OldFriends4Sale said:

IstenSzek said:

love it. start to finish. loved it from the first listen. absolutely stellar musical execution on this one.

never thought of the lyrics as too religious one way or the other. because it floats between a few

religions and cultures i dig it as a sort of made up mythology.

if you like any of his music, there's sure to be at least some songs of interest to you here

That's how I see it too, it plays on Prince's made up story combined with a few religious ideas. It's not a christian album at all. People need to get over that, check it out and stop listening to people scare tactics. I did for a while before I bought it, and next to all of his 1980s album the Rainbow Children is right there with it.

^^^ I never thought it was a "religious" album per se...but I always thought the "Darth Vader" voice was supposed to the the voice of a "higher power" even though it mentioned "God" in the third person... Clearly, I need to listen to it again!

emesem said:

there are some definite unChristian things in there unless you are member of the Westboro Baptist Church. Here are some of my favs:

"Every time I watch the other people's news"

"The Wise One who understood the law that was handed down from God long ago reflected the true meaning 2 his woman every day. And she surrendered her discerning of it into his care and keeping 4 she trusted he would lead in the right way."

"As prophesized, the Wise One and his woman were tempted by the Resistor.
He, knowing full well the Wise One's love 4 God,
assimilated the woman first and only.

"Holocaust aside, many lived and died
But when all truth is told, would U rather be dead or be sold?
Sold 2 the one who can now mate
The displaced bloodline with the white jailbait"

There's a theocratic order
There's a theocratic order (There's a way we gotta do things)

This is how it's gonna be
If U wanna be with me
Ain't no room 4 disagree (No room)

"First of all, the term "black and white" is a fallacy.

It simply is another way of saying "this or that".
Let's examine the term "this or that" in its ultimate form
which is: "this" means the truth or "that" which is resistant 2 it.

When a minority realizes its similarities on a higher level
not just "black", but "people of color", and higher still "indigenous", and even higher still, "from the tribe of", and yet higher:
"The Rainbow Children".
When this understanding comes, the so-called minority becomes a majority in the wink of an eye.
This action will cause a reaction or resistance.
The source of this resistance must be banished as it is in direct conflict with the initial action. It cannot be assimilated, 4 its very nature is resistance.
In other words, one cannot serve 2 masters.
U are either "this" or "that which is not this"."

Pleased 2 meet U, Mr. Rosenbloom

Pleased 2 meet U, Mr. Pearlman

Pleased 2 meet U Mr. Goldstruck"

ALMOST TEN YEARS ON AND GOD STILL DONT LIKE UGLY MR. NELSON

Yes, very much, most of that is racialized

purplerain14 said:

Mindflux said:

Sorry, but how is it NOT a Christian album?

JW is a CHRISTIAN faith. And, "The Everlasting Now", apparently one of your favourites, clearly states "Accurate knowledge of CHRIST and the Father, will bring the everlasting now".

Its very much a Christian album - of course, I'm open to you explaining how it isn't.

yes, this is a christian album....jw is a christian faith.

definitely worth getting!

so does that mean every album after his JW conversion is now christian or Jw? Does Lion of Judah automatically make Planet Earth a christian or JW album. No

the mythological-story that Prince makes up is not biblical or Christian

But YES definately worth getting, it's why in most of his 'christian' themed song never bothered me as preachy

God the Dance Electric

4 the Tears in Your Eyes

the Cross

Eye No etc etc etc

OldFriends4Sale said:

Mindflux said:

I'm not attacking you at all! Where have I done that. Its unfortunate you feel that way, because it is clouding your logic and rationalilty.

Lovesexy is a Christian album - the albums theme is largely finding salvation and redemption through God and Jesus. That makes it Christian and its far more pervasive than you suggest.

Eye No -"Eye No there is a heaven, I know that there's a Hell" - Christian concepts

"That's when I called HIS name, Don't you know he found me".

"I know there is a devil, because he talks so loud" etc etc

Anna Stesia - already mentioned and very obvious.

Lovesexy - certainly about loving God. Its even in the liner notes "Lovesexy - the feeling you get when you fall in love, not with a girl or a boy, but with the heavens above".

I Wish You Heaven - despite your semantic argument, its still about bestowing God's love.

Postivity - still alludes to the "devil's work" through Spooky Electric (euphemism for the devil).

Lovesexy is saturated with Christian belief and instructs people to love God for a better life. That is PREACHING Christianity and attempting to convert it's audience. This blows away your argument.

Purple Rain is not an obvious contender - but it still has its Christian themes. Prince himself said categorically that the "de-elevator" in the lyrics is the devil.

You said "the KKK also uses Christian ideas and themes and pray to Jesus, it doesn't make them Christian" - I won't pretend to know a great deal about the history of the KKK, but I do know that a majority were Protestant and were anti-Catholic. Do you know what that means? It means they were Christians! Anyone who prays to Jesus is a Christian. Whether they uphold all the values in the bible is another matter, as all denominations have their own ideas and interpretations. But, if someone believes in Jesus, regardless of their behaviour, then they are still a Christian.

Christian themes do not make something Christian. Clearly, I accept that - its all about context. You could be writing a piece with Christian themes, but which is actually anti-Christian. But, Prince doesn't write anti-Christian material - he is always PROMOTING Christian ideas and love of God, that's what makes his music predominantly Christian.

The Pharaoh is, of course, Prince. My opinion is that he uses this term to replace both the word "Prince" and also to convey his "kingship", him being at the top so to speak. Just because he uses an Egyptian metaphor there (and also with the Nato/Aten reference) doesn't mean this song isn't about Christian stuff. Her singing proverbs will make her his queen. Children protected by the word of God. Its all Christian dogma (albeit with the JW twist on things - but its still Christian).

Again, I'm aware of the Akashic Records and that its not a Christian concept. But, again, alot of Prince's religious meanderings are highly unconvnetional, so its hardly a surprise. Still doesn't detract from the album's overall theme.

I'm not going to dissect the lyrics you've posted, but from the very start it talks about God's law handed down long ago. Its talking about the Testaments and how JWs feel they have the right interpretation and went about building "a new nation" (the JW movement). Whilst its not a recital of the bible, it is based on the bible, the CHRISTIAN bible. The "banished ones" are non-believers and the Digital Garden is the modern world and media. Its all artistic expression to tell the JW story. And JWs are Christians.

You don't have to accept any of this, but there is so much evidence of Prince's Christian beliefs that it is ridiculous to pretend that Prince does not preach Christianity and believe that we'd all be better off believing in God.

For the record, I'm an athiest, but I believe people are entitled to believe in whatever they want and it doesn't affect my enjoyment of Prince's music. People who are in denial of Prince's religious projections may, however, have an issue!

we have very different ideas of Christianity. Very different I don't believe anything and everything can be considered christian. Ideology and mythology of christianity is one thing. Prince never confessed to be a Christian during Purple Rain or Lovesexy because he wasn't. Plain in simple.

I'm telling you non of that Digital Garden banished ones stuff is biblical. Anyone can pull what they want out the bible and make a story, doesn't make it Christian. I mean if some believes Jesus is God -the Son of God and they were talking to him face to face about this subject, I don't think he would say oh yes this is what I taught, this is my truth.

Again we can end this so it doesn't go crazy. You have your idea of it I have mine. We won't change each others idea. And that's cool. I LOVE this album

Ok, look - nobody is saying "anything and everything" can be Christian. That's clearly not the case. And, you yourself have hit the nail on the head there, without even knowing it. You said;

"if some(sic) believes Jesus is God - the Son of God" ......and there you have it! The globally accepted definition of what a "Christian" is! Someone who believes in Jesus Christ - there isn't another definition. And all this rubbish about what you think Jesus would think of what Prince sings about is irrelevant. You know what, I'll bet if Jesus were to return, he would look at all the evangelists on TV and think "This isn't what I taught!".

You can't really have your "own idea" as to what a Christian is, same as you can't say "black is white". You cannot look at a black table and say "Its a white table, I have my own definition of what white is", because it IS black by definition. There is no escaping that Prince believes in Jesus Christ and that, my friend, makes him and a lot of his music, Christian. JWs are Christians. Catholics are Christians. Protestants are Christians. Just because you think you can make up any definition you like, doesn't change a damn thing.

I love this album and I'm an athiest - is that supposed to mean anything?!

OldFriends4Sale said:

purplerain14 said:

yes, this is a christian album....jw is a christian faith.

definitely worth getting!

so does that mean every album after his JW conversion is now christian or Jw? Does Lion of Judah automatically make Planet Earth a christian or JW album. No

the mythological-story that Prince makes up is not biblical or Christian

But YES definately worth getting, it's why in most of his 'christian' themed song never bothered me as preachy

God the Dance Electric

4 the Tears in Your Eyes

the Cross

Eye No etc etc etc

Again, its not a difference between "being JW or Christian" - a JW album is still a Christian album! Lion of Judah doesn't make Planet Earth a JW or Christian album, but it does make that a Christian song. He's not singing about Ganesh, or Shiva, otherwise then it would be a Hindu song!

It very much seems to me that you have to have it in your mind that Prince is not singing from a Christian perspective, in order for you to enjoy or assimilate the music - fine, but it begs the question, what are your religious beliefs that push you in to such a denial of the facts?

Mindflux said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

so does that mean every album after his JW conversion is now christian or Jw? Does Lion of Judah automatically make Planet Earth a christian or JW album. No

the mythological-story that Prince makes up is not biblical or Christian

But YES definately worth getting, it's why in most of his 'christian' themed song never bothered me as preachy

God the Dance Electric

4 the Tears in Your Eyes

the Cross

Eye No etc etc etc

Again, its not a difference between "being JW or Christian" - a JW album is still a Christian album! Lion of Judah doesn't make Planet Earth a JW or Christian album, but it does make that a Christian song. He's not singing about Ganesh, or Shiva, otherwise then it would be a Hindu song!

It very much seems to me that you have to have it in your mind that Prince is not singing from a Christian perspective, in order for you to enjoy or assimilate the music - fine, but it begs the question, what are your religious beliefs that push you in to such a denial of the facts?

Will you please stop following my posts and trying to get into a debate. I already said you ahve your opinion I have mine. We are coming from 2 very different 'religious' places and that's ok. Let it go

Mindflux said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

we have very different ideas of Christianity. Very different I don't believe anything and everything can be considered christian. Ideology and mythology of christianity is one thing. Prince never confessed to be a Christian during Purple Rain or Lovesexy because he wasn't. Plain in simple.

I'm telling you non of that Digital Garden banished ones stuff is biblical. Anyone can pull what they want out the bible and make a story, doesn't make it Christian. I mean if some believes Jesus is God -the Son of God and they were talking to him face to face about this subject, I don't think he would say oh yes this is what I taught, this is my truth.

Again we can end this so it doesn't go crazy. You have your idea of it I have mine. We won't change each others idea. And that's cool. I LOVE this album

Ok, look - nobody is saying "anything and everything" can be Christian. That's clearly not the case. And, you yourself have hit the nail on the head there, without even knowing it. You said;

"if some(sic) believes Jesus is God - the Son of God" ......and there you have it! The globally accepted definition of what a "Christian" is! Someone who believes in Jesus Christ - there isn't another definition. And all this rubbish about what you think Jesus would think of what Prince sings about is irrelevant. You know what, I'll bet if Jesus were to return, he would look at all the evangelists on TV and think "This isn't what I taught!".

You can't really have your "own idea" as to what a Christian is, same as you can't say "black is white". You cannot look at a black table and say "Its a white table, I have my own definition of what white is", because it IS black by definition. There is no escaping that Prince believes in Jesus Christ and that, my friend, makes him and a lot of his music, Christian. JWs are Christians. Catholics are Christians. Protestants are Christians. Just because you think you can make up any definition you like, doesn't change a damn thing.

I love this album and I'm an athiest - is that supposed to mean anything?!

I TOTALLY agree, a lot of tv evangelist would be turned away. And they would say Jesus, we are Christian and he would sayNo your not.

No if someone believes Jesus is God- the Son of God it doesn't make them Christian. Biblically devils acknowledged that Jesus was the son of God, it don't make em christian.

Biblically a backslider is someone who turns away/turn their back on their faith. They can still believe Jesus is God but they are not Christian.

I don't have my own ideas. According to the bible their is only 1 way to be a disciple not 30.

I don't care what you believe athiest or not it's not a Christian album it a Prince album with all kinds of themes and mythos

purplethunder3121 said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

That's how I see it too, it plays on Prince's made up story combined with a few religious ideas. It's not a christian album at all. People need to get over that, check it out and stop listening to people scare tactics. I did for a while before I bought it, and next to all of his 1980s album the Rainbow Children is right there with it.

^^^ I never thought it was a "religious" album per se...but I always thought the "Darth Vader" voice was supposed to the the voice of a "higher power" even though it mentioned "God" in the third person... Clearly, I need to listen to it again!

me neither, that's what actually kept me away from it for a while but i heard snippets and of course saw it on sale and had a discount coupon. And said what the hell.

Glad I did.

I think the VOICE is like an angel or something lol walking us thru the story.

I've read Miltons Paradise Lost and the narrator reminds me of the VOICE

Love the cd-could do without the darth vader voice, but the music is nice. Last December will make u cry

Mindflux said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

so does that mean every album after his JW conversion is now christian or Jw? Does Lion of Judah automatically make Planet Earth a christian or JW album. No

the mythological-story that Prince makes up is not biblical or Christian

But YES definately worth getting, it's why in most of his 'christian' themed song never bothered me as preachy

God the Dance Electric

4 the Tears in Your Eyes

the Cross

Eye No etc etc etc

Again, its not a difference between "being JW or Christian" - a JW album is still a Christian album! Lion of Judah doesn't make Planet Earth a JW or Christian album, but it does make that a Christian song. He's not singing about Ganesh, or Shiva, otherwise then it would be a Hindu song!

It very much seems to me that you have to have it in your mind that Prince is not singing from a Christian perspective, in order for you to enjoy or assimilate the music - fine, but it begs the question, what are your religious beliefs that push you in to such a denial of the facts?

There is no difference between jw and christian!

mindflux is right, prince is singing from a christian perspective

purplerain14 said:

Mindflux said:

Again, its not a difference between "being JW or Christian" - a JW album is still a Christian album! Lion of Judah doesn't make Planet Earth a JW or Christian album, but it does make that a Christian song. He's not singing about Ganesh, or Shiva, otherwise then it would be a Hindu song!

It very much seems to me that you have to have it in your mind that Prince is not singing from a Christian perspective, in order for you to enjoy or assimilate the music - fine, but it begs the question, what are your religious beliefs that push you in to such a denial of the facts?

There is no difference between jw and christian!

mindflux is right, prince is singing from a christian perspective

There is a big difference just like Jehovah's Witness & Mormons are very different

Most Christian denominations:Baptist Pentecostal Protestant(I know the basic meaning of that) see the JW as something different.

No one denies his perspective on the album. Don't jump in the middle of an argument without understanding. The question is, is the album a Christian album, not what the influences are.

People also say Lovesexy is a Christian album, I say NOT, a lotof the music from Purple Rain is from a Christian perspective but doesn't make it that.

To anyone here. Not the JW denomination, has he ever admitted to being Christian? prior to his JW conversion? He never identified anything in this interview

When you talk abut God, which God are you talking about? The Christian God? Jewish? Buddhist? Is there any God in particular you have in mind?

Yes, very much so. A while back, I had an experience that changed me and made me feel differently about how and what and how I acted toward people. I'm going to make a film about it -- not the next one, but the one after that. I've wanted to make it for three years now. Don't get me wrong -- I'm still as wild as I was. I'm just funneling it in a different direction. And now I analyze things so much that sometimes I can't shut off my brain and it hurts. That's what the movie will be about.

Rolling Stone |
Article publication date: April 26, 1985

OldFriends4Sale said:

purplerain14 said:

There is no difference between jw and christian!

mindflux is right, prince is singing from a christian perspective

There is a big difference just like Jehovah's Witness & Mormons are very different

Most Christian denominations:Baptist Pentecostal Protestant(I know the basic meaning of that) see the JW as something different.

No one denies his perspective on the album. Don't jump in the middle of an argument without understanding. The question is, is the album a Christian album, not what the influences are.

People also say Lovesexy is a Christian album, I say NOT, a lotof the music from Purple Rain is from a Christian perspective but doesn't make it that.

To anyone here. Not the JW denomination, has he ever admitted to being Christian? prior to his JW conversion? He never identified anything in this interview

When you talk abut God, which God are you talking about? The Christian God? Jewish? Buddhist? Is there any God in particular you have in mind?

Yes, very much so. A while back, I had an experience that changed me and made me feel differently about how and what and how I acted toward people. I'm going to make a film about it -- not the next one, but the one after that. I've wanted to make it for three years now. Don't get me wrong -- I'm still as wild as I was. I'm just funneling it in a different direction. And now I analyze things so much that sometimes I can't shut off my brain and it hurts. That's what the movie will be about.

Rolling Stone |
Article publication date: April 26, 1985

Oh come one!! Are you really trying to suggest that there is some sort of ambiguity over Prince's religious beliefs?! Just because some hack for RS asked the usual, conservative, restricted question? And like Prince has ever been that personal, or even honest, in interview?! Please! How about just taking it from the evidence in his music?

As far back as 1981, he recites the Lord's Prayer (a CHRISTIAN prayer) on Controversy.

Various "God" references appear in his music from that point on, although they could be called "ambiguous" as to which god he is referring to, as I can't recall him mentioning Jesus in the tracks. However, by 1987, its pretty certain that he is referring to the Christian God, with the release of the song, "The Cross" - a song based on the most famous of Christian symbols. To further cement that fact, the following year, on "Annastesia", he sings "Save me Jesus, I've been a fool" - the first time I can remember him mentioning Jesus and, therefore, making it certain as to his religious leanings.

You suggest that JWs are somehow different to other Christians and, whilst there are differences between EVERY denomination (that's why there are denominations!), they are ALL still Christians if they believe in Jesus Christ.

You then suggest that its "perspective" and "influence" - I'd argue that its "influencing", in other words, preaching, in other words "spreading the word", in other words ATTEMPTING TO CONVERT. Take the lyrics to Everlasting Now;

"Accurate knowledge of Christ and the Father
Will bring the everlasting now
Join the party, make a sound (Join the party)
Share the truth, preach the good news"

The chorus says that everlasting life can only be had through "accurate knowledge of Christ" and invited people to join the party and "share the truth, preach the good news" - how blatant does it have to be?!

Colonized Mind suggests that "Without God, its just the blind leading the blind" - so, if you don't believe in his God, you don't know anything!

You cannot escapte the facts that Prince is actively PREACHING about his religion, which is a Christian one. That makes it a Christian album and you have yet to provide a convincing argument against this. Talking about "biblical devils" and shit just don't cut it - its Prince we're talking about and his obvious preaching of Christian ideals to his audience.

Peace and out!

[Edited 1/23/11 19:27pm]

Mindflux said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

There is a big difference just like Jehovah's Witness & Mormons are very different

Most Christian denominations:Baptist Pentecostal Protestant(I know the basic meaning of that) see the JW as something different.

No one denies his perspective on the album. Don't jump in the middle of an argument without understanding. The question is, is the album a Christian album, not what the influences are.

People also say Lovesexy is a Christian album, I say NOT, a lotof the music from Purple Rain is from a Christian perspective but doesn't make it that.

To anyone here. Not the JW denomination, has he ever admitted to being Christian? prior to his JW conversion? He never identified anything in this interview

When you talk abut God, which God are you talking about? The Christian God? Jewish? Buddhist? Is there any God in particular you have in mind?

Yes, very much so. A while back, I had an experience that changed me and made me feel differently about how and what and how I acted toward people. I'm going to make a film about it -- not the next one, but the one after that. I've wanted to make it for three years now. Don't get me wrong -- I'm still as wild as I was. I'm just funneling it in a different direction. And now I analyze things so much that sometimes I can't shut off my brain and it hurts. That's what the movie will be about.

Rolling Stone |
Article publication date: April 26, 1985

Peace and out!

[Edited 1/23/11 19:27pm]

Read back a few posts, I told you it's over, move on, stop stalking my posts

OldFriends4Sale said:

Mindflux said:

Peace and out!

[Edited 1/23/11 19:27pm]

Read back a few posts, I told you it's over, move on, stop stalking my posts

You haven't told me anything yet, mate! ?You've babbled on trying to support a very weak argument and have only further undermined your position.

You did say I should stop responding to your posts (don't know why, I guess if you can't stand the heat.....!), and then IMMEDIATELY responded to one of my posts! That's somewhat bizarre behaviour.

If you're going to continue to engage, which you did then and are doing now, then expect a retort.

Funny - yours is a typical response from someone who has nothing else of value to say! But, if you want to capitulate, that's fine by me.

[Edited 1/24/11 8:08am]

Mindflux said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

Read back a few posts, I told you it's over, move on, stop stalking my posts

You haven't told me anything yet, mate! ?You've babbled on trying to support a very weak argument and have only further undermined your position.

You did say I should stop responding to your posts (don't know why, I guess if you can't stand the heat.....!), and then IMMEDIATELY responded to one of my posts! That's somewhat bizarre behaviour.

If you're going to continue to engage, which you did then and are doing now, then expect a retort.

Funny - yours is a typical response from someone who has nothing else of value to say! But, if you want to capitulate, that's fine by me.

[Edited 1/24/11 8:08am]

#35

Will u let it go... seriously STOP

[Edited 1/24/11 8:16am]

OldFriends4Sale said:

Mindflux said:

You haven't told me anything yet, mate! ?You've babbled on trying to support a very weak argument and have only further undermined your position.

You did say I should stop responding to your posts (don't know why, I guess if you can't stand the heat.....!), and then IMMEDIATELY responded to one of my posts! That's somewhat bizarre behaviour.

If you're going to continue to engage, which you did then and are doing now, then expect a retort.

Funny - yours is a typical response from someone who has nothing else of value to say! But, if you want to capitulate, that's fine by me.

[Edited 1/24/11 8:08am]

#35

Will u let it go... seriously STOP

[Edited 1/24/11 8:16am]

See bold above

Does he have other band members singing on the album?

Mindflux said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

#35

Will u let it go... seriously STOP

[Edited 1/24/11 8:16am]

See bold above

No I will not see above bold

i would strongly recommend you save ur money and skip this one

sure theres lots of talk about the voice or theme and blah blah blah .. but the fact is its not a strong album at all .. lyrically he skips from quoting the bible to talking about sex toys .. in the same song .. the low voice narrations are exceptionally bad and ruins the title song which is actually one of the highlights of this record .. the 'work' is ok as is 'she loves me for me' but compared to say .. 'god' or 'the ladder' or any of his numerous other spiritual or even christian songs, this record sucks

i will take 'elephants and flowers' or 'the question of u' over this whole record any day

i really like the production .. instrumentation is soft and warm and organic sounding which is refreshing after all those alluminum can recordings that came out of the npgmc years .. but musically its still very bland and cartoonish .. and i cannot express enough how bad prince sounds when he is trying to kick as a rock or grunge band .. 'dreamer' failed as does 'family name' .. prince has skills but he is no jimi hendrix by a long shot .. prince writes better music sometimes but his tone and sound fail .. he just doesn't get heavy rock yet .. oh well

in conclusion .. i would strongly recommend you save ur money and skip this one .. buy all his wb prince releases first

I have not played this cd for a while. Time to listen to TRC again.

luv4u said:

I have not played this cd for a while. Time to listen to TRC again.

LOVE It I listen to the songs Rainbow Children & Everywhere all the time

I wish he had more videos and performances for this album. A really colorful project

OldFriends4Sale said:

luv4u said:

I have not played this cd for a while. Time to listen to TRC again.

LOVE It I listen to the songs Rainbow Children & Everywhere all the time

I wish he had more videos and performances for this album. A really colorful project

Family Name is playing right now

Family Name

Welcome.
U have just accessed the Akashic Records Genetic Information Division.
This program is required 4 those wishing 2 obtain
a marriage blessing from the kingdom.
When U wish 2 begin this program, place your right hand
on the scanner and tightly clench up your buttcheeks as U might feel a
slight electrical shock.
Please select the race history U desire.
U have selected "African-American".
This is your history:

First of all, the term "black and white" is a fallacy.
It simply is another way of saying "this or that".
Let's examine the term "this or that" in its ultimate form
which is: "this" means the truth or "that" which is resistant 2 it.

When a minority realizes its similarities on a higher level
not just "black", but "people of color", and higher still "indigenous", and even higher still, "from the tribe of", and yet higher:
"The Rainbow Children".
When this understanding comes, the so-called minority becomes a majority in the wink of an eye.
This action will cause a reaction or resistance.
The source of this resistance must be banished as it is in direct conflict with the initial action.
It cannot be assimilated, 4 its very nature is resistance.
In other words, one cannot serve 2 masters.
U are either "this" or "that which is not this".

End of part one.
2 continue, select the program "Family Name" and type in the
current government name U wish history on.

London, England, sometime in the early 1600's:

We have the God-given right 2 run out of our colony anyone
who does not bow down 2 our law
Hear, hear!
Hear, hear, exactly, that's what I said!
[Say I'm from the ...]
Hear hear, hear hear
Aye, yes, aye, aye!

Come on, come on, keep it moving here
Come on, now
What's your name boy?
Abu, Abu Cah
Well, it ain't now, it's Tom Lynch

Mirror, mirror what U see?
Have I still got those dark clouds over me?
Or am I really feeling what I feel?
The last days of the devil's deal
Oh mirror, what U see?

Devil, devil what U know?
U been here since 1914, but now U got 2 go
U been hidin' behind corporate eyes
U wanna war, but U can't fight
Oh devil, oh, U got 2 go, yes sir!

Bridge...
U might say, "what U mad about?"
But U still got your family name
Pleased 2 meet U, Mr. Rosenbloom
I'll be John Blackwell just the same
What's your family name?

Teacher, teacher what U say?
Did we really come over in a boat?
Did it really go down that way?
Or did I arrive before U and ruin Thanksgiving Day?
Oh teacher, oh, what U say?

Preacher, preacher is it true?
That Jesus wants me 2 give my money 2 the likes of U?
Ride around in your Lexus coupe
Drive us 2 the cleaners in a pinstripe suit
Oh preacher, that ain't truth!

The bridge, huh...
U might say, "what U mad about?
But U still got your family name
Pleased 2 meet U, Mr. Pearlman
U can call me "Clay"
Now can I play?

People, people what's your name?
Maybe we should start all over
Let everybody get in the game
Put up a one-gloved fist
Make a sound, Violet Brown

U might say "what U mad about?"
But U still got your family name
Pleased 2 meet U Mr. Goldstruck

We found this tape in the Akashic records.
This is Thomas Jefferson:

"My fellow Americans, if there is a just God, we're gonna pay 4 this!"

"Black men and White men, Jews and Gentiles, Protestants and Catholics
will be able 2 join hands and sing in the words of the old Negro spiritual:
free at last, free at last, thank God almighty we are free at last!"

Johnny B...

purplethunder3121 said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

That's how I see it too, it plays on Prince's made up story combined with a few religious ideas. It's not a christian album at all. People need to get over that, check it out and stop listening to people scare tactics. I did for a while before I bought it, and next to all of his 1980s album the Rainbow Children is right there with it.

^^^ I never thought it was a "religious" album per se...but I always thought the "Darth Vader" voice was supposed to the the voice of a "higher power" even though it mentioned "God" in the third person... Clearly, I need to listen to it again!

Let's follow the Voices story, there is a story somewhere there...

Rainbow Children

With the accurate understanding of God and His law
they went about the work of building a new nation:
the Rainbow Children.

The Wise One who understood the law
that was handed down from God long ago
reflected the true meaning 2 his woman every day.
And she surrendered her discerning of it into his care and keeping
4 she trusted he would lead in the right way.
Her children in subjection 2 her, and she in subjection 2 the Wise One.
The Wise One in subjection 2 the only Begotten One.

And 4ever is in subjection 2 God.

As prophesized, the Wise One and his woman were tempted by the Resistor.
He, knowing full well the Wise One's love 4 God,
assimilated the woman first and only.
Quite naturally, chaos ensued and she and 5 others were banished
from the rainbow 4ever.

The Wise One who understood the law that was handed down
from God long ago, held fast in his belief that the Lord
would bring him another one who loved him so.

Digital Garden

The Banished Ones approaching the palace shouted obscenities.
They tried 2 confuse the Rainbow Children and dethrone their king.
Using the lies promoted by the whosepapers, hellavisions, and scagazines,
The Banished Ones constructed a Digital Garden around the palace
That extended throughout the world.
Furthermore, they demanded compensation 4 their time
spent in the palace before the exile.
This was noise! (Fire, fire!)

'So be it', said the Wise One,
And gladly obliged with an invisible deed.
The Banished Ones accepted it
and returned 2 their place of birth in Menda City.
As 4 the Rainbow Children, they began deconstructing the Digital Garden.
Door 2 door they went in search of those willing 2 do The Work.

The Sensual Everafter

2 all his good brothers the Wise One spoke highly of his muse because
her love 4 the one true God was growing with every passing day.
So he said, 2 all a good night, sent them 2 bed early
and invited his muse 2 join him in the Sensual Everafter.

1+1+1 Is 3

As she fell into the Sensual Everafter - out of body, out of mind,
he stroked her hair a hundred times.
And as she fell deeper into the hypnotic unwind,
He counted his way into the suggestive mind.
Planting a seed that bears fruit on the tree.
He said, 'repeat after me, repeat after me, repeat after me,
1+1+1 is 3.'

Deconstruction

One after the other, the Banished Ones fled
as they watched from the distance the destruction of the Digital Garden.
With no more fruit 2 bear from its trees, the haze was finally broken.
And with the rains came the awareness that never again
would anyone ever lay claim 2 the treasures of the Rainbow Children.
As though awakened from a dream, the muse opened her eyes.
This time as queen.

Lol!!!! Wow Francis7 you really opened a can of worms here!!!! My advice would be to buy it & listen to it, if you don't like it,move it on or keep it as part of your collection.

I enjoy this album like so many have said but u really need to make your own mind up on it!

lovesexy06 said:

Lol!!!! Wow Francis7 you really opened a can of worms here!!!! My advice would be to buy it & listen to it, if you don't like it,move it on or keep it as part of your collection.

I enjoy this album like so many have said but u really need to make your own mind up on it!

I've ordered it and now I can't wait to get it! Everyone seems to have really strong opinions about this album!

Francis7 said:

lovesexy06 said:

Lol!!!! Wow Francis7 you really opened a can of worms here!!!! My advice would be to buy it & listen to it, if you don't like it,move it on or keep it as part of your collection.

I enjoy this album like so many have said but u really need to make your own mind up on it!

I've ordered it and now I can't wait to get it! Everyone seems to have really strong opinions about this album!

Lol! Yeah there is always a debate going on somewhere in here!!!

You sound like me when ure waiting for something to arrive!!! I don't think you will be disappointed with this album!!!

Francis7 said:

lovesexy06 said:

Lol!!!! Wow Francis7 you really opened a can of worms here!!!! My advice would be to buy it & listen to it, if you don't like it,move it on or keep it as part of your collection.

I enjoy this album like so many have said but u really need to make your own mind up on it!

I've ordered it and now I can't wait to get it! Everyone seems to have really strong opinions about this album!

2 of the best ways to listen to this album

1.) with a really good pair of headphones, so it will pick up all the sounds instruments echoes etc

2.) Playing it outload while doing stuff around the house, that way your not so focused on the words but you'll hear the music melodies and how the words are sung

I always hear music first how the words are sung 2nd 3rd what is actually being said

OldFriends4Sale said:

Francis7 said:

I've ordered it and now I can't wait to get it! Everyone seems to have really strong opinions about this album!

2 of the best ways to listen to this album

1.) with a really good pair of headphones, so it will pick up all the sounds instruments echoes etc

2.) Playing it outload while doing stuff around the house, that way your not so focused on the words but you'll hear the music melodies and how the words are sung

I always hear music first how the words are sung 2nd 3rd what is actually being said

Good advice- thanks!

Usually, I'll listen to new Prince album when I'm on the way to my grandmother's (which is a pretty long drive and I go about once a week) So I'm alone in the car and I turn it up surround sound! I'm loving rediscovering his old stuff that I haven't listened to in a while and albums I didn't bother to get-