JoeTyler said:

Timmy84 said:

It got some really good songs on it, but classics? Er, I guess that's just your opinion.

The best ones: Future Soul Song, Lavaux, Sticky Like Glue (I don't even notice the rap anymore), Beginning Endlessly and Compassion.

oh, I've seen it before: the "it's not 80s material, so it can't be classic" syndrome a classic is a classic...new, old, or ancient lol, but a classic nonetheless...

with some veteran artists (Stones, The Boss, Prince, etc) it seems that anything they released after the 80s can't be classic material...

Like I said if you believe it, MORE POWER TO YOU!

But Joe I just have to ask you this simple question:

When you first listened to it for the very first time, how did you INITIALLY feel about it? Inquiring minds like to know...

Timmy84 said:

JoeTyler said:

oh, I've seen it before: the "it's not 80s material, so it can't be classic" syndrome a classic is a classic...new, old, or ancient lol, but a classic nonetheless...

with some veteran artists (Stones, The Boss, Prince, etc) it seems that anything they released after the 80s can't be classic material...

Like I said if you believe it, MORE POWER TO YOU!

powa! powa! POWA!

Also did you REALLY believe Prince was gonna put an album called 20Eleven?!

Honestly?! COME ON. Prince ain't that gullible.

He'll just come up with something new next year.

Militant said:

JoeTyler said:

so sad that many blockes here can't accept that 20Ten featured 4 INSTANT NEW CLASSICS

are we getting old/jaded or what?

Indeed.

"Beginning Endlessly", "Laydown", "Lavaux", "Future Soul Song" and "Sticky Like Glue" all JAM!!!! Classics in my book.

... so now jughead pt. deux is considered a classic?

Timmy84 said:

But Joe I just have to ask you this simple question:

When you first listened to it for the very first time, how did you INITIALLY feel about it? Inquiring minds like to know...

PRODUCTION: Superb

SONGS: 4 INSTANT CLASSICS (SLG,FSS,BE,LD), 3 VERY STRONG ALBUM TRACKS (L, C, AoG), 2 GOOD BALLADS, 1 TURD lol

Overall, I thought that yes, he went back for the Dirty Mind/Controversy formula, but with more mature (safe) lyrics and a more modern production, of course. I was very happy cuz after MPLSound, I thought that perhaps Prince had lost it as far as electro/funk goes, but with 20Ten he showed me (us) that he still has it, even if he (sadly) doesn't give a damn about sales, tours, promotion, etc.

Musicology, 3121, Lotus and 20Ten are a late-career winning streak for me

JoeTyler said:

Timmy84 said:

But Joe I just have to ask you this simple question:

When you first listened to it for the very first time, how did you INITIALLY feel about it? Inquiring minds like to know...

PRODUCTION: Superb

SONGS: 4 INSTANT CLASSICS (SLG,FSS,BE,LD), 3 VERY STRONG ALBUM TRACKS (L, C, AoG), 2 GOOD BALLADS, 1 TURD lol

Overall, I thought that yes, he went back for the Dirty Mind/Controversy formula, but with more mature (safe) lyrics and a more modern production, of course. I was very happy cuz after MPLSound, I thought that perhaps Prince had lost it as far as electro/funk goes, but with 20Ten he showed me (us) that he still has it, even if he (sadly) doesn't give a damn about sales, tours, promotion, etc.

Musicology, 3121, Lotus and 20Ten are a late-career winning streak for me

I like to know what was the TURD!

Timmy84 said:

Also did you REALLY believe Prince was gonna put an album called 20Eleven?!

Honestly?! COME ON. Prince ain't that gullible.

He'll just come up with something new next year.

it was a joke lol, but the fact is: most likely, 2011 will be like 2008 all over again: A BIG NOTHING...

JoeTyler said:

Timmy84 said:

Also did you REALLY believe Prince was gonna put an album called 20Eleven?!

Honestly?! COME ON. Prince ain't that gullible.

He'll just come up with something new next year.

it was a joke lol, but the fact is: most likely, 2011 will be like 2008 all over again: A BIG NOTHING...

Who knows what will happen next year... maybe he is on a break idk...

Timmy84 said:

JoeTyler said:

PRODUCTION: Superb

SONGS: 4 INSTANT CLASSICS (SLG,FSS,BE,LD), 3 VERY STRONG ALBUM TRACKS (L, C, AoG), 2 GOOD BALLADS, 1 TURD lol

Overall, I thought that yes, he went back for the Dirty Mind/Controversy formula, but with more mature (safe) lyrics and a more modern production, of course. I was very happy cuz after MPLSound, I thought that perhaps Prince had lost it as far as electro/funk goes, but with 20Ten he showed me (us) that he still has it, even if he (sadly) doesn't give a damn about sales, tours, promotion, etc.

Musicology, 3121, Lotus and 20Ten are a late-career winning streak for me

I like to know what was the TURD!

easy! it's not one of the two strong ballads, and I already mentioned the rest of the songs...so that leaves you just one clear/evident option lol

JoeTyler said:

Timmy84 said:

I like to know what was the TURD!

easy! it's not one of the two strong ballads, and I already mentioned the rest of the songs...so that leaves you just one clear/evident option lol

Sea of Everything or Walk in Sand?

[Edited 6/9/11 16:29pm]

Eh I'm gonna say Walk in Sand.

WRONG!!

he, I said that it's NOT one of the 2 STRONG ballads (WiS,SoE), which are fantastic, btw...

I don't know why 2011 would be quieter than 2010.

He did not even release an album in 2010 that you could buy anywhere.

20Ten struck me as an in-between kind of project, and despite what some may think, something like Lotus is more of a full-scale release.

So IMO he is due again for something this year. Though it is June already. Maybe early 2012 in time for the apocalypse

NDRU said:

I don't know why 2011 would be quieter than 2010.

He did not even release an album in 2010 that you could buy anywhere.

20Ten struck me as an in-between kind of project, and despite what some may think, something like Lotus is more of a full-scale release.

So IMO he is due again for something this year. Though it is June already. Maybe early 2012 in time for the apocalypse

oh c'mon, 20Ten spawned his last major US tour...and many europeans have the album lol

I mean, it's not like the Chocolate Invasion or the Slaughterhouse, more like a 2010 version of NPS (and def stronger)...

"Future Soul Song" is about it, for me.

It's all throwaway shit in autopilot. "Everybody Loves Me" is probably one of the better songs on there, despite it being really stupid.

JoeTyler said:

WRONG!!

he, I said that it's NOT one of the 2 STRONG ballads (WiS,SoE), which are fantastic, btw...

He only had three ballads though. Future Soul Song, Walk In Sand and Sea of Everything.

Track list as I remembered it:

1. Compassion (not a ballad)
2. Beginning Endlessly (not a ballad)
3. Future Soul Song (ballad and you named that the "classic" along with Beginning...)
4. Sticky Like Glue (not a ballad)
5. Act of God (of course you know by now)
6. Lavaux (not ballad)
7. Walk in Sand (BALLAD)
8. Sea of Everything (BALLAD)
9. Everybody Loves Me (if you call this a ballad I feel sorry for you )
10. Laydown

Now what was the OTHER ballad?

Well, Prince fans disagree a lot about Prince´s music. It happens more than other artists´ fans.

Everybody has their own taste, but to my ears 20Ten is not a great album. It has some nice songs - like on every Prince album - but its a forgettable album for Prince´s standards. I dont expect him to release an innovative album anymore, but 20Ten is auto pilot. It´s not the kind of album I would promote to my friends.

Timmy84 said:

JoeTyler said:

WRONG!!

he, I said that it's NOT one of the 2 STRONG ballads (WiS,SoE), which are fantastic, btw...

He only had three ballads though. Future Soul Song, Walk In Sand and Sea of Everything.

man, the turd is obviously ELM lol

and no, it's not a ballad

[Edited 6/9/11 16:41pm]

And if you count that "77 minutes of silence" nonsense...

JoeTyler said:

NDRU said:

I don't know why 2011 would be quieter than 2010.

He did not even release an album in 2010 that you could buy anywhere.

20Ten struck me as an in-between kind of project, and despite what some may think, something like Lotus is more of a full-scale release.

So IMO he is due again for something this year. Though it is June already. Maybe early 2012 in time for the apocalypse

oh c'mon, 20Ten spawned his last major US tour...and many europeans have the album lol

I mean, it's not like the Chocolate Invasion or the Slaughterhouse, more like a 2010 version of NPS (and def stronger)...

Exactly, NPS was an in-between project, too

I can't really call what he is doing now a proper tour. It's like the Hit 'n' Run tour of 2000 or 2001 whenever that was that he was in between Rave and The Rainbow Children, and in fact I doubt it is as extensive as that one--it's really only been 3 places, CA, NY & NC

JoeTyler said:

Timmy84 said:

He only had three ballads though. Future Soul Song, Walk In Sand and Sea of Everything.

man, the turd is obviously ELM lol

You named it a ballad.

Of course ELM is shitty, duh.

GustavoRibas said:

Well, Prince fans disagree a lot about Prince´s music. It happens more than other artists´ fans.

Everybody has their own taste, but to my ears 20Ten is not a great album. It has some nice songs - like on every Prince album - but its a forgettable album for Prince´s standards. I dont expect him to release an innovative album anymore, but 20Ten is auto pilot. It´s not the kind of album I would promote to my friends.

Exactly my point. I'm not disputing 20Ten is a good album (it was), to me it just seemed like he was, as you said, on auto pilot.

Timmy84 said:

JoeTyler said:

man, the turd is obviously ELM lol

You named it a ballad.

Of course ELM is shitty, duh.

? lol

I said it WASN'T one the 2 strong ballads

I don't consider FSS a ballad, more like an epic soul number... lol

epic soul...

JoeTyler said:

Timmy84 said:

You named it a ballad.

Of course ELM is shitty, duh.

? lol

I said it WASN'T one the 2 strong ballads

I don't consider FSS a ballad, more like an epic soul number... lol

epic soul...

You worded it to sound like it was.

Why couldn't you just say "the one song that was shit"?

I'm glad that this thread has showed you all that 20Ten was, after all, and excellent late-career album

Timmy84 said:

Exactly my point. I'm not disputing 20Ten is a good album (it was), to me it just seemed like he was, as you said, on auto pilot.

- Yes, ANY Prince album will be good, because he is a great musician/songwriter and has some ´quality control´. But I dont feel he was challenging himself or putting some passion on it.

[Edited 6/9/11 16:45pm]

Timmy84 said:

JoeTyler said:

? lol

I said it WASN'T one the 2 strong ballads

I don't consider FSS a ballad, more like an epic soul number... lol

epic soul...

You worded it to sound like it was.

Why couldn't you just say "the one song that was shit"?

because I'm this guy:

GustavoRibas said:

Timmy84 said:

Exactly my point. I'm not disputing 20Ten is a good album (it was), to me it just seemed like he was, as you said, on auto pilot.

- Yes, ANY Prince album will be good, because he is a great musician/songwriter and has some ´quality control´. But I dont feel he was challenging himself or putting some passion on it.

[Edited 6/9/11 16:45pm]

I compared it to 3121... he had more creativity in that one than here lol 20Ten is like "the legend resting on his laurels" kind of album. Laydown and Beginning Endlessly DID show some creativity.