im new to this cite, so this topic may have already been discussed (sorry in advanced)

but do you think prince follows every single guideline of his faith or do you think he bends the rules a little?

or do you think he still has the same lifestyle as before and uses his faith as a consciousness?

any other ideas?

when i saw him in san jose, he seemed reluctant that he couldn't really do his dirty songs

*for instance...he started the song for darling nikki and nasty girl and then he stopped them and said "im in rehab" making a cute pouty sad face.

he still exudes a lot of sexuality inadvertantly (which i like )

jalita said:

im new to this cite, so this topic may have already been discussed (sorry in advanced)

but do you think prince follows every single guideline of his faith or do you think he bends the rules a little?

or do you think he still has the same lifestyle as before and uses his faith as a consciousness?

any other ideas?

when i saw him in san jose, he seemed reluctant that he couldn't really do his dirty songs

*for instance...he started the song for darling nikki and nasty girl and then he stopped them and said "im in rehab" making a cute pouty sad face.

he still exudes a lot of sexuality inadvertantly (which i like )

I don't think he's as strict as he could be but I think he tries very hard to do what's right. but from what I understand, just the fact that he's in the "worldy" world of entertainment, he is violating JW code.

Be nice if he kicked away from JW. Mani became a JW for him. Bria became a JW for him.

Question: Is Mani still a JW? Bet Bria is.

I like m.any things about them, but they are too rigid. Does it affect his music?

Yes if he is a strict JW. Doesn't seem like he is. We see more casualness in his

performance than we saw from 2001-2010. I like the less formal Prince much

better.

Rake Funky.

He don't strike me as a strict JW. It's like when Michael was a JW. Probably loyal to it but not totally 100% into it as he tells it. The "old" Prince still shows up every now and then.

I was at the House of Blues second show, and he did the Gingerbread Man song. Yep, singing about puddles on the floor, jumping on his hips and whatnot. Anyway, I have to say that I enjoyed it.

It seems like the same story as Bob Dylan's conversion to born-again Christianity. Very intense in the beginning, then it petered out over time. I don't know what he does in his personal life; maybe he still holds regular prayer and Bible study meetings and knocks on doors trying to convert people. But listening to "Dance 4 Me," it sounds like the same horny dude we've always known. He doesn't explicitly refer to sex, but the sentiment is exactly the same as in "Dirty Mind." If he were a strict JW I don't think he'd have released MPLSound when he could be preaching to us about the new translation. Publicly disavowing the religion might be personally humiliating and hurt some people that he cares about. He apparently knows the boundaries of what he can get away with, and maybe they cut him some slack since he's so famous.

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You just have to look at Valentina and know that he isn't a strict JW

I think Prince thinks he is a "proper" Jehovah's Witness...

But as to whether he is, well, then that depends on how you yourself define what a "Jehovah's Witness" is. There are literally thousands of different Christian denominations, each with their own slightly different take on the Bible. And within them, you'll still find people who disagree on certain verses and points of view... And this would be no different for the Jehovah's Witnesses.

electricberet said:

Even if Prince left the JW faith, which I don't think he will, I don't think he would go back to singing four-letter-words on stage. It's cool and sexy for a wild young man to do that; less so for an aging rock legend. On the other hand, I could see him playing songs like Erotic City and just letting the audience sing the dirty parts.

jalita said:

electricberet said:

It seems like the same story as Bob Dylan's conversion to born-again Christianity. Very intense in the beginning, then it petered out over time. I don't know what he does in his personal life; maybe he still holds regular prayer and Bible study meetings and knocks on doors trying to convert people. But listening to "Dance 4 Me," it sounds like the same horny dude we've always known. He doesn't explicitly refer to sex, but the sentiment is exactly the same as in "Dirty Mind." If he were a strict JW I don't think he'd have released MPLSound when he could be preaching to us about the new translation.

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I know right? Its like cleaner lyrics but the same essence. Like a G rated version of prince is still sexual lol. But I noticed the same thing. He started off real strong with the JW thing and now I feel like he can't hold it any longer

I'm actually glad that he released MPLSound and 20Ten, because now I have Prince music I can play for my son when he's little without worrying about him teaching the F-word to everyone in his preschool. The lyrics are very sexual but it's easier to fly over the head of a kid who's too young for "Erotic City."

electricberet said:

Prince is not a real JW, and isn't trying to be.

802 said:

jalita said:

electricberet said:

Even if Prince left the JW faith, which I don't think he will, I don't think he would go back to singing four-letter-words on stage. It's cool and sexy for a wild young man to do that; less so for an aging rock legend. On the other hand, I could see him playing songs like Erotic City and just letting the audience sing the dirty parts.

I know it would be kinda corny. But it would be cool if he were more loose.

Right. I wouldn't even mind if he changed the lyrics when he played those songs live, as long as he doesn't change them on record. Just change "fuck" to "hug" in most of them and the problem is solved.

Hell no. He was, but he's cracking

Nope, I think Prince is stuck in his own world, and that being a JW some how fits into it. I've known some strict JW's and they werent at all like P, although religion does ordain some what of how a person maintains there life, and im sure he takes his religion into consideration, i mean the mans changed since converting, But Prince will do, what Prince likes even if it seems unfit, unsual or unfair to the rest of the world.

Same life style? No

Same man? Yes

Same message? Yes

Same mindset? No

802 said:

Prince is not a real JW, and isn't trying to be.

ecstasy said:

Hell no. He was, but he's cracking

ItsGonnaBLonely said:

Nope, I think Prince is stuck in his own world, and that being a JW some how fits into it. I've known some strict JW's and they werent at all like P, although religion does ordain some what of how a person maintains there life, and im sure he takes his religion into consideration, i mean the mans changed since converting, But Prince will do, what Prince likes even if it seems unfit, unsual or unfair to the rest of the world.

Same life style? No

Same man? Yes

Same message? Yes

Same mindset? No

I agree with this completely!

Is it even possible to not be a strict witness? Don't they shun anybody who doesn't toe the line?

You know, I really don't care how Prince chooses to express his spiritual beliefs. I just know the man is a musical genius and a great guitarist.

I was feeling a bit ill this evening. So I thought hmmmmmmm.......what would make me feel better.

Then I thought, "music."

So I went onto youtube and listened to the Rock & Roll Hall Of Fame - George Harrison Tribute - While My Guitar Gently Weeps.

Prince's solo was so wonderful and spiritually deep. Made me feel like I got a pure dose of "feel better now medicinal soundication." Thanks Prince. What ever your personal spiritual belief is makes no never mind to me. "YOU the MAN." I'm so very sure your God watches over you very well.

prince spanx the monkey every nite so NO!!

free2bfreeda said:

Vict0r said:

You just have to look at Valentina and know that he isn't a strict JW

*Bites lip*

People are wayyy too into what Prince believes considering that none of us know him and it doesn't affect us one way or the other.

armpit said:

armpit said:

People are wayyy too into what Prince believes considering that none of us know him and it doesn't affect us one way or the other.

It wouldn't be a problem if he was trying to get people to believe the stuff he's preaching about. To be honest, I doubt most of us are sunk into that. It's just we choose not to follow it once he does say anything related to it. To be honest, it's kinda like the Lovesexy period where he had a "spiritual epiphany". I'm seeing that same thing happen now.