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Thread started 12/03/10 3:39am

thedance

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Prince - from hot to COLD

Prince was once one of the hottest Pop stars in the world, but now he is one of the coldest.

His impact on the music scene today is zero.

And yet it seems like Prince himself doesn't even care about this anymore,

it seems like he has given up to make another hit song.

Isn't this a bit annoying.

Where is Prince's ambitions these days /years question

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[Edited 12/3/10 3:41am]

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Reply #1 posted 12/03/10 4:02am

NouveauDance

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There's a free membership going on a Justin Bieber forum with your name on it smile

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Reply #2 posted 12/03/10 4:13am

zaza

You answered your own question: Prince himself doesn't care.
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Reply #3 posted 12/03/10 4:25am

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thedance said:

Prince was once one of the hottest Pop stars in the world, but now he is one of the coldest.

His impact on the music scene today is zero.

And yet it seems like Prince himself doesn't even care about this anymore,

it seems like he has given up to make another hit song.

Isn't this a bit annoying.

Where is Prince's ambitions these days /years question

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[Edited 12/3/10 3:41am]

Musically, I think he's done what he needed to do, proven what he needed to prove, and satisfied what he needed to satisfy within his own soul using music as the tool.

I think that while music is his earthly profession, God is his passion and he seems to have found his own truth and happiness there. I often wonder if Prince tries so hard to find God because he's regretful of what he's done in the past? Dunno.

Anyway, as far as the music scene goes:

- He's had the #1 albums/singles - but the system has changed with digital downloads/piracy

- He's toured the world - but now prefers residencies, and at his age I can accept this

- He's got Grammys and an Oscar - and probably will garner more in his lifetime

- He's in the R&R Hall Of Fame - how many other living artists are, and are still making new music and performing?

I do think we'll still see something big from Prince, but not musically. Acting? Charity? Preaching?


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Reply #4 posted 12/03/10 5:41am

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Another day, another Prince isn't what he used to be thread.
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Reply #5 posted 12/03/10 5:49am

alexje

I think that Prince is in a position to do what he wants to do and not what others want him to do...........

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Reply #6 posted 12/03/10 6:12am

RodeoSchro

Didn't he just sell out a couple shows at the Madison Square Garden in something like a day or two?

Doesn't sound very cold to me.

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Reply #7 posted 12/03/10 7:49am

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thedance said:

His impact on the music scene today is zero.

As far as I know, all his albums from "Musicology" on have charted higher than any of his other records since, well, the early-90s. He's had highly successful concert tours all throughout the last decade. Apparently he has also broken some records in that regard, but that probably doesn't count in your mind.

If by "impact" you mean "influence" then that's of course false. Many new artists, bands and producers have borrowed his musical ideas and even made "Prince-like" tracks.

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Reply #8 posted 12/03/10 8:16am

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is this a flame?. Anyways it's clearly BS, whilst we may not regard the last 10 years of his output in the highest regard the music industry generally reveres him. Anyway how do you measure impact?, his place in musical history is now set in stone.

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Reply #9 posted 12/03/10 8:29am

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thedance said:

Prince was once one of the hottest Pop stars in the world, but now he is one of the coldest.

His impact on the music scene today is zero.

And yet it seems like Prince himself doesn't even care about this anymore,

it seems like he has given up to make another hit song.

Isn't this a bit annoying.

Where is Prince's ambitions these days /years question

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Wow. All the way to 1984. That's how far back you are going traveling to when Prince was "the hottest pop (star) in the world".

The fact is, Prince trancended being a pop star long ago. That said, usually, he can be "hot" or "pop" when he wants to. See: The year 2004.

"New Power slide...."
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Reply #10 posted 12/03/10 8:35am

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Reply #11 posted 12/03/10 10:52am

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A far stretch imo to call him the "coldest". He just did a small European tour and at one point he asked many people to join him on stage and party with him.

That's not exactly a cold sign if you ask me. In fact i think that's a great sign that he's feeling good and in his element by having a ball on stage with his fans,

and to see him sharing his music like that on stage has much more value to me than if he's supposed to be "hot" in the media.

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Reply #12 posted 12/03/10 10:57am

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NouveauDance said:

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Reply #13 posted 12/03/10 11:05am

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Se7en said:

thedance said:

Prince was once one of the hottest Pop stars in the world, but now he is one of the coldest.

His impact on the music scene today is zero.

And yet it seems like Prince himself doesn't even care about this anymore,

it seems like he has given up to make another hit song.

Isn't this a bit annoying.

Where is Prince's ambitions these days /years question

-

[Edited 12/3/10 3:41am]

Musically, I think he's done what he needed to do, proven what he needed to prove, and satisfied what he needed to satisfy within his own soul using music as the tool.

I think that while music is his earthly profession, God is his passion and he seems to have found his own truth and happiness there. I often wonder if Prince tries so hard to find God because he's regretful of what he's done in the past? Dunno.

Anyway, as far as the music scene goes:

- He's had the #1 albums/singles - but the system has changed with digital downloads/piracy

- He's toured the world - but now prefers residencies, and at his age I can accept this

- He's got Grammys and an Oscar - and probably will garner more in his lifetime

- He's in the R&R Hall Of Fame - how many other living artists are, and are still making new music and performing?

I do think we'll still see something big from Prince, but not musically. Acting? Charity? Preaching?


So well spoken. I'm so happy to see that there are still some educated people out there.

As to your post, I totally agree. He's been there & it ain't what you say. He does'nt care about hits or being a ''Pop Star''. Just getting yjr music to the Fans.

Peace.

Prince did an interview with a woman at Record World. They talked about whatever, then he asked her: "Does your pubic hair go up to your navel?" At that moment, we thought maybe we shouldn't encourage him to do interviews.
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Reply #14 posted 12/03/10 11:07am

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And besides that, his upcoming US shows sold good and it seems that much people are looking forward to those. If his status was "cold" or "unpopular",

would those shows have been sold as they have been now ? Just try to cherish and enjoy what he's got to offer. Prince is still delivering music almost

every year and no, not everyone likes it always unfortunately, but i think that Prince fans are very lucky to have an artist which is still quite productive

whether the promotional activities might also not be to everyone's expectations, and he frequently does what he does best ... performing live.

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Reply #15 posted 12/03/10 11:07am

loveeverywhere

Prince is not cold.......cold is when you play the Isle of Capri casino in Ms.lol

If you mean impact as in airplay, well that would take a huge marketing campaign from some major label. don't think that's going to happen!

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Reply #16 posted 12/03/10 11:55am

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You answered your own question: Prince himself doesn't care.

Sie bauen jetzt ein Indianatipi und nehmen alle Tiere mit Schnecken inklusive.

FRIENDS w for HE and HD.

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Reply #17 posted 12/03/10 12:08pm

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thedance said:

Prince was once one of the hottest Pop stars in the world, but now he is one of the coldest.

His impact on the music scene today is zero.

And yet it seems like Prince himself doesn't even care about this anymore,

it seems like he has given up to make another hit song.

Isn't this a bit annoying.

Where is Prince's ambitions these days /years question

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It's not about 'hits' and it's not about 'volume' either. That's where people are going wrong. I know a lot of artist make music to make $ then there are artist that make music because they have something to say and they know beyond a shadow of a doubt that if they write it and put music behind it, that there will be people who flock to the music.

It feels like that part of my experience being a member of prince.org has somewhat soured. I remember the first two sites I found out about when I became an admirer of P's music. First was Love4oneanother.com and the other site was prince.org.

Love the music for yourself, screw 'the hits' screw the 'radio airplay'. The best course of action is to buy that album or acquire so said album, go home, put on your headphones and JAM or slow it down.

*jumps off the soapbox* ... LoL

Peace ... & Stay Funky ...

~* The only love there is, is the love "we" make *~

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Reply #18 posted 12/03/10 1:29pm

zaza

LORILA said:



zaza said:


You answered your own question: Prince himself doesn't care.

Sie bauen jetzt ein Indianatipi und nehmen alle Tiere mit Schnecken inklusive.


FRIENDS w for HE and HD.


Oh, wirklich?
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Reply #19 posted 12/03/10 1:36pm

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PurpleLove7 said:

thedance said:

Prince was once one of the hottest Pop stars in the world, but now he is one of the coldest.

His impact on the music scene today is zero.

And yet it seems like Prince himself doesn't even care about this anymore,

it seems like he has given up to make another hit song.

Isn't this a bit annoying.

Where is Prince's ambitions these days /years question

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It's not about 'hits' and it's not about 'volume' either. That's where people are going wrong. I know a lot of artist make music to make $ then there are artist that make music because they have something to say and they know beyond a shadow of a doubt that if they write it and put music behind it, that there will be people who flock to the music.

It feels like that part of my experience being a member of prince.org has somewhat soured. I remember the first two sites I found out about when I became an admirer of P's music. First was Love4oneanother.com and the other site was prince.org.

Love the music for yourself, screw 'the hits' screw the 'radio airplay'. The best course of action is to buy that album or acquire so said album, go home, put on your headphones and JAM or slow it down.

*jumps off the soapbox* ... LoL

ABSOLUTELY CORRECT!!! PRINCE IS HAPPIE DOING THINGS THE WAY HE IS DOING THEM, SERIOUSLY.

U R NOT BETTER THAN ANYONE NOR R U PERFECT!!
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Reply #20 posted 12/03/10 1:58pm

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thedance said:

Prince was once one of the hottest Pop stars in the world, but now he is one of the coldest.

His impact on the music scene today is zero.

And yet it seems like Prince himself doesn't even care about this anymore,

it seems like he has given up to make another hit song.

Isn't this a bit annoying.

Where is Prince's ambitions these days /years question

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[Edited 12/3/10 3:41am]

I'm not so sure he doesn't care about the pop charts, but the fact is that he's a man in his 50s who hasn't written a truly great pop single in 15 years. That might have something to do with his lack of impact.

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Reply #21 posted 12/03/10 2:13pm

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I think to fans he isn't cold...well not to all of them. But in mainstream, he is definately cold right about now. He had a great run from 2004 to about 2007 with Musicology and 3121, but then he has died down again. He does that. But if he still loves what he is doing, then he needs to get it going...there are more fans to gain and young musicians to inspire...and Prince does indeed care about that...it seems like he needs some business guidance at this point. But whatever, Prince does what Prince wants to do...

Prince is GORGEOUS. I'm inspired. GOD is GREAT. Is there anything else to say? lol
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Reply #22 posted 12/03/10 2:20pm

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thedance said:

Prince was once one of the hottest Pop stars in the world, but now he is one of the coldest.

His impact on the music scene today is zero.

And yet it seems like Prince himself doesn't even care about this anymore,

it seems like he has given up to make another hit song.

Isn't this a bit annoying.

Where is Prince's ambitions these days /years question

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Define your description of coldness, please & name some artists that have not been impacted

by Prince, I'm not talking about "Teeny Poppers" either. Prince has never been more accessible than in the last 5 - 10 yrs, perhaps longer, what with his letting fans on stage, performances on t.v shows & interviews! Peoples LEVEL of ambition change. I, for one, know about this because that is where i am right now.

U see I show horses on a professional level ( often i have competed against Joe Bailey, hairdresser 2 the stars) & up until 5 yrs ago i travelled the country( Australia) to go to certain shows, however now i find im not so into this now & it has nothing to do with AGE as i'm only 37, and prefer to stay within my home state. I still have horses & I always will however just not on the same scale as before, that's life!!

Honestly what more is there for Prince, What HASN'T HE DONE in your opinion?

Who hasn't he helped? No matter how successful/unsuccessful they have been ( apart from K$sha) LOL!!

I think U need 2 look at what U want from Prince & if U can't find it then it might be time for u to

focus your attention on someone/something else!

Prince once tried 2 change his name 2 a symbol so that ur'e mother couldn't find him in the phonebook!
Peace & Be Wild!
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Reply #23 posted 12/03/10 2:45pm

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im not sure I agree with this one, his influence shows in the work of todays artist, everybody from Alisha Keys to MGMT, and in a market of slow CD sales he can still land a top ten even if its for a short run. P is already an icon.. I don't think he has to fight so hard to be "hot" in todays scene

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Reply #24 posted 12/04/10 10:44pm

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there are a whole new generation of artists now the kids today look at prince in the same way i used to look at bing crosby , an old dinosaur who has no relevance to modern music , and thats how it should be.

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NouveauDance said:

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lol lol lol

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Reply #26 posted 12/04/10 11:36pm

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He hasn't been a trendsetter for years, but I don't think his influence will ever stop. All kinds of artists still site The Beatles, John Coltrane, Led Zepplin, James Brown and a ton of others as influences on a regular basis. I expect Prince will be the same.

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Reply #27 posted 12/05/10 12:26am

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Yeah some people never experience happy so they wish to make others sad!

Have I told you I love your sig!




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PurpleLove7 said:




thedance said:


Prince was once one of the hottest Pop stars in the world, but now he is one of the coldest.



His impact on the music scene today is zero.



And yet it seems like Prince himself doesn't even care about this anymore,



it seems like he has given up to make another hit song.




Isn't this a bit annoying.



Where is Prince's ambitions these days /years question



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It's not about 'hits' and it's not about 'volume' either. That's where people are going wrong. I know a lot of artist make music to make $ then there are artist that make music because they have something to say and they know beyond a shadow of a doubt that if they write it and put music behind it, that there will be people who flock to the music.



It feels like that part of my experience being a member of prince.org has somewhat soured. I remember the first two sites I found out about when I became an admirer of P's music. First was Love4oneanother.com and the other site was prince.org.



Love the music for yourself, screw 'the hits' screw the 'radio airplay'. The best course of action is to buy that album or acquire so said album, go home, put on your headphones and JAM or slow it down.



*jumps off the soapbox* ... LoL




ABSOLUTELY CORRECT!!! PRINCE IS HAPPIE DOING THINGS THE WAY HE IS DOING THEM, SERIOUSLY.



wink wink
Proverbs 23:9
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Reply #28 posted 12/05/10 4:41am

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Thanks to all for the replies. biggrin

My question to all of you who disagrees with me: Are you really happy how Prince is running his "business" these days /years ?

I mean the latest release 20Ten was OK (about 7 out of 10 imo),

But no music video or promotion,

I agree Prince is still hot as a live performer, I was really feeling his 2 main concerts in Denmark in October.

but as an artist releasing singles and albums he's is nothing but cold.

No one cares about Prince's newer music anymore other than a very small minority.. where's is Prince's ambitions, why is he no more putting energy into promotion, at least trying to be successful again.

It's true I want the good old days to return, with extended versions and music videos.

Am I really craving too much. I don't think so myself... wink

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Reply #29 posted 12/05/10 4:52am

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Yeah some people never experience happy so they wish to make others sad! Have I told you I love your sig! said:

ABSOLUTELY CORRECT!!! PRINCE IS HAPPIE DOING THINGS THE WAY HE IS DOING THEM, SERIOUSLY.

wink wink

yes everything goes in cycles and Prince can spontaneously come up with the most innovative and ground breaking sounds imo. It always strikes me that he is never one stop searching and learning new techniques sun like a fine cradfted instrument, absorbing and discovering new sounds & arrangements. Prince only gets finer with time

always guaranteed to heat things up campfire

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