MarySharon said:

SEANMAN said:

I keep hearing that Prince has said some nasty things about Janet over the years, but is there any proof of this? I do know that he was a consideration for a co-lead on Janet's "Love Will Never Do (Without You)", and that he supposedly had dinner with MJ, Janet and Latoya in the mid eighties. He has also performed "What Have You Done for Me Lately" in concert, and said "Y'all know who wrote this?" to the audience. Is he suggesting that he wrote it?

I was so sure when I was a kid that the first verse in Love Will Never Do was sung by a male co-leading voice, kind of Camilleish, I so wanted to know who it was and couldn't find anyone else credited for a so called duet in the CD booklet. I found out years later that Janet sung the whole thing when I first saw the video

Yeah, it was kind of jarring at first hearing Janet sing in her lower register.

Militant said:

Giovanni777 said:

I had heard that Janet originally wanted Prince to produce her album, and her parents forbade it... that they didn't want her dealing with Prince at all... so she got Jam & Lewis.

Yeah. Joe Jackson is definitely not a fan. The quote that appears in Janet's "Design Of A Decade" says that Joe said to J&L - "You guys are from Minneapolis. Prince is from Minneapolis. I don't want my daughter sounding like Prince".

Yeah!...and what's more, what kind of decision would it be for her to leave a controlling father...go to another who controls everything...to produce an album with her wanting 'Control'...lol...

She would've become a protege...

thedance said:

Vanity 6: Nasty Girl (1982)

was followed by:

Janet: Nasty (1986)

I know it's just the title they share,

But this "nasty girl image"..

is it a coincidence, or was Janet copying Prince's song, the image.....?

On the album "Design of a Decade" Janet admits she wanted that Prince sound and thats why she worked with Jam and Lewis. She says she was rebelling and that while everyone was listening to her brothers music at the time, she was listening to P. - she makes it very clear she was influenced by Prince's sound.

I wonder whether she is still rebelling given her onstage antics...

She wanted the 'Prince' sound?...huh?...what about all this 'strong' 'independent woman', 'don't need a man', meme I keep hearing in society?...(ok sarcasm / off...lol)

Create your own sound Janet.

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I will have to go back and listen to WHAT HAVE YOU DONE FOR ME LATELY? to see if I hear any of 100 MPH in it. I do remember thinking that I could hear parts of The Time's COOL in it around 4 mins or so. Does anyone else hear that at all?

That would make more sense because it was a Time song (Jimmy Jam/Terry Lewis played it a lot in concert) and it was written by Prince.

Prince saying "who wrote that?" during the Nude Tour makes more sense now.

Giovanni777 said:

I had heard that Janet originally wanted Prince to produce her album, and her parents forbade it... that they didn't want her dealing with Prince at all... so she got Jam & Lewis.

No. Jam and Lewis wanted to work with Janet and when Joe Jackson heard about it he told Jimmy "I don't want my daughter sounding like Prince".

From my knowledge Janet never expressed a desire to work with Prince and was actually contemplating working with Jam and Lewis because of their risqué music/sound.

In regards to Prince and Janet:

-She has always been hugely complementary of Prince and said during a RN interview how she loved "soft and wet". She even once said in an interview that growing up you're either a Prince or Michael fan - and she said she was a Prince fan.

- Prince was rumoured to be playing bass in disguise during Macy's "Love will never do" tribute at the MTV icon show

- He was apparently listening to "Damita jo" when it came out a reporter noted it in his CD collection when she/he was interviewing her in 2004).

- And we all know he's played WHYDFML quite a few times

- And his "sister of a genius" quote was Prince being Prince - awkward.

I don't think there is any truly bad blood or dislike between them.

I doubt Prince dissed Janet or anything and besides Janet WANTED to work with Jimmy & Terry since she was a bigger fan of The Time.

Well, I always said there was a period where they shared the same hairstyle. They're kindred spirits

I remember when "All For You" first came out, critics were saying "Would You Mind" was her "Do Me Baby".

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You know what?...some of Janet's dancing reminds me a lot of Prince's dancing...

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Whatever might have gone on between them in the 80's doesn't seem to show. I saw Janet at the Target Center during the Velvet Rope Tour and Prince sat alone in the roped off soundboard area during most of the show. If there was any bad blood between them, she wouldn't have allowed him to sit there I'm sure. Only a friend would have let another artist sit in their soundboard area.

SEANMAN said:

laurarichardson said:

The first couple of Janet albums are the Minn sound as far as I am concerned Prince might has well have produced those records. It is Jam and Lewis taking the Minn sound and watering it down a bit for the masses.

Janet's first album was far from the Minneapolis sound, because it was produced by Rene & Angela and The Sylvers. Her second album, "Dream Street" had Jesse Johnson on a couple of tracks, so I can see what you mean there. The Jesse-produced "French Blue" totally had that Prince sound, complete with backmasking and drum patterns (it's a mixture of the "Dream Street" tracks "Pretty Boy" and "Fast Girls").

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Kinda OT, but I liked this...

wasitgood4u said:

SEANMAN said:

Janet's first album was far from the Minneapolis sound, because it was produced by Rene & Angela and The Sylvers. Her second album, "Dream Street" had Jesse Johnson on a couple of tracks, so I can see what you mean there. The Jesse-produced "French Blue" totally had that Prince sound, complete with backmasking and drum patterns (it's a mixture of the "Dream Street" tracks "Pretty Boy" and "Fast Girls").

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Kinda OT, but I liked this...

Yeah, I always liked this one too...a reworked version of her 'Pretty Boy' yes...sounds like Jesse's sound...sucha sweetie back then b4 she became a freak

I'm not sure how much Prince respects her 'talent'...but here's hoping..

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early janet is very prince influenced.the first 2 jam and lewis lps.and it should be.jam and lewis was fresh from the time so all their productions sounded very "prince " and "time" like.which isnt a bad thing.

The only bad (or snarky) thing I can remember him saying was live during a perfomance of Get Wild. I can't remember if it was Astoria or Emporium. Where he says "who coming in here after us Janet Jackson?" Then Morris Hayes plays a sample that says "Oh no Muther Fucker not today" he then laughes and says "We'll leave that one alone"

It's probably just a light hearted joke

SEANMAN said:

Janet's first album was far from the Minneapolis sound, because it was produced by Rene & Angela and The Sylvers. Her second album, "Dream Street" had Jesse Johnson on a couple of tracks, so I can see what you mean there. The Jesse-produced "French Blue" totally had that Prince sound, complete with backmasking and drum patterns (it's a mixture of the "Dream Street" tracks "Pretty Boy" and "Fast Girls").

Jesse's own version of Fast Girls is so much better than Janet's though.

NouveauDance said:

SEANMAN said:

Janet's first album was far from the Minneapolis sound, because it was produced by Rene & Angela and The Sylvers. Her second album, "Dream Street" had Jesse Johnson on a couple of tracks, so I can see what you mean there. The Jesse-produced "French Blue" totally had that Prince sound, complete with backmasking and drum patterns (it's a mixture of the "Dream Street" tracks "Pretty Boy" and "Fast Girls").

Jesse's own version of Fast Girls is so much better than Janet's though.

I've never heard Jesse's version