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Printablesro100 said: OnlyNDaUsa said: He did a promo for a radio station when he was there for a concert and he said "this is the Artist on 93.3 " He actually said "the Artist" Boy I would've died to hear that.! Too fucking cool! I've often wondered about concert promos and stuff where they actually say "The Artist" because I'm not aware any exist. There was an interviews dvd available for a while called 'Purple Doves Interviews'. And on various chat shows he was introduced as 'The Artist'. One of the segments, from The Muppet Show or Sesame Street or something, has a puppet ask Prince what his name is, he replies, "I am The Artist Formerly Known As Prince" and kind of rolls his eyes at the camera. | |
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MikeyB71 said: sro100 said: Boy I would've died to hear that.! Too fucking cool! I've often wondered about concert promos and stuff where they actually say "The Artist" because I'm not aware any exist. There was an interviews dvd available for a while called 'Purple Doves Interviews'. And on various chat shows he was introduced as 'The Artist'. One of the segments, from The Muppet Show or Sesame Street or something, has a puppet ask Prince what his name is, he replies, "I am The Artist Formerly Known As Prince" and kind of rolls his eyes at the camera. it was Muppets Tonight. It was funny, the security guard muppet asked him 'name?' and he looks at the camera and says something like "this should be fun" and if i remember correctly he points to his jacket (the one from the 'betcha by golly wow' video) and says this is my name. ' "Keep on shilling for Big Pharm!" |
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OnlyNDaUsa said: MikeyB71 said: There was an interviews dvd available for a while called 'Purple Doves Interviews'. And on various chat shows he was introduced as 'The Artist'. One of the segments, from The Muppet Show or Sesame Street or something, has a puppet ask Prince what his name is, he replies, "I am The Artist Formerly Known As Prince" and kind of rolls his eyes at the camera. it was Muppets Tonight. It was funny, the security guard muppet asked him 'name?' and he looks at the camera and says something like "this should be fun" and if i remember correctly he points to his jacket (the one from the 'betcha by golly wow' video) and says this is my name. ' LOL! I loved his appearance on the Muppets show! I also liked when he changed his name to  , it was a clever and ballsy move that sure got him alot of attention  [Edited 5/28/10 10:30am] "You can be the President, I'd rather be the Pope" | |
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OnlyNDaUsa said: MikeyB71 said: There was an interviews dvd available for a while called 'Purple Doves Interviews'. And on various chat shows he was introduced as 'The Artist'. One of the segments, from The Muppet Show or Sesame Street or something, has a puppet ask Prince what his name is, he replies, "I am The Artist Formerly Known As Prince" and kind of rolls his eyes at the camera. it was Muppets Tonight. It was funny, the security guard muppet asked him 'name?' and he looks at the camera and says something like "this should be fun" and if i remember correctly he points to his jacket (the one from the 'betcha by golly wow' video) and says this is my name. '  Yep, i just checked my dvd, when the security guard asks for his name, Prince says, "this is gonnna be fun.....i'm The Artist Formerly Known As Prince". He is wearing his NPG parka.....  | |
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MikeyB71 said: OnlyNDaUsa said: it was Muppets Tonight. It was funny, the security guard muppet asked him 'name?' and he looks at the camera and says something like "this should be fun" and if i remember correctly he points to his jacket (the one from the 'betcha by golly wow' video) and says this is my name. ' Yep, i just checked my dvd, when the security guard asks for his name, Prince says, "this is gonnna be fun.....i'm The Artist Formerly Known As Prince". He is wearing his NPG parka..... Why/how do i remember that stuff. "Keep on shilling for Big Pharm!" |
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for me, it was a relief, when he was ´Prince´ again. |
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OnlyNDaUsa said: ernestsewell said: Were you disappointed when he used Christopher for "Manic Monday"?
Were you disappointed when he used Asifwekare for "Face Down"? Were you disappointed when he used Joey Coco for "You're My Love? Were you disappointed when he used Alexander Nevermind for "Sugar Walls"? Were you disappointed when he used Paisley Park in the 90's? Were you disappointed when he used Jamie Starr on production notes? Were you disappointed when he used Tora Tora during the mid 90's? I wonder how many people have no idea about "You're My Love" I LOVE that song, and I love El Debarage on the backing vocals. Rogers rerecorded it. I'd love to hear Prince's original arrangement and vocal. I'm surprise that track has never leaked out over the years. | |
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Hell, it didn't matter. I still called him Prince the whole time and so did everyone else I know. He did give me an idea though. I'd like to change my name to....  Andy is a four letter word. | |
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OnlyNDaUsa said: ernestsewell said: Were you disappointed when he used Christopher for "Manic Monday"?
Were you disappointed when he used Asifwekare for "Face Down"? Were you disappointed when he used Joey Coco for "You're My Love? Were you disappointed when he used Alexander Nevermind for "Sugar Walls"? Were you disappointed when he used Paisley Park in the 90's? Were you disappointed when he used Jamie Starr on production notes? Were you disappointed when he used Tora Tora during the mid 90's? I wonder how many people have no idea about "You're My Love" It's not an unforgetable song anyway
Always wondered how Prince's version sounds, it has to be better (hupefully)... A COMPREHENSIVE PRINCE DISCOGRAPHY (work in progress ^^): https://sites.google.com/...scography/ |
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In tha whole Nulle Part Ailleurs show, they talked about him for a long time before he played Endorphinmachine in 1994, and everyone on the set had this little sign with the symbol in their hand and whenever someone had to say his name they would say nothing and just show the sign and resume their sentence A COMPREHENSIVE PRINCE DISCOGRAPHY (work in progress ^^): https://sites.google.com/...scography/ |
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Oh, Ernest, How I Have Missed Your Wit & Wisdom,
ernestsewell said: Were you disappointed when he used Christopher for "Manic Monday"?
Were you disappointed when he used Asifwekare for "Face Down"? Were you disappointed when he used Joey Coco for "You're My Love? Were you disappointed when he used Alexander Nevermind for "Sugar Walls"? Were you disappointed when he used Paisley Park in the 90's? Were you disappointed when he used Jamie Starr on production notes? Were you disappointed when he used Tora Tora during the mid 90's?  Prince's Sarah | |
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databank said: In tha whole Nulle Part Ailleurs show, they talked about him for a long time before he played Endorphinmachine in 1994, and everyone on the set had this little sign with the symbol in their hand and whenever someone had to say his name they would say nothing and just show the sign and resume their sentence
Letterman did that. He had a styrofoam type cut out of the symbol, painted gold. He kept holding it up. One time he held it up and said, "Coming up...." but there was an extra "flourish" on the piece. He reached up, popped off the extra piece, and said, "Sorry about that. Typo." Best moment of the night sans Prince himself. | |
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mzsadii said: Oh, Ernest, How I Have Missed Your Wit & Wisdom,
ernestsewell said: Were you disappointed when he used Christopher for "Manic Monday"?
Were you disappointed when he used Asifwekare for "Face Down"? Were you disappointed when he used Joey Coco for "You're My Love? Were you disappointed when he used Alexander Nevermind for "Sugar Walls"? Were you disappointed when he used Paisley Park in the 90's? Were you disappointed when he used Jamie Starr on production notes? Were you disappointed when he used Tora Tora during the mid 90's? or Gemini, Camille, Somebody... "Keep on shilling for Big Pharm!" |
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ernestsewell said: databank said: In tha whole Nulle Part Ailleurs show, they talked about him for a long time before he played Endorphinmachine in 1994, and everyone on the set had this little sign with the symbol in their hand and whenever someone had to say his name they would say nothing and just show the sign and resume their sentence
Letterman did that. He had a styrofoam type cut out of the symbol, painted gold. He kept holding it up. One time he held it up and said, "Coming up...." but there was an extra "flourish" on the piece. He reached up, popped off the extra piece, and said, "Sorry about that. Typo." Best moment of the night sans Prince himself.was that when he did bit with Paul? "Artist formally known as Prince meet the artist currently known as pinhead" "Keep on shilling for Big Pharm!" |
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I was glad when he changed it back to Prince. The symbol was what really put him on the fast track to Musical Footnoteville.
The symbol lacked the power of his given name. | |
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OnlyNDaUsa said: ernestsewell said: Letterman did that. He had a styrofoam type cut out of the symbol, painted gold. He kept holding it up. One time he held it up and said, "Coming up...." but there was an extra "flourish" on the piece. He reached up, popped off the extra piece, and said, "Sorry about that. Typo." Best moment of the night sans Prince himself.was that when he did bit with Paul? "Artist formally known as Prince meet the artist currently known as pinhead" Yes, it was a quick intro to the show. I never remembered all that he said, but I do remember the first part. | |
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ernestsewell said: OnlyNDaUsa said: was that when he did bit with Paul? "Artist formally known as Prince meet the artist currently known as pinhead" Yes, it was a quick intro to the show. I never remembered all that he said, but I do remember the first part. well it has been how many ever years it has been since I saw it. Was that when he did Dinner with Deloris? "Keep on shilling for Big Pharm!" |
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i was disappointed when he returned to the prince name because all the original prince records are way better than what followed and i wanted him to do an album at least as good as the vault before returning to the prince name | |
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TrevorAyer said: i was disappointed when he returned to the prince name because all the original prince records are way better than what followed and i wanted him to do an album at least as good as the vault before returning to the prince name
The Gold Experience is by "The Artist." You don't think Gold is as good as The Vault? |
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OnlyNDaUsa said: robinhood said: semantics? or do you know what i mean? I know. Changing your name can not get you out of a contract. He was still the same person. Not to mention he never changed his name in the first place. If changing your name could get you out of a contract then people would do it all the time. the name we are given at birth was given without our consent. most contracts are with a birth certificate, not a person. People use Common Law to be free of "undesirable relationships" - especially corporate bonds and profit-related agreements. In my understanding, "Prince" was free of his "undesirable relationship" with Warner when he used the symbol, meaning he could record and release under the symbol, because warner did not have a contract with the symbol. Therefore "he" - prince the PERSON (not the name) did indeed "get out of his contract" - even though the contract still existed - but no longer applied to him as a PERSON. your name is not who you are - its a bunch of letters on a birth certificate. this too shall pass | |
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OnlyNDaUsa said: ernestsewell said: Yes, it was a quick intro to the show. I never remembered all that he said, but I do remember the first part. well it has been how many ever years it has been since I saw it. Was that when he did Dinner with Deloris? Nope. That was "Dolphin". "Dinner with Delores" was him at the piano, and he said "Free TLC" at the end and ran off. | |
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sro100 said: For me, going by a symbol was probably the coolest, most DEFIANT thing Prince did. He basically purposely, sabotaged his own career.
It was like the inside of cool. A man so hip he need not even a name. Now, we alll know his name was never LEGALLY changed, but it was his "name." I guess it was inevitable that he go back to "Prince." But it seemed for a time, he just didn't care, at all, about fitting in to society's standards. Then he became a bit more conventional in many ways. ??? Yeah, I was kinda upset when he changed it back. When he made the initial announcement about the change to
I was feelin' him/it. Nice try to get out of your CONtract though, P ... LoL Peace ... & Stay Funky ...
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ernestsewell said: databank said: In tha whole Nulle Part Ailleurs show, they talked about him for a long time before he played Endorphinmachine in 1994, and everyone on the set had this little sign with the symbol in their hand and whenever someone had to say his name they would say nothing and just show the sign and resume their sentence
Letterman did that. He had a styrofoam type cut out of the symbol, painted gold. He kept holding it up. One time he held it up and said, "Coming up...." but there was an extra "flourish" on the piece. He reached up, popped off the extra piece, and said, "Sorry about that. Typo." Best moment of the night sans Prince himself. Thanks 4 sharing this  A COMPREHENSIVE PRINCE DISCOGRAPHY (work in progress ^^): https://sites.google.com/...scography/ |
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robinhood said: OnlyNDaUsa said: I know. Changing your name can not get you out of a contract. He was still the same person. Not to mention he never changed his name in the first place. If changing your name could get you out of a contract then people would do it all the time. the name we are given at birth was given without our consent. most contracts are with a birth certificate, not a person. People use Common Law to be free of "undesirable relationships" - especially corporate bonds and profit-related agreements. In my understanding, "Prince" was free of his "undesirable relationship" with Warner when he used the symbol, meaning he could record and release under the symbol, because warner did not have a contract with the symbol. Therefore "he" - prince the PERSON (not the name) did indeed "get out of his contract" - even though the contract still existed - but no longer applied to him as a PERSON. your name is not who you are - its a bunch of letters on a birth certificate. Not true. Most people seem to think that the name change was some clever way of getting out of his WB contract, but this wasn't the case. Prince could've changed his name to Doris if he wanted, but it wouldn't have made a scrap of difference to him still being under contract with WB. | |
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BorisFishpaw said: robinhood said: the name we are given at birth was given without our consent. most contracts are with a birth certificate, not a person. People use Common Law to be free of "undesirable relationships" - especially corporate bonds and profit-related agreements. In my understanding, "Prince" was free of his "undesirable relationship" with Warner when he used the symbol, meaning he could record and release under the symbol, because warner did not have a contract with the symbol. Therefore "he" - prince the PERSON (not the name) did indeed "get out of his contract" - even though the contract still existed - but no longer applied to him as a PERSON. your name is not who you are - its a bunch of letters on a birth certificate. Not true. Most people seem to think that the name change was some clever way of getting out of his WB contract, but this wasn't the case. Prince could've changed his name to Doris if he wanted, but it wouldn't have made a scrap of difference to him still being under contract with WB. yes i understand the semantics - by 'get out of his contract' i meant 'able to do what he likes' - i mean really its kind of the same thing minus the details Common Law. this too shall pass | |
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sro100 said: TrevorAyer said: i was disappointed when he returned to the prince name because all the original prince records are way better than what followed and i wanted him to do an album at least as good as the vault before returning to the prince name
The Gold Experience is by "The Artist." You don't think Gold is as good as The Vault? hi thanks for asking ... yes u are right i am not a fan of the gold experience ... production wise it marks a very flat period in his life ... dnp symbol vault and come all sound way better in my opinion, than gold ... there is a lot of cookie cutter sounds on that record and as much as i love the most beautiful girl in the world i think the band performance kinda ruins the song ... i like the mustang mix better ... but even so from his name change forward it was like he was trying to make records a 13 year old would find cool but not an adult ... just a lot of lame lyrics and conceptual ideas that dont really sound like a step forward to me the vault on the other hand has quite a few tracks that i really love thru and thru ... when the lights go down 5 women spoke to me sarah ... come was kind of dark in places but songs like dark papa let it go still have what makes me like prince ... i dig billy jack somewhat but again the vibe of the whole record style is very annoying to me .. in many ways id rather not have heard what came after the name change ... i could still proudly say prince is fucking awesome even with tony m around there was so much great music coming out ... now i feel a bit embarrassed that if someone listens to a record on my suggestion they wont find enough on the record to recognize prince as the genius he is capable of being ... as much as a lot of the post revolution work annoys me it still has that spark that gets me ... post prince name something about it is really missing and has not quite returned yet but he is getting there .. i think maybe 2 more records and we will get the master piece we have been waiting for ... or maybe with the scrapped recent record it will be the next one if we are lucky. as for his name change ... robinhood is right in that we are brainwashed to accept certain language, laws to be binding that simply are not when we unravel ourselves to the point of our supposed constitutional freedom ... sort of like the census/slave count that is going to bind all participants to pay back the debt accumulated by the war machine which is of course created and controlled by those who are enslaving us for the purpose of creating debt http://www.abovetopsecret...573484/pg1 if the united states is a coorporation then we are owned by someone and liable to the corporate contract/cencus to pay back the united states tm debt ... which is fuckin huge ... by considering himself a person and not a name prince is free ... by considering himself a name/number prince is a name under contract but that concept is contrary to our constitution freedoms and our human rights as people and as children of god if u swing that way ... i agree with prince CONtracts are a CON and much of language is a SPELL u stand under a spelling of words... under stand that words are spelling you ... to believe you are not free and to accept willfully the words before you that bind you to slavery to another entity ... the united states is not a coorporation and does not own its people .. the united states is a country with free people in it as long as the people oppose actions designed to subvert our true freedom ... terrorism is a good way to make the populus fear their own freedom and willingly give up their rights ... thats why we are constantly terrorized by the media and our own government who has indeed turned on us ... of course u dont notice cuz there is a jesse james interview on tv instead ... duh | |
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robinhood said: BorisFishpaw said: Not true. Most people seem to think that the name change was some clever way of getting out of his WB contract, but this wasn't the case. Prince could've changed his name to Doris if he wanted, but it wouldn't have made a scrap of difference to him still being under contract with WB. yes i understand the semantics - by 'get out of his contract' i meant 'able to do what he likes' - i mean really its kind of the same thing minus the details Common Law. No, he wasn't able to 'do what he liked' either. He was still subject to exactly the same terms and restictions that 'Prince' was. The name change was merely a mental thing, a way of distancing himself from his past and starting again. It didn't make any legal or business difference. | |
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TrevorAyer said: as for his name change ... robinhood is right in that we are brainwashed to accept certain language, laws to be binding that simply are not when we unravel ourselves to the point of our supposed constitutional freedom ... sort of like the census/slave count that is going to bind all participants to pay back the debt accumulated by the war machine which is of course created and controlled by those who are enslaving us for the purpose of creating debt
http://www.abovetopsecret...573484/pg1 if the united states is a coorporation then we are owned by someone and liable to the corporate contract/cencus to pay back the united states tm debt ... which is fuckin huge ... by considering himself a person and not a name prince is free ... by considering himself a name/number prince is a name under contract but that concept is contrary to our constitution freedoms and our human rights as people and as children of god if u swing that way ... cheers. and doesnt it mammothly suck how so many people all over the world thought prince was crazy for dropping his name, when it was the absolutest smartest move a musician has ever made in regard to the thoroughly bogus notion of a contract. in common law, he would be literally called a Freeman - no longer a slave bound to a contract he 'signed' with his birth certificate. for anyone else interested, do a search on Common Law and Freemen. there's some great videos out there of what happens in a court room when the defendant claims Common Law - suddenly - the Magistrate has no power. this too shall pass | |
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robinhood said: yes i understand the semantics - by 'get out of his contract' i meant 'able to do what he likes' - i mean really its kind of the same thing minus the details
Common Law. The only way he could "get out of his contract" and to do what he really wanted was to just let the contract expire without resigning a new deal. Period. Prince always put out what he wanted. Prince himself said there was never any issue with censorship, etc. It was the timing of releases that bothered him (which he says dates back to 1981 with "Let's Rock"). | |
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