4 standout tracks, 2 OK tracks, 4 turds = back to the drawing board, Purple One.

ufoclub said:

alexnvrmind said:

Prince - 20ten (My opinion, which I am entitled to, like it or not. And if not then kick me out of the commune. PEACE!)

Musically it's OK. A bit over produced and busy in areas but without the lyrics I could almost enjoy this album and consider it better than 'OK'. As for the retro sound, I understand what he is doing, and while it worked to a point on MPLSound, I think he should have left well enough alone. If I want retro I can listen to the original albums. Also since when does Prince bow down like this? That's one of the whole points of his music. It doesn't sound like anything else to include his
previous works.

Lyrically... where do I begin? I want so much to like the positive messages and romantic sentiments but most of the lyrics don't have any flow to them. I read years ago how David Bowie came up with lyrics by writing down his thoughts and copying phrases and quotes he'd seen or
read and then would work them together for lyrics to his songs. Somehow it seems like Prince is doing this but he's not smoothing them out, they just ramble on.

And even though Laydown is possibly one of the best sounding songs on this egotistical mess, with lyrics like 'from the heart of Minnesota here come the purple Yoda guaranteed to bring the dirty new sound' which honestly makes 'My name is Prince and I am funky' sound like Tolstoy, he's going to be laughed out of the business and considered 'done' by anybody except the 'extreme hardcore fans.'

Thankfully there's no sign of anything even remotely akin to 'Purple & Gold' however 'Hot Summer' & 'Cause & Effect' might have been OK on this project.

B.L.U.F. : This album is perhaps the best argument for him to go back to doing what he did with stuff like, N.E.W.S., C-Note & Xpectation! Let's get back to making real music (preferably heavy on the guitar jams (personal favorite)) for real music lovers, throw in a vault song or two now and then and quit trying to cater to the masses.

wow, I think this album truly is the normal Prince vibe (putting out an album with a sound and vibe that seems a bit like a slap in the face and out of context of what you expect or want), but grows on you after a while, and ten years down the road is likely to be quite enjoyable), whilst things like c-note, NEWS, x-pectation are bit more common sounds catering to conservative musicians (for the most part).

So are you saying, it'll take until 2020 to develop an appreciation to 20Ten?

I'm playing the album and upon entering my bathroom, both my parents were grooving to "Act of God". Hahahaha that goes back to my initial thoughts on the track: you can play this at a juke joint.

Note: my parents don't go to clubs anymore but they would play something like this in the car if Prince had similar tracks on it lol they like Prince too (my parents are partially the reason I got turned on to Prince in the first damn place lol)

ufoclub said:

wow, I think this album truly is the normal Prince vibe (putting out an album with a sound and vibe that seems a bit like a slap in the face and out of context of what you expect or want), but grows on you after a while, and ten years down the road is likely to be quite enjoyable), whilst things like c-note, NEWS, x-pectation are bit more common sounds catering to conservative musicians (for the most part).

No offense but if you are listening to this 10 years from now and it's not just collecting dust in a cabinet or permanently stuck, due to heat and age, in a CD wallet, then you may be eligible to become Prince's ultimate fan! There is nothing on this album that will stand the test of time other than the material it is made of. You'll have to be sure to let us know in 2020 how you feel about 20ten.

PEACE!

Not bad, but it sounds an awful lot like he's repeating himself on this one.

The synths sometimes feel like a cheap attempt to recapture what his music used to sound like. The music still sounds like New Prince, only blanketed in a thin layer of Old Prince.

I still think the song $ off of lotusflow3r is as of yet his strongest attempt at recapturing his old sound without sounding like he was trying too hard to do so. Would love an album with the energy of that one.

It's a fun enough album and nothing really stinks (Walk in Sand is a skipper but it's still rather inoffensive), but I can't say I agree with the "best album since the 80's" claims getting tossed around, especially since those statements are probably coming from people who don't even know shit like The Gold Experience exists.

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he's given the hardcore what they / I wanted i.e. the classic sound of the 80's with an update. What is most pleasing though is that there is some energy, originality, fun and pride back in there. I still think LF single disc is a killer but this totally rocks.

Just bear in mind that there is no one else in R&B out there right now that will do a disc like this anytime soon, so lets celebrate his uniqueness.

Genesia said:

squirrelgrease said:

I have to give this bitch a bunch of listens (from a CD on a good stereo) before casting judgement on the album as a whole. But right now, I'm quite excited about the good outweighing the bad by such a large margin.

Maybe I posted this in the wrong thread...

Oh, and when this goes on my iPod, Hot Summer will be part of the album. Suck on that.

It belongs there.

Where you gonna put it?

Purple & Gold must die! But I could see including Cause & Affect (which I loved) and Hot Summer (even though I don't like it) in my eventual MP3 version of this album. Hot Summer might actually make more sense as part of the album. Because it felt like a throw away by itself (to me). Of course, if I'm going to be a completist about it I'd have to re-download Everybody Loves Me, which I've already deleted and have no desire to ever listen to again.

alexnvrmind said:

ufoclub said:

wow, I think this album truly is the normal Prince vibe (putting out an album with a sound and vibe that seems a bit like a slap in the face and out of context of what you expect or want), but grows on you after a while, and ten years down the road is likely to be quite enjoyable), whilst things like c-note, NEWS, x-pectation are bit more common sounds catering to conservative musicians (for the most part).

No offense but if you are listening to this 10 years from now and it's not just collecting dust in a cabinet or permanently stuck, due to heat and age, in a CD wallet, then you may be eligible to become Prince's ultimate fan! There is nothing on this album that will stand the test of time other than the material it is made of. You'll have to be sure to let us know in 2020 how you feel about 20ten.

PEACE!

I can let you know that Lovesexy seemed like a few interesting moments but a bunch of spastic, cheesy shit when it came out, and the U.S. sales reflected that. Ten years down the line it seems much cooler, rewind, Sign O' the Times seems a bit dead and shitty for the most part as well outside of the title track and Housequake, but ten years later I felt a lot more substance from other tracks. I've always felt that way about every Prince album except for "Black Album" which was great on first listen.

Glad I didn't help to destroy a tree by buying this crap.

I hate it because I love it? I guess I'm not smart enough to know which thread to post in. I'm sure Bart Van Halen will correct me should I dare to make a mistake for fuck's sake. Then again, I'm sure Mr Van Halen will be spending hours of time working on a thesis debunking how much he hates 20Ten, and how Prince hasn't made one single great track since whatever from 1984. Anyway, I'm getting off topic. So far, I kinda dig Compassion, Lavaux, and Future Baby Mama...whoops...I mean Future Love Song...or is it Future R&B Song? Damn Up Already! Shut! This post really sucks. I'd use being drunk as an excuse, but I don't drink.

Everybody Loves Me? Sounds like some kinda Barney Kids show theme with a few cool sounds.(I'm waiting for the NPG Operator to proclaim: Welcome 2 The Dawn, You are now a Member of the New Power Generation...your Membership Card and NPG Lunchbox will arrive in the mail soon...)

I like how he has the Linn Drum all over this album. Sure, Lavaux kinda sounds like some Pointer Sisters song...but it also reminds me of Wonderful Ass. The intro of Compassion is just great. The best thing about this album may ironically be the worst....it is sparse and simple, and not over produced. It probably could've been given a few extras...but it is what it is.

Guitar? Well...this is the wrong album for that. In the past, he gives us Chaos And Disorder, and Lotus Flow3r. And half the fans never played those more than once, and claim to hate what they have only heard. Yes, there is a difference between HEARING music and LISTENING to it. U2 have a great album called "Pop," which many die hards hate, but have probably never listened to it, upset that it is not the Joshua Tree part 33.

Overall, I'm not really feeling 20TEN, but first impression is not always the end all for me. I'd put it a bit above MPLS Sound, but nowhere near Lotus Flow3r. There are some cringe worthy moments. (I call these Tony M's) When he calls himself the "Purple Yoda," in "Bonus Track," I think a lot of people are going to laugh at how dumb it sounds, or joke about how he is only a little taller than the Green Yoda in the Star Wars movies. Not sure, but Beginning Endlessly and Walk in the Dirt are probably my favorites so far. Good thing Purple & Gold is not on here.

Sarcastic Gripe: Having an untitled Hidden Track at the end of the CD is GROUNDBREAKING. Wow! Great Idea Prince!! Nobody would ever have thought of that!!!! (Nirvana, They Might Be Giants, The Fixx, U2, Some song by some Purple Yoda called "Wasted Kisses,")

The bottom line: Quick name 15 or more musicians that have made tons of great music after the age of 50? As much as I love the Eagles....Busy Being Fabulous is about one of maybe 3 really good songs on their last release. Nearly everyone else that age are simply doing Remake/Cover albums. Prince may be a little contrived lately, but I'll take a washed up Prince over ANYTHING...so go get your copy of 20TEN...no masterpiece, but bettr than nearly everything else out there. Example: I'm a huge fan of cheesy pop music...20TEN totally kicks Bon Jovi's lame The Circle CD....and it may grow on me a little more.

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Mars23 said:

Well, why do you hate it?

The internet is dead...and after listening to this so is Prince's recording career..thank God he gave it away as I can't see anyone buying this load of old rubbish.

Errm... having listened to it twice this morning (at work, so a bit of background noise), it sounds to me like a cask of cast off from his recent spate of below par dirge. Yes, a lot of it sounds like his early to mid 80s stuff. That's because he knows that was his best work and he can't re-produce a more modern sounding alternative. He's even singing his new lyrics over his old classics (Berlin: Forever In my Life/Act Of God - Arras whatever it was/Hot Summer)

The Daily Mirror reviewer who said best since Sign O' The Times obviously got confused by the whole name change 90's and doesn't know Prince has released albums since 1987!

Giving it away in a newspaper (is that what the Mirror is?) screams "it won't sell, help me out fellas".

"Prince. On stage. Perfectly free. On record..." Slave? No, not just so good anymore.

Sorry

stillwaiting said:

I'm waiting for the NPG Operator to proclaim: Welcome 2 The Dawn, You are now a Member of the New Power Generation...your Membership Card and NPG Lunchbox will arrive in the mail soon...

stillwaiting is a very appropriate username

your Lotusflower T-shirt will follow in due course

so i did the individual track thing...but having listened more as a whole at this point it's got a few brief exciting moments ...but overall not much of an effort. I think it is fair to say lazy has taken control of a really great talent. Skills do not alone make a great record. Please go get some sun and fun, maybe read a few good books (non JW), hang with some (real) friends, play in a garage or two... then come back with something to say. PLEASE?

alexnvrmind said:

ufoclub said:

wow, I think this album truly is the normal Prince vibe (putting out an album with a sound and vibe that seems a bit like a slap in the face and out of context of what you expect or want), but grows on you after a while, and ten years down the road is likely to be quite enjoyable), whilst things like c-note, NEWS, x-pectation are bit more common sounds catering to conservative musicians (for the most part).

No offense but if you are listening to this 10 years from now and it's not just collecting dust in a cabinet or permanently stuck, due to heat and age, in a CD wallet, then you may be eligible to become Prince's ultimate fan! There is nothing on this album that will stand the test of time other than the material it is made of. You'll have to be sure to let us know in 2020 how you feel about 20ten.

PEACE!

NO! JUST NO! You can not compare this disaster to those 3 albums! Period! Even Lovesexy, which admittedly for me, at the age of 19, was a 'WTH moment' when I first heard the whole album, is pure genius.

PEACE!

alexnvrmind said:

alexnvrmind said:

No offense but if you are listening to this 10 years from now and it's not just collecting dust in a cabinet or permanently stuck, due to heat and age, in a CD wallet, then you may be eligible to become Prince's ultimate fan! There is nothing on this album that will stand the test of time other than the material it is made of. You'll have to be sure to let us know in 2020 how you feel about 20ten.

PEACE!

NO! JUST NO! You can not compare this disaster to those 3 albums! Period! Even Lovesexy, which admittedly for me, at the age of 19, was a 'WTH moment' when I first heard the whole album, is pure genius.

PEACE!

Upon first listen I usually only like 2-3 songs max on any given Prince album. Except for The Black Album. I'm just telling the truth about my experience listening to Prince. Probably the least listend to albums for me are the earliest ones (like For you and Prince and Dirty Mind) and then the instrumental ones from the 2000's. I also probably have listened to almost every bootleg track or compilation that has ever circulated, and do listen more to bootlegs then official albums.

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

ufoclub said:

wow, I think this album truly is the normal Prince vibe (putting out an album with a sound and vibe that seems a bit like a slap in the face and out of context of what you expect or want), but grows on you after a while, and ten years down the road is likely to be quite enjoyable), whilst things like c-note, NEWS, x-pectation are bit more common sounds catering to conservative musicians (for the most part).

So are you saying, it'll take until 2020 to develop an appreciation to 20Ten?

It took until 2001 for me to appreciate the entire SOTT album. Even "It" which back in 1987, I thought was the weakest shit.

This user has a great point. Where the hell did that music go? It ISN'T on the album and that upsets me! I was looking forward to it... That one snippet sounds better than anything on the CD! (And I say that being satisfied with it for the most part.)

ufoclub said:

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

So are you saying, it'll take until 2020 to develop an appreciation to 20Ten?

It took until 2001 for me to appreciate the entire SOTT album. Even "It" which back in 1987, I thought was the weakest shit.

You took 14 years to see SOTT for what it was? Wow. But I guess people hear things differently...

Timmy84 said:

ufoclub said:

It took until 2001 for me to appreciate the entire SOTT album. Even "It" which back in 1987, I thought was the weakest shit.

You took 14 years to see SOTT for what it was? Wow. But I guess people hear things differently...

Yep, I can go back and completely know why I felt certain tracks were poor on SOTT at the time of its release. It seemed a bit dead on energy on many tracks, lazy on arrangement, and boring on creative choice (like Slow Love).

So far I have listened to the first two tracks of this new album closely and they seem pretty good and strong (both conceptually and arrangementwise). He seems very disciplined here with a good set of rules for this album.

sometimes his rules destroy stuff like the toy/childlike keyboard sounds all over Graffiti Bridge tracks. Yuck. Yet that idea really works when used with discipline like in the studio version (or live versions) of Days of Wild.

Genesia said:

squirrelgrease said:

I have to give this bitch a bunch of listens (from a CD on a good stereo) before casting judgement on the album as a whole. But right now, I'm quite excited about the good outweighing the bad by such a large margin.

Maybe I posted this in the wrong thread...

Oh, and when this goes on my iPod, Hot Summer will be part of the album. Suck on that.

It belongs there.

Where you gonna put it?

I might lead off the set with it. Or replace Everybody Loves Me

squirrelgrease said:

Genesia said:

It belongs there.

Where you gonna put it?

I might lead off the set with it. Or replace Everybody Loves Me

i was thinking of putting it after Everybody Loves Me to bring some class back but my dilema is now where to put Purple And Gold, Cause and Effect just doesn't fit on it at all.

It is one of his better albums since about 1997 but it's weak if you judge it against what came before that. I like it a lot better than TRC or Planet Earth or Musicology but I liked 3121 better....I usually only hope for one good song a new Prince album these days...this one has a few that are fun to listen to that is more than enough.

I always have great expectations with Prince's new material so I listen with an open mind. He missed again. sounds like the last 3 albums. maybe 2 listenable songs and the rest not good.

What a huge load of shit this CD is.

This is embarrassingly bad.

3121 is a masterpiece, I would put it on par with The Gold Experience. But starting with Planet Earth Prince has fallen into this trap of using these ridiculously cheap sounding synths. Nothing on this album sounds like the 80's MPLS Sound (with the exception of Lavaux, which is only good in comparison to the rest of the dookie on this album). Just using synths and something that sounds like a Lyn1 doesn't make it the Minn Sound.

From the first Cheesy cord you just know this is going to be a whole album full of crap on par with Hot Summer or Cause and effect. The fact that ANYBODY is saying that this album is anything but pure shit just goes to show how much the people on this site are out of touch with musical reality. Lotus/MPLSound were just god damned terrible (Fuck LotusFlow3r with it's shitty overrated Guitar Playing! Prince's generic Santana [santana is over-rated to begin with anyway] knock off crap made me sick. Album is terrible in every respect. 4/10 would be generous for that shit show) but 20ten is on a whole new level of bad.

This stuff is Un-listenable. And I don't want to hear any of this "how many other 50yr olds do you know who have an impact" blah blah blah FUCK THAT!!!! Lenny Kravitz is another legend who's in creative decline, but he only releases an album every 4 or 5 years and it's actually pretty good.

I put "Everybody Loves Me" on in the car to show my friends how bad the new prince cd was, and they wouldn't believe me that it was actually Prince. It sounded too childish and cartoon like. They were all convinced I was playing something from sesame street or something.

The songs on this stinker all sound the same (with the exceptions of Lavaux) I literally can't tell you anything specific about any of the songs because they're all so similar and lack anything interesting. The Lyrics are terrible and the same unfocused religious/political crud he's been serving up since 3121. Also, Prince seems to have forgotten he's a singer, and his spoken word pseudo rapping on more than half of this CD is not pleasing to the ear. Don't get me wrong, Prince's double speed rap on Incense and Candles was perfectly placed and executed, but this stuff gives me a headache.

The only reason this CD isn't a 0/10 is because on Lavaux. To be totally honest with everyone, we all know that the MPLSound cd sounded NOTHING like the actual MPLS sound. Lavaux actually sounds like it could have been recorded in 83 (except he sings with his same almost spoken word lyrics and it ruins what could have been a bumping song). This comes musically as close as Prince ever has to recapturing the magic on songs like Turn it Up, Nasty Girls, or Modernare.

Even with Lavaux I'm going to give 20ten a 1/10. If you played this for someone who had never heard Prince Before, they'd think he was a fucking Joke. Remember how Chaos and disorder was a cast off album that was a big fuck you to Warners? Chaos being intentionally mediocre is about ten times better than this and I NEVER thought I would see the day when that happened.

Prince's Music is Like frog soup. If you throw a frog in a pot of boiling water it'll jump right out, but if you put it in cold water and slowly turn up the heat the frog won't notice the temperature change and will boil to death. PE had some goofy songs on it that you chalk up to Prince alway experimenting. LotusFailur3 was a three disc mess that is un listenable to the non Prince fan, but songs like Dreamer, Here, and Feel Better were near misses at good tracks that you could say "He almost had it, he's just in a transition year, and these tracks will be ok live" But this 20ten is the worst material He's ever produced. Hands down. The only reason we aren't rioting in the streets right now is because the last 2 albums were so bad and heading down this same shit path. If he had released this right after 3121 we would think Prince had developed a drug problem or something

This shit makes Rave look CLASSIC!!!

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Don't over-analyze it. It sucks, plain and simple. This man is releasing music just to maintain the prolific title.

I heard samples of the album, and didn't even bother to download it for free.

I live in the U.S. and though I heard snippets of his latest stuff, I didn't jump on it right off. I wish he had also released it in some of the U.S. cities but still in the interest of generating interest, he is putting the hype on it.

A response to "Wildboy" :

Wildboy said: This is embarrassingly bad. 3121 is a masterpiece, I would put it on par with The Gold Experience.

Really? Both are much better than 20TEN, but calling 3121 a masterpiece is a bit of a stretch. 20TEN has a few good moments, maybe more bad moments, but no turd...

Wildboy said: Fuck LotusFlow3r with it's shitty overrated Guitar Playing!

Huh??? I've written over 100 songs in the last 20 years, and consider myself a somewhat good judge of music, and his playing and writing on Lotus Flow3r is in my opinion, some of his best stuff since Lovesexy. MPLS Sound was weak, but still listenable. I'm sure the back of your Lotus Flow3r cd is clean with no scuff marks on it. Mine is full of scratches from playing it too much. The truth hurts, but Lovesexy and Sign O The Times did not sell well. In Fact, both of those albums combined did not likely reach the sales of Diamonds And Pears, which was the weakest of his "big hit" albums. In retrospect, if the entire world did not get SOTT and Lovesexy, it is possible some do not dig Lotus Flow3r, but it would seem to me, it is a case of just HEARING Lotus Flow3r, and not taking the time to LISTEN. Yes, there is a difference.

Wildboy said: Lenny Kravitz is another legend who's in creative decline

Lenny Legend? Nope. Kravitz has hardly ever written anything close to an original tune. I once had the pleasure of having a music expert give examples of just how "original," Lenny is. Prince borrows heavily from many, but usually makes it work without being theft. Lenny even took "Wherever You Go," from Rave, and called it "Again." Don't get me wrong, I enjoy some Lenny, but go listen to a lot of 60's and 70's music and decide for yourself if he's paying tribute or just plain stealing ideas. There is a difference.

Wildboy said: The only reason this CD isn't a 0/10 is because on Lavaux.

Watch the mistakes "Because on Lavaux," You could become a target of Bart Van Halen. (Who will be busy spending hours working on his own posts about how much he dislikes Prince's music.) 20Ten is no great cd, but 1/10??? Beginning Endlessly is ok enough to give it 5 or 6/10.

Wildboy said: Prince's Music is Like frog soup. If you throw a frog in a pot of boiling water it'll jump right out, but if you put it in cold water and slowly turn up the heat the frog won't notice the temperature change and will boil to death.

Well, let's say I'm glad I was never in Biology class with you. In conclusion, I am still taking in the songs of 20TEN, and yes, I am not all that impressed, but calling it crap is just not that realistic for me. Nothing personal Wildboy, but you attacked Lotus Flow3r, and I had to defend it. As far as 20TEN goes, like most of his recent material, the lyrics seem to be lacking in spirit, and do not move me...so I agree with you to a point about that. If Boom, Colonized Mind, Love Like Jazz, and Dreamer stink in your ears, than I just think you might have a thing against guitar driven songs. (Or fun light-hearted ones like Love Like Jazz)

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Wildboy said:

What a huge load of shit this CD is.

This is embarrassingly bad.

3121 is a masterpiece, I would put it on par with The Gold Experience. But starting with Planet Earth Prince has fallen into this trap of using these ridiculously cheap sounding synths. Nothing on this album sounds like the 80's MPLS Sound (with the exception of Lavaux, which is only good in comparison to the rest of the dookie on this album). Just using synths and something that sounds like a Lyn1 doesn't make it the Minn Sound.

From the first Cheesy cord you just know this is going to be a whole album full of crap on par with Hot Summer or Cause and effect. The fact that ANYBODY is saying that this album is anything but pure shit just goes to show how much the people on this site are out of touch with musical reality. Lotus/MPLSound were just god damned terrible (Fuck LotusFlow3r with it's shitty overrated Guitar Playing! Prince's generic Santana [santana is over-rated to begin with anyway] knock off crap made me sick. Album is terrible in every respect. 4/10 would be generous for that shit show) but 20ten is on a whole new level of bad.

This stuff is Un-listenable. And I don't want to hear any of this "how many other 50yr olds do you know who have an impact" blah blah blah FUCK THAT!!!! Lenny Kravitz is another legend who's in creative decline, but he only releases an album every 4 or 5 years and it's actually pretty good.

I put "Everybody Loves Me" on in the car to show my friends how bad the new prince cd was, and they wouldn't believe me that it was actually Prince. It sounded too childish and cartoon like. They were all convinced I was playing something from sesame street or something.

The songs on this stinker all sound the same (with the exceptions of Lavaux) I literally can't tell you anything specific about any of the songs because they're all so similar and lack anything interesting. The Lyrics are terrible and the same unfocused religious/political crud he's been serving up since 3121. Also, Prince seems to have forgotten he's a singer, and his spoken word pseudo rapping on more than half of this CD is not pleasing to the ear. Don't get me wrong, Prince's double speed rap on Incense and Candles was perfectly placed and executed, but this stuff gives me a headache.

The only reason this CD isn't a 0/10 is because on Lavaux. To be totally honest with everyone, we all know that the MPLSound cd sounded NOTHING like the actual MPLS sound. Lavaux actually sounds like it could have been recorded in 83 (except he sings with his same almost spoken word lyrics and it ruins what could have been a bumping song). This comes musically as close as Prince ever has to recapturing the magic on songs like Turn it Up, Nasty Girls, or Modernare.

Even with Lavaux I'm going to give 20ten a 1/10. If you played this for someone who had never heard Prince Before, they'd think he was a fucking Joke. Remember how Chaos and disorder was a cast off album that was a big fuck you to Warners? Chaos being intentionally mediocre is about ten times better than this and I NEVER thought I would see the day when that happened.

Prince's Music is Like frog soup. If you throw a frog in a pot of boiling water it'll jump right out, but if you put it in cold water and slowly turn up the heat the frog won't notice the temperature change and will boil to death. PE had some goofy songs on it that you chalk up to Prince alway experimenting. LotusFailur3 was a three disc mess that is un listenable to the non Prince fan, but songs like Dreamer, Here, and Feel Better were near misses at good tracks that you could say "He almost had it, he's just in a transition year, and these tracks will be ok live" But this 20ten is the worst material He's ever produced. Hands down. The only reason we aren't rioting in the streets right now is because the last 2 albums were so bad and heading down this same shit path. If he had released this right after 3121 we would think Prince had developed a drug problem or something

This shit makes Rave look CLASSIC!!!

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Your thread just proves to me how subjective music can be, because to my ears, 3121 is the worst album Prince has ever made, without any redeeming qualities. You actually praised Incense & Candles? Are you serious?? That song is probably an all time low in his career.

I think 20Ten is a mixed bag, but I would take songs like Future Soul Song, Lavaux and Compassion over anything on 3121.