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Thread started 09/18/10 5:10pm

peec2fengaz

what is the weirdest prince story you ever heard

here's one that's hard to beat..

i came across this crap on the web..i've been a fan of prince since "83" but i have never heard this one till now..check this bs out..

Prince is Dead (PrID)

After filming "Purple Rain", on April 7, 1985, near the end of the "Purple Rain" Tour, Prince Rogers Nelson died in a tragic motorcycle accident. Considering the success of "Purple Rain" and the fact that Prince was reaching his peak at the time of his demise, those close to him made the decision to replace him with a double, heavily modified with cosmetic surgery. Government ties ensured that the secret remained buried.

This double differed from Prince in several ways:

He was shorter.

He was a bit more pale skinned.

He was a devout Jehovah's Witness with reservations about singing "dirty songs".

His voice is close, but not identical to the original's.

Prince had a great sense of humor. The new one didn't take a joke very well.

The new one is younger by several years (how many is uncertain)

The new one's name was Christopher Victor Tracy.

Prince still had a large catalog of music that was unreleased, and they figured they could float on that for a long time, or at least re-record it with the new Prince.

Immediately after Prince's death, it was announced that Prince would discontinue live performances and music videos. This was because Christopher was still in need of refining his act as Prince. Christopher's first live show was in Minneapolis in October 1985. He did a few shows to rehearse the act in smaller venues, or with some of the Prince-related groups.

The first album featuring the new Prince was "Around the World in a Day", released without advertisement a few weeks after Prince's death. Christopher co-composed one track for the album; "The Ladder" - on which he also sang as Prince for the first time (although the track has a lot of older Prince vocals mixed in). He also insisted on re-editing the song "Temptation" to be less "lusty" and turned it to a religiously-oriented song of judgment, instead of the testament to sexual indulgence that it was originally.

"Hello" is a Prince song reworked into a Christopher song, and renamed to "introduce" Christopher to the world on a B-side, and describe his introduction to being famous. "I tried to them that I didn't want to sing..." It was also a response to Christopher's hesitation to join "Live Aid" because he wasn't quite ready for a big event so close to Prince's former friends and colleagues in the music industry.

Christopher began doing videos as Prince when the sales of "Around the World in a Day" started to stall. The first video he did was "Raspberry Beret".

Christopher credited himself as "Christopher" on the Bangles' song "Manic Monday", as well as many others. Record execs (and the federal agents who arranged his cover and cosmetic surgery) were not pleased that he kept trying to take credit as Christopher. He was sternly warned to stop dropping hints, but he kept doing it anyway.

Clues are scattered through all albums from 1985 onward; Especially in soundtrack to Batman. "Batdance" is practically a retelling of Prince's death and the disdain that Christopher feels for his predecessor's sinful lifestyle. This is why "Batman" is out of print and has been all-but written out of the Warner Bros. Prince discography.

The cover of "The Hits/The B-Sides" is meant to be viewed sideways, to show a "dead" Prince laying in repose.

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Christopher, as Prince, laying in repose.

The total shift in musical style was because Christopher was simply uninterested in Prince's former bare-bones Funk style, feeling more at home with R&B and Soul with more "spiritual" lyrics. While Prince was also a devout Christian, he was not as restricted by his religious background as Christopher was. Christopher even refused to perform any of Prince's "racy" songs in concert.

Basically, songs after 1985 that are explicitly sexual are old Prince songs that were in his catalog of unreleased tracks when he died.

"Under The Cherry Moon" was chock full of clues (both the movie and the soundtrack, "Parade".) A lot of the music in "Parade" was written by Wendy & Lisa, or adapted from Prince's older works. "New Position" is one such song that was Prince, but rerecorded with Prince's vocals by the Revolution. "Sometimes it Snows in April" was about Prince. They filmed in France to avoid the American press, and American film unions. The theme of Christopher being a gigolo was to parallel the idea of him being paid to replace another man. This was entirely Christopher's project. He even used his real name in the film, under the banner of "fiction".

The song "Christopher Tracy's Parade" was about inviting people to experience Christopher's choice in music, rather than Prince's. Christopher saw himself as a "holy" crusader of sorts, and his task was to clean up Prince's music and "save" his fans.

The Revolution didn't really like the Christopher, and some of them actively worked to out him, but they were told that if they revealed the truth, they would "regret it". It wasn't long after the new Prince's debut that the Revolution disbanded.

Christopher didn't release another album until 1987, with "Sign o' the Times" which was a mix of some older Prince and the Revolution tunes, some original Christopher compositions. Christopher bowed to Warner Bros' requests that he "keep the style Prince had" in his music, because he was still very much under their control at the time. His answer was to record two songs in the "Camille" voice, which was his voice sped up to sound like a parody of Prince's voice from his first few albums. The record execs were not amused.

To his credit, Christopher is an amazing performer, but he's not as open-minded as Prince was. Still, he managed to get some top-10 hits from "Sign O' the Times" and the record execs were satisfied, even if critics said the album was "less polished" than previous Prince albums, and reports from the studio said that Prince was loathe to work with other people in the room.

The NPG (Publicly, the New Power Generation. Privately, "Not Prince's Group") was formed to cover up Christopher's inability to produce a whole album on his own at the time (as was evidenced by the poor reviews of his solo projects) - Christopher doesn't perform very much on "Diamonds & Pearls" because this was an attempt by record execs to shift the focus from Prince to the band. It didn't work out, though. Prince was still the focus.

The whole "The Artist Formerly Known As Prince" thing was Christopher's attempt to get out from under the Prince legacy. It failed.

"Spooky Electric", the Prince alter-ego, is actually code for "naughty" songs that were performed or written by Prince. Christopher tried not to take credit for them by saying it was "Spooky Electric" who performed them.

"My Name is Prince" is a declaration of Christopher taking Prince's name and making what he sees as positive changes in Prince's reputation.

"The Black Album" is the real Prince's last album, most of it written years before, and Christopher did everything he could to prevent its release, wanting to avoid having the "dirty" Prince back in the public eye. It's black because the actual composer was dead. He said his decision to prevent its release was due to a "spiritual epiphany." Instead, Christopher released his reworked, solo, gospel project "Lovesexy" to a less-than-thrilled audience. Again, the identity of Spooky Electric was used, but this time it was only in reference to Prince, while "Camille" was Christopher's own mocking version of the old "horny" Prince, but toned into a more "faithful" version. The album ends in sounds of water, signifying "purity and rebirth". This was also the first album where Christopher uses the "eye" symbol extensively.

This marked the beginning of Christopher truly "preaching" to his audience.

Christopher did dub and perform songs from "The Black Album" - These were most likely his only contributions to the album, with the rest being Prince. These tracks are "Bob George", "When 2 R in Love" and "Superfunkycalifragisexy". They were performed during the "evil" side of his concerts (Prince music, or "naughty" songs) in Act I, and were then answered by his "good" side (Christopher music, and "godly" Prince music) in Act II.

Christopher was trying desperately to "reform" Prince's image to fit his own sensibilities, but audiences weren't as interested in this toned down, more spiritual Prince. His albums sales slipped, and his response was "Graffiti Bridge", which is meant as Christopher's sequel/answer to "Purple Rain". In it, the Kid, now played by Christopher, laments people turning away from his music because he's spiritual, but wins out in the end because of his faith.

The Love Symbol as a name was another part of Christopher's attempt to break away from Prince's legacy. "The Artist" was so sick of being called "Prince" that he simply flipped out for a while and refused to acknowledge the name.

In 2001 Christopher took his religion public by having "Prince" get baptized as a Jehovah's Witness. This was sold as a "conversion" but was just a cover for the religion he'd always had, since before becoming Prince.

Christopher was having increasing problems being Warner Bros. Prince stand-in. He didn't like the direction they wanted him to go. He didn't like the contract he was under. He hated being Prince during this period in time, and was told that if he revealed the truth he would be "taken care of." He responded by writing "Slave" on his cheek. It was shortly after this that Warner Bros released "The Black Album" despite Christopher still being against it.

He called his album "Emancipation" because he was finally stepping free from Prince's shadow and Warner Bros' control, and was free to do his own thing as long as he never openly revealed the truth. However, he continued to seed his music with references to his true identity, and inferences that Warner Bros were an evil organization with Illuminati ties.

in 1998, Christopher angered a lot of Prince fans with his "treatment" of the "Crystal Ball" compilation. He edited the music heavily, and relied mostly on his own tracks rather than older, unheard Prince tracks. "Cloreen Baconskin" seems to be the only true Prince track on the album.

On May 16, 2000 Christopher stopped using the Love Symbol and returned to allowing himself to be called "Prince", once he was completely out from Warner Bros' control. The company felt he had dried up as an artist, and didn't pressure him anymore. He was free to perform whatever he pleased now.

"The Rainbow Children" is Christopher's critique of the shadowy organizations who made him into Prince, and exerted such control over him for so many years. He imagines a world without such negative influences, as he sees them.

Still a phenomenal artist, he tends to record albums that could be described as "gospel funk" rather than the mainstream, risque music that was Prince's favorite. He has even managed to bury the hatchet with former members of The Revolution, and they have worked with him since.

Of course, Warner Bros. still repackages and sells everything Prince made, and much of the music Christopher performed while under contract.

Prince Rogers Nelson ------------ Christopher Tracy

When played backwards, in the song "Temptation" Christopher says:

@ 3:25 "I'm in you, I'm in you, I'm in you."

@ 4:24 "I ain't him."

Various times after 5:00 mark: "I'm gonna stay here."

Past 6:45 "Let me out, let me out, let me out!"

Just one example. More to follow.

Ed. Note: It seems that the April 7 concert-- the last Prince performance before he "retired from live performances" may not have been the actual day of death, but just the last day he appeared publicly.

Whether he died that night (unlikely) or in the following days is unknown. All that's known is that he dropped out of existence for a short while, and it was announced by his manager that "Prince's concert April 7th at Miami's Orange Bowl will be his last performance for an indefinite number of years"

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Reply #1 posted 09/18/10 5:51pm

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Reply #2 posted 09/18/10 6:04pm

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peec2fengaz said:

here's one that's hard to beat..

[story was here]

This was written as fiction and not meant to be based on theory or facts.

If prince.org were to be made idiot proof, someone would just invent a better idiot.
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Reply #3 posted 09/18/10 6:05pm

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THETHING66 said:

[Flame snip - luv4u]

confuse Are we now allowed to flame other orgers? Mods?

If prince.org were to be made idiot proof, someone would just invent a better idiot.
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Reply #4 posted 09/18/10 6:31pm

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confuse Are we now allowed to flame other orgers? Mods?

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Reply #5 posted 09/18/10 7:05pm

peec2fengaz

i know right..lol like who writes this stuff..

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Reply #6 posted 09/18/10 8:12pm

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had his ribs removed so he could give himself fellatio

lol who ever made that rumor up is an evil genius lol

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Reply #7 posted 09/18/10 8:58pm

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confuse Are we now allowed to flame other orgers? Mods?

Already on it, SG.

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Reply #8 posted 09/18/10 9:39pm

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squirrelgrease said:

peec2fengaz said:

here's one that's hard to beat..

[story was here]

This was written as fiction and not meant to be based on theory or facts.


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Reply #9 posted 09/18/10 9:47pm

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squirrelgrease said:

confuse Are we now allowed to flame other orgers? Mods?

Already on it, SG.


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Reply #10 posted 09/19/10 10:02am

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peec2fengaz

haha they also said that the thriller era mj died and that the other one was a replacement

the crap people come up with these days

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Reply #11 posted 09/19/10 2:21pm

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I was going to say 'that he put a handfull of bees in his mouth at a grave yard...'

but the better version of this story is that prince quit in 85 while filming 'Under the Cherry Moon' and his body double from the movie took over while Prince, hold up on a private island, chilled and maked albums.

"Keep on shilling for Big Pharm!"
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Reply #12 posted 09/19/10 2:29pm

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here is a new one!

In 1997 both Prince and Michal Jackson were offered and accepted a private early screening of the Nick Cage John Travolta movie 'Face off.' The producers, Nick, John, and director Jon Woo were hoping to get Prince and MJ to do some songs for it including a musical Face off to end all face offs called logically enough "face-off."

both refused but both were interested--obsessed even-- with the plot of the movie. Before long they were in contact and were talking about the possibility of switching rolls and faces...and the rest is as they say History!

"Keep on shilling for Big Pharm!"
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Reply #13 posted 09/20/10 11:01am

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LOL I still laugh about the story of Prince sending MJ a box of dead flowers! Supposedly MJ was in the hospital and Prince was mad at some comment MJ said about him and sent him dead leaves or something! It was speculated that it was some kind of hex on MJ or a "we're done" type of deal! confused

The stories that seedy journalists come up with! OP, that was similar to the story they wrote about MJ after Thriller. It's always interesting with the clues they come up with! I always noted how different Prince looked during the last 80s-90s. But there are things you can't change...

Prince is GORGEOUS. I'm inspired. GOD is GREAT. Is there anything else to say? lol
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Reply #14 posted 09/20/10 11:38am

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I think we all know the rib removal story LOL.

I also heard the story about Prince supposidly going to Michael Jackson's house in the 80's,and Bubbles the chimp used to freak out every single time Prince was there. Michael was convinced Prince was sending Bubbles telepathic messages. eek lol

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Reply #15 posted 09/21/10 6:32am

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LOL, that's a really funny lol

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Reply #16 posted 09/21/10 6:41am

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ah,....the good ol' "Paisley Park Files" lol I remember when that nonsense was circulating among fans,lol.

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Reply #17 posted 10/21/10 10:26pm

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i have to saw i have adhd and a very short attention span. i actually paused my ipod and read that long crazy post. thats funny! eek lol

i know marilyn manson had the rib removal story too,i never heard it about prince though?!

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Reply #18 posted 10/22/10 3:04am

Clare

Claire73 said:

I think we all know the rib removal story LOL.

I also heard the story about Prince supposidly going to Michael Jackson's house in the 80's,and Bubbles the chimp used to freak out every single time Prince was there. Michael was convinced Prince was sending Bubbles telepathic messages. eek lol

There's a reference to this in the Partyman video. thumbs up!

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Reply #19 posted 10/22/10 5:42am

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He filled every Mayte's hole when she was still jailbait...

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Reply #20 posted 10/22/10 6:26am

purpledoveuk

Related to that story - you only have to watch When Doves Cry and the film to see that story fuel could be added to the fire...when he's riding his bike his scarf flues up over his eyes and he has to swat it down to see where he's going.

But my weirdest story is what appeared a usually reputable broadsheet here in the UK in the early 90s when he first changed his name and there was all the confusion an Victor stuff. They ran a story that the name change to a male/female symbol coupled with his increasingly ambiguous (and ridiculous) look of boufoned hair was because he was due to undergo an operation to give himself both sets if genitals thus negating the need for a sexual partner...I believed it at the time and quit listening for a few weeks.

As the years go by it seems more and more ridiculous....the only people he seems interested in fucking in the Adar are his money paying fans smile
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Reply #21 posted 10/22/10 6:37am

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http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=58734&l=3bd70bda06&id=100000991547967

this story...

hope it works....

seriously. no way i'd have pounced on him. but she ruined it posing for playboy. imagine having lostyour virginity to prince....drool...

yoda i don't wear a cross?!!? i wear a prince symbol prince guitar wacky nutty I When Prince's cum dries, diamonds are formed. lol eek drooling no one tops prince in concert!
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Reply #22 posted 10/24/10 2:32pm

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purplemookiebut said:

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=58734&l=3bd70bda06&id=100000991547967

this story...

hope it works....

seriously. no way i'd have pounced on him. but she ruined it posing for playboy. imagine having lostyour virginity to prince....drool...

I LOVED Your story!!! biggrin biggrin woot! worship excitedexcited boogie boogie

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Reply #23 posted 10/24/10 3:34pm

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purplemookiebut said:

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=58734&l=3bd70bda06&id=100000991547967

this story...

hope it works....

seriously. no way i'd have pounced on him. but she ruined it posing for playboy. imagine having lostyour virginity to prince....drool...

Thanks for sharing biggrin

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Reply #24 posted 10/24/10 3:54pm

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^ if that article is true, then wow. a playboy doesnt want to be seen with a woman who posed for playboy.

the perils of vanity. its enough to end a sweet relationship. or was she merely another conquest who got tossed the second she didnt conform to his idea of what was publically acceptable?

mustve been hard for prince to be so wrapped up in his image and profile and what other people might think of him.

the endless confusion over which part of himself to honor, his integrity, or his vanity?

all the decisions he made to appease his adoring public and keep them on side...i'd love to ask him if it was worth it.

was it worth it prince? do you look good?

this too shall pass
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Reply #25 posted 10/24/10 9:45pm

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Many years ago I read a story (can't remembrer where) written by a young lady attending a Prince show and sitting alone fairly near the stage who said she was approached by one of P's bodyguards who told her that her presence was requested after the show at P's hotel room.

She knocked on the door fully expecting to be swooped upon by the sexiest man in show business and there was P all casual in a track suit.

He told her he wanted to cook for her and asked her what she wanted to eat. He didn't come on to her at all which really surprised her.

She told him she was expecting something different and he said to her that the Prince people see on stage is just his act and in real life he's not like that at all.

I know, not too weird or anything but kind of interesting.

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Reply #26 posted 10/24/10 10:52pm

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DakutiusMaximus said:

Many years ago I read a story (can't remembrer where) written by a young lady attending a Prince show and sitting alone fairly near the stage who said she was approached by one of P's bodyguards who told her that her presence was requested after the show at P's hotel room.

She knocked on the door fully expecting to be swooped upon by the sexiest man in show business and there was P all casual in a track suit.

He told her he wanted to cook for her and asked her what she wanted to eat. He didn't come on to her at all which really surprised her.

She told him she was expecting something different and he said to her that the Prince people see on stage is just his act and in real life he's not like that at all.

I know, not too weird or anything but kind of interesting.

I am friends with someone who he was once with.. and yes he is a different person in ways.. he still acts a little the same...

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Reply #27 posted 10/25/10 12:17am

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DakutiusMaximus said:

Many years ago I read a story (can't remembrer where) written by a young lady attending a Prince show and sitting alone fairly near the stage who said she was approached by one of P's bodyguards who told her that her presence was requested after the show at P's hotel room.

She knocked on the door fully expecting to be swooped upon by the sexiest man in show business and there was P all casual in a track suit.

He told her he wanted to cook for her and asked her what she wanted to eat. He didn't come on to her at all which really surprised her.

She told him she was expecting something different and he said to her that the Prince people see on stage is just his act and in real life he's not like that at all.

I know, not too weird or anything but kind of interesting.

he cooks too...oh this is the perfect man!!!!! michael from inxs i heard was a great cook too!could be worse. it could be like in queen of the damned with lestat biting and killing his grouipes crawling up the wall!!

i already know what he'd say to me if i ever met him. what he did to that interviewer with the eyebrow piercing...

(pointing everywhere)DID THAT HURT? i got 85 tattoos,43 piercings and a forked tongue. i'm used to that question. i wonder how i'd be with prince? i grew up being a huge korn fan and when i met jonathan it was like he was a best friend forever. i actually tend to be "less shy and nearly asbergers like" staring at the floor with normal strangers then with celebrities. starstruck? what's that?

yoda i don't wear a cross?!!? i wear a prince symbol prince guitar wacky nutty I When Prince's cum dries, diamonds are formed. lol eek drooling no one tops prince in concert!
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Reply #28 posted 10/28/10 8:44pm

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I heard a story that Mj went over by Prince's house

and was pressing up against prince's lady friend

so then prince and mj decided to play ping pong and prince hit mj in the ballz

i think thats just a silly rumour tho

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Reply #29 posted 10/29/10 6:05am

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xCece said:

I heard a story that Mj went over by Prince's house


and was pressing up against prince's lady friend


so then prince and mj decided to play ping pong and prince hit mj in the ballz


i think thats just a silly rumour tho



I was going to say that I think they prefer different age brackets...but the more I'm on here the more I read stories that make me think Prince is sailing close to the legal side of creepy
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