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Muse 2 The Pharaoh
love this slow jam, so cool and chill, such a sweet smooth vocal performance, and the lyrics are great too (imo)
do you like this song? and what do you make of the lyrics?
If she could be muse 2 the pharaoh If she could be muse 2 the pharaoh If she could be muse 2 the pharaoh Take a load off sweetie darling So there it is - 4 all 2 see If she could be muse 2 the pharaoh
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i like to think its about a Hebrew slave that inspires the pharaoh
but its probably about someone who inspires the him and gives him hope that one day they'll marry
really i have no clue
great jazzy track
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the music is really nice huh, so relaxing... this too shall pass | |
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Hmmm. I like the vibe of the song, but is he drawing comparison between slavery and the holocaust? | |
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The lyric indicates that (Prince thinks) Holocaust victims were better off because they died, whereas many American slaves survived only to see their bloodlines mixed with whitey.
And what is that OTAN shit? "The opposite of Prince is Ecnirp... spooky!!!!"
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Prince thinks NATO is Aten backwards.
He also thinks, like Freud, that Moses had something do with (or was) Ahkenaten.
Of course he also thinks if you stop counting, you can live as long as a tree, so...... | |
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true history shouldn't be trivialized. This is more accurate:
....only to see their wives, children and husbands raped, murdered, tortured and enslaved by an illigitimate segment of the American populace of those days.
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Aten? The Sun? Prince can be quite daffy. |
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Good point - the Jews had it made! |
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I love this song! Then again, I love everything on TRC! "Just like the sun, the Rainbow Children rise."
"We had fun, didn't we?" -Prince (1958-2016) 4ever in my life | |
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you wouldn't say...
Made into one of the largest genocides ever seen on European soil with somewhere in the range of 17 million people being brutally slaughtered, experimented on in genetic horror labs, etc.
Ya, death might've been the better option in the end, but it wasn't a quick one. Prince's arrogance and complete lack of knowledge about anything that has to do with non-Black history rears its ugly head again. I remember when TRC came out and there were huge debates and long bitchfests about this lyric because it is one of the most absurd things ever put from pen to paper. | |
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MISTERHANDS said:
:D "Just like the sun, the Rainbow Children rise."
"We had fun, didn't we?" -Prince (1958-2016) 4ever in my life | |
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If she could be muse 2 the pharaoh (if she could inspire him like Sheba did King Solomon)
(the choice of being with him and he making the eternal choice of being with him (eternally kingdom of heaven))
(sheba went on a journey because she heard of a King (solomon); for whom he was wise with the divine wisdom of proper judgement, compassion for the kingdom and love for all- before he fell with 10,000 women... he did manage to take care of everything from top to bottom in the Kingdom because his whole being was the choices thru the service of GOD within the choices)
(helix is the body dna... .Y and X chromosome mixed with the divine energy of conception)
(Intertwine - conception / creation of a baby thru divine intervention of God's will)
(THIS IS SELF EXPLANATORY and needs no input)
(This is about him deciding when they would get married)
(She pushing him into deciding to get married)
If she could be muse 2 the pharaoh (If she could just inspire him and not bring him down - she would be queen in his kingdom - (kingdom within (heart) "in my house there are many mansions (within the body the kingdom of divine love... the unification of Jehovah GOD's baptism in the word)
(upon unification - everything, as a man's responsibility would be supported / nourished to her)
(The future baby of 2045)
(If she submitted unto him, as he submitted to GOD Jehovah)
(The Song of Solomon - Beloved to Beloved foreverlasting life)
(Queen again the Kingdom within - true love unified with God Jehovah)
If she could be muse 2 the pharaoh Take a load off sweetie darling (Stop trying to push him into marriage and just go with the flow)
(Agenda through the hair = thoughts of destiny)
(Truth to be seeded to the generations to come from the baby to be born, as with the two into one)
(If she never stops fearing enough to actually allow him to guide her... then at some point, she may not be there to be with him)
(Enemy (temptation) tries to enter his heart)
(Enemy (temptation) does not enter his heart)
(The seed / DNA TRUTH OF GOD will be within them and protect them when the DEVIL tries to tempt or pursuade)
NATO/OTAN * The system of the Seed of CAIN (the first SIN)
(13 is not bad luck. it does not exist (12 disciples and Jesus Christ is 13)
(that is explained - there is no such thing as luck - there is only the faith in GOD and the service thru his WILL to do the right thing)
(The Seal of the Unites States include global talisman's from symbolism in a system)
(GOD Jehovah did not invent a man made system... therefore, it isn't truth)
Dem devil come dressed as light (STUDY THE WORD OF GOD for THE TRUTH is TRUTH but there are sheeps in wolves clothing)
(Untrained = Does not study the WORD of GOD and can be fooled by people, who speak to know but are only fooling those, who don't know the WORD of GOD)... to be told lies.
(All the people he will have around her and he, KNOW the WORD of GOD and TRUTH)
(When God Jehovah comes- he will come like a thief in the night)... REVELATIONS New World Translation Bible
(New World Translation - REVELATIONS - what will become)
(Example - WHEN GOD JEHOVAH comes - will you be with GOD JEHOVAH in TRUTH or be extinct)
(Simple: Do you follow or do you lead?) Either you know the truth or you don't.
(Will you make the choice to be with the right one)
The displaced bloodline with the white jailbait (The Seed of Either ADAM or the Seed of Satan - will you continue with GOD JEHOVAH bloodline or will you allow yourself to remain in SIN the Bloodline of Satan)
(Allow him to TUNE INTO the instructions of GOD JEHOVAH and let him guide you in the decisions together).
(They will be fine, if she allows him to guide her into the TRUTH)
So there it is - 4 all 2 see (self explanatory)
(It's up to GOD JEHOVAH if you are in the TRUTH or if you are LYING and DYING)
(It's up to you to choose not to choose and simply STUDY THE WORD OF GOD - TRUTH you live OR stay in a system of lies and DIE, simple)
If she could be muse 2 the pharaoh (See above ... at Beginning Endlessly - take care, me). Silence is really golden and Gold is the rose in the heart for the Rose Of Sharon is where We never departed, YHVH/INRI...me. | |
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Translation seems accurate at any rate ! | |
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Made into one of the largest genocides ever seen on European soil with somewhere in the range of 17 million people being brutally slaughtered, experimented on in genetic horror labs, etc.
Ya, death might've been the better option in the end, but it wasn't a quick one. Prince's arrogance and complete lack of knowledge about anything that has to do with non-Black history rears its ugly head again. I remember when TRC came out and there were huge debates and long bitchfests about this lyric because it is one of the most absurd things ever put from pen to paper. You'll never know a girl called Nikki and you'll never find Erotic City |
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re the 'white jailbait' lyric.. isnt that referring to white minors? whites under the age of 16 or whatever the age is? this too shall pass | |
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Proverbs 23:9 | |
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The best love story ever.
he said 'holocaust aside' meaning, not including it.. right?
i can see why this song caused so much debate, depending on interpretation..
maybe the romantics interpret it romantically and see it the way they want to
just as much as the socio-political-religious commentators see what they want to see as well
the only thing i have a slight discomfort about in this song is the patriarchal notion that a woman should be submissive to a man
what if she is smarter than him and he should listen to her instead of her listening to him?
i'm not sure gender is necessarily the sign post for intelligence or spiritual wisdom
just a thought. this too shall pass | |
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No, no you're not ascribing the statement above to me? I wrote nothing of the sort. Why would you gleen that from the song or my response?
What I did write was directly related to the ridiculous statement you penned "only to see their bloodlines mixed with whitey" which trivialized the meaning of the song as well as the atrocities against the Africans brought here against their will.
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You're right, he did say "holocaust aside"... So I'll sorta let it slide. This album/era was kinda when I feel Prince went a bit too far with his racism (er, I mean "pride").
Can we at least agree that the NATO/Aten stuff is nonsense? |
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I was just being snarky... The Rainbow Children brings it out in me |
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i dont know if its nonsense or not cuz i dont know what Prince means by it
maybe he knows what it means and it isnt nonsense to him or maybe its deliberate nonsense cleverly placed
i can see where the argument begins in regard to the 'racist' lyrics but i honestly didnt interpret them that way
he says 'white jailbait' - not just 'whites' - which to me indicates he's referencing a stereotype of minors in a bloodmix - which isnt necessarily racist - but might in fact be an observation of fact - in a generalised sense
for me the issue is still in regard to him saying that this woman can only be queen if she submits to the 'pharaoh'...
but we dont know who the pharaoh is, or if he's worth submitting to...
i like to think of relationships as a partnership where neither gender dominates the other
but they bring their own virtues to the relationship and do what each does best
without either of them vying for top dog position.
guess i'm surprised Prince would take that angle, if thats what he means, considering his own experiences with submission and how it made him feel.
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ok, got it. we all have our moments :hugs: | |
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and then the whole song is contradicted here in 2 the 9's:
Baby, take a real good look at my face
i agree with him here, a song about a biblical story with a few of his own thoughts thrown in isnt as powerful as the bigger story of what happens when either party thinks they can read the other's mind
Muse 2 the Pharaoh may well be the result of a night of Bible study with some of his own commentary added, simple as that with nothing more to it, i dont know.
i still like Muse cuz the music is so nice, but i think the whole 'playing the queen' thing can be a big mistake if the intentions behind it are selfish, and even more of a mistake if the Pharaoh aint worth it
typo edit [Edited 8/16/10 23:22pm] this too shall pass | |
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The lyric is: Holocaust aside, many lived and died But when all truth is told Would you rather be dead or be sold
That smacks of arrogance. He's saying that yes the holocaust was genocide, but get real - its better to die than to be sold like property. And I disagree. | |
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he says 'when all truth is told' which i interpret to mean; when you rise up above the details and semantics and look at the core issue...
would you rather be dead or be sold?
pretty straight forward question which no doubt elicits a one-word answer from the listener.
if he'd rather die than be sold then thats his choice i guess, same as your view is yours.
i dont feel like he's pushing his belief on me in this section.
what i'm struggling to understand is what the holocaust and the other socio-political statements have to do with being a muse to a pharaoh
am i missing something? or did his mind get hijacked by one of his other personalities during the writing of this song? lol
they seem like 2 totally different subjects, but i guess if he's linked them they must have a common denominator somewhere? this too shall pass | |
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I love Muse 2 The Pharaoh, as I do the whole album.
The love story is my favourite aspect of the work, and, although I'm sure it offers some insight into what Prince himself is looking for, I've never thought that was the main text of the story.
That said, my personal belief is that it describes the union between Jesus and Mary Magdalene and, given that no organised religion that I know of acknowledges such a union, I wouldn't suggest that's what Prince intended, but, like any artist, you don't get to pick how your fans interpret your work
What I do love about his indirect and sometimes very obscure lyrics is that, even after years of loving the album, I still search for more meaning which expands my own spiritual understanding along the way. Ironic, perhaps, given that the man offering inspiration to a boundless spiritual journey is the one (possibly?
In any case, this thread led me to search more about the Moses/Egypt connection, which led me to theories about Jesus being one in the same with Tutankhamun, who married Ankhesenamun, who is regarded by some to be the true Magdalene. So was Mary Magdalene really the Pharaoh's muse, who later, through her understanding of God, became queen?
Hmm...I put some breadcrumbs out here so I could find my way back after that...stand by...
Personally, I think the misinterpretation here is of the word 'holocaust', which has biblical meanings and, in fact, is regarded in some circles to be a disrespectful term for what happened to the Jews at the hands of the Nazis given that it has a sacred meaning in the Old Testament (http://cantuar.blogspot.c...caust.html).
I think Ankhesenamun was right on this one (the orger, not the...well, you know) - those lines refer to the JW interpretation of the Book of Revelations - nothing to do with WWII.
Being sold in this case imo refers to something beyond man's trade (but one that was perhaps in part facilitated by the slave trade); ie. if it was more than your body, rather your entire being, that was on the line, presumably then you'd rather a righteous death than to lose your soul to the 'Big Bad'.
As for NATO/Aten, I don't think so - it's unlikely to be an endorsement of a man-made political/military organisation by likening it to God, but more likely a reference to OTAN, a serpent deity said to be connected to "The Beast" (*long* explanation for the really keen - http://www.lasttrumpetmin...e2004.html).
Well, that's a lot of 'musing' (forgive me
I love the song on lots of different levels, and I enjoy that it (like all of TRC and lots of his other work) can be a catalyst for discussion and learning, but ultimately it was probably a mix of somewhat fixed and transient beliefs that held particular interest for Prince at the time and as interesting as it can be to look at and ponder on, it's certainly not worth investing much emotion into the process (unless it's the lovely gooey emotion that one might feel whilst listening to it *sigh*
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) settling into a fixed dogma himself. 
), but ultimately I think you have a good point here: 
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thanks so much for filling in the gaps for me, good to hear some direct info and another interpretation
here's another context which is interesting to me:
Like a thief in the night, my Lord come and strike
could he be saying that the Lord is responsible for many deaths and many saved lives, not including the holocaust? because he doesnt believe the Lord is responsible for the Holocaust?
maybe better to die by the hand of the Lord than be sold as slaves?
Sold 2 the one who can now mate
the keys on Prince's piano are black and white yes?
Yeah, we gon' be fine So there it is - 4 all 2 see If she could be muse 2 the pharaoh
still wondering how the previous lines relate to being a pharaoh's muse?
all that aside, wouldnt it be funny if he just makes this stuff up as he goes and doesnt give it a second thought once he's done with it? this too shall pass | |
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Thought provoking, but ultimately much more to dislike than to enjoy on this one. |
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