I have listened to this album 5x. While there are certainly some tight ass funk tracks and some decent ballads, I have come to the conclusion that Prince has stagnated. We are all aware that he is capable of rock, funk, r&b and jazz tracks. Why does he not push himself beyond those genres. It hurts my heart to know that this talented musician has pigeonholed himself into these "retro sounds". Half the retro sounds on this album that he is recreating he created himself. Who cares.

I have been following Stings career now for 20 years and he is now doing Classical style arrangements of his work. He hasn't done anything remotely similar to the Police in YEARS. And I read an interview with him and he said, I am not the same person that I was 25 years ago, it would sound strange for me to belt out these types of arrangements in 2010 at my age. (which is why when the police did do a reunion tour, he insisted on different arrangments for ALL of the songs).

While Prince's latest work at times is quite funky, it just feels as if he is being lazy or afraid to work and live outside of his box. I wonder if in his "vault" he has other works that are so "different and strange" that he thought his "audience" couldn't relate to that he decided not to share.

Prince needs to go somewhere so secluded from pop culture, that he would open up to other musical inspirations. South Asia or West Africa come to mind.

Kim69 said:

I have listened to this album 5x. While there are certainly some tight ass funk tracks and some decent ballads, I have come to the conclusion that Prince has stagnated. We are all aware that he is capable of rock, funk, r&b and jazz tracks. Why does he not push himself beyond those genres. It hurts my heart to know that this talented musician has pigeonholed himself into these "retro sounds". Half the retro sounds on this album that he is recreating he created himself. Who cares.

I have been following Stings career now for 20 years and he is now doing Classical style arrangements of his work. He hasn't done anything remotely similar to the Police in YEARS. And I read an interview with him and he said, I am not the same person that I was 25 years ago, it would sound strange for me to belt out these types of arrangements in 2010 at my age. (which is why when the police did do a reunion tour, he insisted on different arrangments for ALL of the songs).

While Prince's latest work at times is quite funky, it just feels as if he is being lazy or afraid to work and live outside of his box. I wonder if in his "vault" he has other works that are so "different and strange" that he thought his "audience" couldn't relate to that he decided not to share.

Prince needs to go somewhere so secluded from pop culture, that he would open up to other musical inspirations. South Asia or West Africa come to mind.

Same here regarding Sting. His work with The Police still sounds as great as ever and he has pushed himself further and further. From Dream Of The Blue Turtles which is one of my all time favorites to his current work with classical flourishes.

The problem with just leaving and going somewhere else to find inspiration, is you have to be open to it. No matter where we go, we take our baggage with us.

Prince seems content with where he's at and really that's all that really matters. Its his life and it seems like instead of being open to more things, he is content to close himself off, isolate himself and insulate himself with his faith. I find no fault in that but I think he could do a lot of good spreading his faith if he could blend the passion for his faith with his art. As talented as Prince is, I am sure he could find a way to channel his two loves into something that is persuasive and transcendent unlike the divisiveness of TRC.

As long as his music is interesting and passionate, I could go along as his message as long as it felt heartfelt and sincere instead of blatantly pandering half-ass nostalgia. Thats why I love "Dreamer" and "Colonized Mind", i wont fault his beliefs in those two songs becasue the music speaks for itself.

[Edited 7/15/10 22:27pm]

estelle81 said:

torah3121 said:

iwish i could listen to it but unfortunatly i don't live over in europe and not going to visit anytime soon . p.s would love if someone could help me with this

I just got the album and I live in NY. All I did was Google 'Prince 20ten' and it gave me sites that offer free downloads of the album...thanks Google. Maybe Prince shouldn't have made a statement about how the internet is dead because now people are using it against him.

I'm sorry, but I refuse to buy an album that others are getting for free (or dirt cheap since it comes in their local paper); especially, after I had to trek to Target (with it's hideously ugly clown red walls, high prices, and obnoxiously chipper sales associates--sorry, but I really hate Target ) and slapped down $10 for 'Lotusflow3r' on the day it came out. I hear he's trying to distribute '20ten' here in the US through WB, which isn't okay with me unless we get the same courtesy that his European fans are getting...a free album or one that's less than $5 (or however much the Mirror costs over there). I haven't listened to it in it's entirety yet, but I am loving 'Future Soul Song' a lot after first listen. Further reviews later.

[Edited 7/15/10 9:33am]

1) Maybe, since Prince already got paid for the album, he made the internet comment so that people would use it "against" him and prove him wrong by downloading an album they otherwise might not be interested in.

B) Yeah, what a rip-off that Lotusflow3r was, huh? It was actually not $10 but rather $11.99, and considering the average price of single CDs, that was a pretty good deal for 2 Prince discs.

III) If you are loving Future Soul Song maybe you should buy it when it's available.

4) If you refuse to buy an album that others are getting for free then I guess you refuse to buy ANY album, cuz somebody always gets it for free...

Funny that a few compare 20ten to DirtyMind...right off the bat that is exactly what I felt about the CD. Not nearly as good as Dirty Mind...but captures the party demo r&b vibe. Sticky Like Glue sounds very 'Head' or 'Uptown'.

I also may have been a bit harsh on my initial review of the cd...it would be more like a 2 out of 10 for me rather than 0.

standouts and possible classics

future soul song

sticky like glue

act of god

laydown

absolute garbage

everybody loves me

sea of everything

walk in the sand

compassion

the rest i can live with or without

Kim69 said:

I have listened to this album 5x. While there are certainly some tight ass funk tracks and some decent ballads, I have come to the conclusion that Prince has stagnated. We are all aware that he is capable of rock, funk, r&b and jazz tracks. Why does he not push himself beyond those genres. It hurts my heart to know that this talented musician has pigeonholed himself into these "retro sounds". Half the retro sounds on this album that he is recreating he created himself. Who cares.

I have been following Stings career now for 20 years and he is now doing Classical style arrangements of his work. He hasn't done anything remotely similar to the Police in YEARS. And I read an interview with him and he said, I am not the same person that I was 25 years ago, it would sound strange for me to belt out these types of arrangements in 2010 at my age. (which is why when the police did do a reunion tour, he insisted on different arrangments for ALL of the songs).

While Prince's latest work at times is quite funky, it just feels as if he is being lazy or afraid to work and live outside of his box. I wonder if in his "vault" he has other works that are so "different and strange" that he thought his "audience" couldn't relate to that he decided not to share.

Prince needs to go somewhere so secluded from pop culture, that he would open up to other musical inspirations. South Asia or West Africa come to mind.

Great post.

Wall said:

Kim69 said:

I have listened to this album 5x. While there are certainly some tight ass funk tracks and some decent ballads, I have come to the conclusion that Prince has stagnated. We are all aware that he is capable of rock, funk, r&b and jazz tracks. Why does he not push himself beyond those genres. It hurts my heart to know that this talented musician has pigeonholed himself into these "retro sounds". Half the retro sounds on this album that he is recreating he created himself. Who cares.

I have been following Stings career now for 20 years and he is now doing Classical style arrangements of his work. He hasn't done anything remotely similar to the Police in YEARS. And I read an interview with him and he said, I am not the same person that I was 25 years ago, it would sound strange for me to belt out these types of arrangements in 2010 at my age. (which is why when the police did do a reunion tour, he insisted on different arrangments for ALL of the songs).

While Prince's latest work at times is quite funky, it just feels as if he is being lazy or afraid to work and live outside of his box. I wonder if in his "vault" he has other works that are so "different and strange" that he thought his "audience" couldn't relate to that he decided not to share.

Prince needs to go somewhere so secluded from pop culture, that he would open up to other musical inspirations. South Asia or West Africa come to mind.

Great post.

Yeah, I'm sure that you would be the first on here to heap loads of praise upon Prince for releasing an album reworking his classics with the Minneapolis Philharmonic.

jockeyb4u said:

Wall said:

Great post.

Yeah, I'm sure that you would be the first on here to heap loads of praise upon Prince for releasing an album reworking his classics with the Minneapolis Philharmonic.

Right on, jockeyb4u.

I don't think Prince need rearrange his songs to fit a classical model, but it wouldn't hurt if he took the time to learn how to actually read and write music. The modern day Mozart was always a crock, but it might not be such a joke of a term if the guy stopped writing pop-pap for the tweens, 3-5 year olds themes, and Jersey Shore cast bangers if he took a little time to study theory. As it is, he's stuck in 4/4 time, digging up old sounds with trite lyrics and lifeless delivery.

I personally can't stomach Sting, but I'll give him credit for not turning on Radio 1 and doing his best to write something that'll fit in with the dreck of the day.

I gotta say it's rather amusing reading all these fan reviews. It's like everyone wants something different from Prince to suit there expectations of who they think Prince is and what he should be doing musically. And everyone seems to be an expert on the subject. Lol. Mostly it comes from a place of love and that's cool but I say just be happy he's still making music for us.

If you want a certain style or era go listen to that era. If you dont' like his newer music and haven't for some time move on. I truly believe if you haven't liked anything he's done in quite some time then you probably never will. And no I don't love everthing he's done but I do find something enjoyable from most of his stuff. If I didn't, I would've moved on a long time ago. Just saying.

Bfunkthe1 said:

I gotta say it's rather amusing reading all these fan reviews. It's like everyone wants something different from Prince to suit there expectations of who they think Prince is and what he should be doing musically. And everyone seems to be an expert on the subject. Lol. Mostly it comes from a place of love and that's cool but I say just be happy he's still making music for us.

If you want a certain style or era go listen to that era. If you dont' like his newer music and haven't for some time move on. I truly believe if you haven't liked anything he's done in quite some time then you probably never will. And no I don't love everthing he's done but I do find something enjoyable from most of his stuff. If I didn't, I would've moved on a long time ago. Just saying.

Too much sense really...

Level headed, reasonable post....I guess people are getting too wrapped up in the whole Super Negro Theory thing....

[Edited 7/16/10 11:00am]

Bfunkthe1 said:

I gotta say it's rather amusing reading all these fan reviews. It's like everyone wants something different from Prince to suit there expectations of who they think Prince is and what he should be doing musically. And everyone seems to be an expert on the subject. Lol. Mostly it comes from a place of love and that's cool but I say just be happy he's still making music for us.

If you want a certain style or era go listen to that era. If you dont' like his newer music and haven't for some time move on. I truly believe if you haven't liked anything he's done in quite some time then you probably never will. And no I don't love everthing he's done but I do find something enjoyable from most of his stuff. If I didn't, I would've moved on a long time ago. Just saying.

I'm glad u find it amusing. i find it frustrating. Each individual seems to look at it as prince's failure even though for ten people there are ten different expectations being placed on him. Are people not perceptive enough to realize its about as much what they are bringing to the music as it is the music itself? I'm just glad Prince is still highly creative. I think even the haters secretly like the music more then they let on otherwise something has to be wrong with them to keep coming back for more. Prince is still a very unusual and very gifted performer. The sheer scope and depth of work is really too much for the average fan. its just a shame so many need to dismiss the music that doesn't personally connect with them. Its the self-centered view of his art that i find the most unappealling about his fans.

^

Well when I say it's "amusing" I'm trying to be polite...

Your post is right on Tricky. Imo.

I would say It's as good as Controversy and Batman, the two albums that Bookend the classic album run.

It's yet another highly enjoyable album.

I love Prince music, this is Prince making music that sounds like Prince, and that's what I want I want

I dread the day he decides to make an album of lute music.

There is a lot of "amusing" bs flying now

Art and criticism go hand in hand, just as art and appreciation go hand in hand. Art does not live in isolation, in a air tight bubble. For art to thrive and live it needs exposure to other points of view, otherwise its religion.

Other than the few obvious pandering reviews by the very folks hawking their newspapers, the consensus by music critics so far, not "fans" is that 20ten is not very good.

I love hearing that people like 20ten, I think i learn something deeper with each review. Just because someone doesn't "love" it not mean we have to find fault in that or vice versa.

[Edited 7/16/10 11:32am]

violetblues said:

There is a lot of "amusing" bs flying now

Art and criticism go hand in hand, just as art and appreciation go hand in hand. Art does not live in isolation, in a air tight bubble. For art to thrive and live it needs exposure to other points of view, otherwise its religion.

Other than the few obvious pandering reviews by the very folks hawking their newspapers, the consensus by music critics so far, not "fans" is that 20ten is not very good.

I love hearing that people like 20ten, I think i learn something deeper with each review. Just because someone doesn't "love" it not mean we have to find fault in that or vice versa.

[Edited 7/16/10 11:32am]

Actually, the criticism has been mixed...It seems like the UK press has been the most negative reviewers of the album , while the American reviewers have been a lot more positive...It is what it is...

Kim69 said:

I have been following Stings career now for 20 years and he is now doing Classical style arrangements of his work. He hasn't done anything remotely similar to the Police in YEARS. And I read an interview with him and he said, I am not the same person that I was 25 years ago, it would sound strange for me to belt out these types of arrangements in 2010 at my age. (which is why when the police did do a reunion tour, he insisted on different arrangments for ALL of the songs).

Havent bought a Sting album since Soul Cages. Not a path I'd like to see Prince go down.

The biggest critism I have of Prince is that he never was confident enough to work with another producer or other artists of his calibre.

I have no problem with the nostalgia because Prince abandoned this style way too soon. He hasnt done music like this since 1984-85. Parade - SOTT - LS all were radical changes from the classic Prince sound and radicially different from each other. It also would have been nice to hear him explore each of those more. Instead, after some weird tinny production and embarrasing attemps at hip hop from 1988-1995/6, we've had basically the same sound from 1996-2008 (with a few small glimmers of something new). Its not crazy to have at least one more go at the classic Minneapolis Sound.

murph said:

violetblues said:

There is a lot of "amusing" bs flying now

Art and criticism go hand in hand, just as art and appreciation go hand in hand. Art does not live in isolation, in a air tight bubble. For art to thrive and live it needs exposure to other points of view, otherwise its religion.

Other than the few obvious pandering reviews by the very folks hawking their newspapers, the consensus by music critics so far, not "fans" is that 20ten is not very good.

I love hearing that people like 20ten, I think i learn something deeper with each review. Just because someone doesn't "love" it not mean we have to find fault in that or vice versa.

[Edited 7/16/10 11:32am]

Actually, the criticism has been mixed...It seems like the UK press has been the most negative reviewers of the album , while the American reviewers have been a lot more positive...It is what it is...

Only those who bothered to find the album lol I guess why there's not too many American reviews is because they're waiting for it to be officially released (as a CD in stores) here.

Quick review:

With 20Ten Prince shows to the "world?" (UK) that he still can craft songs, but at the same time he can't hide the fact that he has lost the mid-00s spark that made 3121 such a strong mainstream pop/dance/R&B/funk record (a Nº1 album)

PE was just ok, LF respectable but boring and MPLS was full of forgettable jams with a nostalgic 1999-like sound that was not exhilarating at all...

20Ten, for me, is a mix of MPLS and PE: a combination of the standard R&B/rock of songs like The 1 U Wanna C or Future Baby Mama mixed with the retro synth sound of MPLS. You can say that Prince is tryin' to sound contemporary with 20Ten, but he fails miserably: when he tries to sound contemporary, he sounds ridiculous and he embraces shit-hop (Laydown)! on the other hand, when he tries to make a classicist single, he just regurgitates jams which sound hopelessly dated, like bad Controvery/Dirty Mind outtakes or whatever (Lavaux, Sticky Like Glue and Compassion being the clearest examples). And the ballads are completely uneven , nothing on the level of SHOE or even Satisfied.

Conclusion: just another modern Prince pop album, just another Emancipation disc 1/3, just another NPS, just another Rave, just another Chocolate Invasion, just another lesser version of 3121. Many of the songs are just plain bad (I mean, just worse than bad B-Sides) and, let's face it, there are no classics on 20Ten; PE at least had Chelsea Rodgers and LF has Dreamer and Colonized Mind. But Compassion a classic?? Give me a break

** out of ***** Best track: Beginning Endlessly

another more or less pleasant but completely uneven LP released via British Newspapers () which will be forgotten in a couple of years. And I'm not being nostalgic or whatever: at this point, I'm not expecting a new 1999 or a new SOTT, I'M JUST EXPECTING A NEW GOLD EXPERIENCE or a NEW 3121, no more and no less...

but not lazy efforts like 20Ten, please

but you know what is worse? Rave was an uneven record, period, but at least its failure was tragic cuz at that point, the media, a reasonably big portion of old-school fans and the industry (Arista) still cared for him...his "resurrection" via 3121/Super Bowl Show was exhilarating, but it was, at the same time, short-lived: with 20Ten Prince is dying once again, but at this point NOBODY cares. That's the difference between 20Ten and Rave...

At this point, he can only release his music via british newspapers, and that's sad, people, just sad.

JoeTyler said:

Quick review:

With 20Ten Prince shows to the "world?" (UK) that he still can craft songs, but at the same time he can't hide the fact that he has lost the mid-00s spark that made 3121 such a strong mainstream pop/dance/R&B/funk record (a Nº1 album)

PE was just ok, LF respectable but boring and MPLS was full of forgettable jams with a nostalgic 1999-like sound that was not exhilarating at all...

20Ten, for me, is a mix of MPLS and PE: a combination of the standard R&B/rock of songs like The 1 U Wanna C or Future Baby Mama mixed with the retro synth sound of MPLS. You can say that Prince is tryin' to sound contemporary with 20Ten, but he fails miserably: when he tries to sound contemporary, he sounds ridiculous and he embraces shit-hop (Laydown)! on the other hand, when he tries to make a classicist single, he just regurgitates jams which sound hopelessly dated, like bad Controvery/Dirty Mind outtakes or whatever (Lavaux, Sticky Like Glue and Compassion being the clearest examples). And the ballads are completely uneven , nothing on the level of SHOE or even Satisfied.

Conclusion: just another modern Prince pop album, just another Emancipation disc 1/3, just another NPS, just another Rave, just another Chocolate Invasion, just another lesser version of 3121. Many of the songs are just plain bad (I mean, just worse than bad B-Sides) and, let's face it, there are no classics on 20Ten; PE at least had Chelsea Rodgers and LF has Dreamer and Colonized Mind. But Compassion a classic?? Give me a break

** out of ***** Best track: Beginning Endlessly

another more or less pleasant but completely uneven LP released via British Newspapers () which will be forgotten in a couple of years. And I'm not being nostalgic or whatever: at this point, I'm not expecting a new 1999 or a new SOTT, I'M JUST EXPECTING A NEW GOLD EXPERIENCE or a NEW 3121, no more and no less...

but not lazy efforts like 20Ten, please

but you know what is worse? Rave was an uneven record, period, but at least its failure was tragic cuz at that point, the media, a reasonably big portion of old-school fans and the industry (Arista) still cared for him...his "resurrection" via 3121/Super Bowl Show was exhilarating, but it was, at the same time, short-lived: with 20Ten Prince is dying once again, but at this point NOBODY cares. That's the difference between 20Ten and Rave...

At this point, he can only release his music via british newspapers, and that's sad, people, just sad.

"Chelsea Rogers????".... Yeah....OK...

And Prince is "dying"?...Hyperbole for dinner, huh?

[Edited 7/16/10 15:43pm]

murph said:

JoeTyler said:

Quick review:

With 20Ten Prince shows to the "world?" (UK) that he still can craft songs, but at the same time he can't hide the fact that he has lost the mid-00s spark that made 3121 such a strong mainstream pop/dance/R&B/funk record (a Nº1 album)

PE was just ok, LF respectable but boring and MPLS was full of forgettable jams with a nostalgic 1999-like sound that was not exhilarating at all...

20Ten, for me, is a mix of MPLS and PE: a combination of the standard R&B/rock of songs like The 1 U Wanna C or Future Baby Mama mixed with the retro synth sound of MPLS. You can say that Prince is tryin' to sound contemporary with 20Ten, but he fails miserably: when he tries to sound contemporary, he sounds ridiculous and he embraces shit-hop (Laydown)! on the other hand, when he tries to make a classicist single, he just regurgitates jams which sound hopelessly dated, like bad Controvery/Dirty Mind outtakes or whatever (Lavaux, Sticky Like Glue and Compassion being the clearest examples). And the ballads are completely uneven , nothing on the level of SHOE or even Satisfied.

Conclusion: just another modern Prince pop album, just another Emancipation disc 1/3, just another NPS, just another Rave, just another Chocolate Invasion, just another lesser version of 3121. Many of the songs are just plain bad (I mean, just worse than bad B-Sides) and, let's face it, there are no classics on 20Ten; PE at least had Chelsea Rodgers and LF has Dreamer and Colonized Mind. But Compassion a classic?? Give me a break

** out of ***** Best track: Beginning Endlessly

another more or less pleasant but completely uneven LP released via British Newspapers () which will be forgotten in a couple of years. And I'm not being nostalgic or whatever: at this point, I'm not expecting a new 1999 or a new SOTT, I'M JUST EXPECTING A NEW GOLD EXPERIENCE or a NEW 3121, no more and no less...

but not lazy efforts like 20Ten, please

but you know what is worse? Rave was an uneven record, period, but at least its failure was tragic cuz at that point, the media, a reasonably big portion of old-school fans and the industry (Arista) still cared for him...his "resurrection" via 3121/Super Bowl Show was exhilarating, but it was, at the same time, short-lived: with 20Ten Prince is dying once again, but at this point NOBODY cares. That's the difference between 20Ten and Rave...

At this point, he can only release his music via british newspapers, and that's sad, people, just sad.

"Chelsea Rogers????".... Yeah....OK...

And Prince is "dying"?...Hyperbole for dinner, huh?

[Edited 7/16/10 15:43pm]

There are no bad songs on 20TEN. The first six tracks are slamming for me, until those back to back ballads (bad choice). And every Prince record is uneven depending upon what kind of music you enjoy.

As far as Compassion being a classic, I'd say it's a better opener than "I Know" from Lovesexy.

JoeTyler said:

At this point, he can only release his music via british newspapers, and that's sad, people, just sad.

Hah! No...what's sad is if you really believe that releasing his albums for free inside British newspapers is the only option he has to put out his music. REALLY!? I find it hard to believe that you actually believe that. Prince has experimented with distribution methods for YEARS now...for well over a decade. It's nothing new. But to make it sound like he has no other choice but to resort to such things...that's bullshit. He could put out an album on any major label if he wanted to and you know it.

It just sounds like an attempt on your part to shit on Prince because you don't like his album. And that's a shame. If you don't like something, fine. But to make up lies in an attempt to make the guy look pathetic just makes you look pathetic.

3chainsofgold said:

standouts and possible classics

future soul song

sticky like glue

act of god

laydown

absolute garbage

everybody loves me

sea of everything

walk in the sand

compassion

the rest i can live with or without

I totally agree.

I liked the album originally. I just don't listen to it any more, I'm more likely to pop in Lotusflow3r. I guess I just lost interest.

3chainsofgold said:

Funny that a few compare 20ten to DirtyMind...right off the bat that is exactly what I felt about the CD. Not nearly as good as Dirty Mind...but captures the party demo r&b vibe. Sticky Like Glue sounds very 'Head' or 'Uptown'.

I also may have been a bit harsh on my initial review of the cd...it would be more like a 2 out of 10 for me rather than 0.

standouts and possible classics

future soul song

sticky like glue

act of god

laydown

absolute garbage

everybody loves me

sea of everything

walk in the sand

compassion

the rest i can live with or without

I completely agree with you on all points

tricky99 said:

Bfunkthe1 said:

I gotta say it's rather amusing reading all these fan reviews. It's like everyone wants something different from Prince to suit there expectations of who they think Prince is and what he should be doing musically. And everyone seems to be an expert on the subject. Lol. Mostly it comes from a place of love and that's cool but I say just be happy he's still making music for us.

If you want a certain style or era go listen to that era. If you dont' like his newer music and haven't for some time move on. I truly believe if you haven't liked anything he's done in quite some time then you probably never will. And no I don't love everthing he's done but I do find something enjoyable from most of his stuff. If I didn't, I would've moved on a long time ago. Just saying.

I'm glad u find it amusing. i find it frustrating. Each individual seems to look at it as prince's failure even though for ten people there are ten different expectations being placed on him. Are people not perceptive enough to realize its about as much what they are bringing to the music as it is the music itself? I'm just glad Prince is still highly creative. I think even the haters secretly like the music more then they let on otherwise something has to be wrong with them to keep coming back for more. Prince is still a very unusual and very gifted performer. The sheer scope and depth of work is really too much for the average fan. its just a shame so many need to dismiss the music that doesn't personally connect with them. Its the self-centered view of his art that i find the most unappealling about his fans.

piepie1976 said:

JoeTyler said:

At this point, he can only release his music via british newspapers, and that's sad, people, just sad.

Hah! No...what's sad is if you really believe that releasing his albums for free inside British newspapers is the only option he has to put out his music. REALLY!? I find it hard to believe that you actually believe that. Prince has experimented with distribution methods for YEARS now...for well over a decade. It's nothing new. But to make it sound like he has no other choice but to resort to such things...that's bullshit. He could put out an album on any major label if he wanted to and you know it.

It just sounds like an attempt on your part to shit on Prince because you don't like his album. And that's a shame. If you don't like something, fine. But to make up lies in an attempt to make the guy look pathetic just makes you look pathetic.

Yeah, perhaps I was shitting on Prince because he has released ANOTHER post-3121 album with just 2 good tracks, 4 ok ones and 4 shitty ones, and I'm tired, and angry...

And I know that Prince HAS other ways to release his music, but I'm not sure if a MAJOR label would be interested in 20Ten; I'm looking forward how 20Ten his gonna be released in the States and the rest of Europe...

futurebaybeemama said:

3chainsofgold said:

Funny that a few compare 20ten to DirtyMind...right off the bat that is exactly what I felt about the CD. Not nearly as good as Dirty Mind...but captures the party demo r&b vibe. Sticky Like Glue sounds very 'Head' or 'Uptown'.

I also may have been a bit harsh on my initial review of the cd...it would be more like a 2 out of 10 for me rather than 0.

standouts and possible classics

future soul song

sticky like glue

act of god

laydown

absolute garbage

everybody loves me

sea of everything

walk in the sand

compassion

the rest i can live with or without

I completely agree with you on all points

standout

Beginning Endlessly

good album tracks

sticky like glue

future soul song

compassion

just ok / forced / dated

act of god

laveaux

utter garbage

walk in sand

everybody loves me

sea of everything

controversial track

Laydown

i listened to the whole album once, and sticky like glue twice.

Prince's musicianship is still fantastic, in my opinion, but over-all the album did not move me to listened to it twice.

even though it's extrememly listenable, fun and smooth, for me personally, it lacks sparkle.

maybe its the production or something else.

that said, i think its still a much better album than most in the music industry today.

smoothcriminal12 said:

I liked the album originally. I just don't listen to it any more, I'm more likely to pop in Lotusflow3r. I guess I just lost interest.

you are tired of "20Ten" already....????

That was fast,

I love 8 out of 10 songs.

Worst, not good:

Walk In Sand,

Everybody Loves Me.

Good:

Compassion

Future Soul Song

Act Of God

Lavaux

Sea Of Everything

the Best, really great songs:

Beginning Endlessly

Laydown

Sticky Like Glue

I am still listening to "20Ten" 2 or 3 times a day.

well had a few days to listen to the album....and read a number of reviews on here and on other sites on the internet....i am one of the first to say that prince quality control on his output in the last fifteen years has been questionable......he has put out a number of clunkers over the last few years......but i find myself reading some of the reviews and have realized that old saying is sooo true....' you cant please all of the people all of the time'.....yes as i said in my first review .....this album aint no sign o the times.....its maybe not even the best this decade.......it is very safe and prince on autopilot....yes.....but i have enjoyed listening to it and have to say its good to hear some straight up funk from him.....nothing fantastic but enjoyable to listen to.....i think beginning endlessly is as good as he has released in fifteen years........and the thing some people on here seem to forget......this album was released in a newspaper to two and a half million people...most of them not big fans......there is no point in prince trying to push musicial bounderies or trying something a bit different ( which he will do ) to people who in general think x factor/ pop idol is the pinnacle of musicial exellence.......

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something else which is annoying me.....this idea that his 80s output was utterly brilliant and everything post 1995 is crap........this is absolute bullshit.......yes his 80s output..in general....was great.....but he released a few shockers then as well.....he has lost the cutting edge he had in the 80s....yes.....but he still releases great music.....just not as much as then when he was a young artist still growing and learning.....no artist is brilliant throughout their career........bowie and stevie wonder are both giants in recent musicial history but their output since their creative high in the 70s is questionable to poor ......sign o the times got some poor reviews when it was released ( and is my personnal favourite album ).....yes....the all time classic was reviewed as having some poor demo like tracks......some people need to take off the rose tainted 80s glasses and take a more measured view of his music....

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prince output has always been mixed.....he releases so much stuff that its not really surprising but i think with the death of mj......people need to be thankful he is still going strong and at his best.....there is no one better......yes he can be a wee dick with his behaviour and religious rantings.......but i will love his music til the day i die.......i am away to play 20ten full blast and dance like a prat in my living room.....chill out people and see ya later

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.oh ...20ten overall.....7 out of 10 ....

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great track

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beginning endlessly

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good tracks

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future soul song

act of god

lavaux

laydown

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average

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compassion

sticky like glue

walk in sand

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poor

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sea of everything

everybody loves me

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JoeTyler said:

piepie1976 said:

Hah! No...what's sad is if you really believe that releasing his albums for free inside British newspapers is the only option he has to put out his music. REALLY!? I find it hard to believe that you actually believe that. Prince has experimented with distribution methods for YEARS now...for well over a decade. It's nothing new. But to make it sound like he has no other choice but to resort to such things...that's bullshit. He could put out an album on any major label if he wanted to and you know it.

It just sounds like an attempt on your part to shit on Prince because you don't like his album. And that's a shame. If you don't like something, fine. But to make up lies in an attempt to make the guy look pathetic just makes you look pathetic.

Yeah, perhaps I was shitting on Prince because he has released ANOTHER post-3121 album with just 2 good tracks, 4 ok ones and 4 shitty ones, and I'm tired, and angry...

And I know that Prince HAS other ways to release his music, but I'm not sure if a MAJOR label would be interested in 20Ten; I'm looking forward how 20Ten his gonna be released in the States and the rest of Europe...

U realize that how u feel about certain tracks is entirely your own perspective right? For every "shitty" song somebody else is enjoying the "shit" out of it. No need to be tired and angry. i am sure if prince could dial directly into your brain to create his music u would be satisfied but unfortunately that power eludes him. So I guess u will just have to be mad.