The one new track where he tapped into the old Prince magic again. Shows what he is still capable of if he'd just let loose once in a while.

[Edited 6/20/10 0:04am]

funkomatic said:

- top-notch vocals

- average groove

- annoying synth sound

In short: unworthy for an appreciation thread!

a jaded Prince "fan"...

One man's unappreciation is another man's appreciation.

Why Black Sweat is a subpar mediocre song, coming from Prince.

That high octave keyboard whistle that is the signiture of the song is really patronizing.

Dr. Dre was the one who had brought it to popular music 13 years earlier. Throughout that time, everybody and their grandma (from rappers to boy bands, etc,etc.) had rode the whistling sound bandwagon to death. So by the time Prince decided to use it in Black Sweat, ... everyone else had already stopped because it was so played out and predictable.

Also for some misguided reason, people keep comparing Black Sweat to Kiss. But the two couldnt be anymore different.

Whereas Kiss was a cutting edge innovation in production. (Reverse phasing effect on the Kick drum. Delay effects on the open Hi-Hat. Fusing with the subtle chords of the marimba keyboard sound.)

Black Sweat is instead... just your stock, garden variety, hard pounding Hip-Hop drums.

They sound like they could be on anybody else's record.

Now keep in mind, Big Drum sounds where just as much in fashion in the 80's when Prince did Kiss, as they are today, but Kiss was still DIFFERENT, not just pounding and loud.

And when Prince did use big sounds, like say on Housequake, the sounds themselves were customized. They didnt sound like every other drum machine on the radio.

Theres nothing innovative or fresh about Black Sweat. Prince is basically doing a version of a Pharrell type song...without undestanding at all what actually makes a good Pharrell song.

[Edited 6/20/10 10:41am]

2elijah said:

xlr8r said:

Aww shit. Now that all I'm going to think of when I hear it...Barnabus Collins

Barnabus Collins was the shizzit. He was in love with "Angelique's" ghost, and when the scent of jasmine perfume filled the room, he knew her presence was there. Damn, now just thinking of that reminds me how old I am. But yeah, that high pitch tone in "Dark Shadows" was eery.

[Edited 6/17/10 17:14pm]

Barnabas Collins used to scare the ...outta me when I was a kid. My brother and I used to scream Barnabas Collins!!! at each other and run out of the room to try to scare each other.

Now, Black Sweat is a cool track, I like it. I like the live version when he says, "I got a brand new dance and it's called...the shaker puddin'". Wish he put that on the studio version.

sexyfunkystrange said:

Why Black Sweat is a subpar mediocre song, coming from Prince.

That high octave keyboard whistle that is the signiture of the song is really patronizing.

Dr. Dre was the one who had brought it to popular music 13 years earlier. Throughout that time, everybody and their grandma (from rappers to boy bands, etc,etc.) had rode the whistling sound bandwagon to death. So by the time Prince decided to use it in Black Sweat, ... everyone else had already stopped because it was so played out and predictable.

Also for some misguided reason, people keep comparing Black Sweat to Kiss. But the two couldnt be anymore different.

Whereas Kiss was a cutting edge innovation in production. (Reverse phasing effect on the Kick drum. Delay effects on the open Hi-Hat. Fusing with the subtle chords of the marimba keyboard sound.)

Black Sweat is instead... just your stock, garden variety, hard pounding Hip-Hop drums.

They sound like they could be on anybody else's record.

Now keep in mind, Big Drum sounds where just as much in fashion in the 80's when Prince did Kiss, as they are today, but Kiss was still DIFFERENT, not just pounding and loud.

And when Prince did use big sounds, like say on Housequake, the sounds themselves were customized. They didnt sound like every other drum machine on the radio.

Theres nothing innovative or fresh about Black Sweat. Prince is basically doing a version of a Pharrell type song...without undestanding at all what actually makes a good Pharrell song.

[Edited 6/20/10 10:41am]

It always trips me out how someone will write out some long paragraph to hate or express their disdain for something. Like they are doing a mini lecture or dissertation to explain why something is awful...to them.

purplecam said:

I LOVE this song. I loved it from the first time I heard it! It was pure FIRE then and it's still pure FIRE today. I'm still pissed that that the song was the smash hit that it deserved to be.

[Edited 6/17/10 13:33pm]

I agree it was a masterpiece to me..Live even funkier....

xlr8r said:

It always trips me out how someone will write out some long paragraph to hate or express their disdain for something. Like they are doing a mini lecture or dissertation to explain why something is awful...to them.

It's sort of significant that you question one of the most interesting posts of this thread.

This is a discussion board. There's no need to discuss anything if you reduce your opinion to something like "It's a masterpiece" or "A piece of shit".

People who really care about music know what and why they like or dislike something. So when do you actually start to think?

funkomatic said:

xlr8r said:

It always trips me out how someone will write out some long paragraph to hate or express their disdain for something. Like they are doing a mini lecture or dissertation to explain why something is awful...to them.

It's sort of significant that you question one of the most interesting posts of this thread.

This is a discussion board. There's no need to discuss anything if you reduce your opinion to something like "It's a masterpiece" or "A piece of shit".

People who really care about music know what and why they like or dislike something. So when do you actually start to think?

^^^^^Exhibit B

purplecam said:

I LOVE this song. I loved it from the first time I heard it! It was pure FIRE then and it's still pure FIRE today. I'm still pissed that that the song was the smash hit that it deserved to be.

[Edited 6/17/10 13:33pm]

This was sadly the last time I got chills all over my body and almost teared up a little from a Prince song.

I played it 9 times in a row...

Who knew my little appreciation thread had blowuptuation

More Black Sweat love?

PicklesMcMillan said:

crazydoctor said:

There you go.

Reason it wasn't coming up was because you had a link inside the youtube tags, instead of just text.

look at Derwin from The Game lip syncing his heart out

Love this interpertation, I been watching it for over an hour, and of course, the Prince U Tube tapes ah...did I say that outloud!?! ah let me move on...love the scenerio and everbody's part in it so well done, the truth, U Rocked that totally smooth ... that calls for 3 snaps and a twist, my highest rating loved your creativity, I would love to Black Sweat on the BET Tribute...loved ur style

nursev said:

[img:$uid]http://i497.photobucket.com/albums/rr337/val34prince/umm.gif[/img:$uid]

Surprised you got away with posting this. Finally a sista looking sexy in the video. But I don't really like the song. Thought the beat was funky, and trust me some hip hop heads are probably already trying to steal it. I think Prince is maturing in his old age. Riskay for a Jehovah's Witness. I wonder who the sister was in the video who was the DJ.

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sexyfunkystrange said:

Theres nothing innovative or fresh about Black Sweat. Prince is basically doing a version of a Pharrell type song...without undestanding at all what actually makes a good Pharrell song.

[Edited 6/20/10 10:41am]

What makes a good pharell song. I am curious.

High pitch has been out there since p funk so no dr dre ain't the inventor.

some of u need 2 relax music goes in circles like fashion.

Not a masterpiece, but one of his best post-millenium songs.

Depending on the stereo, that high pitch can be unbearable.

I like the barely-there vocal interplay:

"tell 'em whatchu bout to do boy"

"...sexy..."

It's funny and actually approaches sexy, which is something his music hasn't been able to do for a long time.

Even if it is a very reserved sort of sexy:

"I don't wanna take my clothes off but I do, I don't want to turn nobody on, unless it's you"

It doesn't cut it lyrically. The video, in my opinion, is one of the most enjoyable and professional he's ever done.

Stankonia said:

sexyfunkystrange said:

Theres nothing innovative or fresh about Black Sweat. Prince is basically doing a version of a Pharrell type song...without undestanding at all what actually makes a good Pharrell song.

[Edited 6/20/10 10:41am]

What makes a good pharell song. I am curious.

High pitch has been out there since p funk so no dr dre ain't the inventor.

some of u need 2 relax music goes in circles like fashion.

Yeah Pharrell has been checking Prince on his production since he came out (see Grinding "Big Tall Wall" or Im A Slave 4 U & Please Don't Mind "Nasty Girl")...please.

Love the song & it's video.

Semi naughty, in yo face haughty ("You better take your woman & hide. 'Cause I'm about to")

Prince coming at us.

Fake or not...the sweat & heat on & off of Prince's face, the last minutes of this video made

me say "Oh my. Naughty wants out!"

This song would have been a top 10 hit in the 80's. Radio just caters toward the young artist now...If Pharell would have recorded it . It would have been on every radio station...

nursev said:

Who knew my little appreciation thread had blowuptuation

More Black Sweat love?

Blacksweat ! I'm going to give it a spin later in honor of your thread!

TwinFlame said:

I was just looking for my 3121 Cd today, and couldn't find it, I love this song,

I can't find my copy either I luv the sexy groove

Boriqua1130 said:

Love the song & it's video.

Semi naughty, in yo face haughty ("You better take your woman & hide. 'Cause I'm about to")

Prince coming at us.

Fake or not...the sweat & heat on & off of Prince's face, the last minutes of this video made

me say "Oh my. Naughty wants out!"

Now that was funny as hayel especially with that lickey face. LOL.

Reel said:

Boriqua1130 said:

Love the song & it's video.

Semi naughty, in yo face haughty ("You better take your woman & hide. 'Cause I'm about to")

Prince coming at us.

Fake or not...the sweat & heat on & off of Prince's face, the last minutes of this video made

me say "Oh my. Naughty wants out!"

Now that was funny as hayel especially with that lickey face. LOL.

Elle85n09 said:

nursev said:

Who knew my little appreciation thread had blowuptuation

More Black Sweat love?

Blacksweat ! I'm going to give it a spin later in honor of your thread!

How was it?

Boriqua1130 said:

Love the song & it's video.

Semi naughty, in yo face haughty ("You better take your woman & hide. 'Cause I'm about to")

Prince coming at us.

Fake or not...the sweat & heat on & off of Prince's face, the last minutes of this video made

me say "Oh my. Naughty wants out!"

cute

nursev said:

Elle85n09 said:

Blacksweat ! I'm going to give it a spin later in honor of your thread!

How was it?

I play my videos and some of my music after my husband and son go to bed, but I nearly woke them up last night watching the video! Oops Not to mention I had to dance too.

thanks to this thread I just finished watching the video after a while.

and I realised thiS

at 2:27 theres an eye that looks very similar to the 'eye of horus'

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x7fy4_prince-black-sweat_music

[Edited 6/25/10 3:10am]

nursev said:

Boriqua1130 said:

Love the song & it's video.

Semi naughty, in yo face haughty ("You better take your woman & hide. 'Cause I'm about to")

Prince coming at us.

Fake or not...the sweat & heat on & off of Prince's face, the last minutes of this video made

me say "Oh my. Naughty wants out!"

cute

nursev said:

Funky as Hell! "I'm hot and I don't care who knows it" The video had to grow on me with those faces Prince was making but the song has always been "hot fire" Love it

Loved it from the first time I heard it. [img:$uid]http://l.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/emoticons7/113.gif[/img:$uid]

crazydoctor said:

Angelic1302 said:

why doesn't my youtube come up?

someone please fix this for me thanks

[Edited 6/18/10 8:40am]

There you go.

Reason it wasn't coming up was because you had a link inside the youtube tags, instead of just text.

LOOL loove it

Erika2k8 said:

crazydoctor said:

There you go.

Reason it wasn't coming up was because you had a link inside the youtube tags, instead of just text.

LOOL loove it

Ha ha ha ha ha @ that video of those kids. That was funny and subtle as all get out. That link will not last till the end of the day on here, you know the mods will pull it because his music is in it. But the video is cute as all get out. Dude in the center kind of reminds me of RayJay.

The more that I hear this song, the more that I'm actually liking it.