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Reply #30 posted 11/23/10 8:05pm

HomeSquid

huh? He gets plenty and would get more if he hadn't made an ass of himself for a decade straight with terrible movies, spoiled self-indulgent behavior (name change, "retirement", "slave") and too much mediocre product. Bottom line: He was better off with the quality control of Warner Bros. Prince damaged his own reputation and legacy.

...I believe he's been back on track for several years now but just hasn't come up with a hit- he needs a hit song

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Reply #31 posted 11/23/10 8:13pm

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HomeSquid said:

huh? He gets plenty and would get more if he hadn't made an ass of himself for a decade straight with terrible movies, spoiled self-indulgent behavior (name change, "retirement", "slave") and too much mediocre product. Bottom line: He was better off with the quality control of Warner Bros. Prince damaged his own reputation and legacy.

...I believe he's been back on track for several years now but just hasn't come up with a hit- he needs a hit song

perfect post!. You explained it better then i could

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Reply #32 posted 11/23/10 8:43pm

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I dont understand why some people dont see prince as one of THE BEST musical geniuses of all time! im only 14 and i do know some people my age who like real music..(like prince), and respect him as muck as i do, prince has made so much awesome music, and entertainment for all his fans, now i think its time for the world to show him how much we care! thanks to all the fans who already do! may you live to see the dawn!

I didn't understand that for a long time either. But now it seems that it might be how some individuals focus their attention on our Man.

It's a choice, imo, to either appreciate Prince's creative gifts or use time looking for insignificent errors, flaws or weirdness. You can pick him apart or enjoy and appreciate his numerous creative gifts and catalogues of amazing music. Simple really, I don't think he has any more faults than the rest of us, he's just in the limelight more which seems to make peeps want to manipulate, control and complain. I love him just the way he is though so when the negativity gets too rough, I turn away and go back to my origianl focus. = guitar sun dancing jig headbang music

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Reply #33 posted 11/23/10 9:13pm

dalsh327

purplerain14 said:

I dont understand why some people dont see prince as one of THE BEST musical geniuses of all time! im only 14 and i do know some people my age who like real music..(like prince), and respect him as muck as i do, but then u get this group of people who are just naive, and like music that the artist didnt really even make, and really has no meaning to it, and i dont see why some people like mj so much, sorry to say it but he was a child molester, and a real weirdo, but im not saying that he didnt have a couple good songs when he was in the jackson 5, and alot younger , but he should have NEVER been named the king of anything, especially pop, if anything prince should have! i know prince has probably more fans then mj, but it just makes me mad how some people dont give a crap about the truth, or what REAL music is. prince has made so much awesome music, and entertainment for all his fans, now i think its time for the world to show him how much we care! thanks to all the fans who already do! may you live to see the dawn!

What matters is that you found something different to like based on the music itself.

If we start judging art on the person and not the work, some of the most creative people in the world are pretty nutty in their private lives,and not all that likable. When you get older and hang with "artistic" types, you'll see what I mean. They don't have to be famous to be nutty.

"Pop" is a genre that's meant to be temporary and in the moment. Those type of albums rarely go high on the classic albums list.

It doesn't really matter how many fans an artist has, it matters if it had an impact on you. What other people listen to... don't even bother debating with them about it. They like what's popular and in the moment. And listen to it over and over. Then move on to something else, and destroy any possibility of liking the song ever again.

I think the next step would be tracking down the music that affected Prince, after you get into his back catalog.

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Reply #34 posted 11/23/10 10:59pm

silkylee

mj was great n his category.singing,dancing,promoting himself.he was the king of pop.u can't place prince n a category because he has no boundries.he's more than pop. he's pop,jazz,rock,blues,r&b,new wave,funk,folk,gospel,metal.prince is music. prince giutar playing(priceless.) he plays several instruments.he writes compose,& produces all his music.I never seen mj play one instrument.Motown,Quincy jones,& top noch producers produced dam near all mj songs.theres so much depth 2 prince music. all there is 2 mj music is pop.

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Reply #35 posted 11/24/10 6:53am

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motherfunka said:



fantasticjoy said:


It's kind of funny how on a site dedicated to Prince people accuse him of being gay and give him all kinds of insults and only few if any defend him, but if someone says something unkind about MJ so many defend him. Let's just face it many are going to believe he did the crime regardless if he was not convicted. Just like many will believe Prince is gay despite the fact of all the women he slept with and noone can seem to prove he ever slept with a man. I agree though there's no need go compare Prince to MJ to make a point how good he is. Prince is just great because of his success and his talent that made him successful.


I'm not saying Prince is gay, but can anyone really "prove" that he slept with "the women" either? We can assume that he's slept with all the various women he's been seen with over the years, but I don't think anyone can really prove it.


The women surely aren't denying it. Some even talk about it whether their experience was good or bad.
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Reply #36 posted 11/24/10 8:35am

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I think the reasson why Prince doesn't get the respect he deserves, is because his music isn't as exposed on the internet, like other artists. It is incredible hard to find his music on websites like youtube, well at least for me, which makes it hard for newer generations to discover Prince as an artist.

If he would just let people post some fine music and live performances on youtube, without deleting the audio right away, much more people would be aware of his talent.

I'm 19, I just started college and don't have the money to buy a lot of CD's. Before I buy a CD, I want to be sure that I like the artist..so what I do is go up to youtube and listen to the songs to know whether or not the album is worth buying or not.

Prince needs to stop being so damn greedy and just post his music somewhere, so people can actually enjoy his talent. People aren't going to buy an album, if they don't know how the artist sound like..

Prince don't want to post his music for free on youtube, the record company doesn't really promote it and the younger generation is unaware of his talent, if he doesn't change this pattern his music will turn into this hidden gems that only Prince fans know of and appreciate..

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Reply #37 posted 11/24/10 9:16am

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Its sad that Prince act like this. Sometimes I wonder why he release music at all when he makes it so hard 2 get and dont let the world now about a new realease like other artists with real promotion etc. Prince thinks that hes way is the only right way 2 do things and every other alternatives is shit. The big ego is what makes him not get the respect.
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Reply #38 posted 11/24/10 9:59am

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purplerain14 said:

thanks 4 posting........sorry to all the people i made mad......jeeze i was just trying to see what other people might think or have an oppinion on, oh and thanks to alot of u who called me dumb,thats nice.

special thanks to hbk183, wetdream,blackbob, and bohemian67.....thanks 4 being so nice.

hbk183:

i have heard the songs and

i loooove them!smile

[Edited 11/23/10 18:39pm]

You're welcome Nina.

Just ignore the nasty remarks.

We've been trying to ask "them" to "act their age not their shoe size" guitar

But so far they haven't heard us. wink

Welcome to the forum!

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Reply #39 posted 11/24/10 10:59am

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purplerain14 said:

thanks 4 posting........sorry to all the people i made mad......jeeze i was just trying to see what other people might think or have an oppinion on, oh and thanks to alot of u who called me dumb,thats nice.

special thanks to hbk183, wetdream,blackbob, and bohemian67.....thanks 4 being so nice.

hbk183:

i have heard the songs and

i loooove them!smile

[Edited 11/23/10 18:39pm]

Wow.. kid, you expect some respect when you did not even give respect to those who might have a different opinion than yours? confused

I suggest you read your comment again. cool

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Reply #40 posted 11/24/10 11:05am

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Prince sabotages his own reputation.

He's called a genius as much as anyone alive today, but his material has been so inconsistent that even when people want to like it they find it difficult to do so.

It is so hard to recommend a Prince album, because i know that while I might like it, my friends will like maybe 2 songs and think the rest are terrible, insane, stupid, girly, too simple, etc.

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Reply #41 posted 11/24/10 12:07pm

TrevorAyer

mj is dead which means prince IS the king of pop now. long live the prince king

ps. dont believe all that media bullshit .. its all lies .. thats right ALL OF IT .. turn off the television stop reading news papers and learn to think for yourself or you will be programmed.

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Reply #42 posted 11/24/10 12:25pm

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... since this is a Prince fan community site I can only answer what we would say here. Personally speaking, I do not care what someone else thinks about Prince that 'doesn't like him'. If I throw out Prince's name to anybody I meet if they say 'The Purple Rain' Guy, I just laugh then from time to time I may meet someone who can go into the musical archives and say an eclectic album that no-one else would come up with that's a casual fan. He gets a lot of respect in the music community. Ask any seasoned artist what they think of Prince and their response would be that they love him or at least respect his talent.
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Reply #43 posted 11/24/10 1:06pm

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TrevorAyer said:

mj is dead which means prince IS the king of pop now. long live the prince king

ps. dont believe all that media bullshit .. its all lies .. thats right ALL OF IT .. turn off the television stop reading news papers and learn to think for yourself or you will be programmed.

Your logic is horrible.

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Reply #44 posted 11/24/10 3:33pm

purplerain14

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Asymphony5 said:

purplerain14 said:

thanks 4 posting........sorry to all the people i made mad......jeeze i was just trying to see what other people might think or have an oppinion on, oh and thanks to alot of u who called me dumb,thats nice.

special thanks to hbk183, wetdream,blackbob, and bohemian67.....thanks 4 being so nice.

hbk183:

i have heard the songs and

i loooove them!smile

[Edited 11/23/10 18:39pm]

Wow.. kid, you expect some respect when you did not even give respect to those who might have a different opinion than yours? confused

I suggest you read your comment again. cool

i said that i wanted to see what other peoples oppinion on it was! i respect everyones oppinion! i just dont understand why they have to call me dumb, that has nothing to do with prince.......dont u agree?

i suggest u read my comment again, cool

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Reply #45 posted 11/24/10 4:32pm

snorlaaax

purplerain14 said:

Asymphony5 said:

Wow.. kid, you expect some respect when you did not even give respect to those who might have a different opinion than yours? confused

I suggest you read your comment again. cool

i said that i wanted to see what other peoples oppinion on it was! i respect everyones oppinion! i just dont understand why they have to call me dumb, that has nothing to do with prince.......dont u agree?

i suggest u read my comment again, cool

lol you're basically calling everyone who prefers MJ over Prince naive, that's not really respecting someone's opinion right? lol Talking trash and DISrespecting other artists also have nothing to do with Prince..

You expect respect back, yet you show total disrespect...

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Reply #46 posted 11/24/10 4:48pm

Marrk

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Even though i've seen every Prince tour in the UK since Lovesexy, got all his studio albums and have hundreds of bootlegs, i've just always liked Michael Jackson more. Sue me.

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Reply #47 posted 11/24/10 5:06pm

purplerain14

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snorlaaax said:

purplerain14 said:

i said that i wanted to see what other peoples oppinion on it was! i respect everyones oppinion! i just dont understand why they have to call me dumb, that has nothing to do with prince.......dont u agree?

i suggest u read my comment again, cool

lol you're basically calling everyone who prefers MJ over Prince naive, that's not really respecting someone's opinion right? lol Talking trash and DISrespecting other artists also have nothing to do with Prince..

You expect respect back, yet you show total disrespect...

i never said that, ur just makin stuff up....i said people who listen to music that is trendy, but doesnt have any real meaning to it r naive! do u know how to read? i think u should look up the definition of RESPECT! smile

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Reply #48 posted 11/24/10 8:43pm

buttcheeks

purplerain14 said:

I dont understand why some people dont see prince as one of THE BEST musical geniuses of all time! im only 14 and i do know some people my age who like real music..(like prince), and respect him as muck as i do, but then u get this group of people who are just naive, and like music that the artist didnt really even make, and really has no meaning to it, and i dont see why some people like mj so much, sorry to say it but he was a child molester, and a real weirdo, but im not saying that he didnt have a couple good songs when he was in the jackson 5, and alot younger , but he should have NEVER been named the king of anything, especially pop, if anything prince should have! i know prince has probably more fans then mj, but it just makes me mad how some people dont give a crap about the truth, or what REAL music is. prince has made so much awesome music, and entertainment for all his fans, now i think its time for the world to show him how much we care! thanks to all the fans who already do! may you live to see the dawn!

A lot of this is true, good post. Leave out the MJ stuff. Prince stands alone

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Reply #49 posted 11/24/10 10:43pm

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Marrk said:

Even though i've seen every Prince tour in the UK since Lovesexy, got all his studio albums and have hundreds of bootlegs, i've just always liked Michael Jackson more. Sue me.

i love ur avatar biggrin state of shock is fantastic i love it heart

this too shall pass
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Reply #50 posted 11/25/10 1:51am

polkadotbliss

respect................

lol

he needs to show some respect first-and as he thinks HE IS music and EVERYONE else is playing catch up (with 80's prince ) then-he's caused the situation himself

plus-how the heck do you respect a guy that comes out with such bribble in interviews

musically-he's great-away from music-sorry but he seems duller than dishwater

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Reply #51 posted 11/25/10 10:37am

hbk183

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I think the reasson why Prince doesn't get the respect he deserves, is because his music isn't as exposed on the internet, like other artists. It is incredible hard to find his music on websites like youtube, well at least for me, which makes it hard for newer generations to discover Prince as an artist.

If he would just let people post some fine music and live performances on youtube, without deleting the audio right away, much more people would be aware of his talent.

I'm 19, I just started college and don't have the money to buy a lot of CD's. Before I buy a CD, I want to be sure that I like the artist..so what I do is go up to youtube and listen to the songs to know whether or not the album is worth buying or not.

Prince needs to stop being so damn greedy and just post his music somewhere, so people can actually enjoy his talent. People aren't going to buy an album, if they don't know how the artist sound like..

Prince don't want to post his music for free on youtube, the record company doesn't really promote it and the younger generation is unaware of his talent, if he doesn't change this pattern his music will turn into this hidden gems that only Prince fans know of and appreciate..

There is always myspace music. myspace has at least 7-10 albums of Prince albums that you could hear and joy with the same quality as if you pop the cd in to hear it. Check Myspace out and tell me what you think........ http://www.myspace.com/pr...sic/albums

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Reply #52 posted 11/25/10 11:29am

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polkadotbliss said:

respect................

lol

he needs to show some respect first-and as he thinks HE IS music and EVERYONE else is playing catch up (with 80's prince ) then-he's caused the situation himself

plus-how the heck do you respect a guy that comes out with such bribble in interviews

musically-he's great-away from music-sorry but he seems duller than dishwater

hmmm

this too shall pass
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Reply #53 posted 11/25/10 1:36pm

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robinhood said:

polkadotbliss said:

respect................

lol

he needs to show some respect first-and as he thinks HE IS music and EVERYONE else is playing catch up (with 80's prince ) then-he's caused the situation himself

plus-how the heck do you respect a guy that comes out with such bribble in interviews

musically-he's great-away from music-sorry but he seems duller than dishwater

hmmm

then u really dont know the real him, in interviews he can seen really shy, but he really isnt shay at all..u can tell by watching his performances

isnt this a website 4 people who r fans, and like prince?...........PRINCE.org

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Reply #54 posted 11/25/10 3:08pm

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why doesnt prince get enough respect as he should?


Cause he's an old man. Kids love other kids, preferrably 2 years older or something like that. Girls love fat girls becoming famous, showing it's possible even with love wheels. Etc. He's got a fan community just like Led Zep or Floyd have. He's totally out of all games, don't forget that. Prince is music from the 80s.

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Reply #55 posted 11/25/10 7:20pm

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Around The World In A Day.

How he handled his career after the success of Purple Rain to be more precise. I'm sure the artists whose success you're comparing Prince's to have more than one huge selling album. MJ, The Beatles, Led Zeppelin, all those considered "greats" are usually huge sellers while lesser selling artists like Prince and Bowie may be darlings with music critics aren't regarded as such by the mainstream.

Had Prince properly promoted ATWIAD (and maybe even changed some of the album), released better single choices and toured the U.S. with SOTT and gotten those albums to sell around the 6-10 million mark, not sign that absolutely ridiculous contract with warner in the 90's and not become a recluse until 2004 his media perception would be ENTIRELY different.

chill..prince doesnt like men being front row, makes it hard to sing the ballads
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Reply #56 posted 11/25/10 8:15pm

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smoothcriminal12 said:

TrevorAyer said:

mj is dead which means prince IS the king of pop now. long live the prince king

ps. dont believe all that media bullshit .. its all lies .. thats right ALL OF IT .. turn off the television stop reading news papers and learn to think for yourself or you will be programmed.

Your logic is horrible.

Regarding the media bs, He's Dead On!!!!!!!!

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Reply #57 posted 11/25/10 8:36pm

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Astasheiks said:

smoothcriminal12 said:

Your logic is horrible.

Regarding the media bs, He's Dead On!!!!!!!!

i thin his logic is great, and he is absoulutly right! nod

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Reply #58 posted 11/26/10 3:10am

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purplerain14 said:

Astasheiks said:

Regarding the media bs, He's Dead On!!!!!!!!

i thin his logic is great, and he is absoulutly right! nod

Jimi Hendrix is dead. Does that mean he's not the King Of Rock And Roll anymore?

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Reply #59 posted 11/26/10 4:43am

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Marrk said:

Even though i've seen every Prince tour in the UK since Lovesexy, got all his studio albums and have hundreds of bootlegs, i've just always liked Michael Jackson more. Sue me.

really ?....now i find this interesting.....i can fully understand someone loving prince and mj....but i cant get my head round how you can like mj more than prince if you are such a big prince follower?....mj was a great singer..good songwriter though not a great one...great dancer....hugely popular ....but if you have seen prince live soo many times and listened to all his music and understand his musicial talent across all genres of music...his amazing ability on most instruments that far outstrips mj talents...his songwriting which is far more diverse and stronger than mj's was...just as an all round artist...mj didnt compare to prince....i find it very interesting that someone who KNOWS how good prince is can prefer michael jackson ???...

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