Prince's beliefs and spirituality has always had an effect on his music. He has just grown up and matured. He will always do "HIM". A friend sent me the vid of Dance Close & Slow. and I watched it again last night and yes, he sang the part..."I want to come inside of you". NICE.

mzsadii said:

Prince's beliefs and spirituality has always had an effect on his music. He has just grown up and matured. He will always do "HIM". A friend sent me the vid of Dance Close & Slow. and I watched it again last night and yes, he sang the part..."I want to come inside of you". NICE.

Yeah, like I said, the "old" Prince is still alive and well. Now he should do "Do Me Baby" again!

mzsadii said:

Prince's beliefs and spirituality has always had an effect on his music. He has just grown up and matured. He will always do "HIM". A friend sent me the vid of Dance Close & Slow. and I watched it again last night and yes, he sang the part..."I want to come inside of you". NICE.

LOVE that performance, him & Cassandra were great; really enjoying his collaborations with guests on this tour.

Timmy84 said:

He don't strike me as a strict JW. It's like when Michael was a JW. Probably loyal to it but not totally 100% into it as he tells it. The "old" Prince still shows up every now and then.

:yeahtthat:

Jw my ass,yeah right!

I don't really know what you all mean by strict Jehovah's Witness...

My wife and many of her friends have been serious JW since they were kids--long before we met. Aside from not cursing, not fornicating and not celebrating holidays, they are just as normal as anyone else. We all listen to the same music, go to the same concerts, many of them consume alcohol (in moderation)...etc

I haven't met any JW, young or old, who is "oh, you can't do this or you will be banished"--aside from the 3 no no's I mentioned above.

Someone mentioned Prince is going against being a JW by even being in the "worldly" music business... No offense, but as far as I can tell, "worldy" is a Christian term and they're usually the ones who think you should only "sing for the lord". I've had JW's openly come to my shows and hang out and be totally supportive... and they really didn't have to.

I've even attended JW get togethers/parties...they dance and play the usual party tunes, minus anything with profanity.

The fact that a JW married me, and the fact that I've been treated with total respect by the entire congregation the one or two times I've gone to the Kingdom Hall just proves to me that the JW's aren't some strict exclusive cult and they are pretty open minded about many things.

What they aim for is living a clean, respectful life and carrying themselves a certain way. They interpret the Bible a certain way which is the basis of their religion, and there IS the door to door thing... but, I think many people have the wrong idea about JW's in general.

gemari77 said:

I don't really know what you all mean by strict Jehovah's Witness...

My wife and many of her friends have been serious JW since they were kids--long before we met. Aside from not cursing, not fornicating and not celebrating holidays, they are just as normal as anyone else. We all listen to the same music, go to the same concerts, many of them consume alcohol (in moderation)...etc

I haven't met any JW, young or old, who is "oh, you can't do this or you will be banished"--aside from the 3 no no's I mentioned above.

Someone mentioned Prince is going against being a JW by even being in the "worldly" music business... No offense, but as far as I can tell, "worldy" is a Christian term and they're usually the ones who think you should only "sing for the lord". I've had JW's openly come to my shows and hang out and be totally supportive... and they really didn't have to.

I've even attended JW get togethers/parties...they dance and play the usual party tunes, minus anything with profanity.

The fact that a JW married me, and the fact that I've been treated with total respect by the entire congregation the one or two times I've gone to the Kingdom Hall just proves to me that the JW's aren't some strict exclusive cult and they are pretty open minded about many things.

What they aim for is living a clean, respectful life and carrying themselves a certain way. They interpret the Bible a certain way which is the basis of their religion, and there IS the door to door thing... but, I think many people have the wrong idea about JW's in general.

no sex xcept in marrage/live thru jesus christ/only worship jah/careful what u allow urself 2 b xpossed 2 tv & music/preach the good news 2 all the inhabitable earth/associate only with other jw/learn the knowledge & teach the knowledge! its hard ok!!!!!!!!!

Thing is when I read the Jackson biographies, they mentioned that JW's were in danger of associating with people outside the religion or doing anything against it so I don't know if they're now more liberating or it's a misconception.

gemari77 said:

Hmmm. In the beginning he was talking a lot about studying the bible with Larry, Tina and several others. I doubt that he feels perfectly at home when attending a "kingdom hall" and he seems to have his own means of spreading "the word" (like, writing a pop song). He doesn't seem to be as close to Larry anymore, so I suspect he has a more moderate view of it these days.

I find the bible to be a terribly sprawling piece of literature. There are a lot of sections on it that do not make much sense and the syntax of the translations is terrible. It allows a lot of interpretation and personal reflection on the texts (which is why there exists so many different churches). I can sort of see why he finds it interesting and personally engaging. I suppose it's his interest in the book itself that makes him identify with the JW religion the most (most churches won't require you to even take a look at it).

I think everyone express their religion on their own way. Don't really believe in ''strict jehova'' or any other religion.

Prince is still Prince, so his naughty side is always there, even though he doesn't show it as much as when he was younger, but I think it's also more because of his age maybe?

But he still sing some sexual songs, but not the heavy ones. But I'm actually very surprised he does these songs too(Scandalous, etc) So I'm waiting till the day that he finally is gonna do ''Do Me Baby'' or ''Sexy M.F'' or ''Darling Nikki'' he could change some lyrics so..

I think he is Although, He's different from any of the jehovah's witness that I know of. Besides That though, Prince wants to work and make dat money,He obviously loves being a celebrity, and he knows that majorty of his fans Don't want to see the puritan, Spiritual nice guy , They want the Nasty rude boy their used to seeing.

The true answer is entirely between Jehovah and Prince.

Billmenever said:

The true answer is entirely between Jehovah and Prince.

Oh please.

He wasn't a strict Christian, vegan, or heterosexual. JW is no different.

electricberet said:

jalita said:

electricberet said: I know it would be kinda corny. But it would be cool if he were more loose.

Right. I wouldn't even mind if he changed the lyrics when he played those songs live, as long as he doesn't change them on record. Just change "fuck" to "hug" in most of them and the problem is solved.

NO!

Instrumental? Okay.

New Lyrics? No, No NO!

I can only hope and pray that Prince is at peace with his religion and his GOD. I dare not judge him!

pueroda said:

I can only hope and pray that Prince is at peace with his religion and his GOD. I dare not judge him!

Yes don't judge Prince because we all will be judge one day!

ladychel61 said:

pueroda said:

I can only hope and pray that Prince is at peace with his religion and his GOD. I dare not judge him!

Yes don't judge Prince because we all will be judge one day!

Yeh & im dreading it!!!!!!!im a bad bad man!!

jalita said:

im new to this cite, so this topic may have already been discussed (sorry in advanced)

but do you think prince follows every single guideline of his faith or do you think he bends the rules a little?

or do you think he still has the same lifestyle as before and uses his faith as a consciousness?

any other ideas?

when i saw him in san jose, he seemed reluctant that he couldn't really do his dirty songs

*for instance...he started the song for darling nikki and nasty girl and then he stopped them and said "im in rehab" making a cute pouty sad face.

he still exudes a lot of sexuality inadvertantly (which i like )

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Vict0r said:

You just have to look at Valentina and know that he isn't a strict JW

What Valentina are u talking about? Or is this a Joke or something? Because the song "Valentina" was written about Salema Hayek's daughter?

funkyrake said:

Be nice if he kicked away from JW. Mani became a JW for him. Bria became a JW for him.

Question: Is Mani still a JW? Bet Bria is.

I like m.any things about them, but they are too rigid. Does it affect his music?

Yes if he is a strict JW. Doesn't seem like he is. We see more casualness in his

performance than we saw from 2001-2010. I like the less formal Prince much

better.

Rake Funky.

If I'm not mistaken I believe Manuela was already a JW and Bria became a JW while being with Prince but, to answer the original posters question: I don't think P is devout but, he studies the NWT of the bible and puts a strong effort into being a good JW. How ... with what I've been hearing about hims socializing with this or that woman, lately. Go figure ...

I like to think the best of a person and that in their own way is doing their best to live up to their commitment. So I believe that he is trying his best.

wildgoldenhoney said:

I like to think the best of a person and that in their own way is doing their best to live up to their commitment. So I believe that he is trying his best.

I believe that also. An older woman from my congregation was talking to me in mid February when I told her that I had went to MSG to see Prince. She told me that she had just visited her daughter in Philly and went to the congregation there on Sunday and Prince was there. She said she had seem him present at that congregation since late December when she began frequent trips to visit her daughter and grands. So yes, I do believe Prince is doing his best. I always give people the benefit of the doubt.

InspirationalOne said:

wildgoldenhoney said:

I like to think the best of a person and that in their own way is doing their best to live up to their commitment. So I believe that he is trying his best.

I believe that also. An older woman from my congregation was talking to me in mid February when I told her that I had went to MSG to see Prince. She told me that she had just visited her daughter in Philly and went to the congregation there on Sunday and Prince was there. She said she had seem him present at that congregation since late December when she began frequent trips to visit her daughter and grands. So yes, I do believe Prince is doing his best. I always give people the benefit of the doubt.

I remember an article awhile ago that said that we shouldn't impute wrong motives to our brothers and sisters and believe that despite individual trials, that our brothers are trying their best as we are. That stuck with me and I try to see my brothers that way even if an occassion of disagreements came up between myself and any brother or sister. I myself don't like to be judged that I'm not doing my best and if anyone does judge me that way I kind of let it slide and try to be understanding and I guess I could take it a step further and examine myself to see what it is they saw that made them think that way about me. I mean it's hard surviving in this system of things and it's easy to falter.

Wait, did you say this past Sunday he was in Philly?

wildgoldenhoney said:

InspirationalOne said:

I believe that also. An older woman from my congregation was talking to me in mid February when I told her that I had went to MSG to see Prince. She told me that she had just visited her daughter in Philly and went to the congregation there on Sunday and Prince was there. She said she had seem him present at that congregation since late December when she began frequent trips to visit her daughter and grands. So yes, I do believe Prince is doing his best. I always give people the benefit of the doubt.

I remember an article awhile ago that said that we shouldn't impute wrong motives to our brothers and sisters and believe that despite individual trials, that our brothers are trying their best as we are. That stuck with me and I try to see my brothers that way even if an occassion of disagreements came up between myself and any brother or sister. I myself don't like to be judged that I'm not doing my best and if anyone does judge me that way I kind of let it slide and try to be understanding and I guess I could take it a step further and examine myself to see what it is they saw that made them think that way about me. I mean it's hard surviving in this system of things and it's easy to falter.

Because there are so many distractions in this system it is a lighter load when judging is left out of the equation and left to whom it belongs. Making the load lighter by getting rid of unnecessary worries makes way for you to concentrate on the load you are carrying that is necessary.

InspirationalOne said:

wildgoldenhoney said:

I remember an article awhile ago that said that we shouldn't impute wrong motives to our brothers and sisters and believe that despite individual trials, that our brothers are trying their best as we are. That stuck with me and I try to see my brothers that way even if an occassion of disagreements came up between myself and any brother or sister. I myself don't like to be judged that I'm not doing my best and if anyone does judge me that way I kind of let it slide and try to be understanding and I guess I could take it a step further and examine myself to see what it is they saw that made them think that way about me. I mean it's hard surviving in this system of things and it's easy to falter.

Because there are so many distractions in this system it is a lighter load when judging is left out of the equation and left to whom it belongs. Making the load lighter by getting rid of unnecessary worries makes way for you to concentrate on the load you are carrying that is necessary.

Good point. Judging doesn't belong to us, only to the Creator!

imago said:

Oh please.

He wasn't a strict Christian, vegan, or heterosexual. JW is no different.

wildgoldenhoney said:

Wait, did you say this past Sunday he was in Philly?

Not this past Sunday, this was back in February.