I know he's no Judy, Cher, or Madonna, but you gotta admit some gay people still love him despite the horrible comments he made a few years back. Even though he is not gay you gotta give props to an adrogynous black man in America who wore make up bikini briefs, ass-less chaps and feminzed himself in hetrosexual relationships with songs like Head, If I Was Your Girlfriend, Sexy MF, & P Control. Plus he had two lesbians in a band called "the Revolution" with album titles like "Parade" and "Purple Rain" the only color that is more gay than purple is pink, and he made androgyny and bisexuality hip in the 80s so with this I ask, "should prince be considered a gay icon, even if he wants nothing to do with us?

let us not forget "if i gave u diamonds and pearls would you be a happy boy or a girl.

Oh and the rainbow children?

No, I don't think so. Because the definition of a "gay icon" would mean that he's gay.

Prince surely is an icon, but not that type of icon.

Gay = Happy

Homosexual = Loving someone with the same sex as you

Now tell me, how does the colour purple imply happiness or loving another person with the same sex? How does make-up or a certain type of clothes imply that?

It's only what the media and desperate homosexuals made out of homosexuality, but logic indicates that nothing Prince ever did in public has anything to do with homosexuality. Freedom, maybe, but not homosexuality.

Prince is not considered a gay icon because he has never aligned himself with the gay community, acknowledged his gay fans, or really made any kind of positive stand/comment in that direction. In recent years in fact, quite the opposite.

Now if you want to make the case for him being a queer icon, with everything that encompasses, then yes, I'd go with that - but he's always gonna be way down the list in the gay icon stakes. Well, at least until he comes out/is outted, finally. *gasp* j/k!

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colorblu said:

No, I don't think so. Because the definition of a "gay icon" would mean that he's gay.

Prince surely is an icon, but not that type of icon.

Ummm...no. There are many gay icons (ie, people who are iconic to the gay community) who are not, themselves, gay.

A lot of my friends think Prince is gay. Of course the more rural of place you live the more this way of thinking exists. He may already be a gay icon. LOL!

Dave1992 said:

Gay = Happy

Homosexual = Loving someone with the same sex as you

Now tell me, how does the colour purple imply happiness or loving another person with the same sex? How does make-up or a certain type of clothes imply that?

It's only what the media and desperate homosexuals made out of homosexuality, but logic indicates that nothing Prince ever did in public has anything to do with homosexuality. Freedom, maybe, but not homosexuality.

Get a sense of humor!

yes, he is a gay legend

but not a gay icon

No. I think Trick Daddy should be considered one.

colorblu said:

No, I don't think so. Because the definition of a "gay icon" would mean that he's gay.

Prince surely is an icon, but not that type of icon.

That doesn't make any sense lots of gay icons are not gay themselves in fact most are not.

1. David Bowie

2. Cher

3. Madonna

4. Judy Garland

5. Lady Ga Ga

6. Janet Jackson

7. Corretta Scott King she was very supportive of gay rights in the political realm and is an icon in the gay community.

8. Cyndi Lauper VERY SUPPORTIVE

9. Mary J. Blige she is very supportive

10. Barbra Streisand

Many gay icons are not gay, they can be artists or political figures who are overtly sexual beings, endorse freedom, or androgynous I think that just summed up Prince.

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Dave1992 said:

Gay = Happy

Homosexual = Loving someone with the same sex as you

Now tell me, how does the colour purple imply happiness or loving another person with the same sex? How does make-up or a certain type of clothes imply that?

It's only what the media and desperate homosexuals made out of homosexuality, but logic indicates that nothing Prince ever did in public has anything to do with homosexuality. Freedom, maybe, but not homosexuality.

Drag queens wear makeup all the time and purple IS a queer color. You are obviously not gay! + Gay does = Happy if homosexual is your orientation and you embrace and aren't afraid of it!

God don't make no mistakes!

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I guess it really depends how U define icon and what each individuals' interpretation is of the visual representation of something that is abstract.

I know lots of people who suggested he was gay but personally I never picked that up from him. Like Corretta Scott King, Prince may have seemed to support gay rights, which could make him an icon to gays, but it wouln't make him a 'gay icon' imo.

Everyone thinks differently and it might only be my understanding of the word icon that seperates our opinions. If i took icon to mean image, symbol or sign of something, then I can easily see how some might interpret it that way. imo

I can only think of a few Gay icons...that are actually Gay...George Michael, Boy George...regardless...Prince is an icon!!!

PimpandCircumstance said:

Dave1992 said:

Gay = Happy

Homosexual = Loving someone with the same sex as you

Now tell me, how does the colour purple imply happiness or loving another person with the same sex? How does make-up or a certain type of clothes imply that?

It's only what the media and desperate homosexuals made out of homosexuality, but logic indicates that nothing Prince ever did in public has anything to do with homosexuality. Freedom, maybe, but not homosexuality.

Get a sense of humor!

So you are saying that you know that this topic is meaningless and stupid and you want to tell us that you were only joking?

PimpandCircumstance said:

Dave1992 said:

Gay = Happy

Homosexual = Loving someone with the same sex as you

Now tell me, how does the colour purple imply happiness or loving another person with the same sex? How does make-up or a certain type of clothes imply that?

It's only what the media and desperate homosexuals made out of homosexuality, but logic indicates that nothing Prince ever did in public has anything to do with homosexuality. Freedom, maybe, but not homosexuality.

Drag queens wear makeup all the time and purple IS a queer color. You are obviously not gay! + Gay does = Happy if homosexual is your orientation and you embrace and aren't afraid of it!

God don't make no mistakes!

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So what? I wear make-up too and I'm not homosexual. And the part about the colour purple is simply a thesis of yours and it will always remain one, no matter how many people agree with you or how much you emphasise the word "is".

I ask again: What does colour have to do with sexuality? What does make-up have to do with sexuality?

There's a huge difference between what you call "queer" and actual homosexuality. The latter has always existed, "queerness" is something that was created a couple of centuries ago.

Prince simply did whatever the fuck he wanted.

does that mean prince .org is a gay icon of the internet ?

PicklesMcMillan said:

yes, he is a gay legend

but not a gay icon

F.T.W.

Lookin' at all the muthafuggin' money these gay icons make and the lifestyles they lead, I just got one question:

Where can a brutha sign up to be one?!

Hell, I'll $ettle for gay legend. Them muthafugga$ don't do bad either.

Dave1992 said:

PimpandCircumstance said:

Drag queens wear makeup all the time and purple IS a queer color. You are obviously not gay! + Gay does = Happy if homosexual is your orientation and you embrace and aren't afraid of it!

God don't make no mistakes!

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So what? I wear make-up too and I'm not homosexual. And the part about the colour purple is simply a thesis of yours and it will always remain one, no matter how many people agree with you or how much you emphasise the word "is".

I ask again: What does colour have to do with sexuality? What does make-up have to do with sexuality?

There's a huge difference between what you call "queer" and actual homosexuality. The latter has always existed, "queerness" is something that was created a couple of centuries ago.

Prince simply did whatever the fuck he wanted.

What does makeup half to do with sexuality? Well of course it doesn't make one gay...however men who wear makeup and dress like women does make one transgendered which is a sexual identity...of course there are heterosexual men who are transgender. The reason why I might suggest that he might be a gay icon is that he WAS all about freedom in a society where racism, sexism, and homophobia benefit from each other. What I loved about Prince's image particularly From For You through 1999 is that it was all about freedom to be who you are and who God created you to be remember:

white, black, puerto rican everybody just a freakin'

where i come from we don't let society tell us how its supposed to be

am i black or white am i straight or gay?

Sexuality is all i'll ever need

no child is bad from the begining they only immitate there atmosphere

Gay people who are being bullied can definatly relate to these lyrics that are very liberating in an oppressive society.

I am in no way saying Prince is gay, nor do I believe he is...like I said most gay icons are not gay but from the tone of your wrightings it sounds like you are upset that a certain group of people who you might not be comfortable with are embracing someone you like. Its okay just because GLBT folks like Prince, in no way compromises your privelege as a heterosexual in this bigoted society. What is wrong with a group of people embracing someone who is not identified with them?

Dave1992 said:

PimpandCircumstance said:

Drag queens wear makeup all the time and purple IS a queer color. You are obviously not gay! + Gay does = Happy if homosexual is your orientation and you embrace and aren't afraid of it!

God don't make no mistakes!

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So what? I wear make-up too and I'm not homosexual. And the part about the colour purple is simply a thesis of yours and it will always remain one, no matter how many people agree with you or how much you emphasise the word "is".

I ask again: What does colour have to do with sexuality? What does make-up have to do with sexuality?

There's a huge difference between what you call "queer" and actual homosexuality. The latter has always existed, "queerness" is something that was created a couple of centuries ago.

Prince simply did whatever the fuck he wanted.

I'm glad you wear makeup and you are not gay... be fee to be the person God has created you to be and allow that right to others.

"There is no longer Jew or Greek, there is no longer slave or free, there is no longer male and female for all of you are one in Christ Jesus." Galatians 3: 28 (NRSV)

Blessings and love PEACE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Um, no.

Maybe I'm missing something, but how can a man that's never aligned himself with the gay community and is not gay, be considered a gay icon?

I'm sure that title would be the last thing Prince would want to be considered...

The things noted about him all are irrelevant. Prince was all about being himself and doing whatever came to his mind. The color purple or the fact that he wears make up, or wore weird clothes has nothing to do with anything except he wanted to push the boundaries and make people quit being stereotypical.

DaphneLovesPR1NCE said:

Um, no.

Maybe I'm missing something, but how can a man that's never aligned himself with the gay community and is not gay, be considered a gay icon?

I'm sure that title would be the last thing Prince would want to be considered...

The things noted about him all are irrelevant. Prince was all about being himself and doing whatever came to his mind. The color purple or the fact that he wears make up, or wore weird clothes has nothing to do with anything except he wanted to push the boundaries and make people quit being stereotypical.

All of the things you just said make him a gay icon... the fact that he pushed boundaries and made people quit being stereotypical... gay people love that.

A gay eye con.... oh never mind...

The org is 97% gay. MoQuake.com is 95.3% gay. PrinceFams.com is 102% gay. The first 20 rows at every Prince concert are filled by gay people. Bria Valente is a gay man. the symbol almost replaced the pink triangle and rainbows as a gay identifier, but lost out by three votes at the annual national gay conference. I'm pretty sure all of this can be verified on Wikipedia.

So, yeah, Prince is iconically gay - and there's not a thing he can do about it.

Just gotta love the way some old subjects never die...

But does Prince have a negative standing towards gay people?

DaphneLovesPR1NCE said:

The things noted about him all are irrelevant. Prince was all about being himself and doing whatever came to his mind. The color purple or the fact that he wears make up, or wore weird clothes has nothing to do with anything except he wanted to push the boundaries and make people quit being stereotypical.

The fact you think all of that is irrelevant shows exactly how little you understand what makes a gay icon.

Really, the only fans truly qualified to answer this statement are the gay ones...

We know he's gay but don't think he's a gay icon.

Dave1992 said:

It's only what the media and desperate homosexuals made out of homosexuality, but logic indicates that nothing Prince ever did in public has anything to do with homosexuality. Freedom, maybe, but not homosexuality.

Prince has invited the suggestion and played with people's perceptions of him in relation to these ideas from the earliest years? Even when that has not been his main intention, for example, he has chosen lyrics that blatantly, unmistakably allow a "queer" reading. Whether this has been for personal/artistic reasons or merely as a commercial/marketing tool is anybody's guess and may differ from instance to instance.

His continual tease with androgynous representations and depictions of himself is part and parcel with the idea of homosexuality in the eyes of the mainstream public, as well.

It's only been since his conversion to JW that he's really toned this stuff down or purposely avoided it.