Just singing "Skillet" as I was washing my very own skillet.

It got me thinking:

I'm sure a lot of you out there have most of the Prince originals vs. the "finished" songs of the Time.

Which do you prefer?

The Prince versions or The Time versions?

????

[Edited 8/1/10 11:46am]

sro100 said:

Just singing "Skillet" and I was washing my very own skillet.

It got me thinking:

I'm sure a lot of you out there have most of the Prince originals vs. the "finished" songs of the Time.

Which do you prefer?

The Prince versions or The Time versions?

????

I like Prince's voice better on "Chocolate"

sro100 said:

I'm sure a lot of you out there have most of the Prince originals vs. the "finished" songs of the Time.

Actually, I think "Chocolate", "Love Machine" and "Databank" are the only ones circulating... I could be wrong.

That said, the Time's version of Databank sucks. It sucks hard.

Skillet is not a Prince song.

billymeade said:

sro100 said:

I'm sure a lot of you out there have most of the Prince originals vs. the "finished" songs of the Time.

Actually, I think "Chocolate", "Love Machine" and "Databank" are the only ones circulating... I could be wrong.

That said, the Time's version of Databank sucks. It sucks hard.

"Databank" is probably hands down my most hated Prince official release where the original was SO MUCH BETTER.

How could it not be? Didn't Prince create all of the songs of The Time?

billymeade said:

sro100 said:

I'm sure a lot of you out there have most of the Prince originals vs. the "finished" songs of the Time.

Actually, I think "Chocolate", "Love Machine" and "Databank" are the only ones circulating... I could be wrong.

That said, the Time's version of Databank sucks. It sucks hard.

Yeah I always dug the Prince version of Data Bank. Not so much The Time's.

databank said:

Skillet is not a Prince song.

How could it no be? Weren't all The Time songs first Prince "demos?"

sro100 said:

databank said:

Skillet is not a Prince song.

How could it no be? Weren't all The Time songs first Prince "demos?"

Not all the song were I think at leat not on Pandemonium. I could be wrong.

sro100 said:

databank said:

Skillet is not a Prince song.

How could it no be? Weren't all The Time songs first Prince "demos?"

Ok, time for history lessons

Prince composed or co-composed everything on The Time, What Time Is It? and Ice Cream Castles except for After High School which was a Dez Dickerson song (but it was rerecorded and rearranged by Prince).

Pandemonium is another matter. Initially, Prince composed and recorded a full album, named Corporate World. Then WB asked for the original line-up to be part of the project. It became Pandemonium, on which only 5 songs out of ten were Prince compositions. Blondie, Skillet, It's Your World and Sometimes I Get Lonely were all composed and recorded by The Time with absolutely no involvement from Prince. Pandemonium (the song) was not a Prince composition either, but he received some writing credits because it used the "fellas i'm back" chant, directly taken from the then unreleased Murph Drag (a Corporate World outtake, later released thru NPGMC in 2001). Except from that, he wasn't involved in that song at all either.

Therefore, the first 3 Time albums are 100% Prince albums under disguise.

Pandemonium, on the other hand, is a genuine Time album featuring 5 songs composed and recorded by Prince.

[Edited 8/1/10 15:29pm]

databank said:

sro100 said:

How could it no be? Weren't all The Time songs first Prince "demos?"

Ok, time for history lessons

Prince composed or co-composed everything on The Time, What Time Is It? and Ice Cream Castles except for After High School which was a Dez Dickerson song (but it was rerecorded and rearranged by Prince).

Pandemonium is another matter. Initially, Prince composed and recorded a full album, named Corporate World. Then WB asked for the original line-up to be part of the project. It became Pandemonium, on which only 5 songs out of ten were Prince compositions. Blondie, Skillet, It's Your World and Sometimes I Get Lonely were all composed and recorded by The Time with absolutely no involvement from Prince. Pandemonium (the song) was not a Prince composition either, but he received some writing credits because it used the "fellas i'm back" chant, directly taken from the then unreleased Murph Drag (a Corporate World outtake, later released thru NPGMC in 2001). Except from that, he wasn't involved in that song at all either.

Therefore, the first 3 Time albums are 100% Prince albums under disguise.

Pandemonium, on the other hand, is a genuine Time album featuring 5 songs composed and recorded by Prince.

[Edited 8/1/10 15:29pm]

Aww man... I thought Pandemonium was a Prince tune. It's pretty good. and the arrangement and attack seems so Princ-ish.

Yeah, for sure it would be really great to listen to the Prince originals of some of his protege tracks. That one for The Bird (baby U turn me up) is sooooo different from the released version of The Bird. By the way, Prince can nail the "Squwakkk!" in his sleep better than Morris ever could.

Some other ones it would have been interesting to hear Prince's version:

Nothing Compares 2 U (not the crappy duet with Rosey)

Cool

Ooo She She Wa Waa

For Love

Drive Me Wild

Ice Cream Castles

Just realised there are WAY too many to even list. Really hope this stuff sees the light of day after his death

Wildboy said:

Just realized there are WAY too many to even list. Really hope this stuff sees the light of day after his death

Yep, sometimes I forget just how deep his his work runs, and it reminds me again why I became such a huge fan in the first place.

I have no doubt that his work will get the proper treatment and recognition he deserves one day, the real question is how difficult will Prince make it to get it done.

He seems to like to get in the way of his own success.

[Edited 8/1/10 22:43pm]

violetblues said:

Wildboy said:

Just realized there are WAY too many to even list. Really hope this stuff sees the light of day after his death

Yep, sometimes I forget just how deep his his work runs, and it reminds me again why I became such a huge fan in the first place.

I have no doubt that his work will get the proper treatment and recognition he deserves one day, the real question is how difficult will Prince make it to get it done.

He seems to like to get in the way of his own success.

[Edited 8/1/10 22:43pm]

Prince will be a greater revelation than Armageddon. However I have never liked the Time-just see it as silly and as a result completely bores me. I always found it weird in Purple Rain how there was ever any competition-even tho I know in realty that Time stuff did outsell Prince at times. Bizarre

databank said:

sro100 said:

How could it no be? Weren't all The Time songs first Prince "demos?"

Ok, time for history lessons

Prince composed or co-composed everything on The Time, What Time Is It? and Ice Cream Castles except for After High School which was a Dez Dickerson song (but it was rerecorded and rearranged by Prince).

Pandemonium is another matter. Initially, Prince composed and recorded a full album, named Corporate World. Then WB asked for the original line-up to be part of the project. It became Pandemonium, on which only 5 songs out of ten were Prince compositions. Blondie, Skillet, It's Your World and Sometimes I Get Lonely were all composed and recorded by The Time with absolutely no involvement from Prince. Pandemonium (the song) was not a Prince composition either, but he received some writing credits because it used the "fellas i'm back" chant, directly taken from the then unreleased Murph Drag (a Corporate World outtake, later released thru NPGMC in 2001). Except from that, he wasn't involved in that song at all either.

Therefore, the first 3 Time albums are 100% Prince albums under disguise.

Pandemonium, on the other hand, is a genuine Time album featuring 5 songs composed and recorded by Prince.

[Edited 8/1/10 15:29pm]

Lisa coleman co-wrote the stick, Dez Co-wrote cool and according to Andre Cymone he wrote or co-wrote some stuff on the first Time album. Andre also claims to have came up with the whole cool concept, after watching kid Creole and the Coconuts on TV, while on tour in france.

databank said:

sro100 said:

How could it no be? Weren't all The Time songs first Prince "demos?"

Ok, time for history lessons

Prince composed or co-composed everything on The Time, What Time Is It? and Ice Cream Castles except for After High School which was a Dez Dickerson song (but it was rerecorded and rearranged by Prince).

Pandemonium is another matter. Initially, Prince composed and recorded a full album, named Corporate World. Then WB asked for the original line-up to be part of the project. It became Pandemonium, on which only 5 songs out of ten were Prince compositions. Blondie, Skillet, It's Your World and Sometimes I Get Lonely were all composed and recorded by The Time with absolutely no involvement from Prince. Pandemonium (the song) was not a Prince composition either, but he received some writing credits because it used the "fellas i'm back" chant, directly taken from the then unreleased Murph Drag (a Corporate World outtake, later released thru NPGMC in 2001). Except from that, he wasn't involved in that song at all either.

Therefore, the first 3 Time albums are 100% Prince albums under disguise.

Pandemonium, on the other hand, is a genuine Time album featuring 5 songs composed and recorded by Prince.

[Edited 8/1/10 15:29pm]

I always knew "Pandemonium" sound too Flyte Tyme to have Prince's involvement....something was just too Cherrelle / Alexander O'Neal about that production. Thanks for clearing that up.

paisleypark4 said:

databank said:

Ok, time for history lessons

Prince composed or co-composed everything on The Time, What Time Is It? and Ice Cream Castles except for After High School which was a Dez Dickerson song (but it was rerecorded and rearranged by Prince).

Pandemonium is another matter. Initially, Prince composed and recorded a full album, named Corporate World. Then WB asked for the original line-up to be part of the project. It became Pandemonium, on which only 5 songs out of ten were Prince compositions. Blondie, Skillet, It's Your World and Sometimes I Get Lonely were all composed and recorded by The Time with absolutely no involvement from Prince. Pandemonium (the song) was not a Prince composition either, but he received some writing credits because it used the "fellas i'm back" chant, directly taken from the then unreleased Murph Drag (a Corporate World outtake, later released thru NPGMC in 2001). Except from that, he wasn't involved in that song at all either.

Therefore, the first 3 Time albums are 100% Prince albums under disguise.

Pandemonium, on the other hand, is a genuine Time album featuring 5 songs composed and recorded by Prince.

[Edited 8/1/10 15:29pm]

I always knew "Pandemonium" sound too Flyte Tyme to have Prince's involvement....something was just too Cherrelle / Alexander O'Neal about that production. Thanks for clearing that up.

Yeah but Pandemonium has a really cool sound to it. Specifically the high funk chord that is mixed in a hard brittle way t where it sounds percussive and mixes with the beat. It sounds great. And the first lyric sung has that unexpected longer syllable"d" phrase that is fit right into the rhythm in a great way. Similar to the "enter the room" phrase in "Prince and the Band". None of the other tracks from the Time end of things seem to have this magic.

The Time's version of "Jerk Out" was hands down better than Prince original version. It kicked ass...

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

The Time's version of "Jerk Out" was hands down better than Prince original version. It kicked ass...

Prince never did sing on one did he? The bootleg is still an other vocalist if I remember correctly.

^Correct. The circulating version is by Mazarati.

vitriol said:

^Correct. The circulating version is by Mazarati.

Oh ok!. But The Time version is still better. I'm sure Prince wrote & produced it

ufoclub said:

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

The Time's version of "Jerk Out" was hands down better than Prince original version. It kicked ass...

Prince never did sing on one did he? The bootleg is still an other vocalist if I remember correctly.

Prince's version DO exist (and there are probably several of them), but is/aren't circulating. The final (released) mix was apparently reworked by The Time without Prince: http://princevault.net/in...p/Jerk_Out

databank said:

ufoclub said:

Prince never did sing on one did he? The bootleg is still an other vocalist if I remember correctly.

Prince's version DO exist (and there are probably several of them), but is/aren't circulating. The final (released) mix was apparently reworked by The Time without Prince: http://princevault.net/in...p/Jerk_Out

I'd like to hear that!

I never knew that about the Pamdemonium album. That definately explains why that was always my favorite Time album now. Its weird too becuase the songs u mentioned were my favs on the album along with Jerk Out. COOL!!