beestonpoet1981 said:

MajesticOne89 said:

I have to call BS on this. Prince is my favorite, but MJ is right there at number 2 and for good reason. Realistically, how much more mature/deeper are songs like head, let's pretend we're married, dmsr, black sweat, kiss, do me baby than songs like I can't help it, why you wanna trip on me, the lady in my life, give in to me? Yes MJ couldn't do things like joy in repetition, anna steisa etc., but he was still deep in his on way; he's just not as preacy or pretentious as Prince can be. You may not have to trash MJ, but still dismissing him as some kids pop act like he's a one man backstreet boy or nsync is just as bad. NOW....back to this point on this thread....

Realistically songs like head,lets pretend,kiss,dmsr,black sweat etc aint much more deeper than the MJ songs that you listed .. However they proberbly are a wee bit more ADULT .as they are dealing sex in a way that some of them would come with a PARENTAL ADVISORY sticker that warns that the songs are not suitable for children ... Does that make them more MATURE? no ... I guess Prince lived a bit more ..so when he was singing about sex .. you knew he had done it.. MJ an sex will always be a mysterious thing ... He sang alot about girls .. but he never seemed to be interested in them .. Yeah he got married to Lisa Marrie .. but even that is mysterious ... an his kids have blonde hair an blue eyes .. an he had no interest in been with the mother .. He called himself a modern day peter pan .. an claimed to be like a child .. so i am sure that he wouldnt be offended by me saying that some of his music had a nieveness an childlike quality... This is a man who conected with children an spent most of his life befriending young boys an been around young boys .... an he claimed he did that cos he felt like a child an loved children ... so my saying that his music lacks the maturity of princes is no trashing of MJ .... Thats who he was ... Prince just seems like more grown up an adult music to me ... When I was a kid I used to love songs like BAD .. THRILLER etc .. an i was into MJ ... as I got older I got into PRINCE,SPRINGSTEEN,KINKS,CASH, etc ... an felt they were offerring more lyrically .. an kinda outgrew MJ ...... But I appreciate the maturity in HIStory etc .... mj is mysterious ... he sang alot about love an sex .. the way you make me feel .. dangerous sex .. etc ... but where did it come from ... an who was he singing about ?

If we're talking about the music what does any of his personal life issues matter? Yes, some of Prince's lyrics are more sexually explicit. However, vulgarity doesn't always meen maturity; most often than not it's actually the opposite. Just because MJ didn't have vulgar lyrics like "I want to fuck the taste out of your mouth," or "morning noon and night I'll give you head" doesn't mean he's restricted to the kid zone. He talked about a lot of adult issues in a mature way. I don't want our discussion to hamper this thread anymore (as it's unrelated and beating a dead horse) so if you'd like to continue our conversation PM me.

Emancipation89 said:

imago said:

no, MJ wouldn't have even required you to be female nor anywhere near the age of consent.

You guys are not cool and that joke is 20 years old

lol thats like the first time ive ever even played that card. im not stupid, i know he was never convicted. but it was wide open and i couldnt resist.

no pun.

dyvrdown said:

Emancipation89 said:

You guys are not cool and that joke is 20 years old

lol thats like the first time ive ever even played that card. im not stupid, i know he was never convicted. but it was wide open and i couldnt resist.

no pun.

That's literally what she said.

dyvrdown said:

Emancipation89 said:

You guys are not cool and that joke is 20 years old

lol thats like the first time ive ever even played that card. im not stupid, i know he was never convicted. but it was wide open and i couldnt resist.

no pun.

I'm 18, been a fan since last summer, I saw Purple Rain last Janurary and loved how wild he was, then deiced to get the movie and soundtrack. Then I heard 319 in Showgirls and really dug that so I got The Gold Experience next, then that was followed by most of his 80s albums which I fell in love with. and now have alot more

i'm old, but been a fan since 07.. saw a concert at the o2 & to be honest can't say i was blown away by it..

but over next few days checked out some clips. i decided this blokee was FINE!! found some o2 footage, controversy, joy in rep & peach! the superbowl stuff & that was it, purple hookage

I'm 16 and fan since 2008, so since I was 13.