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Thread started 12/30/10 1:24pm

Astasheiks

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I Ain't had a Hit since 1991 Concert

One could argue that whats he was thinking to himself from his Set List of the 12/29/2010 Concert!...

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I don't have anything after 1991 that I can play at this concert.

And for all you that argue he has to do the Hits at the big concerts, understanding,

but why not 1/2 old 1/2 new, or 3/4 old 1/4 new but all old....Please!!!!

[Edited 12/31/10 12:07pm]

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Reply #1 posted 12/30/10 1:30pm

polkadotbliss

TMBGITW...............................................number 1 i do believe

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Reply #2 posted 12/30/10 1:50pm

Efan

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When he settled in for "Gingerbread Man," the audience was right in the palm of his hand. Meaning that, if he gives the audience a great new song to hear, they will not only accept it, they will love it (granted, it was a song based on "The Question of U," so I realize it lessens my point somewhat...but I think the point still stands:-D ).

I loved the concert entirely, I have to say. Old songs and all, I have had the time of my life at all these East Coast shows. While I have no complaints, I could certainly see that there's room in the show for some new/newer stuff. For example, even though he's sung "Jungle Love" a thousand times now, and even though he has a dozen teleprompters up on that stage, he still messes up the lyrics on that song constantly. It's a great riff, but he seems bored with it and might as well replace it with something else (why not "Sticky Like Glue"? It's a fun song, it would sound good live, and the audience would enjoy it).

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Reply #3 posted 12/30/10 2:02pm

TheKid94

Efan said:

When he settled in for "Gingerbread Man," the audience was right in the palm of his hand. Meaning that, if he gives the audience a great new song to hear, they will not only accept it, they will love it (granted, it was a song based on "The Question of U," so I realize it lessens my point somewhat...but I think the point still stands:-D ).

I loved the concert entirely, I have to say. Old songs and all, I have had the time of my life at all these East Coast shows. While I have no complaints, I could certainly see that there's room in the show for some new/newer stuff. For example, even though he's sung "Jungle Love" a thousand times now, and even though he has a dozen teleprompters up on that stage, he still messes up the lyrics on that song constantly. It's a great riff, but he seems bored with it and might as well replace it with something else (why not "Sticky Like Glue"? It's a fun song, it would sound good live, and the audience would enjoy it).

wait so does prince use teleprompters at his concerts? i mean im not like shocked or anything but im just curious

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Reply #4 posted 12/30/10 2:45pm

Astasheiks

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Efan said:

When he settled in for "Gingerbread Man," the audience was right in the palm of his hand. Meaning that, if he gives the audience a great new song to hear, they will not only accept it, they will love it (granted, it was a song based on "The Question of U," so I realize it lessens my point somewhat...but I think the point still stands:-D ).

I loved the concert entirely, I have to say. Old songs and all, I have had the time of my life at all these East Coast shows. While I have no complaints, I could certainly see that there's room in the show for some new/newer stuff. For example, even though he's sung "Jungle Love" a thousand times now, and even though he has a dozen teleprompters up on that stage, he still messes up the lyrics on that song constantly. It's a great riff, but he seems bored with it and might as well replace it with something else (why not "Sticky Like Glue"? It's a fun song, it would sound good live, and the audience would enjoy it).

"It's a great riff, but he seems bored with it and might as well replace it with something else (why not "Sticky Like Glue"? It's a fun song, it would sound good live, and the audience would enjoy it)."

AMEN!

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Reply #5 posted 12/30/10 2:46pm

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polkadotbliss said:

TMBGITW...............................................number 1 i do believe

Thats the point, probably never been played in a Arena.

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Reply #6 posted 12/30/10 5:13pm

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I've gone to three of the four concerts so far, and quite honestly, I've enjoyed the heck out of myself at all of them. They have simply been wonderful, no lyin'. For pretty much the entire time, the whole arena is on its feet, singing and dancing and having a great time. That is a LOT of fun to be a part of.

That said, what I think we need to be clamoring for is a different experience. I would hate to see a big arena show where half or more of the audience was sitting down, not knowing any songs and feeling bored. But I would absolutely LOVE to be part of a small-venue show where he was playing a lesser-known set. I hope he will do something like that soon.

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Reply #7 posted 12/30/10 5:24pm

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Astasheiks said:

One could argue that whats he was thinking to himself from his Set List of the 12/29/2010 Concert!...

or

I don't have anything after 1991 that I can play at this concert.

And for all you that argue he has to do the Hits at the big concerts, understanding,

but why not 1/2 old 1/2 new, or 3/4 old 1/4 new but all old....Please!!!!

[Edited 12/30/10 13:26pm]

Have you ever thought that maybe, just maybe, Prince wanted to do a Hits show? Why is this such a big deal. We don't know if the next set of shows (if there is another tour coming) will not be all new stuff. Why is it that he can't do what he wants? This is his show, you pretty much knew what was coming, this has been his setlist the entire year. Why even bother to go if you're going to complain? You don't like the setlist...don't go and just ignore the AMAZING reviews from the AMAZING concerts..pretty simple. Its nice that Prince did a series of hits shows, alot of casual fans came out and want to hear his new stuff because of these shows. So I don't see the big deal! He looked amazing and he sounded amazing, that's what counts!

Prince is GORGEOUS. I'm inspired. GOD is GREAT. Is there anything else to say? lol
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Reply #8 posted 12/30/10 6:02pm

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TheKid94 said:

Efan said:

When he settled in for "Gingerbread Man," the audience was right in the palm of his hand. Meaning that, if he gives the audience a great new song to hear, they will not only accept it, they will love it (granted, it was a song based on "The Question of U," so I realize it lessens my point somewhat...but I think the point still stands:-D ).

I loved the concert entirely, I have to say. Old songs and all, I have had the time of my life at all these East Coast shows. While I have no complaints, I could certainly see that there's room in the show for some new/newer stuff. For example, even though he's sung "Jungle Love" a thousand times now, and even though he has a dozen teleprompters up on that stage, he still messes up the lyrics on that song constantly. It's a great riff, but he seems bored with it and might as well replace it with something else (why not "Sticky Like Glue"? It's a fun song, it would sound good live, and the audience would enjoy it).

wait so does prince use teleprompters at his concerts? i mean im not like shocked or anything but im just curious

At these w2a ones he did. they were all around the stage, facing different directions. He didn't seem to look at them either so not sure why they were there...

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Reply #9 posted 12/30/10 6:24pm

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Astasheiks said:

One could argue that whats he was thinking to himself from his Set List of the 12/29/2010 Concert!...

or

I don't have anything after 1991 that I can play at this concert.

And for all you that argue he has to do the Hits at the big concerts, understanding,

but why not 1/2 old 1/2 new, or 3/4 old 1/4 new but all old....Please!!!!

[Edited 12/30/10 13:26pm]

Don't put in quotes something that Prince didn't actually say...it is annoying. neutral

"Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything." --Plato

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Reply #10 posted 12/30/10 6:42pm

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DaphneLovesPR1NCE said:

Have you ever thought that maybe, just maybe, Prince wanted to do a Hits show? Why is this such a big deal.

Have you ever thought that maybe, someone as creative as Prince (used to be) would be tired of playing the same songs for 25 years? We know he's done hits shows for the past 15 years, so I guess it's not really a big deal anymore, just lame.

TRUE BLUE
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Reply #11 posted 12/30/10 7:45pm

NuPwrSoul

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I've gone to three of the four concerts so far, and quite honestly, I've enjoyed the heck out of myself at all of them. They have simply been wonderful, no lyin'. For pretty much the entire time, the whole arena is on its feet, singing and dancing and having a great time. That is a LOT of fun to be a part of.

That said, what I think we need to be clamoring for is a different experience. I would hate to see a big arena show where half or more of the audience was sitting down, not knowing any songs and feeling bored. But I would absolutely LOVE to be part of a small-venue show where he was playing a lesser-known set. I hope he will do something like that soon.

I agree... it is (was?) my hope that he would do something in a more intimate setting for the public while in New York.... Doesn't seem likely... at least for now.

"That...magic, the start of something revolutionary-the Minneapolis Sound, we should cherish it and not punish prince for not being able to replicate it."-Dreamshaman32
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Reply #12 posted 12/31/10 5:30am

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I'm glad 2 c that i'm not the only one complaining about these WB years stlists and asking 4 post 1995 material. Wasn't it sweet 2 hear him per4m songs like "She Spoke 2 Me", "When Eye Lay My Hands On U" and "Eye Love U But Eye Don't Trust U Anymore" in 2009?

Hopefully Prince will listen. He never used 2 do what others do, and suddenly he becomes one of these "you shoulda been there when..." artists like every other post-40 years-old star. His recent material is mostly GREAT (IMHO) and deserves 2 b played live!!! Maybe he could find a balance like he used 2, i mean the Lovesexy or Diamonds And Pearls tours DID contain past hits, but focused mostly on new material. That was great and that's what i want!!!

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Reply #13 posted 12/31/10 7:59am

Purpleaxxe1972

DaphneLovesPR1NCE said:

Astasheiks said:

One could argue that whats he was thinking to himself from his Set List of the 12/29/2010 Concert!...

or

I don't have anything after 1991 that I can play at this concert.

And for all you that argue he has to do the Hits at the big concerts, understanding,

but why not 1/2 old 1/2 new, or 3/4 old 1/4 new but all old....Please!!!!

[Edited 12/30/10 13:26pm]

Have you ever thought that maybe, just maybe, Prince wanted to do a Hits show? Why is this such a big deal. We don't know if the next set of shows (if there is another tour coming) will not be all new stuff. Why is it that he can't do what he wants? This is his show, you pretty much knew what was coming, this has been his setlist the entire year. Why even bother to go if you're going to complain? You don't like the setlist...don't go and just ignore the AMAZING reviews from the AMAZING concerts..pretty simple. Its nice that Prince did a series of hits shows, alot of casual fans came out and want to hear his new stuff because of these shows. So I don't see the big deal! He looked amazing and he sounded amazing, that's what counts!

Yeah, what he said.

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Reply #14 posted 12/31/10 8:30am

novabrkr

Astasheiks said:

polkadotbliss said:

TMBGITW...............................................number 1 i do believe

Thats the point, probably never been played in a Arena.

It doesn't really work that well live. He's been singing it with his lower register since the start, so I suppose he's aware he can't do the falsetto on that one consistently.

People complaining about the setlists should perhaps keep in mind that he doesn't really have a new album out in the US. The newer stuff he's played in his shows for the last 15 years have been been typically from the latest release.

Personally I don't understand why he neglects his 1990s output, though. It's possible that he isn't comfortable with the lyrical content of many of the cuts from that era: too much sex, too much personal history involved, too much negativity, etc.

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Reply #15 posted 12/31/10 11:56am

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purplethunder3121 said:

Astasheiks said:

One could argue that whats he was thinking to himself from his Set List of the 12/29/2010 Concert!...

or

I don't have anything after 1991 that I can play at this concert.

And for all you that argue he has to do the Hits at the big concerts, understanding,

but why not 1/2 old 1/2 new, or 3/4 old 1/4 new but all old....Please!!!!

[Edited 12/30/10 13:26pm]

Don't put in quotes something that Prince didn't actually say...it is annoying. neutral

I didn't have to his Set List proves the point anyway.

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Reply #16 posted 12/31/10 11:57am

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motherfunka said:

DaphneLovesPR1NCE said:

Have you ever thought that maybe, someone as creative as Prince (used to be) would be tired of playing the same songs for 25 years? We know he's done hits shows for the past 15 years, so I guess it's not really a big deal anymore, just lame.

AMEN!

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Reply #17 posted 12/31/10 11:57am

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databank said:

I'm glad 2 c that i'm not the only one complaining about these WB years stlists and asking 4 post 1995 material. Wasn't it sweet 2 hear him per4m songs like "She Spoke 2 Me", "When Eye Lay My Hands On U" and "Eye Love U But Eye Don't Trust U Anymore" in 2009?

Hopefully Prince will listen. He never used 2 do what others do, and suddenly he becomes one of these "you shoulda been there when..." artists like every other post-40 years-old star. His recent material is mostly GREAT (IMHO) and deserves 2 b played live!!! Maybe he could find a balance like he used 2, i mean the Lovesexy or Diamonds And Pearls tours DID contain past hits, but focused mostly on new material. That was great and that's what i want!!!

AMEN AGAIN!!!! lol

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Reply #18 posted 12/31/10 2:19pm

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Astasheiks said:

One could argue that whats he was thinking to himself from his Set List of the 12/29/2010 Concert!...

or

I don't have anything after 1991 that I can play at this concert.

And for all you that argue he has to do the Hits at the big concerts, understanding,

but why not 1/2 old 1/2 new, or 3/4 old 1/4 new but all old....Please!!!!

[Edited 12/31/10 12:07pm]

Look I too would love for Prince to play more stuff past 1990-whatever but these shows have been so much fun and so incredible, I realize that it really doesn't matter too much. Prince is still alive and doing what he wants to do and as long as he's performing and giving his all, then I'm cool with it. Once I accepted that Prince is gonna do what he wants to do, then I stopped worrying about whether he'd play new songs or not. I'm gonna always have fun at a Prince show. Amen to that! wink

One more thing, Astasheiks, I saw your youtube page. You are complaining about Prince not doing anything past 1991 or post WB stuff but from your page, it doesn't look you are either. I'm just sayin.

I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that
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Reply #19 posted 12/31/10 3:24pm

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polkadotbliss said:

TMBGITW...............................................number 1 i do believe

And 7, from 1992, was a top ten hit i do believe

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Reply #20 posted 12/31/10 3:37pm

wonder505

purplecam said:

Astasheiks said:

One could argue that whats he was thinking to himself from his Set List of the 12/29/2010 Concert!...

or

I don't have anything after 1991 that I can play at this concert.

And for all you that argue he has to do the Hits at the big concerts, understanding,

but why not 1/2 old 1/2 new, or 3/4 old 1/4 new but all old....Please!!!!

[Edited 12/31/10 12:07pm]

Look I too would love for Prince to play more stuff past 1990-whatever but these shows have been so much fun and so incredible, I realize that it really doesn't matter too much. Prince is still alive and doing what he wants to do and as long as he's performing and giving his all, then I'm cool with it. Once I accepted that Prince is gonna do what he wants to do, then I stopped worrying about whether he'd play new songs or not. I'm gonna always have fun at a Prince show. Amen to that! wink

One more thing, Astasheiks, I saw your youtube page. You are complaining about Prince not doing anything past 1991 or post WB stuff but from your page, it doesn't look you are either. I'm just sayin.

First they complain that his newer stuff sucks and that Prince doesn't have it anymore, and he hasnt written a hit in 15 years, then they complain that he's not doing any of the new stuff, and if you go back and read the Org during the years when he was only playing current stuff there were complaints too. lol Although I would love to hear newer stuff too, I am so glad I am not the type to allow such things as only playing hits ruin my fun, and what a blast it has been with the NJ/NY concerts, I am really tempted to try and go again to the Jan 18 show just for old times sakes. Who knows when I will get to see him again.

[Edited 12/31/10 15:38pm]

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motherfunka said:

DaphneLovesPR1NCE said:

Have you ever thought that maybe, someone as creative as Prince (used to be) would be tired of playing the same songs for 25 years? We know he's done hits shows for the past 15 years, so I guess it's not really a big deal anymore, just lame.

Accord to this thread obviously Prince is not tired of it. This isssue is based solely upon fan speculation on what's going thru Princes mind when he tours. The bottom line is we don't know. Whenever a true Prince fan gets the chance to interview him they don't ask him flat out why he does what he does. Like most of you I have songs I'd love to hear Prince perform live but realistically know I probably never will. There were people at MSG who didn't even know what 'Uptown' was and that was released worldwide over 25 years ago. So how they hell are they gonna know 'Sticky Like Glue' from a british tabloid release from a few months back.

When eye go 2 a Prince concert or related event it's all heart up in the house but when eye log onto this site and the miasma of bitchiness is completely overwhelming!
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Reply #22 posted 01/01/11 5:25pm

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wonder505 said:

purplecam said:

Look I too would love for Prince to play more stuff past 1990-whatever but these shows have been so much fun and so incredible, I realize that it really doesn't matter too much. Prince is still alive and doing what he wants to do and as long as he's performing and giving his all, then I'm cool with it. Once I accepted that Prince is gonna do what he wants to do, then I stopped worrying about whether he'd play new songs or not. I'm gonna always have fun at a Prince show. Amen to that! wink

One more thing, Astasheiks, I saw your youtube page. You are complaining about Prince not doing anything past 1991 or post WB stuff but from your page, it doesn't look you are either. I'm just sayin.

First they complain that his newer stuff sucks and that Prince doesn't have it anymore, and he hasnt written a hit in 15 years, then they complain that he's not doing any of the new stuff, and if you go back and read the Org during the years when he was only playing current stuff there were complaints too. lol Although I would love to hear newer stuff too, I am so glad I am not the type to allow such things as only playing hits ruin my fun, and what a blast it has been with the NJ/NY concerts, I am really tempted to try and go again to the Jan 18 show just for old times sakes. Who knows when I will get to see him again.

[Edited 12/31/10 15:38pm]

You said nothing but the trut wonder505. I hope you can make it for the 18th! We need more real fans in NYC!

I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that
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Reply #23 posted 01/01/11 5:50pm

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The thing its different people complaing. One group says new prince sucks, other group says why dont you play your new stuff?

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Reply #24 posted 01/01/11 6:59pm

IamFunkay7

It's life, as simple as that

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Reply #25 posted 01/02/11 3:05pm

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I just hope he plays these songs on the 18th

U Got the Look (with Sheile E - Otherwise, it's a waste of time)

Cool

America

Beyond those he can play anything his fine heart desires....But, it's GOT 2 be Funky.

.......Oh-oh-oh, by the way...He plays guitar.

johnwoo"POW!! - - I Gotcha! - no no no! - I Caut'chu wit'cha funk down!" fro - LG guitar
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Reply #26 posted 01/02/11 3:16pm

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The thing its different people complaing. One group says new prince sucks, other group says why dont you play your new stuff?

And some people like me say both! lol

http://prince.org/msg/7/34958

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