well or with much emotion. At least the level of emotion we'd become accustomed from Prince. As far as the Batman album it seems he wrote songs like the Future and Electric Chair a while before he agreed to do the soundtrack and these songs evoke a much stronger reaction in me than songs like Eye Know and I wish you heaven. I agree arms of Orion is awful.

Are there Prince songs more emotional than "Anna Stesia?" To me that's about as emotional as music can get, and the lyrics are about as sophisticated as Prince lyrics get. The album tells the story of someone caught in a conflict between sexuality and spirituality who is able to resolve it in a positive way. As far as I'm concerned, the only other Prince album with an equally powerful message is The Rainbow Children, and he resolves the conflict there in a different way that I don't particularly like (follow your orders and don't mess with tradition).

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Reply #23 posted 06/11/11 5:23pm

dawnboy999

Anna stesia is a complex song but not a very good one. And I agree I loved The Rainbow children for what it was and tried to be.
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Reply #24 posted 06/11/11 5:26pm

Vict0r

Lovesexy is a great album. Batman, apart from Scandalous, is terrible.

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Reply #25 posted 06/11/11 5:35pm

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In my opinion Lovesexy is an incredible album.

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Reply #26 posted 06/11/11 5:35pm

bigbrother

For me parts of this album are brilliant - especially the Glam Slam segue into Ana Stesia, the rhythm of Dance On and the uniqueness of Alphabet Street. Yet, although it hangs together fairly well as a concept album, the music and lyrics of Positivity and I Wish U Heaven sound forced and dare I say it, dull.

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Reply #27 posted 06/11/11 5:43pm

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way too cluttered

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Reply #28 posted 06/11/11 5:45pm

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It is not a terrible album imo, but it's far worse than the rest of his 80's catalogue.

Classic 10/10 tracks: eye No, Anna Stesia, When 2 R In Love, eye Wish U Heaven

Under 8/10 tracks: Alphabet Street (would be 10/10 if he cut the second half), Glam Slam, Dance On, LoveSexy, Positivity (those three tracks are all below standards)

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Reply #29 posted 06/11/11 5:48pm

bonnie184

dawnboy999 said:

I don't understand the love affair with this album with so many critics and fans labeling it a classic. Besides Alphabet St the melodies are weak and forced not inspired. The production is derivative and not at all original. Princes vocals don't seem passionate and confident and songs like Lovesexy Dance on and Glam slam are some of the worst Prince songs ever put on a heavily promoted album. To me the irony is that for all the hate and sell out accusations of the follow up Batman soundtrack the songs on that album were far superior. Electric Chair ,Trust and Lemon Crush are much better than anything on Lovesexy.

Critics didn't label it a classic.

The most frustrating thing about this release, at the time, was the CD being 1 track. Warner Brothers let him do it too disbelief . You know how long it took me to fast forward to "eye wish u heaven" driving done the highway.

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