With everyone saying they will just toss the newspaper, in their respective country, does anyone think that maybe 10, 20 or even 50 years down the road the 20TEN CD will be a collector's item if it's still packaged and unopened inside the newspaper?

Given the dates and stories within the actual newspaper, I think this could be a future collector's item if unopened...

Any thoughts?

Given his stupid behaviour, many people no longer remember him now.

I don't want to think who will remember (or care about) him in 50 years.

[Edited 7/2/10 16:10pm]

vitriol said:

Given his stupid behaviour, many people no longer remember him now.

I don't want to think who will remember (or care about) him in 50 years.

[Edited 7/2/10 16:10pm]

That's a little harsh. And in all honesty, I don't think it's true. In the old days, people either loved Prince or hated him. Now that he's older and still tearing it up, even people in the middle are giving him respect.

Having said that, who knows if eBay will even be around in 50 years.

Wow, people are so negative towards those things, lol.^^^^^^^^^

Well I think that it could but in a way maybe people don't remember him much like that guy said.. just a thought im probably wrong though.

No, it won't be a collector's item. There'll be far too many of them around for that (just look at how

many copies of Planet Earth there are on eBay now for proof of that). Keeping it attached to the

newspaper won't make any real difference to it's value.

Collector's item dictates that it's in smaller numbers, and thereby rare and hard to get a hold of by normal means. It'll be no more rare than Planet Earth was being distributed the same way, or the Musicology CD given away at concerts. I have one of those, which came in a simple printed slip cover, for $4 at Record Town/FYE.

What's rare then? An original pressing of The Black Album (or even one of the 1994 pressings, which were limited to 500,000 copies, I believe). A picture disk is rare. The balloon boy disk for ATWIAD is rare. Purple Rain on purple vinyl is rare. 7" of "When Doves Cry" on purple vinyl is SUPER rare (I have it).

20Ten? Not so much. It's only collectible for those who want to keep it in such condition, which won't be most, over time.

And in 50 years, not many people are going to either 1) give a shit about Prince, or 2) pay attention to anything past the mid 90's material. Hell, all the masters will be degraded and destroyed by then anyway, so the rarest thing is just to get a copy of anything by that point. Most of us will be dead, or too old to give a shit anyway.

I don't think it will be, but let's see how it does first

ernestsewell said:

And in 50 years, not many people are going to either 1) give a shit about Prince, or 2) pay attention to anything past the mid 90's material. Hell, all the masters will be degraded and destroyed by then anyway, so the rarest thing is just to get a copy of anything by that point. Most of us will be dead, or too old to give a shit anyway.

Sadly, I agree. However brilliant Prince was (and arguably still is -and let's leave it at that), he'll be forgotten in 2060, since the music will not be there to attract new fans. He'll be remembered as long as he lives (provided he does not do something with his legacy, which by now is more than likely that he won't) and as long as you and I aren't going senile.

So no, 20ten in the news paper edition will not be a collector's item as it's, (very boldly put):

1) more mass produced than the vinyl edition of Pink Floyds "The Wall", which you can get for about two finger nail clippings and a sneeze.

2) made by an artist whose artistic merit is mostly in the memory of his fans more than a physical presence in the shops. So as his fans grow older and die, Prince's legacy will be no more, as his accompliments in the field of music to a higher and higher extend are purely anecdotal, rather than a factual, physical and accessible piece of work to new music lovers. All of which leads us to:

3) 20ten is not likely to be the new Purple Rain or SOTT that'd end up being canonized by critics and the general public as a hall mark record, regardless of how much individual fans may like it, and therefore its future as a "sought after item" builds upon its status as being part of the continuated history of the music of Prince. Like a television series, people don't get hooked on a pilot episode they don't like and end up "seeing it through to the end".

As in: Like Wonder's and Bowie's 1970's discography ensures respectable sales of new releases, anything released past 2000 by Prince reaps what his music in the 1980's sowed. Without the presence of his 1980s music in, say, 2060, no one will really be interested in knowing what Prince did in his later career, and no one will understand the musical journey he has taken from For You to 20ten, since nobody will know him for anything but "The guy I've heard did something brilliant in the 1980s .. but I've never heard what it was he did".

Yeah, cynical, I know ... but that's the way it's going I think.

[Edited 7/3/10 5:39am]

someone is already selling it on ebay..

http://cgi.ebay.com/PRINC...27b311e540

Nothing lasts forever, we'll all be dead in a hundred years. And if mankind is history the universe will give a shit what once happened on our planet. It's just senseless to speculate what will happen in 50 years or later, because we just don't know and it doesn't really matter. Love and live your life, celebrate it now and as long and intense as you can. It could be over tomorow.

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inspireof said:

someone is already selling it on ebay..

http://cgi.ebay.com/PRINC...27b311e540

I saw that too

vitriol said:

Given his stupid behaviour, many people no longer remember him now.

I don't want to think who will remember (or care about) him in 50 years.

[Edited 7/2/10 16:10pm]

will anyone care about YOU in 50 years?

inspireof said:

someone is already selling it on ebay..

http://cgi.ebay.com/PRINC...27b311e540

Yeah but they are not going to recieve it until the album come out

ernestsewell said:

What's rare then? An original pressing of The Black Album (or even one of the 1994 pressings, which were limited to 500,000 copies, I believe). A picture disk is rare. The balloon boy disk for ATWIAD is rare. Purple Rain on purple vinyl is rare. 7" of "When Doves Cry" on purple vinyl is SUPER rare (I have it).

I happen to have Purple Rain on purple vinyl.. I may have a 12" of Purple Rain/God on purple vinyl as well. I got the 7" of When Doves Cry on purple vinyl too.. Didn't know it was super rare. Time to pull these things out of the chest

paisleypark4 said:

inspireof said:

someone is already selling it on ebay..

http://cgi.ebay.com/PRINC...27b311e540

Yeah but they are not going to recieve it until the album come out

a lot of people are still buying it, i think they just want to download it on the 8th and also have an official cd too mostly non euro folks I'm guessing..

ernestsewell said:

Collector's item dictates that it's in smaller numbers, and thereby rare and hard to get a hold of by normal means. It'll be no more rare than Planet Earth was being distributed the same way, or the Musicology CD given away at concerts. I have one of those, which came in a simple printed slip cover, for $4 at Record Town/FYE.

What's rare then? An original pressing of The Black Album (or even one of the 1994 pressings, which were limited to 500,000 copies, I believe). A picture disk is rare. The balloon boy disk for ATWIAD is rare. Purple Rain on purple vinyl is rare. 7" of "When Doves Cry" on purple vinyl is SUPER rare (I have it).

20Ten? Not so much. It's only collectible for those who want to keep it in such condition, which won't be most, over time.

And in 50 years, not many people are going to either 1) give a shit about Prince, or 2) pay attention to anything past the mid 90's material. Hell, all the masters will be degraded and destroyed by then anyway, so the rarest thing is just to get a copy of anything by that point. Most of us will be dead, or too old to give a shit anyway.

What would be rare would be if the CD still was attached to the newspaper in 50 years. I don't know if the newspaper itself will be wrapped in plastic or how the CD is going to be attached, but what I mean by rare is if the CD is still connected to the time-sensitive newspaper.

ludwig said:

Nothing lasts forever, we'll all be dead in a hundred years. And if mankind is history the universe will give a shit what once happened on our planet. It's just senseless to speculate what will happen in 50 years or later, because we just don't know and it doesn't really matter. Love and live your life, celebrate it now and as long and intense as you can. It could be over tomorow.

[Edited 7/3/10 7:12am]

Umm... speak for yourself. I won't be dead in a hundred years.

berniejobs said:

ludwig said:

Nothing lasts forever, we'll all be dead in a hundred years. And if mankind is history the universe will give a shit what once happened on our planet. It's just senseless to speculate what will happen in 50 years or later, because we just don't know and it doesn't really matter. Love and live your life, celebrate it now and as long and intense as you can. It could be over tomorow.

[Edited 7/3/10 7:12am]

Umm... speak for yourself. I won't be dead in a hundred years.

wishful thinking....

ludwig said:

berniejobs said:

Umm... speak for yourself. I won't be dead in a hundred years.

wishful thinking....

Nope. Fact.

ernestsewell said:

Collector's item dictates that it's in smaller numbers, and thereby rare and hard to get a hold of by normal means. It'll be no more rare than Planet Earth was being distributed the same way, or the Musicology CD given away at concerts. I have one of those, which came in a simple printed slip cover, for $4 at Record Town/FYE.

What's rare then? An original pressing of The Black Album (or even one of the 1994 pressings, which were limited to 500,000 copies, I believe). A picture disk is rare. The balloon boy disk for ATWIAD is rare. Purple Rain on purple vinyl is rare. 7" of "When Doves Cry" on purple vinyl is SUPER rare (I have it).

20Ten? Not so much. It's only collectible for those who want to keep it in such condition, which won't be most, over time.

And in 50 years, not many people are going to either 1) give a shit about Prince, or 2) pay attention to anything past the mid 90's material. Hell, all the masters will be degraded and destroyed by then anyway, so the rarest thing is just to get a copy of anything by that point. Most of us will be dead, or too old to give a shit anyway.

I have a few of the 80's era cds..madhouse 8 & 16, taja, jill jones..got them when they first came out...one of my favorites is the If I was your girlfriend promo us cd single which came with a cool sticker on the front of jewel case...i managed to pick up a few of the 2nd release black album us promo vinyl.....their used to be a great dj pool record store in SF called Record Soul....and the store always had promo copies of new vinyl coming out by P,MJ, and the Material Girlback in the day!!!

Too many of them in circulation to become worth any real value. Unopened obviously will be more desirable. If there were small numbers being produced then yes. But with millions (most unwanted) landing on shores around europe, I doubt it.

If you're thinking of making some pocket change from 20Ten, now is probably the best time to do that, what with the limited number of countries it's currently going to be available in, not holding onto a stack of newspapers in your basement for 20 years.

Not that I agree with doing that myself, but it would be rather industrious, if one had the energy, or the desire.

ernestsewell said:

Collector's item dictates that it's in smaller numbers, and thereby rare and hard to get a hold of by normal means. It'll be no more rare than Planet Earth was being distributed the same way, or the Musicology CD given away at concerts. I have one of those, which came in a simple printed slip cover, for $4 at Record Town/FYE.

What's rare then? An original pressing of The Black Album (or even one of the 1994 pressings, which were limited to 500,000 copies, I believe). A picture disk is rare. The balloon boy disk for ATWIAD is rare. Purple Rain on purple vinyl is rare. 7" of "When Doves Cry" on purple vinyl is SUPER rare (I have it).

20Ten? Not so much. It's only collectible for those who want to keep it in such condition, which won't be most, over time.

And in 50 years, not many people are going to either 1) give a shit about Prince, or 2) pay attention to anything past the mid 90's material. Hell, all the masters will be degraded and destroyed by then anyway, so the rarest thing is just to get a copy of anything by that point. Most of us will be dead, or too old to give a shit anyway.

They are lovely items esp the Paisley Park picture disc but one look on ebay tells you that they are still easily obtainable (even the When Doves Cry purple 7"). I think that the only rare items are those that were issued in small numbers. Items like the promo coloured vinyl LPs (in White or Orange) pressings for the Black Album or the Strange Tales From The Rain/His Majestys Pop Life jap LPs. Of course as time passes stuff will get lost/damaged etc and so the numbers will deplete further making rare items even rarer but as you say by then we may dead or just too old to a shit anyway!