Thread started 03/31/11 11:44amstarkitty |
Who was "The Dance" written for? Susannah?
That heifer has too many masterpieces under her belt. |
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Reply #1 posted 03/31/11 11:45am
Spinlight |
Naturally a song from 2003 would be about his girlfriend from 1983-1986. |
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Reply #2 posted 03/31/11 11:50am
Reply #3 posted 03/31/11 1:06pm
vitriol |
2003? I think the original version of the song hails from the Emancipation era. |
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Reply #4 posted 03/31/11 1:10pm
Genesia |
My guess is Manuela - given the timing and the very bitter "Divorce Remix" version that appears on 3121. We don’t mourn artists because we knew them. We mourn them because they helped us know ourselves. |
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Reply #5 posted 03/31/11 7:02pm
starkitty |
divorce remix, i like that. for some reason, i thought it was a crystal ball holdout. & susannah was a dancer who had the biggest impact. |
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Reply #6 posted 03/31/11 7:04pm
CocoRock |
Spinlight said: Naturally a song from 2003 would be about his girlfriend from 1983-1986. |
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Reply #7 posted 03/31/11 7:07pm
CocoRock |
starkitty said: divorce remix, i like that. for some reason, i thought it was a crystal ball holdout. & susannah was a dancer who had the biggest impact. 7 years in, and you're referring to Susannah as a dancer? |
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Reply #8 posted 04/01/11 5:16am
starkitty |
CocoRock said:
starkitty said:
divorce remix, i like that. for some reason, i thought it was a crystal ball holdout. & susannah was a dancer who had the biggest impact.
7 years in, and you're referring to Susannah as a dancer?
Among other things. |
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Reply #9 posted 04/01/11 5:35am
TwiliteKid |
vitriol said:
2003? I think the original version of the song hails from the Emancipation era.
What makes you think that?
And why do people insist on believing that every song Prince writes is based in reality? Do you really think he's had his heart-broken as many times as his songs suggest? |
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Reply #10 posted 04/01/11 5:57am
starkitty |
TwiliteKid said:
vitriol said:
2003? I think the original version of the song hails from the Emancipation era.
What makes you think that?
And why do people insist on believing that every song Prince writes is based in reality? Do you really think he's had his heart-broken as many times as his songs suggest?
Do you? |
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Reply #11 posted 04/01/11 6:08am
TheDigitalGard ener |
The Dance comes from sessions recorded in 1995-96.
I don't know if it was written during this period, but that is when it was recorded.
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Reply #12 posted 04/01/11 7:21am
TwiliteKid |
starkitty said:
TwiliteKid said:
What makes you think that?
And why do people insist on believing that every song Prince writes is based in reality? Do you really think he's had his heart-broken as many times as his songs suggest?
Do you?
No, I sure don't. |
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Reply #13 posted 04/01/11 8:29am
prodigalfan |
TheDigitalGardener said: The Dance comes from sessions recorded in 1995-96.
I don't know if it was written during this period, but that is when it was recorded.
This is why I always think the song was written about Mayte, who was his dancer in his band during the years it was recorded and the years prior... didn't she join NPG in 1993 as a dancer? "Remember, one man's filler is another man's killer" -- Haystack |
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Reply #14 posted 04/01/11 11:52am
TheDigitalGard ener |
prodigalfan said:
TheDigitalGardener said:
The Dance comes from sessions recorded in 1995-96.
I don't know if it was written during this period, but that is when it was recorded.
This is why I always think the song was written about Mayte, who was his dancer in his band during the years it was recorded and the years prior... didn't she join NPG in 1993 as a dancer?
Mayte first arrived in Minneapolis to work with Prince as early as December 1991.
She originally began work on the album, recording "However Much U Want," the track was left off the smbol album but turned up on her own debut in 1995.
And yes, she began dancing with prince on the tour for the symbol album.
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Reply #15 posted 04/01/11 11:59am
Genesia |
prodigalfan said:
TheDigitalGardener said:
The Dance comes from sessions recorded in 1995-96.
I don't know if it was written during this period, but that is when it was recorded.
This is why I always think the song was written about Mayte, who was his dancer in his band during the years it was recorded and the years prior... didn't she join NPG in 1993 as a dancer?
And that's exactly why I think it's about Manuela. The line about not wanting to see "her" dance is (I think) a reference to the fact that Mayte was a dancer. He doesn't want anything about his new one to remind him of his old one. We don’t mourn artists because we knew them. We mourn them because they helped us know ourselves. |
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Reply #16 posted 04/01/11 12:03pm
vitriol |
^Good point, but if the song actually belongs to the 95/96 sessions as is more or less believed then there's no place for Manuella... |
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Reply #17 posted 04/01/11 12:07pm
Spinlight |
vitriol said:
^Good point, but if the song actually belongs to the 95/96 sessions as is more or less believed then there's no place for Manuella...
We have no way of knowing what parts changed in that time. As you recall, the 2003ish version is drastically different than the 2006 (or whatever) version. Sorry, this track isnt high up there for me so I often get the 2 2000s versions' years of release confused. I guess there was one from 2005 and one from uh... NPGMC. |
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Reply #18 posted 04/01/11 12:16pm
TheDigitalGard ener |
Genesia said:
prodigalfan said:
This is why I always think the song was written about Mayte, who was his dancer in his band during the years it was recorded and the years prior... didn't she join NPG in 1993 as a dancer?
And that's exactly why I think it's about Manuela. The line about not wanting to see "her" dance is (I think) a reference to the fact that Mayte was a dancer. He doesn't want anything about his new one to remind him of his old one.
Maybe that line comes from Prince wanting to see more from Mayte than being just a dancer, hence her own album? And later she directed a couple of Prince's videos did she not?
Or maybe he wanted her to be a mother, not a dancer?
[Edited 4/1/11 12:17pm] |
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Reply #19 posted 04/01/11 12:59pm
Spinlight |
TheDigitalGardener said:
Genesia said:
And that's exactly why I think it's about Manuela. The line about not wanting to see "her" dance is (I think) a reference to the fact that Mayte was a dancer. He doesn't want anything about his new one to remind him of his old one.
Maybe that line comes from Prince wanting to see more from Mayte than being just a dancer, hence her own album? And later she directed a couple of Prince's videos did she not?
Or maybe he wanted her to be a mother, not a dancer?
[Edited 4/1/11 12:17pm]
I've always thought the song was him being kinda petulant with the "I don't wanna see you dance, I don't wanna make love, I don't wanna give you my heart" shit because he really DID want to do all that stuff. This is expanded upon in the end when he is saying things like he doesn't want to make love all the time, on the stairs, etc which we all know is complete bullshit.
Given that and given the claim that its from 1995-1996, I'd say it is a pretty good wedding-jitters kind of song. I am sure, at the time, he was well aware that Mayte wanted to marry him. |
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Reply #20 posted 04/01/11 1:07pm
mayrain |
Only the woman knows. Only she knows :)
Some really neat things said in this thread. Proverbs 23:9 |
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Reply #21 posted 04/01/11 1:09pm
TheDigitalGard ener |
mayrain said:
Only the woman knows. Only she knows Some really neat things said in this thread.
Yeah, who knows?
All I know is that I really like starkittys avi. |
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Reply #22 posted 04/01/11 4:57pm
pald1 |
starkitty said:
Susannah?
That heifer has too many masterpieces under her belt.
You know, I jus don't cayah! |
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Reply #23 posted 04/01/11 5:58pm
mayrain |
TheDigitalGardener said:
mayrain said: Only the woman knows. Only she knows Some really neat things said in this thread.
Yeah, who knows? All I know is that I really like starkittys avi. Proverbs 23:9 |
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Reply #24 posted 04/03/11 3:54pm
prodigalfan |
Genesia said:
prodigalfan said:
This is why I always think the song was written about Mayte, who was his dancer in his band during the years it was recorded and the years prior... didn't she join NPG in 1993 as a dancer?
And that's exactly why I think it's about Manuela. The line about not wanting to see "her" dance is (I think) a reference to the fact that Mayte was a dancer. He doesn't want anything about his new one to remind him of his old one.
Now that is a reason to reconsider my notion. "Remember, one man's filler is another man's killer" -- Haystack |
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Reply #25 posted 04/03/11 4:01pm
prodigalfan |
Spinlight said:
TheDigitalGardener said:
Maybe that line comes from Prince wanting to see more from Mayte than being just a dancer, hence her own album? And later she directed a couple of Prince's videos did she not?
Or maybe he wanted her to be a mother, not a dancer?
[Edited 4/1/11 12:17pm]
I've always thought the song was him being kinda petulant with the "I don't wanna see you dance, I don't wanna make love, I don't wanna give you my heart" shit because he really DID want to do all that stuff. This is expanded upon in the end when he is saying things like he doesn't want to make love all the time, on the stairs, etc which we all know is complete bullshit.
Given that and given the claim that its from 1995-1996, I'd say it is a pretty good wedding-jitters kind of song. I am sure, at the time, he was well aware that Mayte wanted to marry him.
Oh it is from this time frame? Well then I really think it is about Mayte. "Remember, one man's filler is another man's killer" -- Haystack |
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