I remember reading once he wrote this for Stevie Nicks. Is this a myth or true? If its true did he ever record it himself? From what I know about Prince he usually gives people his own recordings of tracks for them to re-record. I don't recall him giving anyone a track on paper written.. Is this a myth or fact? Whats the real story?

funkylust said:

I remember reading once he wrote this for Stevie Nicks. Is this a myth or true? If its true did he ever record it himself? From what I know about Prince he usually gives people his own recordings of tracks for them to re-record. I don't recall him giving anyone a track on paper written.. Is this a myth or fact? Whats the real story?

http://www.inherownwords....ndback.htm

Love Love Love this song & sound. As sick as I am of all the covers he does I Would die if Prince ever coverd this one live.

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Thank you! Interesting! Never read that. Love it. Typical Prince..

That's confusing. So he inspired it, and she based it off Little Red Corvette, but then how much did he contribute at her house?

Wikipedia's entry claims he plays synths uncredited on the track, and sometimes gets a co-writer credit in Europe. Who knew!

If I remeber correctly Prince came in and provided the 2 finger sythn part.He did not write it or anything..course I was not there.

treehouse said:

That's confusing. So he inspired it, and she based it off Little Red Corvette, but then how much did he contribute at her house?

Wikipedia's entry claims he plays synths uncredited on the track, and sometimes gets a co-writer credit in Europe. Who knew!

He added a synth part, but because the track was inspired by LRC too, they gave him a credit (25% IIRC?)

Funklov said:

the Nude tour program has a page that lists all the songs that Prince has written for other artists and it includes Stand Back for Stevie Nicks.

Which was compiled by a fan and contains a bunch of errors, IIRC.

BartVanHemelen said:

Funklov said:

BartVanHemelen said:

Which was compiled by a fan and contains a bunch of errors, IIRC.

interesting that Prince would let a fan put together info like this for an official tour program. Doesnt sound like Prince

Back then there was an official fanclub etcetera.

Oh, and Mani also was a fan, remember.

BartVanHemelen said:

Funklov said:

BartVanHemelen said: interesting that Prince would let a fan put together info like this for an official tour program. Doesnt sound like Prince

Back then there was an official fanclub etcetera.

Oh, and Mani also was a fan, remember.

Hmm, I might be remembering this wrong. In any case, the list is far from complete (misses some Sheila E songs, for instance -- IIRC), but it is the only time Prince actually admitted in public to being involved with those tracks.

Yes Stevie Nicks could certainly not be telling the truth about the origins of the song. If Prince's tour book said he wrote it, I'd say it is likely that he did or at least had a big hand in it.

Stevie discusses Prince in this video.

FunkiestOne said:

Yes Stevie Nicks could certainly not be telling the truth about the origins of the song. If Prince's tour book said he wrote it, I'd say it is likely that he did or at least had a big hand in it.

I get the sense any time Prince adds two cents or even half a cent to a song that becomes massive, he's going to think he wrote it.

He must have been star struck to run over and help her tweak a synth part though.

I don't have teh album anymore, but Prince was credited on this song. I don't remember exaclty what for.

The Album is called "The Wild Heart" iirc

Did a Google and got his snippet:

but not many people are familiar with the number of collaborations she has had with some of our other favorite musicians. Who knew that Prince actually co-wrote Stand Back with Stevie?

From here:http://www.rodstewartstev...ckets.net/

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tyroniousdex said:

If I remeber correctly Prince came in and provided the 2 finger sythn part.He did not write it or anything..course I was not there.

You call it "a two finger synth part"?

Stevie didn't...

"I phoned Prince out of the blue, hummed a melody, and he listened," says Nicks of the latter hit's gestation. "I hung up, and he came over within the hour. He listened again, and I said, 'Do you hate it?' He said, 'No,' and walked over to the synthesizers that were set up, was absolutely brilliant for about twenty five minutes, and then left. He was so uncanny, so wild, he spoiled me for every band I've ever had because nobody can exactly re-create - not even with two piano players-what Prince did all by his little self."

Kinda like Dr Fink not being able to play the synth part for "I Would Die 4 U"...

"Everything was always played live. The only time he let Dr Fink use a sequencer was to play the rhythm part on ‘I Would Die 4 U’ from Purple Rain. Prince could play it live himself, but Dr Fink couldn’t"

Well when he was interviwed last year in NYC by WBLS he stated he had done "some" drum programming for the song.

Giovanni777 said:

Kinda like Dr Fink not being able to play the synth part for "I Would Die 4 U"...

That's odd if true. That means he can't really play synths.

There's nothing complex going on aside from chord progressions is there?

PositivityForever said:

Well when he was interviwed last year in NYC by WBLS he stated he had done "some" drum programming for the song.

Some of the drums do sound reminiscent.

FunkiestOne said:

Hmm, I might be remembering this wrong. In any case, the list is far from complete (misses some Sheila E songs, for instance -- IIRC), but it is the only time Prince actually admitted in public to being involved with those tracks.

Here's the live video of Stevie Nicks explaining stand back:

http://www.youtube.com/wa...re=related

I knew she was a big fan the minute I heard this song...

Sometimes it must make it easy to be on the same label to get other artists to work with you, and now we know Prince was a Fleetwood Mac fan... according to Stevie, he wanted to collaborate with her outside the recording studio, too. I think it just came down to her being deep into coke and just wanted to keep things professional with him. She made the right choice (and wound up with Eagles Joe Walsh in a really bad relationship), and wasn't leaving LA, although would P have moved to Phoenix?

Dave Stewart (another one who successfully worked with their ex like Stevie) just produced her new one, and they're anticipating a new FM album next year.

And I love how Destinys Child incorporated Stevie into their "Bootylicious" video.

Oh yeah - Colbie Caillat's dad produced the classic Mac albums.

I think originally Prince wasn't credited and somewhere along the line, his name was added to the credit.

I last saw her as special guest on the Tom Petty tour.

She has a website that she'll correspond through (the Nicks Fix) . I read she visits soldiers at Walter Reed a lot (military hospital), has spent money on hundreds of ipods with her favorite songs (and hers) as well as helping out widows of those fallen.

And check out the live versions of "Rhiannon" from the mid to late 70s on You Tube. Blows away the studio version.

I wonder if Prince ever blew cocaine up Stevie's bum???

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funkylust said:

so he would get 50% of the revenue for that track? Theory?

Nobody gave up 50% of publishing casually in those days....or today for that matter.

Doubt she even had 50% to give.

Artists were just more apt to contribute little helpers, or do a favor in a session back then.

Giovanni777 said:

Kinda like Dr Fink not being able to play the synth part for "I Would Die 4 U"...

"Everything was always played live. The only time he let Dr Fink use a sequencer was to play the rhythm part on ‘I Would Die 4 U’ from Purple Rain. Prince could play it live himself, but Dr Fink couldn’t"

Where is this quote from???

I believe the IWD4U part is the cymbals like percussion which runs throughout the song (sounds like "tss--tss-tsss-tss"). In PR you see Fink doing it on a keyboard.

treehouse said:

funkylust said:

so he would get 50% of the revenue for that track? Theory?

Nobody gave up 50% of publishing casually in those days....or today for that matter.

Doubt she even had 50% to give.

Artists were just more apt to contribute little helpers, or do a favor in a session back then.

Reportedly, Roth also disliked Eddie Van Halen's behavior regarding an appearance on Michael Jackson's 1983 hit "Beat It". Van Halen did not tell Roth that he had recorded the song for fear that Roth would prevent him from releasing it. In Crazy From The Heat, Roth writes that he approved of Van Halen's participation on "Beat It"; he believed that the Quincy Jones-produced track provided an excellent vehicle for Eddie Van Halen to showcase his talents. Roth later claimed that his issue with Eddie's participation on the track was that Eddie had declined to be paid for his work, receiving only a thank you note. Roth lamented, "We don't think alike at all."

Also: Eddie Van Halen played the guitar solo. He did it as a favor for Quincy Jones and was not paid, unless you count the two 6-packs of beer Jones brought into the studio for Eddie - "Eddie Van Halen recalled: "Everybody (from Van Halen) was out of town and I figured, 'who's gonna know if I play on this kid's record?' I didn't want nothing. Maybe Michael will give me dance lessons someday." (Source of above two quotes Q magazine August 2009).

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