PurpleLove7 said:

... here we go again with the labels, boring, so boring. I like Wendy & Lisa's conclusion of Prince being 'fancy lesbian', which I was ROTFL when I read / heard that.

Is this the comment that got them a letter from his lawyer????

Well, no sense not throwing this on here.

jtfolden said:

PurpleLove7 said:

... here we go again with the labels, boring, so boring. I like Wendy & Lisa's conclusion of Prince being 'fancy lesbian', which I was ROTFL when I read / heard that.

Is this the comment that got them a letter from his lawyer????

I think so, but I believe it was addressed to Lisa

Prince is not gay.

Some musicians acted like gay or lesbians because of public relations, more scandalous stuff sells better. Nothing wrong with that.

This trend is coming back, and some real gay people are coming out from closets because public forgot about them. For example Ricky Martin came out of closet and giving interviews left and right, promoting his music and his book. Not bad, in business everything goes.

PurpleLove7 said:

ScottRob said:

Please read just one issue of the Watchtower, or look at the JW's view on gay marriage, before you come to the conclusion that Prince is open-minded. The fact that he's doing this gig only serves the purpose of proving that he is a hypocrite as well as a bigot.

Am I the only one that thinks P is picking and choosing what he feels is 'right' in the JW way of life? If the $ is there, he may not care. I don't expect that P would perform at an all homosexual venue or am I wrong? There are some JW's that are homosexual, there just has to be [img:$uid]http://l.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/emoticons7/3.gif[/img:$uid]

I'm with u on this one PurpleLove7

pald1 said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

Actually I find it hard to have conversations when too many divergent ideas get thrown in without prior consent. I find we/I get no where because too many different train of thoughts come in. Now if it's a conversation about this religious idea versus another, then it's laid out that that's what we are going to do.

What am I hypocritical about?

I study Greek & Roman religion culture and theology so I don't have a problem dealing with that. A lot of my artwork revolves around it. Egyptian Norse Hopi and many others. So no I don't have a problem juggling it. I think like to get to a conclusion quick. When I was 18 I had no problem, at 38 I just don't have the time. lol

This all went straight past my bat I'm afraid. Lose the BS and then we can talk.

Oh now your the one that can't juggle lol You have something totally different in your head and I don't think we really should or could have an all out discussion here. So I don't know what bs your talking about, but that kind of attitude has already shut down any discussion.

pald1 said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

Again, it we are going to discuss a topic or idea within the bible. It has to be understood within that framework. Pulling in Australian aboriginal religious ideas would just distract or hold up getting to a conclusion quickly.

The bible in itself isn't 1 book. And in that book God dealt with people differently at the same time. Example Abraham & Job were in the same time period/time frame. Gods dealing and requirements for Abraham were not the same for Job, 2 different covenants. What was required of Moses & King David was not required of by Abraham Isaac Jacob, nor Peter John or Thomas(12 disciple).

That's what I mean by sorta. Christianity was never supposed to be a 'national government' not a sword and shield army. Never so laws about slavery and genocide wouldn't apply in that way.

But back to the anti-gay thing. the original word(s) terms that too many now refere to meaning gay or homosexual in the bible had nothing to do with sexual orientation. I can pull it up later, but the word was in reference to temple prostitutes ie sodom(ites)

My arguement with Christians that say the bible says homosexuality is wrong have to go back to where they originally base that idea on, and in the Levitical code it never says anything about it being a sin or abomination for a woman to lie with a woman. And the Levitical code(Ceremonial laws) is very detailed very detailed. So the question would be is it wrong for 2 men but ok for 2 women it that passage is dealing with sexual orientation.

All very good reasons why the text is so discrepant and unreliable. Quick question: can you actually see this? Or do you think it's not the case? Or do you just choose to ignore? I'm interested to know how the religious mind works.

No it's not discrepant & unreliable. You don't believe in it so of course your not going to agree or see it as reliable. Your mind is religious too, you it's just athiest

Efan said:

Well, no sense not throwing this on here.

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irinact said:

Prince is not gay.

You don't know for sure.

chiltonmusic said:

ScottRob said:

Please read just one issue of the Watchtower, or look at the JW's view on gay marriage, before you come to the conclusion that Prince is open-minded. The fact that he's doing this gig only serves the purpose of proving that he is a hypocrite as well as a bigot.

He is neither hypocrite or biggot. Just because Christians don't condone gay marriage doesn't mean that we aren't supposed to express love and concern for our fellow man. Maybe you should pay attention to what is written in scripture as it pertains to sins and redemption.

Would Prince be a biggot if he said he didn't condone heterosexuals living together as oppossed to marriage? No but he would be speaking on scripture. I am uncomfortable with people on the left trying to characterize Christians as biggots. Quite frankly I don't think most of you know what that word means.

NICE!!!!

I thought it was for charity.

Surely he's not making any money from a charity event, right?!

chiltonmusic said:

ScottRob said:

Sure there is plenty I disagree with in the JW's and the Catholics and the Baptist and the United Methodist the list goes on. BUT I try to center all my beliefs on where they may differ on scripture. I still respect their beliefs and their desire to practice their faith as they see fit. I don't have to call them names are disrespect them just I defend them just like I defend a gay persons right to live openly and honestly. I don't have to call them "Loons" just like I don't engage in racial slurs or anti gay slurs.

Ironically, i see no love or concern in your response - besides, if i'm misguided, surely you can forgive me?

i on the other hand, am intolerant of arrogant ignorance,....oh, and bad grammar.

Now this is actually funny. There isn't a lick of mean spiritedness in my response nor insults, yet you call me ignorant and make fun of a typo (which is really immature but if that's making your day for you enjoy). Hmm whose not showing love? Surely in your vast expanse of spiritual knowledge you have gained in just living your life everyday you see that you are being a bit petty and immature right? Surely you see you are being a bit aggressive with someone expressing a different opinion right? I am going to guess you don't.

you weren't mean spirited at all.... and you weren't finger pointing either. I thought you were just writing what you believed. You certainly weren't disrespectful to anyone

Wtf is surprising about Prince doing a benefit for this foundation?

Our Mission

The Goss-Michael Foundation exists in order to provide a forum for British Contemporary art by presenting exhibitions, programs and resources to educate, engage, and inspire youth and adult audiences in the Dallas area and abroad.

History

The Goss-Michael Foundation was founded in June 2007 by recording artist George Michael and his partner Kenny Goss. Art lovers and avid collectors, the couple has been promoting art in one way or another for over a decade. In 2005, Goss and Michael opened Goss Gallery in Dallas, Texas, and through the gallery, they were able to infuse new international art into the local gallery scene. Often splitting their time between Dallas and London, they became friends and acquaintances with many of the artists in the so-called YBA movement. While building a considerable collection of works produced by this now infamous generation of artists, Goss and Michael began to feel there was a void within the Dallas arts community for the British contemporary art that had begun to define so many of the current artistic trends. After two years in the commercial art industry, Goss and Michael decided to expand beyond the scope of a commercial gallery into a non-profit art space. It is their personal conviction that art is meant to be shared, discussed and seen, not simply by collectors, who are financially able to purchase such works, but by everyone. Thus the Goss-Michael Foundation was formed out of a desire to share their personal collection with the public both locally and abroad.

The Foundation:

Educate, Engage, Inspire The Goss-Michael Foundation is dedicated to contributing to Dallas’s thriving artistic community and enhancing the public’s familiarity and interaction with mid-career and emerging British artists. Through the Foundation, the public is not only able to view the works of internationally renowned artists, but is also able to see the relationships that exist between them within the context of the collection. The Goss-Michael Foundation offers the public a rotating schedule of exhibitions that are changed on a quarterly basis throughout the year. The majority of works featured in each exhibition are derived from, and inspired by, the collection. However, with each new exhibition, the Foundation also has the unique opportunity to partner with other institutions as well as the artists themselves. In an effort to keep exhibitions innovative, the artists are often invited to participate in the curatorial process and encouraged to produce new artwork specifically for the occasion. Since 2007, the Foundation has had the privilege of hosting many collection artists including Tracey Emin, Marc Quinn, James White, Tim Noble & Sue Webster, Michael Craig-Martin, Richard Patterson and Jeremy Deller. While here, the artists participate in talks, tours, lectures, and performances that are often held in collaboration with other Dallas art institutions. This affords the public the distinctive opportunity to learn about the art from the artist themselves and promotes strong ties within the local art community.

In addition to its stimulating exhibitions, the Foundation has assembled a resource center, providing a library and archive of research materials for the benefit of students, educators and aspiring young artists, as well as a growing scholarship program benefiting Texas high school seniors. Since 2007, over $50,000 in scholarships has been awarded to visual arts and music students enabling them to pursue a higher education in the arts. The Foundation also hosts an annual student art contest, Saturday Sketch days, and internships for university students, as well as tours throughout its regular exhibition schedule. Admission Admission is free of charge, but donations are gladly accepted. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Parking Parking is free and available on the side of the building.

What does anything written here have to do with being pro or anti gay? Did anybody even read the damn thing? It's a benefit for art and aspiring artists.

Stupid question and equally stupid responses.

pald1 said:

treniselove said:

Ok why can't you accept Christians belief instead of calling them scripture reading loons. They have an opinion as well. So you need to chill.

The Bible has warrants for both slavery and genocide...if you don't believe in this type of scripture, then you're simply not a Christian. I wonder how this fits in to Prince's version of The Truth?

People back in the "bible days" lived totally different from how people live their lives today. Stop criticizing God's word and balling it up into your theories it's just not worth it. So leave it alone! Thank you

P.S. If you look further in God's word you will notice miracles. People in those days had terrible experiences in their lives and have overcome by believing in God who had brought them through trials. Some have fell off the map and have worshiped idols like Baal who could not do crap because it can't move like God moves all because it's a golden statue. So stop focusing on the bad stuff in God's word, it's so irritating!

Efan said:

Well, no sense not throwing this on here.

Wow that's scary, lol. Just imagine umm nevermind to dirty, lol.

jtfolden said:

PurpleLove7 said:

... here we go again with the labels, boring, so boring. I like Wendy & Lisa's conclusion of Prince being 'fancy lesbian', which I was ROTFL when I read / heard that.

Is this the comment that got them a letter from his lawyer????

Oh snap! He really tripped over that HILARIOUS Fancy Lesbian tee??!!

I gave up guessing or caring about Prince's motives/beliefs circa Rainbow Children. So yeah, whatevs.

Would be nice to think this is Prince being more tolerant and rejecting bigoted religious views, but I don't think we can read that much into it.

HonEMan said:

I gave up guessing or caring about Prince's motives/beliefs circa Rainbow Children. So yeah, whatevs.

Can I get on board that train too, lol

OldFriends4Sale said:

PurpleLove7 said:

Am I the only one that thinks P is picking and choosing what he feels is 'right' in the JW way of life? If the $ is there, he may not care. I don't expect that P would perform at an all homosexual venue or am I wrong? There are some JW's that are homosexual, there just has to be [img:$uid]http://l.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/emoticons7/3.gif[/img:$uid]

I'm with u on this one PurpleLove7

Genesia said:

blackbob said:

...i am starting to get pissed off with all this ..prince's be all and end all is money?......dont you think he could have earned a lot more during his career than the path he has taken since purple rain made him the biggest pop/rock star on the planet ?...of course money is important to him in the capitalist society we live in...has it is to all of us...but he has done many things to show that money is NOT the driving force for him....around the world in a day album....name me another artist who has released an album as weird and as different from a previously massive album as artwiad was from purple rain?...and released it 9 months after it?....i am amazed that of all the things warners and prince fought over....warners ALLOWED him to release artwiad so soon after pr as pr was still selling and it was normal practise to allow 2 or 3 years to pass between a big selling artists albums....him trying to release triple albums....dirty mind album after the 'safe' prince album...leaving warners and the corporate music machine and basically making himself backlisted by most big radio stations to be completely 'free' ....having limited releases of his albums like rainbow children...planet earth....lotusflower and 20ten instead of putting them out worldwide that would generate more money for him...

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for me...his art has always been above how much money he can make....

The operative phrase in your rant. You don't know any more about what actually motivates Prince than anyone else on this thread.

You do not either but that does not stop you from commenting. The fact is we live in a capitalist society.

We all have expenses and need to pay for things. In addtion, for all we know this could be a charity gig as P as done lots of gigs for charities but that is not as much fun to bitch about so none on this board bother to ever bring it up

QuasarOfRock said:

I thought it was for charity.

Surely he's not making any money from a charity event, right?!

Surely you don't think he's really doing this for free? Prince ain't done a free thing in his life.

Efan said:

Well, no sense not throwing this on here.

That's...interesting.

smoothcriminal12 said:

Efan said:

Well, no sense not throwing this on here.

That's...interesting.

This was part of the Daddy Pop dance routine:

"See all my critics wastin' time

Worryin' about the Daddy while he beat you blind
Get your life together - stop your cryin'
Whenever you say that you can't -
That's when you need to be tryin'"

I really don't see how people can take this...

Our Mission
The Goss-Michael Foundation exists in order to provide a forum for British Contemporary art by presenting exhibitions, programs and resources to educate, engage, and inspire youth and adult audiences in the Dallas area and abroad......

And turn it into Prince is supporting homosexuals, prop 8, and their right to be fabulous. Not that it would be wrong to do so...

Prince is participating in a fundraiser. (Period)

Spinlight said:

QuasarOfRock said:

I thought it was for charity.

Surely he's not making any money from a charity event, right?!

Surely you don't think he's really doing this for free? Prince ain't done a free thing in his life.

Don't be so jaded. Prince has given to many chairty/benefits during his career. He even contributed to USA for africa.

[Edited 1/10/11 19:56pm]

metallicjigolo said:

Spinlight said:

Surely you don't think he's really doing this for free? Prince ain't done a free thing in his life.

Don't be so jaded. Prince has given to many chairty/benefits during his career. He even contributed to USA for africa.

[Edited 1/10/11 19:56pm]

Yeah, but that was 25 years ago. I dare say our hero has changed?

Spinlight said:

metallicjigolo said:

Don't be so jaded. Prince has given to many chairty/benefits during his career. He even contributed to USA for africa.

[Edited 1/10/11 19:56pm]

Yeah, but that was 25 years ago. I dare say our hero has changed?

I doubt Very seriously much has changed in that arena. Prince is extremely charitable. He just doesn't advertise it like alot of celebrities do.

metallicjigolo said:

Spinlight said:

Yeah, but that was 25 years ago. I dare say our hero has changed?

I doubt Very seriously much has changed in that arena. Prince is extremely charitable. He just doesn't advertise it like alot of celebrities do.

Yeah, but you're saying he isn't getting a fee for this, which goes against industry standard. He's not doing it for free, why would he do it for free? Pleeeeease. The tax deductible for the 1500 dollar ticket is like 300 bucks. Prince gets a cut.

Genesia said:

From what I've seen, Prince does not discriminate when it comes to getting paid.