If they are only archetypes in his own mind, then it's no big deal (providing he's aware of this), but I do agree that he seems to take his beliefs as a license to judge others, moreso now (or possibly - hopefully? - then) than ever.
It makes sense to me that he, like many artists, works through spiritual, philosophical and even political ideas and opinions by way of his creative work.
We've seen plenty of different aspects of Prince through various albums over the years and to that end, The Rainbow Children is no different.
I think he was particularly excited about this one, and thus perhaps more pushy (and as such, controversial) because he really believed he'd solved the human puzzle - all the answers were apparently very clear to him during this stage of his life.
I'd be interested to know what he thinks about the album now (lyrically speaking). Does he still believe everything that he did back from TRC era? What's changed? What hasn't?
Has he figured out yet that the most valuable muse in the world to him lives within?
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now we're getting somewhere
makes even less sense that an inner muse should submit to outer ways, or continue to inspire him when he opts for the outer over the inner, or be tempted to engage in the outer when the inner is where the real kingdom resides this too shall pass | |
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Amen to that
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i was just looking for a picture of something to post related to our conversation and found this instead - lol
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I'll be 117, you'll be still sayin' "baby, not tonight"
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us angels got more than fuckin on our mind this too shall pass | |
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thank you for your interpretation of our interperative speculations
i tend to agree with you on one point though:
only the muse knows what this song is about
the pharaoh on the other hand is still playing mind games
in his comfort zone of one-upman-ship
supposing truth cannot be made known or even seen
such a slippery presumption when all is already known this too shall pass | |
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He has the one, move on!!!
No mind games, only workmanship.
Truth Truth Truth.
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are you referring to prince or the pharaoh? cuz i'm talking about the pharaoh..
whether or not prince has the one or not who knows - the song is sung in the 3rd person - most of the rainbow children narrative is prince telling a story
there's very little suggesting he's speaking about himself - which is why we were discussing possibilities...
i'll move on from the discussion when i'm good and ready thanks this too shall pass | |
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No doubt the Wise One will tell the Muse what this song is really about, now that she's surrendered her discernment into his care and keeping
And yes, perhaps one day I'll have a Pharaoh of my very own to explain it to me.
Umm...agreed.
Surely then, a perfectly valid way to appreciate art is to do exactly that - to speculate, share interpretations, observe reactions, etc...
As I said earlier in this thread, I am very grateful to Prince for providing music that assists me in learning more about myself and helps to expand my spiritual boundaries, even if they expand in ways that are counter to his own beliefs.
I would imagine that even Prince himself would discover more layers in his own work, should he ever choose to look back on works like TRC.
I'm working on it
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great to hear this too shall pass | |
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Proverbs 23:9 | |
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U gonna make me pull out the cd and listen 2 it again. See I always thought that it was about Prince but on the down low. Kinda like he put himself and his "muse" (I am starting to not like this word very much ) in the story. Like u said no one knows but the pharaoh and his muse. I love how deep this is going...............it's a blast. Proverbs 23:9 | |
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Egypt is Dead
She must be called a muse [Edited 8/22/10 15:14pm] | |
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apparently the word 'pharaoh' means an ancient egyptian ruler, of religion and politics, and is a compound word for 'the sun god'.
i might be wrong on these definitions but they were the 1st to appear when i looked it up.
1. is/was Prince an ancient egyptian ruler? 2. an authority in religion and politics ... yet JW's dont support politics? 3. is prince the sun god when he clearly lives his days by the light of the moon?
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Last time I looked up "RobinHood" It some weirdo in tights trying 2 play tough guy..... Maybe he gets weekends off to play on the internet???
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MoneyMade, the only love there is, is the love we make this too shall pass | |
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And that 2 Shall pass...honey!
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do you like the song Muse 2 the Pharaoh? this too shall pass | |
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No....
But it's possible 2 get promoted....if U earn it. Those that fail....R dismissed.
Tony M: During soundchecks, Mosley would rap while testing the microphone. Prince observed this and began to allow Mosely to gradually add his raps into live performances. Believing that rap would benefit his "street" credibility with his declining black audience Prince decided to elevate Mosely's position in the group.
I guess it's all about what sacrifice can U make.
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maybe ur right, Muse 2 the Pharaoh might be about sacrifice...
but the sacrifice of what ? this too shall pass | |
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When all truth is told....tutankhamen was born with the name tutankhaton & so was his wife ankhesenaton ....it was eje the military idiot who made them change their names/faith. Jesus can never ever be put in relations to -amen/amon ....that cup would be too bitter, nefer | |
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IF she could be muse to the pharoah someday she MIGHT be queen?
if she could be muse to prince maybe this song would be listenable ... one thing i find frustrating as a prince fan is when he ruins pretty good song ideas with rediculous lecture poetry. in fact i cannot in good concience call this poetry .. it has too much intention behind it .. it is not the word of god .. it is the word of man ... confused man at that ... the muse inspires truth .. this song lacks sincerety or love .. the muse has failed as the song states but reality is that prince failed and blames the muse.
prince concept of spirituality took a sharp nose dive during this era ... to me he sounds lost ... kinda like some tammy faye baker action all over a record .. yeah tammy can preach the same word as ghandi or moses but does it sound like she has a clue what spirituality is ... not to me anyway .. same for prince sorry ... and what is all this IF shit? ... sounds like the asshole in the relationship where IF u do this and IF u do that MAYYYYBE i will marry u ... well I guess he doesnt like her cuz he wants her to change and even then there is a big maybe MIGHT ... i dont think people who are walking a righteous path go around bribing people with being A QUEEN if they change this and that .. its just absurd .. besides with him she could only be princess ...
sounds to me more like he is pissed at himself for not being able to write anything worthwhile and he's blaming it on her .. like he could be KING of pop if he only she was a better MUSE and if he was king he could make her queen .. wha?
as for factual or historical significance .. well most of what we accept as true .. be it bible history egypt gods goddesses etc... its all severely distorted and manipulated .. the message is out there .. in art .. in truth .. when u stop reiterating someone elses "teachings" or "understandings" and start thinking and feeling for yourself that is when u KNOW ... he who feels it knows it ... lets not forget all words are made of spelling and a spelling they will bee .. be cause that is the intention not the truth | |
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great post imo, thanks for sharing your thoughts. this too shall pass | |
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........Sounds like He's comparing the Holocaust to the choice of blacks being sold into slavery for 400Yrs. I don't know???????????????? And I'm sure it would be politically incorrect or "anti-semtic" for him 2 make such a statement. | |
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1. I believe it means 1 who rules as or like the Sun/Son just like "Christ" or the Light...Jesus is the Son of the Sun or Light he is the Christ-ed Light ie he is illuminted or en-light-ened if u will "Jesus Christ" along with many other "enlightened" beings were "en-light-ened" they became like the light or of the light
2. "He" the Pharoah being a metaphor for 1 who surpases both religion n politics meaning he is above both.. he is 1 with the Sun/Aten/Ra the "Gods" representing the 12 signs of the zodiac if u "follow the Son/Sun u place no other god before thee. The Sun being our source of light/life meaning again he worships nothing above him but the 1 above the "Most High" IE as above so below... hence the Pyramids "also in reference to this being a view from the monotheistic religion of the 1 Sun "God" of Moses/Iknahten
3. When Androgynous u are both lunar n solar male/female yin/yang light/dark with both of these components together combining u have the elixer of LIFE. U become a co-creator hence giving birth 2 a child is the representation of being a co-creator A "Rainbow Child" then would be 1 who lives under the "Sun/Son" who understands he is liken 2 the image and made in the image of "God" being the Sun according to these beliefs. This then the "Son" being created from the Light for without light do we or will we exist? from nothing is the black hole of everything which is the possibilities of the Alpha n Omega of Everything and that becomes Infinite or Infinity
Each of these colors represents a planet/chakra/color/key on a musical scale/a vibration or a path 1 can follow ie worship, and that gets deep into symbols etc. which are used by all kinds of people/organizations/religions etc. That on a side note I thought this would be a great reason why the Artists new Cd has no "BAR-CODE" that being a tool of "the evil 1" or Set in the ancient Egyptian system of beliefs. Anyway so the Christ-ed light of Jesus being the light through a "man" which then is given the source of the Sun 2 create the colors from the light of the Son... Or as an Artist will do he/she creates Muse-ic
This in theory of the views within certain belief systems for which Ancient n modern Egyptians "scolars" and spirit beings believe. | |
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thanks for the information, appreciated
still struggling to see any similarity between all you have described, and prince.
could he really be deifying himself in this song? or is it just a story about a pharaoh?
i like the idea of the rainbow children being chakra-related, but i still wonder if that is what he meant this too shall pass | |
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