Cerebus said:

Genesia said:

From what I've seen, Prince does not discriminate when it comes to getting paid.

What did Genesia ever do to you??? Keep your Surveyor's Marks to yourself!!

Spinlight said:

metallicjigolo said:

I doubt Very seriously much has changed in that arena. Prince is extremely charitable. He just doesn't advertise it like alot of celebrities do.

Yeah, but you're saying he isn't getting a fee for this, which goes against industry standard. He's not doing it for free, why would he do it for free? Pleeeeease. The tax deductible for the 1500 dollar ticket is like 300 bucks. Prince gets a cut.

Oh boy

Spinlight said:

Cerebus said:

What did Genesia ever do to you??? Keep your Surveyor's Marks to yourself!!

I thought that if you did a benefit gig you would do it free-so why is everyone mentioning money-am I wrong in this?

PurpleLove7 said:

Efan said:

Well, no sense not throwing this on here.

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My response every time I see that too

Prince is big old queen...don't listen to everything he says u know

Anyway I'm very surprised that hes doing this charity thing with George Michael, hes a complete arsehole. Isn't there more of a credible and more meaniful charity Prince could do around the USA?

This topic is utter garbage!! Prince doing this benefit more than likely has NOTHING to do with his personal feelings toward gays. This is a charity that PROMOTES ART WITH YOUTH!! Period.

Geez, some people will take everything and try to make it into something it isn't. Now if this charity were promoted to furthering the lives of gay youth, etc. then this might be a valid topic. But since this charity doesn't even mention anything about being gay, then this topic is pointless.

George Michael's sexuality doesn't define him and everything he does for pete's sake! And I'm utterly shocked at the amount of folks on here making generalizations and giving labels. These people doing so are the main ones that throw up a big fuss when someone labels them or makes assumptions about Prince.

Promoting a great thing (art among youth) has nothing to do with someone being a hypocrite just because they don't believe in the lifestyle of the person who's starting the great thing. This further shows what a good heart Prince has! No one here knows if he is getting paid or not...since this is a charity event and P is not all about money....his own actions prove this point clearly!

Regardless of the negative comments, this remains a wonderful thing that Prince is doing. I'm quite proud of him for taking the time to promote something that will benefit the youth of this country. And the miserable people who try to cloud this lovely event will fade when P takes that stage!!

chiltonmusic said:

ScottRob said:

Please read just one issue of the Watchtower, or look at the JW's view on gay marriage, before you come to the conclusion that Prince is open-minded. The fact that he's doing this gig only serves the purpose of proving that he is a hypocrite as well as a bigot.

He is neither hypocrite or biggot. Just because Christians don't condone gay marriage doesn't mean that we aren't supposed to express love and concern for our fellow man. Maybe you should pay attention to what is written in scripture as it pertains to sins and redemption.

Would Prince be a biggot if he said he didn't condone heterosexuals living together as oppossed to marriage? No but he would be speaking on scripture. I am uncomfortable with people on the left trying to characterize Christians as biggots. Quite frankly I don't think most of you know what that word means.

To actually answer this question...NO he wouldn't be. And him doing this benefit doesn't make him one either. I agree with you....just because someone doesn't condone homosexuality or gay marriage doesn't make them mean, hateful, hypocritical, or any other nasty remarks. Everyone in this world has a belief system...whether they want to admit it or not. They are all just based on different ideas. Those calling people bigots and hypocrites should take LONG look in the mirror!

Those "enlightened nonbelievers" are quite backwards in thinking if they think its perfectly normal or ok to call believers "loons" or say "they should just go make their own country somewhere else." Complete and utter nonsense and prejudice views....how ironic!

ScottRob said:

chiltonmusic said:

He is neither hypocrite or biggot. Just because Christians don't condone gay marriage doesn't mean that we aren't supposed to express love and concern for our fellow man. Maybe you should pay attention to what is written in scripture as it pertains to sins and redemption.

Would Prince be a biggot if he said he didn't condone heterosexuals living together as oppossed to marriage? No but he would be speaking on scripture. I am uncomfortable with people on the left trying to characterize Christians as biggots. Quite frankly I don't think most of you know what that word means.

"bigot" - a person who is utterly intolerant of any differing creed, belief, or opinion.

i on the other hand, am intolerant of arrogant ignorance,....oh, and bad grammar.

So you're admitting you're a bigot? What you call arrogant ignorance is what someone people call their beliefs.

Good for you..... seems you are "intolerant" of yourself. Everything you typed was to some people arrogant and ignorant.

^

Jesus, I think ur forgetting one point: Prince does label people big time and does do things for money only purposes. So ur rant is flawed.

i would love to know ih was getting paid. If he's not then it would be truly great.

treniselove said:

HonEMan said:

I gave up guessing or caring about Prince's motives/beliefs circa Rainbow Children. So yeah, whatevs.

Can I get on board that train too, lol

... allow me to have the seat next to ya [img:$uid]http://l.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/emoticons7/16.gif[/img:$uid]

catpark said:

^

Jesus, I think ur forgetting one point: Prince does label people big time and does do things for money only purposes. So ur rant is flawed.

And your opinion is flawed....who goes to work for free? Last time I checked, everyone works to make a living. Why does Prince have to be different? Any other celebrities work for free. Nope! So sure Prince performs to make a living..that doesn't mean that he won't do a free show, or that he is all about money. The way he has "sabotaged" part of his career should be more than proof of that. The man could be earning millions more than he does, yet he doesn't care about money when he don't want to be bothered. He works when he wants, not just when money comes calling.

And 2 wrongs don't make a right...that's so immature! "Prince calls me a this or that" so let me do the same. Please! Grow up! Some, if not most, of what you've heard about Prince labeling people could not even be true (or it could be). Just saying, just because someone does something stupid or mean, doesn't mean you have to respond in the same manner...unless that's what's in your heart anyway! Just don't forget those 2 points...

PurpleLove7 said:

treniselove said:

Can I get on board that train too, lol

... allow me to have the seat next to ya [img:$uid]http://l.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/emoticons7/16.gif[/img:$uid]

Oh yes more room over here!!!

OldFriends4Sale said:

pald1 said:

All very good reasons why the text is so discrepant and unreliable. Quick question: can you actually see this? Or do you think it's not the case? Or do you just choose to ignore? I'm interested to know how the religious mind works.

No it's not discrepant & unreliable. You don't believe in it so of course your not going to agree or see it as reliable. Your mind is religious too, you it's just athiest

Truth to me = factually verifiable information. Not a belief or a faith. Unlike you, I don't have an invisible means of support. You base your understanding of the world through unverifiable information...not good. That's why everything you say to me is white noise...it's very essence is flawed. How's that for choosing to ignore?

treniselove said:

pald1 said:

The Bible has warrants for both slavery and genocide...if you don't believe in this type of scripture, then you're simply not a Christian. I wonder how this fits in to Prince's version of The Truth?

People back in the "bible days" lived totally different from how people live their lives today. Stop criticizing God's word and balling it up into your theories it's just not worth it. So leave it alone! Thank you

P.S. If you look further in God's word you will notice miracles. People in those days had terrible experiences in their lives and have overcome by believing in God who had brought them through trials. Some have fell off the map and have worshiped idols like Baal who could not do crap because it can't move like God moves all because it's a golden statue. So stop focusing on the bad stuff in God's word, it's so irritating!

You're weird.

treniselove said:

PurpleLove7 said:

... allow me to have the seat next to ya [img:$uid]http://l.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/emoticons7/16.gif[/img:$uid]

Oh yes more room over here!!!

You two should get a room

DaphneLovesPR1NCE said:

catpark said:

^

Jesus, I think ur forgetting one point: Prince does label people big time and does do things for money only purposes. So ur rant is flawed.

And your opinion is flawed....who goes to work for free? Last time I checked, everyone works to make a living. Why does Prince have to be different? Any other celebrities work for free. Nope! So sure Prince performs to make a living..that doesn't mean that he won't do a free show, or that he is all about money. The way he has "sabotaged" part of his career should be more than proof of that. The man could be earning millions more than he does, yet he doesn't care about money when he don't want to be bothered. He works when he wants, not just when money comes calling.

And 2 wrongs don't make a right...that's so immature! "Prince calls me a this or that" so let me do the same. Please! Grow up! Some, if not most, of what you've heard about Prince labeling people could not even be true (or it could be). Just saying, just because someone does something stupid or mean, doesn't mean you have to respond in the same manner...unless that's what's in your heart anyway! Just don't forget those 2 points...

pald1 said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

No it's not discrepant & unreliable. You don't believe in it so of course your not going to agree or see it as reliable. Your mind is religious too, you it's just athiest

Truth to me = factually verifiable information. Not a belief or a faith. Unlike you, I don't have an invisible means of support. You base your understanding of the world through unverifiable information...not good. That's why everything you say to me is white noise...it's very essence is flawed. How's that for choosing to ignore?

Just a thought.... if truth to you is "factually verifable information" then you can't believe that there is NO GOD or that the Bible isn't true since this fact hasn't been proven..right?

DaphneLovesPR1NCE said:

pald1 said:

Truth to me = factually verifiable information. Not a belief or a faith. Unlike you, I don't have an invisible means of support. You base your understanding of the world through unverifiable information...not good. That's why everything you say to me is white noise...it's very essence is flawed. How's that for choosing to ignore?

Just a thought.... if truth to you is "factually verifable information" then you can't believe that there is NO GOD or that the Bible isn't true since this fact hasn't been proven..right?

I can't prove there is no God...but the onus is on you, surely, to prove there is. I say there is no proof either way. You say, there is proof he exists? Ok, show me?

pald1 said:

treniselove said:

Oh yes more room over here!!!

You two should get a room

... it ain't all that pald1 [img:$uid]http://l.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/emoticons7/22.gif[/img:$uid]

DaphneLovesPR1NCE said:

catpark said:

^

Jesus, I think ur forgetting one point: Prince does label people big time and does do things for money only purposes. So ur rant is flawed.

And your opinion is flawed....who goes to work for free? Last time I checked, everyone works to make a living. Why does Prince have to be different? Any other celebrities work for free. Nope! So sure Prince performs to make a living..that doesn't mean that he won't do a free show, or that he is all about money. The way he has "sabotaged" part of his career should be more than proof of that. The man could be earning millions more than he does, yet he doesn't care about money when he don't want to be bothered. He works when he wants, not just when money comes calling.

And 2 wrongs don't make a right...that's so immature! "Prince calls me a this or that" so let me do the same. Please! Grow up! Some, if not most, of what you've heard about Prince labeling people could not even be true (or it could be). Just saying, just because someone does something stupid or mean, doesn't mean you have to respond in the same manner...unless that's what's in your heart anyway! Just don't forget those 2 points...

You know i was with u up in the first half of ur post about him working for his money etc until i saw ur second half of ur purple rant, which u’ve totallymiss my point and have totally lost me

"Prince calls me a this or that" so let me do the same. Eh??

that'so immature! Please! Grow up! I probably have hangbags that are older than u, and my daughters write more intelligent stuff than this nonsense.

Just saying, just because someone does something stupid or mean, who Prince??

doesn't mean you have to respond in the same manner I don’t copy anyone and certainly not Prince, if anything I’m struggling to even be a fan these days after nearly 30 yrs of being one, things like the last 5 yrs of his music and going to the recent show in Arras etc has put me off a bit, oh and crazy fans.

unless that's what's in your heart anyway! Freedom for all mankind is in my heart and my family and friends.

Just don't forget those 2 points. ???

pald1 said:

treniselove said:

People back in the "bible days" lived totally different from how people live their lives today. Stop criticizing God's word and balling it up into your theories it's just not worth it. So leave it alone! Thank you

P.S. If you look further in God's word you will notice miracles. People in those days had terrible experiences in their lives and have overcome by believing in God who had brought them through trials. Some have fell off the map and have worshiped idols like Baal who could not do crap because it can't move like God moves all because it's a golden statue. So stop focusing on the bad stuff in God's word, it's so irritating!

You're weird.

No I just know God's word fully and not interpret into my theories. It is what it is! You can't change it and neither can I. Peace and move on!!

PurpleLove7 said:

pald1 said:

You two should get a room

... it ain't all that pald1 [img:$uid]http://l.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/emoticons7/22.gif[/img:$uid]

Thank you PurpleLove7

blackbob said:

NouveauDance said:

The big invisible superhero daddy plays second fiddle to the almighty dollar.

...i am starting to get pissed off with all this ..prince's be all and end all is money?......dont you think he could have earned a lot more during his career than the path he has taken since purple rain made him the biggest pop/rock star on the planet ?...of course money is important to him in the capitalist society we live in...has it is to all of us...but he has done many things to show that money is NOT the driving force for him....around the world in a day album....name me another artist who has released an album as weird and as different from a previously massive album as artwiad was from purple rain?...and released it 9 months after it?....i am amazed that of all the things warners and prince fought over....warners ALLOWED him to release artwiad so soon after pr as pr was still selling and it was normal practise to allow 2 or 3 years to pass between a big selling artists albums....him trying to release triple albums....dirty mind album after the 'safe' prince album...leaving warners and the corporate music machine and basically making himself backlisted by most big radio stations to be completely 'free' ....having limited releases of his albums like rainbow children...planet earth....lotusflower and 20ten instead of putting them out worldwide that would generate more money for him...

.

for me...his art has always been above how much money he can make....

treniselove said:

pald1 said:

You're weird.

No I just know God's word fully and not interpret into my theories. It is what it is! You can't change it and neither can I. Peace and move on!!

Can you be a bit more vague please?

treniselove said:

PurpleLove7 said:

... it ain't all that pald1 [img:$uid]http://l.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/emoticons7/22.gif[/img:$uid]

Thank you PurpleLove7

"PurpleLove." "TreniseLove." C'mon, you both have dirty minds...it's even in your names! AND, you're on a Prince fan site, and he had a song called "Dirty Mind." Treniselove, you'll appreciate this twisted logic...you're religious after all.

[Edited 1/11/11 13:57pm]

NouveauDance said:

Genesia said:

From what I've seen, Prince does not discriminate when it comes to getting paid.

The big invisible superhero daddy plays second fiddle to the almighty dollar.

Oh, here we go again..."all Prince cares about is money" blah blah blah. All you whiners line up to add your two cents.

-Why in the hell would he give away millions of 20Ten cd's in newspapers across Europe and England, when he clearly would have made more if he sold them in stores ? Not to mention the sales lost to Ebay and filesharing... Europeans selling cd's to fans overseas.

-Chevy's 50th anniversary of the Corvette ad aside, when have you seen ANY Prince songs used in ANY commercials?? He'd make MILLIONS selling his 80's catalog to advertisers.
-Why would he give every fan a musicology cd during the Musicology tour(I got 3), knowing many would have purchased it in stores for a much higher profit margin?

...And why would he go independent, when staying with Warner Bros - or any other major label -would clearly have kept him on the charts longer, with more hits, and much more exposure ? (keep in mind, publishing rights to his songs - which he has always had - brings in the most revenue, not owning the master recordings - which we all know was the motivation for his quarrel with WB).

The list goes on and on, but the truth is, he cares about his music first and foremost. Always has. Getting paid for years of working his ass off, the talent and first-hand production he has put into each and every song, album, movie, video, concert tour - I say power to him.

On the other hand, how many of us have countless bootlegs (vinyl, cassettes, cd's, vhs, dvd's, downloads) of studio recordings and live concerts that he didn't make a dime off ? Now think about how many bootlegs have been sold or downloaded since the mid 80's. I read somewhere the Black Album, alone, is the biggest selling bootleg of all time. Prince would be a billionaire by now if he made a dollar off every bootleg he ever sold. Now explain to me how he only cares about the money...?

pald1 said:

treniselove said:

Thank you PurpleLove7

"PurpleLove." "TreniseLove." C'mon, you both have dirty minds...it's even in your names! AND, you're on a Prince fan site, and he had a song called "Dirty Mind." Treniselove, you'll appreciate this twisted logic...you're religious after all.

[Edited 1/11/11 13:57pm]

Call it whatever you want. FYI I'm a believer not religious. Religious is for people who like to hear themselves quote scriptures but their hearts are far from it.

pald1 said:

treniselove said:

No I just know God's word fully and not interpret into my theories. It is what it is! You can't change it and neither can I. Peace and move on!!

Can you be a bit more vague please?

You need to get a life and stop trying to be a thorn. You're not pricking me hard enough to hurt my feelings so stop wasting your time posting ridiculous comments. It's making you look more smaller than what you really are. Seriously!