yup! this glee thing is a strange phenomenom & they know ALL the words to all that old shit, boring classics! | |
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funky geriatrix! | |
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Right, that's it. That's what I want Prince's next album to be called! blah blah blah | |
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Still waiting for the U.S. release date and in the meantime obtained a test copy shall we say , haven't absorbed the songs totally yet...
Definitely agree that Prince is still on autopilot...nothing groundbreaking like his old stuff. The funk sounds better than MPLSSound in my opinion, less cheesy, I'd agree this album flows better with the song arrangements and not a mish mash of songs previously done in different genres that he's selected to create a diverse album like he did with the past few albums up to Musicology. So this was a nice change, plus some of the tracks sound -- as far as instruments used -- the same which is a surprise. I did cringe however on the first track Compassion, with the electric guitar, that Mesa Boogie punchy sound has been overused. He let it go in LotusFlow3r, so sounds like this track was from 3121? Anyway new sounds/tones are always welcome.
My biggest complaint of Prince's material over the past few years, especially on Planet Earth, MPLSsound, and some LotusFlow3r... is not letting the tracks breathe. What I'm saying is, HIS TRACKS CAN BE WAY TOO VOCAL HEAVY in my opinion. The extensive vocals are weighing down the songs. Just let the music/rhythm/melody play. Prince, if you have that much to say, (and it is long overdue), you should seriously write a book. And Prince's writing skills are superb, as were seen by his blogs on the old NPG music site around 2000.
The album artwork looks great and is inspiring. I'll be purchasing this album for it's fun funky threads, it's mediocre at times, but sounds like Prince is conjuring up more inspiration based music rather than manufacturing a desired perceived "hit". Hard to say because he's probably working on 3 albums of stuff right now, and make another Bria album! | |
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LOL I was thinking the SAME THING! (Btw, I just now heard the whole album start to finish for the first time. Prob the last one on the Org.) I wish u heaven | |
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"I" before "E" except after "C" or in "Neighbor" and "Weigh" when it sounds like "A".
Numbnuts. I wish u heaven | |
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Lol. yeah i brought her one night to the o2 she was like wow at the main show, i was like well u aint seen nothing yet, took her to the Indigo, she was moaning and whinging about the waiting around i was saying be patient just wait it will be worth it...when he finally came on stage and started playing she was absolutely blown away by him! going omg he brilliant wow wow etc etc. but saying that shes showed no interest in him since PE i will be afraid to give that to anyone but i think ur right 20ten is more likable on first listen and its more 80s sounding, it will probably be more digestable than lotus. FUNKNROLL! "February 2014, wow". 'dre. | |
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Hmmm. I don't think so.
The amount of over estimation of Prince's 80's work on this site never ceases to amaze.
Let's just hope that Prince recorded himself taking a piss back in '88. No doubt it's an avant garde cutting edge masterpiece. | |
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I love the new CD! Beginning Endlessly, and Laydown are the BEST tracks on the entire CD! There is a LOT of Santigold singing style riffing going on lately (Christina Aguilera does it on her new CD) and here's Prince, totally doing a Santigold with Laydown. Santigold fans will totally hear it! But it matters not, because the song just ROCKS! This is some total old school style sounds going on here!
Compassion is alright (but I usually want to skip it for some reason), Future Soul Song is a nice ballad, Sticky Like Glue and Lavaux are great fun songs with some crazy 70's sounds going on; Act of God is great, Walk In Sand and Sea of Everything are fine songs, but just ballad filler taking up space on the CD. Prince can do some amazing ballads, but most of the time he just does fluff filler instead. Half of Lotusflow3r was fluff filler ballads. Bored the heck out of me. Everybody Loves Me is so much fun! A total old school b-side/1999 CD style song!
Most people seem to dislike 3121 (or don't give it high marks, at least.) Personally that's my favorite CD of his in the past what, five, six releases. Musicology (personally) bores the crap out of me. In fact, I can't even listen to that CD. Planet Earth caught on after a while, but it's another CD of his with way too many fluff ballads, and Lotusflow3r was an extremely mixed bag. In fact, for a while there I was more impressed with Bria's CD, then either of Princes. 20ten seems to (for me) pick right back up from 3121 and bring the fun, for the most part! Catchy tunes!
I think when it comes to Prince, you gotta judge him from Vintage Prince (up to what? I'd say Gold Experience?) and then you have New Prince (LOL) from about Emancipation on. I don't think Prince will ever be able to achieve anything like he did in his early years, so most of his new works should be judged against those, and not say, Purple Rain, for example.
20ten isn't going to win any awards, but I think it's a fun CD!
I also laugh at everyone's bi-polar love/hate for Lovesexy on here (It's been mentioned quite a few times in this thread.) Personally, Lovesexy is what sealed the deal for me as a lifetime Prince fan. In fact, it might just be my most loved Prince CD! And I couldn't even tell you why! Alphabet Street is STILL the JAM! I just don't think there is one bad song on Lovesexy! But each to their own, we all have our personal tastes! And what's great is Prince gives us a little bit of EVERYTHING! | |
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ITS NEIGHBOUR YOU FUCKING TWAT AND I DONT CARE WHERE YOU COME FROM | |
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Woah. Calm down. | |
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Funny!
I should send a copy of 20ten to every senior citizen's home. Prince, in you I found a kindred spirit...Rest In Paradise. | |
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nah... | |
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After listening to this album A LOT... I'm amazed @ how much different it sounds from his last album but it still sounds like Prince. Its definitely reminiscent of Mplsound & his 80's heyday but w/ a very modern flavor to it. Even the super-pop Everybody Loves Me is super-fun, & the lovely nasty guitar on the hidden gem is rocking... its almost like he mixed LF & Mpls & shortened it. I still yearn for longer guitar solos but what's on the record has incredible sound.. Even the sleeper ballads Sea of Everything & Walk In Sand appeal to me.
I admit @ the beginning of the opening track I was a little worried I wasn't going to like it but Wow, did the song & the rest of the album improve & surprise me. I was also a bit turned off by Lavaux @ 1st b/c the synths were almost too overwhelming for me & too catchy/cheesy? But I found myself playing it back in my head later & wanting to hear it again & again! Go figure!
Overall, I'm loving it. My main complaint is that it hasn't been released in the states, but I'm very much looking forward to buying the actual physical album. If he releases a DVD of this tour from overseas, how sweet would that be... Speaking of the tour there are some seriously mixed reviews from orgers over here. Its very confusing. People who hate the tour really shit on it & the people who love it defend how great the show was...Just like all his freaking abums.. its amazing to me how divided the fans here are.
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AllMusic.com posted a new review of 20TEN (not too amused by it).
1/2
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I really agree with this review. They don't say it's bad, and I don't either, it just doesn't have any real surprises, and surprises were a regular part of old Prince albums, not just drum machines. My Legacy
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This is the most spot-on review I've read so far, IMO. While I don't think the album is poor by any means, after having this music for two weeks, there's really nothing left to discover, and so it doesn't lend itself to repeated listenings for the most part, at least for me. | |||
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i really enjoyed the album, but it's true i only listened to it once and wasnt immediately moved to listen to it again, except for sticky like glue.
i've since revisited other individual tracks, but only because they are being discussed on these boards.
in all honesty, i agree with the above review, but i still think 20TEN is a superior album to most other albums by other artists in 2010.
one of the things i enjoyed the most about this album, is how Prince wasnt showing off. he's on auto-pilot delivering simple unadulterated funk-pop.
sometimes its nice to hear music that doesnt make you work too hard as a listener.
he puts each song right in your lap, like the lover who takes it for granted that ur gonna be together forever. no questions asked.
whilst that is presumptuous of him, especially lyrically, it's one of Prince's attitude trademarks.
a self-absorbed, self-motivated, self-comforting record, in every way, so perhaps it's fitting it was packaged with a newspaper lol this too shall pass | |||
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Yeah I kinda agree with some of the points in this review. I mean, there's nothing quite relevatory or truly stunning on this album, but it does sound more authentic and layered than MPLSound was and the songs are definitely listenable and groove-based. In contrast, this is something Prince could've done in his sleep or with his eyes closed shut. It's kinda on the caliber of what Planet Earth offered, but a couple of steps higher. Check me out and add me on:
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http://minnesota.publicradio.org/collections/special/columns/music_blog/archive/2010/07/a_review_of_pri.shtml
a link to the current's review of the album Love God. Love Music. Love Life. | |
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http://www.michigandaily.com/content/20ten-album-prince-gives-it-away
Here's my long overdue review. | |
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Great review. I agree with most of it except I dont think I want a return of a "dirty" Prince at this point in his life. I think he is doing the right thing by slowly easing away from that aspect of himself. It would honestly be creepy at this stage in his life and moving forward.
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Me, you, spelling B. Any time you're ready, pal.
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Prince can never satisfy every one, especially "journalists." I do not agree with every thing in the linked article either.
Prince's music or songs need to be studied, one by one, as many of us have known for years now. With that being said, my pov is the 20ten is a gem.
It's Prince being himself, enjoying himself. Where as the linked writer is condenscending towards the majority of the tracks, I find them to fresh and fun...
...Prince sticking to themes that concern him now; a meaningful and loving relationship, peace as opposed Afghanistan..., and yes, love. | |
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20Ten Review (late because I'm in the US--anyone who still gives a shit, read on...)
Compassion: Hardcore fans (like myself) gushed about how great the song "No More Candy 4 U" was from last years MPLSound. Prince must be monitoring our comments to some degree because the lead track to this years' 20Ten is "No More Candy"'s sister. And that, my purple friends, is a good thing.
Beginning Endlessly: Prince boasts of his virility over his precious LINN-1 drum machine and a catchy synth riff. If Big Radio still gave him the time of day, this song may have sold some ad space. (That's a compliment to the tune.)
Future Soul Song: "God", "Lovesexy", "The Rainbow Children", songs about Prince and his lifelong quest and relationship with the creator. Whether or not you believe in what Prince believes, the track for me is the essence of the entire album: completely fearless. "In the absence of fear and control is the sound of the surrendering soul" is a lyric from this lovely track. At first listen this may sound like a tired ballad, but if you listen you just may hear the voice of a man free to explore his genius.
Sticky Like Glue: This could have been a track on Parade. It is simple like "Do U Lie", funky like "Anotherloverholeinyourhead", and catchy like "Kiss". Ah, Prince, why did you piss off Big Radio. This is a hit.
Act of God: "Sign of the Times" part 13. This is Prince being socially aware. The beat rolls on, drives like the news he is reporting in this track: bankers foreclosing on families, war, government taxing its people to the grave. Sad that the world still has plenty of bad news for Prince to admonish 20+ years after "Sign of the Times".
Lavaux: Did The Pointer Sisters get royalties for Prince jacking the intro to their hit "Automatic"? Because they should. It is eerily dead on. As the tracks continues, we discover it's breeziness and forgive him. (download this: Pointer Sisters "Automatic" if you want to have a "woah" moment.)
Walk In Sand: Another ballad, but don't think you are getting "On The Couch", "One Kiss At A Time", "When 2 R In Love" et al. Instead of Prince contemplating the speed of ones hips in the act of mating or where his lips will go on his woman's body, he concentrates on the simplicity of literally walking in sand, holding hands, sharing tidbits with her like, "You can't please everybody, but such is life." Sure he isn't talking about "F'ing the taste" out of her mouth ala "Let's Pretend We're Married" but the man is over 50. Let him chill.
Sea of Everything: This conforms more to the soulful ballads that he seems to throw off at will for every record. I could list them here, but it is not necessary. This may be the first Prince slow jam that compliments his muse's writing style. For that reason alone, this track is worth a listen. But maybe only one.
Everybody Loves Me: And now we are brought back full circle to the fun, playful, Controversy-era-esque-ness of "Everybody Loves Me". In fact, the track is a bit reminiscent of the closing song from the Controversy record, "Jack U Off" (Prince wasn't known for his subtlety back in '81). This song is just what this record needs, an "eff-you I'll play what I want" moment to bring us home. Unfortunately this is not the last song...
Laydown: Prince. Rap/Hip Hop and you never really meshed. Stop. Trying. To. Sound. Gangsta. He should have stopped at 9 tracks. He may as well have put "We Gets Up" or "Ol Skool Company" here. I used to believe that these hip hop ventures were inserted in his post 80's albums as a result of a nagging marketing exec saying, "This is what the kids want!" And Prince would sigh and lay some tired hip hop track down and hire a rapper to boast about how great he is. Now I guess we know the truth. Free from the desires of record companies, it's really Prince trying to do God knows what. Sound hip? Remind us of his urban-ness? This could have been a near perfect record without this track. If he is too mature for cussing and singing about fucking, then why is he not too mature to feel like he has to boast about his musical prowess? Prince, you're genius is self-evident. You don't need to remind us. You're better than that.
"Laydown" aside, this is a great record. I can't do it justice with words, I am liking it more and more with each listen: the same effect I used to get when I would hear vintage Prince (See: Parade, Dirty Mind). The last few albums kind of made me feel like the nice uncle who compliments his nephew or niece on their kareoke (sp?) when everyone knows it's terrible. There is just something fearless and breezy about this set that makes me feel like the last few years (and yes there were some good moments) was just him seeing who would stick around for the good shit to come. Well, here we are. Welcome back, Prince.
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Good review. I agree with most of it especially about it being a big improvemnet on the last few albums. | |
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I didn't say this in my review but I think this warrants consideration. I ripped Laydown a new one and I must be fair. It isn't the fact that Prince is rapping that makes it a bad song. It's the fact that he is boasting about something nobody has ever doubted: his musical genius. His rapping in Sticky Like Glue is fantastic becase it helps tell the story. 20Ten: 5 stars Best album since Lovesexy I wish u heaven | |
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from www.spiegel.de
Prince - "20Ten"
"Compassion" heißt der erste Song auf dem 27. Album, und Mitleid ist ungefähr auch das, was man empfindet, wenn die Dreiviertelstunde von "20Ten" vorbei ist. Prince, einst als lüsternes, glamouröses Pendant zu Michael Jackson gefeiert, ein musikalisches Allround-Genie mit schier unerschöpflichem Output, hat es wohl neuerdings nötig, sich seinem mit ihm älter gewordenen Stammklientel mit einem matten Abklatsch seines aus Rock, Pop und Funk gespeistem Erfolgssound der Achtziger anzubiedern. Wohl nicht umsonst dominieren auf der aktuellen Tournee des Amerikaners die alten Hits. Es scheint, als befinde sich Prince in einer Phase der Regression, wünscht sich zurück in Zeiten, als er mit "Purple Rain", "Lovesexy" und "Around The World In A Day" als King of Pop der coolen Leute gefeiert wurde. Passt alles zusammen: In den Achtzigern gab es noch kein Internet und keine Smartphones, alles Dinge, die zur Verdummung der Menschen beitrügen, zürnte er kürzlich in einem Interview. Das neue Album, bis auf ein paar Background-Gesänge und Bläser komplett im Alleingang eingespielt, gibt es in Europa daher nur als Beileger zu einigen Zeitungen und Zeitschriften. In seiner Heimat darf Warner Bros. den Vertrieb übernehmen. Aber warum? Weil dort weniger Print-Publikationen gelesen werden? Alle im Internet? Damn! Klar, auch auf "20Ten" ist nicht alles öde: "Beginning Endlessly" verfügt ebenso wie "Lavaux" über jene Killer-Riffs und -Licks, die Prince zu einer Funk-Ikone gemacht haben. Balladen wie "Future Soul Song" bleiben jedoch weit hinter seinem Können zurück; im Sesamstraßen-Refrain von "Everybody Loves Me" wird die Prince-Show gar endgültig zur Farce. Schade eigentlich, denn der Mann aus Minneapolis war ja schon mal weiter, begab sich mit "Rainbow Children" und "Musicology" mutig aufs Jazz-Terrain. Und selbst die 2009 in Eigenregie übers - ha! - Internet verbreiteten Alben "LotusFlow3r" und "MPLSound" mit ihren ausufernden Jimi-Hendrix-Meditationen waren zwar retro, aber dennoch eine Weiterentwicklung. "20Ten" wirkt nun endgültig wie ein hastig aus dem umfangreichen B-Seiten-Archiv zusammengestellter Flohmarkt: Man findet ein paar Sachen, die man früher mal mochte, wird kurz nostalgisch, überlegt ein bisschen. Und dann lässt man ihn doch lieber liegen. Den alten Kram. (5) Andreas Borcholte | |
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Hi !
After have listened to it a few time, WOW! It's the best he's done in in many, many years! I haven' been this exited about a Prince ablum since Sign O The Times but this is beter than that!
It's the follow up that would have been perfect after Purple Rain. Sounds a bit like a combo of 1999 and withl lyrics reminisenct of Around The World In A Dy.
Please, plese release it in the US on a major label, can't get many of the songs out of my head! Fantastic album!
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I finally got around to review the album, here's my song by song review: Compassion: Upbeat track, reminds me of Play In The Sunshine and Let's Go Crazy, but also makes me think of the type of song that could be used in a musical. Doesn't have a great "cool"-factor, but after hearing it a few times I have to admit that I quite enjoy the chorus of the song. Rating: 7/10
Beginning Endlessly: I cannot decide if I really like this track or not. It sounds like a classic Prince track, but something seems to be wrong somehow. I think this is the track that he put the most time in production-wise on this album. Maybe for that reason it sounds a bit overproduced, for example the keyboard riff in the chorus sounds a bit too sterile/trancey to my ear. He could have used proper dirty Oberheim brass-sounds like in the old days. Also there seems to be some distortion in this track that catches my ear in an unpleasant way. For now i give it a rating of 7,5/10.
Future Soul Song: Sounded like another sugarcoated Prince ballad to me the first time I listened, but after spinning it a few times I must admit that it's definatley a quality Prince ballad, the best one on the album. Nothing new or spectacular, but a pleasant listen nevertheless. Nice and deep sub bass on this track. Loving the background vocals on this one. Rating: 7,5/10
Sticky Like Glue: If he had put some more attention to the sound of the drums (bit of reverb/flanger or other soundFX) this would have been a bonafide classic that would have fitted on an album like SOTT album for example. I really like this one, has a good vocal delivery and again nice background vocals. Very nice rhythm guitar on this one, funky as hell! Rating: 8,5/10
Act Of God: This one has the best drum programming on the album, the patterns are cool and the "sound" of the drums is on par with Prince's 80's shit as well. I really like this track, it's one of the better ones as far as the lyrics are concerned on this album. The beat makes me think of "Train" for some reason. Again great rhythm guitar... Rating: 8/10
Lavaux: Probably the highlight of the album for me, this takes me right back to the beginning of the 80's with the synth stabs and funky rhythms. This trackwould have fitted right on the "Dirty Mind"album. I don't even care that it sounds like Automatic (Pointer Sisters) and Rock Your Body (Michael Jackson), I can handle complete Prince albums of this type of tracks year after year. This is funky, well executed, and I love it. Well done Prince, keep 'em coming! Rating: 9/10.
Walk In Sand:
Inoffensive ballad, doesn't do much for me. Bit too sugary for my taste. Execution musically is not bad. Better than the gazillion ballads that he put on Emancipation, so it could have been much worse... Rating: 6/10
Sea Of Everything:
Inoffensive ballad, doesn't do much for me. Bit too sugary for my taste. Execution musically is not bad. Better than the gazillion ballads that he put on Emancipation, so it could have been much worse. This one could have done with more effects on the drums (a la "The Beautiful Ones" or "When Two Are In Love"). Rating: 6/10
Everybody Loves Me:
I don't understand all the hate for this track. To me this sounds like a track that would have fitted nicely somewhere on the "Controversy" album (instead of "Ronny Talk To Russia" for example), or could have been a B-side like "Horny Toad". Just a playful bit of 'jump up' music that is not meant to be taken very seriously, just a bit of good ol' fun! Love the sound of the guitar at the beginning of the track... Rating: 7/10
Laydown: Another track where I have difficulties determining if I like it or not. I like some of the elements (the beat, the guitarwork, slap bass), but I'm not too fond of Prince's rap and the woman that sings "You need to lay it down" all the time. Quite good but could have been better. Rating: 6,5/10.
Conclusion:
Prince reclaims his old styles from the first half of the eighties, although in most cases they sound more like B-sides/outtakes than like proper classics. But anyone knows that Prince's b-sides and outtakes of the 80's were better than most other artists' main tracks, and I say that still is the case today in 2010. This is no problem for me personally, as the first half of the eighties happens to be my favorite Prince era.
So after a few listening sessions I am certainly not dissatisfied with the album. My only gripes are the lyrics that are quite weak in most of the tracks, and the fact that the Linndrum sound is mixed out too "dry" and clean compared to the 80's heyday of Prince's Linndrum programming. He used more effects on the drums back then, and they sounded rawer and fatter for it.
20Ten doesn't cover any new ground (in fact it delves deep into retro-grounds) but at this stage of Prince's career that doesn't matter so much to me anymore. I'd rather have a yearly set of this type of funky retro Minneapolis Sound-style tracks than most the other stuff that was handed down to us in the past 15 years.
To me this is a better version of what he intended to do with the "MPLSound" album from the Lotus Flower package, It's been a long time since I've been able to listen to a new Prince album without skipping tracks too much, and for that reason Prince has earned his "+ Sign" for me with with this album. Keep 'em coming like this, Prince!
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