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It’s the 20TEN album review! We go into all 10 tracks and talk about a few random things as well, so laydown and get down to this new episode brought to you by the podcast that comes like thunder from the land down under!

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Stickyfied

thanks! will def check this out later!

Great review. I agree with Captain: "Act of God" is the best song on the album.

The shoutout at the end totally took me by surprise! Peach & Black helped to inspire Paisley Radio, so being acknowledged by you guys is a HUGE honor for me.

Keep up the good work!

psyched to listen on the way to work in

the morning

GREAT GREAT JOB!

Compassion - Prince being Prince...Great song!

Beginning Endlessly is TIMELESS!

Agree w/ The Captain on Future Soul(less) Song...Sounds are quality but the lyrics have no POINT!

Will listen to the rest of the Podcast 2morrow

Just listened to a bit more of the podcast and someone correct me if I'm wrong on Act of God....

When Prince says during most the song , "call it an act of God"...he's actually referring to what most non-believers think in jest when people do bad things to each other; Confirming to themselves that if God truly did exist, and he was as GREAT as believers think he is, he would never allow these things to happen. (I use "he" as a simple reference to God)

And it's not until the end of the song when Prince gives his true thoughts on the matter when he says, "call it what you want to except an act of God"... saying that man has choices to make and God allows you to decide your own fate.

soulfunky said:

Just listened to a bit more of the podcast and someone correct me if I'm wrong on Act of God....

When Prince says during most the song , "call it an act of God"...he's actually referring to what most non-believers think in jest when people do bad things to each other; Confirming to themselves that if God truly did exist, and he was as GREAT as believers think he is, he would never allow these things to happen. (I use "he" as a simple reference to God)

And it's not until the end of the song when Prince gives his true thoughts on the matter when he says, "call it what you want to except an act of God"... saying that man has choices to make and God allows you to decide your own fate.

Great post, soulfunky! I think you are spot on.

luv4u said:

Stickyfied

Thanks heaps Luv4u!! We really appreciate the org's support!

The Captain is hilarious. I cracked up when he discussed his hate for "Future Soul Song".

thanks 2 everyone involved with the podcast...

your reviews are so detailed... so fun... great!!!

peace and bwild!

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This is a controversial comment, but in listening to the Prince podcast rave about Future Soul Song and the Captain's comments it makes me wonder about how white people see Prince's music as compared to how black folks see it. Future Soul Song is a classic soul ballad and you have to like soul, really have it in your heart to understand it. I am not saying white P fans don't have soul, I am saying the Captain may lack it..lol

then there's the irony that that song is the most classic Prince sounding of all the new joints. mmmm

just listened....bit surprised you all didnt love this album more...?.....captain didnt like beginning , future soul , sticky , walk in sand and sea......and he still gave it an 8 out of 10 ?......i agree the two ballads tracks 7 and 8 do let the album down a bit but the first 6 tracks are the strongest he has done since gold experience imo......and i agree with mc that beginning endlessly is thee best track and up there with the best of the last 20 years....great great track.........i would give it a solid 7 out of 10....lotusflower would get an 8 .....still his best overall album of the decade for me.....keep up the good work boys......look forward to your six hour emancipation review

The Captain was all at most of the album, how did he come to the conclusion "20Ten" was an 8/10?

I thought he'd be honest and say 4/10 since he seemed to only really dig two songs on there ("Compassion" and "Act of God" and then he also liked "Everybody Loves Me" and "Lavaux", he also dissed "Walk in Sand" and "Sea of Everything". ) I gotta listen again, he said he thought "Beginning Endlessly" wasn't that good in his ears.

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I know what some of you are saying but I am thinking about the future.

We are still yet to review many albums which I think are way worse than his most recent output.

I am saving the low scores for those There are some real bombs yet to review !

Plus there is the fact that reardless of whether I think 'Beginning Endlessly' is awful, I can still appreciate that it is a decent song, I just happen to hate it That is one of the biggest things I think people overlook in regard to music criticisms. Just because you don't like a song doesn't make it crap, it just means you don't like it. Even songs I detest, I can usually eventually get something out of them subjectively and appreciate it.

Though I might adjust my 8/10 score for 20ten in the future after the sheen has worn off. 8 does sound a bit high, maybe 7/10 was closer to the mark, though the songs that I do like make up for the crap ones so it sort of balances out in that way ...

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2freaky4church1 said:

This is a controversial comment, but in listening to the Prince podcast rave about Future Soul Song and the Captain's comments it makes me wonder about how white people see Prince's music as compared to how black folks see it. Future Soul Song is a classic soul ballad and you have to like soul, really have it in your heart to understand it. I am not saying white P fans don't have soul, I am saying the Captain may lack it..lol

then there's the irony that that song is the most classic Prince sounding of all the new joints. mmmm

Well I admit it , I don't have the soul music in my heart, and apart from Prince and a handful of songs I don't really like what you would call 'black' music at all. I just don't get it. I don't like rap, hip-hop at all, I can not stand 98% of it.

So your comment makes total sense, I don't know what it is about Prince specifically that makes me like him or his music, I just know most other black artists DON'T have it.

I don't have soul musicin my heart, I know that, and I think a fair number of white people don't 'get it'. But then again you have a big difference between white Americans and white Australians. You guys grew up with this stuff in your culture and all around. Australia was basically all white and to an extent still is.

I would say not only is there a difference how white and black Americans hear Prince's music but even a huge difference between white Americans and white Australians hear it as well.

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^ So it's just an Australian thing to not get soul music? Lol

There is some market for it, I would think, over there. Prince was very popular in Australia once upon a time lol

Timmy84 said:

^ So it's just an Australian thing to not get soul music? Lol

There is some market for it, I would think, over there. Prince was very popular in Australia once upon a time lol

Well compared to the US & the UK which have a substantial number of black people , yes.

I live in Sydney and might I see a black person a few times per year - it is just something we do not have any contact with here, plus I don't listen to the radio so I don't hear any black music plus I don't see any black people. Unless I'm in say Raleigh or Columbia in USA - that's a different story - quite the opposite in fact !

I would say the main market here is teenagers who like anything in the top 40 but apart from playa I don't know anyone seriously into that genre of music here in OZ. And there must be a small African decended population in Australia, I just don't ever see them.

and yes Prince was once very popular but only after he crossed over into the mainstream, I can't be sure but it wasn't until after 1999 & Purple Rain that he was well known here down under. But he wasn't popular because he was black, he was doing very pop/rock oriented music which was not really associated with black artists up to that point. He was popular for the music, not who he was. It would be interesting to check the chart performance of his pop hits to his RNB releases in Australia and see the differences. I would guess the pop/rock songs hit way harder then the RNB ones did...

But I generally don't know what I am talking about - someone put me straight.

FunkyStrange said:

Timmy84 said:

^ So it's just an Australian thing to not get soul music? Lol

There is some market for it, I would think, over there. Prince was very popular in Australia once upon a time lol

Well compared to the US & the UK which have a substantial number of black people , yes.

I live in Sydney and might I see a black person a few times per year - it is just something we do not have any contact with here, plus I don't listen to the radio so I don't hear any black music plus I don't see any black people. Unless I'm in say Raleigh or Columbia in USA - that's a different story - quite the opposite in fact !

I would say the main market here is teenagers who like anything in the top 40 but apart from playa I don't know anyone seriously into that genre of music here in OZ. And there must be a small African decended population in Australia, I just don't ever see them.

and yes Prince was once very popular but only after he crossed over into the mainstream, I can't be sure but it wasn't until after 1999 & Purple Rain that he was well known here down under. But he wasn't popular because he was black, he was doing very pop/rock oriented music which was not really associated with black artists up to that point. He was popular for the music, not who he was. It would be interesting to check the chart performance of his pop hits to his RNB releases in Australia and see the differences. I would guess the pop/rock songs hit way harder then the RNB ones did...

But I generally don't know what I am talking about - someone put me straight.

Australia is rife with racism and it has immersed itself into society's conscious mind down there. It's well-documented. An Australian not "getting" soul music is funny to me. There is nothing about you as a person that prevents you from liking other black artists except for the fact you're probably conditioned to be that way.

I'm thinking some Australian Prince fans should move to the UK or in the US for a while and then see if their tastes change.

blackbob said:

just listened....bit surprised you all didnt love this album more...?.....captain didnt like beginning , future soul , sticky , walk in sand and sea......and he still gave it an 8 out of 10 ?......i agree the two ballads tracks 7 and 8 do let the album down a bit but the first 6 tracks are the strongest he has done since gold experience imo......and i agree with mc that beginning endlessly is thee best track and up there with the best of the last 20 years....great great track.........i would give it a solid 7 out of 10....lotusflower would get an 8 .....still his best overall album of the decade for me.....keep up the good work boys......look forward to your six hour emancipation review

Due to your lol emoticon I am guessing that you were joking but I would love a six hour Emancipation review. I think we'll probably get three separate episodes that run about 90 minutes each.

Spinlight said:

Australia is rife with racism and it has immersed itself into society's conscious mind down there. It's well-documented. An Australian not "getting" soul music is funny to me. There is nothing about you as a person that prevents you from liking other black artists except for the fact you're probably conditioned to be that way.

I'd love to disagree but Australia still has a fair amount of racism

but of enough of that - how do I get into soul music ?

Sam Cooke ?

FunkyStrange said:

Spinlight said:

Australia is rife with racism and it has immersed itself into society's conscious mind down there. It's well-documented. An Australian not "getting" soul music is funny to me. There is nothing about you as a person that prevents you from liking other black artists except for the fact you're probably conditioned to be that way.

I'd love to disagree but Australia still has a fair amount of racism

but of enough of that - how do I get into soul music ?

Sam Cooke ?

That's a good start. I also recommend James Brown, Motown (especially Marvin, Stevie and the Temptations and Four Tops), Otis Redding, Ray Charles, Aretha Franklin and them. Start off with that.

A bit off track but here are some great soul songs:

Anything that gets you listening to less John Farnham is a good thing.

FunkyStrange said:

Spinlight said:

Australia is rife with racism and it has immersed itself into society's conscious mind down there. It's well-documented. An Australian not "getting" soul music is funny to me. There is nothing about you as a person that prevents you from liking other black artists except for the fact you're probably conditioned to be that way.

I'd love to disagree but Australia still has a fair amount of racism

but of enough of that - how do I get into soul music ?

Sam Cooke ?

If you're really interested, check out those youtube links listed above. That's pretty classic soul and every song is a knockout, imo. Like Timmy said, as well, check out MoTown stuff. It's not exactly soul (more pop with R&B roots), but it retains some of the harmonies and melodies from soul music.

And btw - The stuff about racism in Australia wasn't a personal dig at you. Just noting that its the case and that its interesting to see how deep-seated the racism is. Doesn't mean everyone affected by it is a bad person, though.

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The problem with Future Soul Song is: It's a Prince ballad by numbers. Apart from the unconvincing non falsetto thing there is nothing in this song he hasn't done before.

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funkomatic said:

The problem with Future Soul Song is: It's a Prince ballad by numbers. Apart from the unconvincing non falsetto thing there is nothing in this song he hasn't done before.

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yeah I agree, it is better than some other attempts at ballads he has done recently but it still has nothing groundbreaking for me..

FunkyStrange said:

funkomatic said:

The problem with Future Soul Song is: It's a Prince ballad by numbers. Apart from the unconvincing non falsetto thing there is nothing in this song he hasn't done before.

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yeah I agree, it is better than some other attempts at ballads he has done recently but it still has nothing groundbreaking for me..

I got a question for you. Of the ballads he's done over the years, what are your favorites?